Another school shooting

[Dugout DickStone]

No masks. Why in the world would kids be going to the grocery store?

To go shopping with their parents and not live scared?

My kids don't live scared, but do not consider going to the grocery store to be an enjoyable experience.

Movie theatres?

[dal9]

All kinds of reports of do nothings getting ample warning about this pending potential event and doing nothing.   The blood is on their hands as well.    Text messages, pictures, nobody did a damn thing.

I've seen that he gave 30 minutes notice, you see something different?

He was posting pics of his rifles starting almost a month ago on social media.   He was tagging people and then messaging them asking them if they saw the pics.   Four days ago he sent texts to a friend showing his rifles and all of his loaded clips of ammo.    Most, if not all of these people knew he was a person who was angry, who had mental problems, some of the same people getting messages and seeing his gun pics were the same people who took video of him in a fight with his mom when she tried to or she successfully kicked him out of the house.    Allegedly one of the people who got pics of his guns, and backpack full of loaded clips four days ago asked him why had all of that stuff, and he told them not to worry about it.

What action are you looking for from all of this?

i mean in a normal state you'd hope they would investigate the dude and red flag him...in rural texas, nothing would happen

[Justwin]

No masks. Why in the world would kids be going to the grocery store?

To go shopping with their parents and not live scared?

My kids don't live scared, but do not consider going to the grocery store to be an enjoyable experience.

Movie theatres?

We do not go to movie theatres. We do go to the public library.

[420seriouscat69]

Pretty sure some of the Virginia Tech kids got shot on campus, at the their library. They going to college?

[catastrophe]

All kinds of reports of do nothings getting ample warning about this pending potential event and doing nothing.   The blood is on their hands as well.    Text messages, pictures, nobody did a damn thing.

I've seen that he gave 30 minutes notice, you see something different?

He was posting pics of his rifles starting almost a month ago on social media.   He was tagging people and then messaging them asking them if they saw the pics.   Four days ago he sent texts to a friend showing his rifles and all of his loaded clips of ammo.    Most, if not all of these people knew he was a person who was angry, who had mental problems, some of the same people getting messages and seeing his gun pics were the same people who took video of him in a fight with his mom when she tried to or she successfully kicked him out of the house.    Allegedly one of the people who got pics of his guns, and backpack full of loaded clips four days ago asked him why had all of that stuff, and he told them not to worry about it.

Well, none of that is illegal, and doing something about it before he started killing people would be illegal.

This is exactly what I was getting at. Hard to blame someone for not “doing something” earlier when our lawmakers have gone out if their way to make sure every step in that process was legal.

[Justwin]

Pretty sure some of the Virginia Tech kids got shot on campus, at the their library. They going to college?

Is this directed at me? I never said anything about my kids not doing anything where something could happen. The reasons my kids do not go to school are not primarily because of school shootings. However, the fact that they don't go to school means they are not at risk of being victims in a school shooting.

[sonofdaxjones]

All kinds of reports of do nothings getting ample warning about this pending potential event and doing nothing.   The blood is on their hands as well.    Text messages, pictures, nobody did a damn thing.

I've seen that he gave 30 minutes notice, you see something different?

He was posting pics of his rifles starting almost a month ago on social media.   He was tagging people and then messaging them asking them if they saw the pics.   Four days ago he sent texts to a friend showing his rifles and all of his loaded clips of ammo.    Most, if not all of these people knew he was a person who was angry, who had mental problems, some of the same people getting messages and seeing his gun pics were the same people who took video of him in a fight with his mom when she tried to or she successfully kicked him out of the house.    Allegedly one of the people who got pics of his guns, and backpack full of loaded clips four days ago asked him why had all of that stuff, and he told them not to worry about it.

Well, none of that is illegal, and doing something about it before he started killing people would be illegal.

In some states there are emergency protection orders and in some states there are specific emergency gun violence protection orders.   

Texas is soft in those areas, but that changes nothing relative to making law enforcement aware. 

[steve dave]

I’m going to start reporting the rednecks in western KS I grew up with every time they post a pic of how horny they are for their new firearm…which is constantly

[Dugout DickStone]

No masks. Why in the world would kids be going to the grocery store?

To go shopping with their parents and not live scared?

My kids don't live scared, but do not consider going to the grocery store to be an enjoyable experience.

Movie theatres?

We do not go to movie theatres. We do go to the public library.

