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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3975 on: February 07, 2019, 08:38:30 PM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3976 on: February 11, 2019, 10:51:07 AM »
For anyone who was curious about the EV vs. FCV debate, a very thorough analysis here:


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3977 on: February 11, 2019, 01:22:13 PM »
The price for hydrogen will come down.   Really hammers home how FCV will do most of the heavy lifting, and as the infrastructure get rolled out to support that, then efficiencies will enter the system.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3978 on: February 11, 2019, 02:17:03 PM »
Sure. All while the state-of-the-art for EVs stands still for the next 20 years.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #3979 on: February 11, 2019, 02:44:24 PM »
Sure. All while the state-of-the-art for EVs stands still for the next 20 years.  :rolleyes:

I didn't say that trey, you really need to get better at this.

The simple facts are, FCV's are much farther along in being able to move and start doing the heavy lifting on the commercial side than EV's.   In fact a real green initiative (not the communist one) should be to supplant all traditional powered commercial over the road/track vehicles with FCV's within a decade.   



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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3980 on: February 11, 2019, 03:42:05 PM »
good video, trey.  thanks for posting.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3981 on: February 11, 2019, 05:31:21 PM »
materials science advances will lead to higher energy density batteries without the use of exotic (and ecologically costly) materials


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3982 on: February 11, 2019, 10:48:58 PM »
Sure. All while the state-of-the-art for EVs stands still for the next 20 years.  :rolleyes:

I didn't say that trey, you really need to get better at this.

The simple facts are, FCV's are much farther along in being able to move and start doing the heavy lifting on the commercial side than EV's.   In fact a real green initiative (not the communist one) should be to supplant all traditional powered commercial over the road/track vehicles with FCV's within a decade.

8 times as expensive and less than half as efficient = poised for a real takeover

is the REAL green initiative the one where we use a bunch of coal and natural gas to get hydrogen?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3983 on: February 11, 2019, 10:55:35 PM »
dax,

what if we could make an electric car battery out of coal? would that be cool?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3984 on: February 12, 2019, 08:37:38 AM »
EV's for the foreseeable future are boutique automobiles. 

FCV's are leaps and bounds ahead of EV's in terms of being able to do the heavy lifting.   In fact, FCV's could replace every over-the-road/rail diesel (or similar) engine in short order if that was desired, with similar capacities, and increasing ranges.   EV's aren't even close to being able to meet  that kind of demand in capability over a broad scale.   The need for precious materials in FCV's is diminishing by factors measured in the ten's of percentage points. 

But  :lol: at your coal comments.



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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3985 on: February 12, 2019, 08:56:08 AM »
materials science advances will lead to higher energy density batteries without the use of exotic (and ecologically costly) materials

Charging technologies are also advancing also. 15 minute for a full charge is close.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3986 on: February 12, 2019, 02:44:52 PM »
what a rough ridin' joke.  lol @ california.


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3987 on: February 12, 2019, 04:36:30 PM »
Kansas should build one from Wichita to Garden City, 'cause it would be easy.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3988 on: February 13, 2019, 04:03:49 AM »
Just another blue state fail.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3989 on: February 13, 2019, 06:44:15 AM »
What if the electric car were made of oil and battery was made from natural gas?

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« Reply #3990 on: February 13, 2019, 08:24:40 AM »
Kansas should build one from Wichita to Garden City, 'cause it would be easy.

They should connect Pittsburg, too.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3991 on: February 13, 2019, 10:35:16 AM »
What if the electric car were made of oil and battery was made from natural gas?

That’s really weak. 

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3992 on: February 22, 2019, 05:27:06 PM »
using little kids as pawns is terrible and also feinstein hilariously rough ridin' owning those little shits for being too young to vote is terrible


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3993 on: February 22, 2019, 05:38:39 PM »
using little kids as pawns is terrible and also feinstein hilariously rough ridin' owning those little shits for being too young to vote is terrible

This smells like a setup to me. Seems deceptively edited. I'd bet the adults were acting out of line, but they made it seem like she was flexing at the children for voicing their concerns. Also, kudos to her for KO'ing that 16-year-old

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3994 on: February 22, 2019, 06:02:38 PM »
agree spracne. also yes, she reck'd that kid.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3995 on: February 22, 2019, 07:44:28 PM »
congratulations to our new UN ambassador


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3996 on: February 22, 2019, 07:51:09 PM »
No open mindedness allowed. 

#settledscience.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3997 on: February 22, 2019, 07:53:02 PM »
also feinstein hilariously rough ridin' owning those little shits for being too young to vote is terrible.

MY senator (the good one).   :love:
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3998 on: February 22, 2019, 10:09:21 PM »
using little kids as pawns is terrible and also feinstein hilariously rough ridin' owning those little shits for being too young to vote is terrible

This smells like a setup to me. Seems deceptively edited. I'd bet the adults were acting out of line, but they made it seem like she was flexing at the children for voicing their concerns. Also, kudos to her for KO'ing that 16-year-old

you so right.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3999 on: February 22, 2019, 10:44:35 PM »
i liked the dunk tape better.
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