Another school shooting

[steve dave]

FSD in full on meltdown mode

[Institutional Control]

I'm confused, was this done in a school.

[star seed 7]

I'm confused, was this done in a school.

does not seem to involve shooting and/or guns either.  very perplexing.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I thought this was the ban it for everyone because one person misuses it thread.

[sys]

anyone who tries to kill themselves by any means other than morphine overdose is insane by definition.

[Paul Moscow]

Glad FSD is finally showing support for low-income, minority women.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Some interesting reactions here

Psychopath kills children in school:  OMG we've got to ban all guns

Psychopath medical professional kills children in abortion clinic: meh, just collateral damage in furtherance of a worthwhile cause

The goE left is really showing its true colors here.  Partisan, despicable, close minded and pathetic. 

[michigancat]

I think we should have background checks for abortion doctors.

[Institutional Control]

Some interesting reactions here

Psychopath kills children in school:  OMG we've got to ban all guns

Psychopath medical professional kills children in abortion clinic: meh, just collateral damage in furtherance of a worthwhile cause

The goE left is really showing its true colors here.  Partisan, despicable, close minded and pathetic.

I'm all for the banning of killing babies.

But I'm a moderate so....

[Institutional Control]

I think we should have background checks for abortion doctors.

What if we made doctors get a license to practice? And then we can take it away from them if they kill babies and crap. Is that too radical?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think we should have background checks for abortion doctors.

What if we made doctors get a license to practice? And then we can take it away from them if they kill babies and crap. Is that too radical?

I think we should take them away for any felony.

[Institutional Control]

I think we should have background checks for abortion doctors.

What if we made doctors get a license to practice? And then we can take it away from them if they kill babies and crap. Is that too radical?

I think we should take them away for any felony.

Hippie.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Yeah, maybe we shouldn't let felons have guns either, retards.

Background checks, like the one this doctor went through with the board of medical examiners to get his license, sure proved failsafe, idiots.

Clearly the only solution is to ban all abortions. Children's lives are at stake.


The apathy and cynism from the goE left is simply appalling.  I'm starting to feel sick to my stomach.  What a disgusting slice of humanity.  I wonder if the mods will slap "baby killing Nazi" under their monikers.

[steve dave]

is it the umbrella thing FSD?

[Institutional Control]

I wonder if the mods will slap "baby killing Nazi" under their monikers.

Son of a.....  Damn you, steve dave. Damn you to hell! 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Yeah, maybe we shouldn't let felons have guns either, retards.

Background checks, like the one this doctor went through with the board of medical examiners to get his license, sure proved failsafe, idiots.

Clearly the only solution is to ban all abortions. Children's lives are at stake.

You know the only problem with your analogy, FSD, is that a ban on abortion actually would save the lives of millions of children. I think that's pretty much indisputable (even though a lesser number of women and children would probably continue to maimed through a proliferation of "back alley" clinics). But with banning all guns, I'm not sure we can say with any certainty whether the number of innocents slaughtered would drop significantly, if at all.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

And by the way, you're wasting your breath trying to convince the libtards to see reason on abortion. It doesn't matter how many Gosnell's you point them to (a new one in Houston comes to light this week), or the fact that those supposedly "safe and legal" clinics referred late term women to Gosnell and looked the other way, or the fact that the state health department and other "watchdog" agencies looked the other way for decades because, you know, you just don't touch abortion, or that there's really no moral difference between arbitrarily killing a viable baby inside of a woman's uterus as opposed to outside of it, or the fact that we've always criminalized murder as a society, or the fact that for many years we've included unborn viable babies as victims of non-abortion-related crimes... The libtards will never take off their blinders. BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M NOT LISTENING!!!

[sys]

you can invert that just as easily.  logically, it makes more sense that gun rights and abortion rights advocates would be the same people.  and that gun control and pro life people would be the same.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

you can invert that just as easily.  logically, it makes more sense that gun rights and abortion rights advocates would be the same people.  and that gun control and pro life people would be the same.

You're smarter than this, sys, you really are. Logically, owning a gun does not mean killing someone. Having an abortion does. And, as I just explained, while banning all abortion would definitely save millions of lives, the number of innocent lives saved by banning all guns is far more uncertain.

This is similar to the logical fallacy of "how can you be pro-life and pro-death penalty"? As if there is no difference between an innocent unborn child and a convicted murderer.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Who is proposing banning all guns, K-S-U-Wildcats!?

[8manpick]

Babies aren't people

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Who is proposing banning all guns, K-S-U-Wildcats!?

Oh, I'm sure plenty of people would like to ban all guns, just like plenty of people would like to ban all abortion. I think reasonable people can meet somewhere in between. I was simply remarking that FSD's analogy is a good one.

Also, you can use Google to answer these sorts of questions: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn=12&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=ScoBuw4mYQ4iK3c3XJDJSw&cp=6&gs_id=m&xhr=t&q=ban+all+guns&es_nrs=true&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=ban+al&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46471029,d.eWU&fp=6522597673a04674&biw=1600&bih=809

[sys]

Logically, owning a gun does not mean killing someone. Having an abortion does. And, as I just explained, while banning all abortion would definitely save millions of lives, the number of innocent lives saved by banning all guns is far more uncertain.

the same principals are at play.  an individual's right to choose their own behavior be it to own a gun or have an abortion performed vs the primacy of human life over the exercise of otherwise legitimate freedoms.

you are right that abortion is different than widespread gun ownership in that it involves not an elevated risk of human death, but the certainty of deaths, and there is certainly nothing inconsistent with opposing both gun restriction and abortion.  as there is nothing inconsistent with supporting both gun restriction and abortion (because a person's thoughts on whether a human fetus is a human modify their thoughts on the importance of its death).

i just point out that the logical affinities of each position are not aligned with how those positions have been shuffled out to our current large political parties.  it's interesting.

[OK_Cat]

i never figured out why anti-welfare people are also anti-abortion.  kind of a conflict of interest.

[puniraptor]

i never figured out why anti-welfare people are also anti-abortion.  kind of a conflict of interest.

not to mention anti-contraception