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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6650 on: May 25, 2022, 11:57:51 AM »
Last week, it was ‘we’ll take every action to protect unborn children’

This week, it’s ‘thoughts and prayers, real-life children, better luck next time’

Literally eff all of them.


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Probirth, never pro life

You really cling to this.

Truth hurt?

No, it's just a very weak argument. Underlying its use is this assumption that only the government can provide for kids. I have four school age kids that never worry about being locked down at a school. We don't have to cross our fingers hoping this doesn't happen to our kids.

My kids are also miraculously able to be taken care of without any government assistance. If you want to do something through a UBI, I could get behind that. All of these other programs, no.

I'm also anti-death penalty.

Underlying it’s use is the assumption that people who want abortions lack the means to appropriately support children, dumbass.

I hardly ever use the term “privileged” but my word your take is the poster child for it.

Like I said, I'll get behind a UBI to help provide for all of the people who are unable to care for themselves or their children.
I think we agree on that, but to be clear: almost no one in public service who supports banning abortions also supports UBI or any consistent monetary or healthcare relief for struggling families.

That’s the point of the “pro birth, not pro life” argument.

And no one in public service who would support a UBI is anti-abortion. So what do you do?

Decide which is worse for you. Facts almost always tend to show highest rates of abortions happen in countries that prohibit it, and where care for children is diminished. I'm not ever advocating or can ever promise that number will be 0 under any system, but I'd like to create a system that actually supports kids than make it terrible to have them. If being a parent is so important we must follow through on that.

If you have some sort of UBI, and clauses for it's use in case of health of the mother or rape/incest, I can then support more of a case of it's general banning. I can understand a moral argument against it all, but practically all who want to ban it offer no solutions, and you better have them or else it'll only get worse, not better.

FTR I really don't like abortion, I do not, but I never, ever see true, safe alternates besides it and it gets very old, and then people wonder why crap is so mumped up.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6651 on: May 25, 2022, 11:58:47 AM »
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6653 on: May 25, 2022, 12:06:58 PM »

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6654 on: May 25, 2022, 12:24:28 PM »
Assault weapons are truly not banned, only a capability of assault weapons is banned.   

Assault style weapons, high capacity magazines and loading efficiency accessories need to be banned.    Semi Automatic pistols should require a higher level of Federal licensing and magazine capacity limited.   Weapons above a certain caliber need to be banned, I should not be able to walk into Galyan's and buy a .50 caliber sniper rifle.     But in my one an only visit to the one in OP/Leawood I could have done just that As I mentioned, no one should be able to buy a .350 semi-automatic pistol or similar.     The sale and ownership of military grade weapons needs to be banned outright.     Mandatory minimums need to be standardized across the board and loopholes closed.   Gun crimes prosecuted to the fullest extent. 

All that said, the over focus on guns is a detriment to the focus that needs to put on mental health.   The young man in Texas was in dire need of a mental health intervention.   

As a society we over glorify gun violence, and no, don't give this mocking T&P's bullshit.   We have entire industries that pocket billions propagating gun violence, death and destruction.      For example it's hard for me to take this Keanu Reeves is a great guy spiel seriously when he stars in one of the most gratuitously (gun) violent film series in movie making history.    I don't want to hear about some bullshit psychological study (that was probably proxy financed by the video gaming industry) about how violent video games don't have any impact on kids or mentally unstable adults.    There's no way certain minds can be fed that repeatedly and not be impacted. 

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6655 on: May 25, 2022, 12:30:29 PM »
The only time MAGA's bring up Mental Health is when there's been a tragedy with guns. I still remember my grandma giving me hell, because I went home the day President Bush came to speak at K-State, while I was in college. I was suffering with severe anxiety/depression/body dysmorphia at the time and she pretty much called me weak and embarrassing. Both sides play chess with this crap for their agendas and it makes me sick.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6656 on: May 25, 2022, 12:58:34 PM »
The only time MAGA's bring up Mental Health is when there's been a tragedy with guns. I still remember my grandma giving me hell, because I went home the day President Bush came to speak at K-State, while I was in college. I was suffering with severe anxiety/depression/body dysmorphia at the time and she pretty much called me weak and embarrassing. Both sides play chess with this crap for their agendas and it makes me sick.

surely she attended the speech.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6657 on: May 25, 2022, 01:00:24 PM »
The only time MAGA's bring up Mental Health is when there's been a tragedy with guns. I still remember my grandma giving me hell, because I went home the day President Bush came to speak at K-State, while I was in college. I was suffering with severe anxiety/depression/body dysmorphia at the time and she pretty much called me weak and embarrassing. Both sides play chess with this crap for their agendas and it makes me sick.

