The mining of most of the heavy metals used in ICs is also horrific but I don't see you on a campaign to stop using computers. You seem to only have a stick in your ass about the one technology that can help reduce our dependence on fossil fuels.
Because there’s better ways than electric cars.
I'm ALL ears...
Don’t worry Trey, while your still fapping it out over electric cars, the Chinese will control the fuel cell vehicle market.
Great, I love fuel cells - what we talking about here? Hydrogen? Methanol? Solid oxide? Give me some specs, man.
This isn’t the Scientific American forum, take your smartest guy in the room act down the hall.
If you lack a fundamental understanding of the base technology, then you're going to be immediately out of your depth when it comes to predicting market forces. Fuel cell prototypes for cars are overwhelmingly hydrogen-based. And as of right now, 95% of the world production of hydrogen comes from fossil fuels. So...not as clean as you think. Plus, consumer sentiment for riding around in a land-based version of the Hindenburg is going to be quite the obstacle to mass adoption.
1. I don’t need to get down into the weeds to read about and comprehend market forces
I suppose that a poor comprehension still counts as a comprehension of sorts
2. Never said anything about how clean or not clean FC’s were
Remember when you were railing against electric cars because of how terrible lithium mining is for the environment... and then proceeded to claim that fuel cells were better...
3. If FCV are indeed as dangerous as you claim why are some the biggest liability claim targets on our planet pursuing them? Why in the world are municipalities hauling around people by the bus load in fuel cell vehicles?
Hydrogen has the same stigma as nuclear fission. It doesn't matter if the plant will never melt down, people don't want to live near it, because what if? You're correct that there are fuel cell buses used for public transport in the States, but there's less than 70 in the entire country ( ) People probably aren't even aware that they might be riding in a hydrogen-powered bus and even if they are, they're more willing to take the risk of a 15 minute ride to work as opposed to having a vehicle full of hydrogen sitting in their garage night after night while they sleep
Thanks for that series of straw men Trey, none of which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Unless you're going to try and tell us the manufacturing of batteries doesn't pollute etc. etc.
Here's a little pro-tip friend, a major world wide automobile manufacturer, who, out of all automobile companies that have existed on this planet has probably made the most right calls in their entire existence . . . is going very deep with FUEL CELL Vehicles, in fact, some of their engineers equate electric cars with the steam locomotive, perfect for the short term, but not at all the long play.
Now, you can continue your silly little smartest guy in the room charade and keep harping about all the "bombs" that will be going down the road, but I doubt said huge automobile company is going to spend billions to send people out on the streets in bombs, with said company just crossing their fingers and hoping the dumb ol public, various oversight agencies and all the lawyers out in that public don't figure that out.
Now lets talk about distribution. Pro-Top 2: Very smart massive automobile company is working with commercial truck builders on FC's for commercial trucks. I know you're not the brightest person, but one can only imagine the joy many of the hated by greenies trucking companies would have if they could get long range, powerful, fuel cell vehicles and be able to hit the roads cranking a lot less emissions. Now, if that application comes to pass, the distribution problem will be resolved, almost over night. Thus endeth Pro Tip 2.
Pro Tip 3: The manufacturing process of fuel cells is rapidly evolving to the point that precious metal needs in that process are being eliminated in factors calculated in tens of percentage points at a time. Not to mention engineering evolving to the point that FC's will essentially be mere bolt on's to existing models/chassis and much easier to implement into mass assembly processes and requiring less re-tooling of plants. End of Pro Tip 3.