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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1550 on: February 12, 2013, 12:38:41 PM »
Do you use your license if you hurt someone in a car accident?  Sometimes I guess?   :dunno:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1551 on: February 12, 2013, 01:14:34 PM »
Do you like it when someone asks a question and then answers it themselves? I do.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1552 on: February 12, 2013, 01:40:56 PM »
Do you use your license if you hurt someone in a car accident?  Sometimes I guess?   :dunno:

Sometimes you don't even need to hurt someone, just drive dangerously.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1553 on: February 12, 2013, 02:52:15 PM »
Do you use your license if you hurt someone in a car accident?  Sometimes I guess?   :dunno:

Sometimes you don't even need to hurt someone, just drive dangerously.

Ok carry on then!  :driving:   <---but safely plz!

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1554 on: February 12, 2013, 04:58:17 PM »
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Sometimes those bastards look at your private medical history and take away your damned license even if you are a good driver!


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1557 on: February 13, 2013, 12:43:08 PM »
Don't be a dumbass.  At least don't intentionally be a dumbass.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1559 on: February 13, 2013, 03:14:06 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/13/miami-dad-dies-protecting-daughter-11-during-home-invasion/?test=latestnews

GREAT $5 MILLION DOWN THE TUBES TO PAY FOR ANOTHER GUN HOMICIDE. AS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE MY TAIL FEATHERS ARE ALL RUFFLED UP.

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The societal cost of just one gun homicide averages $5 million, according to the institute. That includes $1.6 million in lost work; $29,000 in medical care; $11,000 on surviving families’ mental-health treatment; $397,000 in criminal-justice, incarceration and police expenses; $9,000 in employer losses; and $3 million in pain, suffering and lost quality of life.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1560 on: February 13, 2013, 03:15:18 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/13/miami-dad-dies-protecting-daughter-11-during-home-invasion/?test=latestnews

GREAT $5 MILLION DOWN THE TUBES TO PAY FOR ANOTHER GUN HOMICIDE. AS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE MY TAIL FEATHERS ARE ALL RUFFLED UP.

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The societal cost of just one gun homicide averages $5 million, according to the institute. That includes $1.6 million in lost work; $29,000 in medical care; $11,000 on surviving families’ mental-health treatment; $397,000 in criminal-justice, incarceration and police expenses; $9,000 in employer losses; and $3 million in pain, suffering and lost quality of life.

are non gun homicides priced differently? like maybe deduct the economic impact of purchasing a gun and a bullet?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1561 on: February 13, 2013, 03:20:33 PM »
I'm not sure how you figure in the cost of the lost work and then also figure in the cost of the additional work for the doctors and psychiatrists.

Also LOL at including $3 million for pain, suffering and lost quality of life.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1562 on: February 13, 2013, 03:23:23 PM »
Seriously guys, $600 per gun?

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Dividing the $174 billion total by the number of guns in the U.S. -- 270 million as reported by the United Nations’ International Small Arms Survey -- the institute calculated the cost to society of each civilian-owned firearm in the U.S. at more than $644.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1563 on: February 13, 2013, 03:26:20 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/13/miami-dad-dies-protecting-daughter-11-during-home-invasion/?test=latestnews

GREAT $5 MILLION DOWN THE TUBES TO PAY FOR ANOTHER GUN HOMICIDE. AS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE MY TAIL FEATHERS ARE ALL RUFFLED UP.

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The societal cost of just one gun homicide averages $5 million, according to the institute. That includes $1.6 million in lost work; $29,000 in medical care; $11,000 on surviving families’ mental-health treatment; $397,000 in criminal-justice, incarceration and police expenses; $9,000 in employer losses; and $3 million in pain, suffering and lost quality of life.

are non gun homicides priced differently? like maybe deduct the economic impact of purchasing a gun and a bullet?

Honestly a conservation minded murderer would always be sure to use a gun (Pittman-Robertson funds). 

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1564 on: February 13, 2013, 03:29:05 PM »
$175 Billion with an "illion" ! for you savages to own guns

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The impact of gun deaths and injuries go well beyond heartbreak to include billions of dollars of losses to the economy. The cost of U.S. gun violence in work lost, medical care, insurance, criminal-justice expenses and pain and suffering amounted to as much as $174 billion in 2010, according to data compiled by the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation in Calverton, Maryland.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1565 on: February 13, 2013, 03:30:02 PM »
I'm not sure how you figure in the cost of the lost work and then also figure in the cost of the additional work for the doctors and psychiatrists.

Also LOL at including $3 million for pain, suffering and lost quality of life.

Are you a research fellow, nutskicked?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1566 on: February 13, 2013, 03:48:50 PM »
What's the incremental cost compared to non-firearm homicides?  That's a perfectly reasonable question.

ETA:  The Harvard study by Kates/Mauser already proved gun control is counter productive.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1567 on: February 13, 2013, 04:11:00 PM »
I'm not sure how you figure in the cost of the lost work and then also figure in the cost of the additional work for the doctors and psychiatrists.

Also LOL at including $3 million for pain, suffering and lost quality of life.

Are you a research fellow, nutskicked?

No, but I used to be a research assistant.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1568 on: February 13, 2013, 04:17:55 PM »
What's the incremental cost compared to non-firearm homicides?  That's a perfectly reasonable question.

ETA:  The Harvard study by Kates/Mauser already proved gun control is counter productive.

Firearms are estimated to be responsible for 70-80% of all homicides. Maybe no one has looked into non-firearm homicide costs because eliminating fists isn't reasonable.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1569 on: February 13, 2013, 04:23:02 PM »
What's the incremental cost compared to non-firearm homicides?  That's a perfectly reasonable question.

ETA:  The Harvard study by Kates/Mauser already proved gun control is counter productive.

Firearms are estimated to be responsible for 70-80% of all homicides. Maybe no one has looked into non-firearm homicide costs because eliminating fists isn't reasonable.

Sounds like a dead end Paul Moscow.  T's & P's.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1570 on: February 13, 2013, 04:33:06 PM »
$3 million for pain and suffering just seems pretty high. I really would like to see how that number was obtained before I even begin to believe it. I mean Paul Moscow didn't even give a link to the study.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1571 on: February 13, 2013, 04:37:38 PM »
$3 million for pain and suffering just seems pretty high. I really would like to see how that number was obtained before I even begin to believe it. I mean Paul Moscow didn't even give a link to the study.

Story: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-21/shootings-costing-u-s-174-billion-show-burden-of-gun-violence.html

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1572 on: February 13, 2013, 04:40:08 PM »
my pain and suffering is rough ridin' expensive as crap. Luckily I have next to none. :cool:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1573 on: February 13, 2013, 04:41:09 PM »
$3 million for pain and suffering just seems pretty high. I really would like to see how that number was obtained before I even begin to believe it. I mean Paul Moscow didn't even give a link to the study.

Cause $2 million per gun homicide is such a bargain?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #1574 on: February 13, 2013, 04:44:52 PM »
$3 million for pain and suffering just seems pretty high. I really would like to see how that number was obtained before I even begin to believe it. I mean Paul Moscow didn't even give a link to the study.

Cause $2 million per gun homicide is such a bargain?

Exactly, why exaggerate the number?