Sounds like your grandma is a real piece of work.   What grandmother says this to their grandchild?   Politics has nothing to do with this.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6658 on: May 25, 2022, 01:03:49 PM »
Question for a lot of the libs on here that bitch about the US non stop (Obviously this is a huge one, that I definitely back that needs changes immediately). Is there anything you like about living here? You have a laundry list of crap you guys bitch about every day.

Bitching about our government is a civic duty considered so important that they actually enshrined it first in the Bill of Rights.

And yet it's the Bill of Rights that is being complained about.
It’s not.

I’m personally with Berger on this one that the Second Amendment seems pretty clearly intended to protect the right to maintain armed state and local militias. Why the “shall not be infringed” crowd thinks you can completely ignore like 30% of the words in that language makes no sense to me.

But more relevantly, we already banned assault weapons. There isn’t a good second amendment argument against the ability of government to do so. The lack of any action on gun policy is 100% due to special interest groups and morally bankrupt politicians.

Here, here. I took a Con law class entitled "The First and Second Amendment." We spent the entire semester discussing the First Amendment, and then like a day and a half discussing the Second. There is a dearth of caselaw on the Second Amendment. Heller is the only major SCOTUS case, and even there, the Court (via Scalia) only held that a person can have a handgun in their home for personal defense.

I was going to say hey wait what about Katko v Briney but i guess that only made it to the Iowa SC.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6660 on: May 25, 2022, 01:09:53 PM »
The only time MAGA's bring up Mental Health is when there's been a tragedy with guns. I still remember my grandma giving me hell, because I went home the day President Bush came to speak at K-State, while I was in college. I was suffering with severe anxiety/depression/body dysmorphia at the time and she pretty much called me weak and embarrassing. Both sides play chess with this crap for their agendas and it makes me sick.

Yeah, when they aren't talking about gun control, they are trying to get rid of school counselors.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6661 on: May 25, 2022, 01:11:59 PM »
On the flip side we have an administration that's more than happy to send billions off to rough ridin' Ukraine (along with their willing accomplices Mitch McConnell and company) so Joe Biden and friends can get their rocks off trying to win a war against Russia via proxy.   

Meanwhile, our nations problems pile up like cord wood. 

So it's hilarious and sad to me to watch #blueanon lose their crap about a single tweet from a political commentary group that don't like, while they wave the Ukrainian flag and cheer for more war overseas.






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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6662 on: May 25, 2022, 01:21:25 PM »
Yeah, if we would just let Putin conquer Ukraine, someone would actually do something to prevent these shootings.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6663 on: May 25, 2022, 01:26:52 PM »
Ghouls:

https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/1529459086152110082?s=20&t=AIdqzEmL9DiuWdGuxn3R3g

Wonder how they feel about WFH in general, I thought it was all so much merde
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1529523582145122305?s=20&t=AIdqzEmL9DiuWdGuxn3R3g

So they were against closing schools during covid to in favor of closing schools to prevent your kid from being butchered.

What a bunch of absolute piles of crap

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6664 on: May 25, 2022, 01:33:16 PM »
Yeah, if we would just let Putin conquer Ukraine, someone would actually do something to prevent these shootings.

The sad irony is watching #blueanon rightfully be outraged about mass shootings in the United States, while at the same time openly calling for more weapons of war to be sent to Ukraine with virtually no calls for peace talks/negotiations.    Even worse, knowing that #blueanon welcomes the blank check of billions for Ukraine for more killing. 








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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6665 on: May 25, 2022, 01:40:30 PM »
Yeah, if we would just let Putin conquer Ukraine, someone would actually do something to prevent these shootings.

The sad irony is watching #blueanon rightfully be outraged about mass shootings in the United States, while at the same time openly calling for more weapons of war to be sent to Ukraine with virtually no calls for peace talks/negotiations.    Even worse, knowing that #blueanon welcomes the blank check of billions for Ukraine for more killing.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6666 on: May 25, 2022, 01:52:43 PM »
Yeah, if we would just let Putin conquer Ukraine, someone would actually do something to prevent these shootings.

The sad irony is watching #blueanon rightfully be outraged about mass shootings in the United States, while at the same time openly calling for more weapons of war to be sent to Ukraine with virtually no calls for peace talks/negotiations.    Even worse, knowing that #blueanon welcomes the blank check of billions for Ukraine for more killing.

That's only sad for morons with man boobs.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6667 on: May 25, 2022, 02:07:58 PM »
That’s fine. Please adjust where it needs to be. I talk to International docs trying to get employment here daily, that are jealous AF you us. Mods, please put wherever this should go.

There definitely is no better place on earth to be a financially focused doctor.  That much the entire world agrees on.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6668 on: May 25, 2022, 02:08:38 PM »
Last week, it was ‘we’ll take every action to protect unborn children’

This week, it’s ‘thoughts and prayers, real-life children, better luck next time’

Literally eff all of them.


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Probirth, never pro life

You really cling to this.

Truth hurt?

No, it's just a very weak argument. Underlying its use is this assumption that only the government can provide for kids. I have four school age kids that never worry about being locked down at a school. We don't have to cross our fingers hoping this doesn't happen to our kids.

My kids are also miraculously able to be taken care of without any government assistance. If you want to do something through a UBI, I could get behind that. All of these other programs, no.

I'm also anti-death penalty.

Are you saying your kids school will never be involved in a shooting or that your kids don't go to school?

My kids will never be victims in a school shooting because they don't go to school.

they ever go to a grocery store?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6670 on: May 25, 2022, 02:14:50 PM »
Last week, it was ‘we’ll take every action to protect unborn children’

This week, it’s ‘thoughts and prayers, real-life children, better luck next time’

Literally eff all of them.


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Probirth, never pro life

You really cling to this.

Truth hurt?

No, it's just a very weak argument. Underlying its use is this assumption that only the government can provide for kids. I have four school age kids that never worry about being locked down at a school. We don't have to cross our fingers hoping this doesn't happen to our kids.

My kids are also miraculously able to be taken care of without any government assistance. If you want to do something through a UBI, I could get behind that. All of these other programs, no.

I'm also anti-death penalty.

Are you saying your kids school will never be involved in a shooting or that your kids don't go to school?

My kids will never be victims in a school shooting because they don't go to school.

they ever go to a grocery store?

Yes, they very rarely go to a grocery store. They also venture outside sometimes during a thunderstorm.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6671 on: May 25, 2022, 02:16:05 PM »

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6672 on: May 25, 2022, 02:22:06 PM »
Last week, it was ‘we’ll take every action to protect unborn children’

This week, it’s ‘thoughts and prayers, real-life children, better luck next time’

Literally eff all of them.


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Probirth, never pro life

You really cling to this.

Truth hurt?

No, it's just a very weak argument. Underlying its use is this assumption that only the government can provide for kids. I have four school age kids that never worry about being locked down at a school. We don't have to cross our fingers hoping this doesn't happen to our kids.

My kids are also miraculously able to be taken care of without any government assistance. If you want to do something through a UBI, I could get behind that. All of these other programs, no.

I'm also anti-death penalty.

Are you saying your kids school will never be involved in a shooting or that your kids don't go to school?

My kids will never be victims in a school shooting because they don't go to school.

they ever go to a grocery store?

Yes, they very rarely go to a grocery store. They also venture outside sometimes during a thunderstorm.

Living life scared it sounds like.  Do they mask?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6673 on: May 25, 2022, 02:27:15 PM »
All kinds of reports of do nothings getting ample warning about this pending potential event and doing nothing.   The blood is on their hands as well.    Text messages, pictures, nobody did a damn thing.




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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #6674 on: May 25, 2022, 02:34:18 PM »
Last week, it was ‘we’ll take every action to protect unborn children’

This week, it’s ‘thoughts and prayers, real-life children, better luck next time’

Literally eff all of them.


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Probirth, never pro life

You really cling to this.

Truth hurt?

No, it's just a very weak argument. Underlying its use is this assumption that only the government can provide for kids. I have four school age kids that never worry about being locked down at a school. We don't have to cross our fingers hoping this doesn't happen to our kids.

My kids are also miraculously able to be taken care of without any government assistance. If you want to do something through a UBI, I could get behind that. All of these other programs, no.

I'm also anti-death penalty.

Are you saying your kids school will never be involved in a shooting or that your kids don't go to school?

My kids will never be victims in a school shooting because they don't go to school.

they ever go to a grocery store?

Yes, they very rarely go to a grocery store. They also venture outside sometimes during a thunderstorm.

Living life scared it sounds like.  Do they mask?

No masks. Why in the world would kids be going to the grocery store?
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