You're ch9ildren have never been to a movie theatre?   

[Justwin]

No masks. Why in the world would kids be going to the grocery store?

To go shopping with their parents and not live scared?

My kids don't live scared, but do not consider going to the grocery store to be an enjoyable experience.

Movie theatres?

We do not go to movie theatres. We do go to the public library.

You're ch9ildren have never been to a movie theatre?   

My older two kids have been once for a friend's birthday. My younger two never have been.

[dal9]

All kinds of reports of do nothings getting ample warning about this pending potential event and doing nothing.   The blood is on their hands as well.    Text messages, pictures, nobody did a damn thing.

I've seen that he gave 30 minutes notice, you see something different?

He was posting pics of his rifles starting almost a month ago on social media.   He was tagging people and then messaging them asking them if they saw the pics.   Four days ago he sent texts to a friend showing his rifles and all of his loaded clips of ammo.    Most, if not all of these people knew he was a person who was angry, who had mental problems, some of the same people getting messages and seeing his gun pics were the same people who took video of him in a fight with his mom when she tried to or she successfully kicked him out of the house.    Allegedly one of the people who got pics of his guns, and backpack full of loaded clips four days ago asked him why had all of that stuff, and he told them not to worry about it.

Well, none of that is illegal, and doing something about it before he started killing people would be illegal.

In some states there are emergency protection orders and in some states there are specific emergency gun violence protection orders.   

Texas is soft in those areas, but that changes nothing relative to making law enforcement aware.

wonder why Texas is soft in those areas.  It couldn't be the gun nuts could it?

And it kind of does change something relative to making law enforcement aware, because nothing happens to the guy and now you've got a heavily armed psycho mad at u if he finds out u put the call in

[Dugout DickStone]

I’m going to start reporting the rednecks in western KS I grew up with every time they post a pic of how horny they are for their new firearm…which is constantly

You will lose your job unless your job allows you to basically do nothing except report bozos all frothed over a new six-shooter

[star seed 7]

That made me think of when KS governor candidate Kris kobach drove around lenexa in a jeep with like a 50 cal machine gun mounted to the roll bars. I wonder if anyone reported him to the authorities?

[Dugout DickStone]

That made me think of when KS governor candidate Kris kobach drove around lenexa in a jeep with like a 50 cal machine gun mounted to the roll bars. I wonder if anyone reported him to the authorities?

I did but it was for being a complete bitch.

[sonofdaxjones]

All kinds of reports of do nothings getting ample warning about this pending potential event and doing nothing.   The blood is on their hands as well.    Text messages, pictures, nobody did a damn thing.

I've seen that he gave 30 minutes notice, you see something different?

He was posting pics of his rifles starting almost a month ago on social media.   He was tagging people and then messaging them asking them if they saw the pics.   Four days ago he sent texts to a friend showing his rifles and all of his loaded clips of ammo.    Most, if not all of these people knew he was a person who was angry, who had mental problems, some of the same people getting messages and seeing his gun pics were the same people who took video of him in a fight with his mom when she tried to or she successfully kicked him out of the house.    Allegedly one of the people who got pics of his guns, and backpack full of loaded clips four days ago asked him why had all of that stuff, and he told them not to worry about it.

Well, none of that is illegal, and doing something about it before he started killing people would be illegal.

In some states there are emergency protection orders and in some states there are specific emergency gun violence protection orders.   

Texas is soft in those areas, but that changes nothing relative to making law enforcement aware.

wonder why Texas is soft in those areas.  It couldn't be the gun nuts could it?

And it kind of does change something relative to making law enforcement aware, because nothing happens to the guy and now you've got a heavily armed psycho mad at u if he finds out u put the call in

I don't know what third world country you live in but in first world Alabama there's anonymous tips lines.

I don't recall saying I support gun nuts.

I know #blueanon/#blueanonGe while almost always siding with The Man these days when there's political opportunity.  But, on occasion will clutch the pearls and get light headed over the thought of reporting a known mentally unstable person who is amassing weapons to the police.   But for smart and right thinkers, it's the thing to do.

I know SteveDave likes to bring up that third world hellhole known as Meade, KS often, but his examples are very poor, as always.

[steve dave]

I’m going to start reporting the rednecks in western KS I grew up with every time they post a pic of how horny they are for their new firearm…which is constantly

You will lose your job unless your job allows you to basically do nothing except report bozos all frothed over a new six-shooter

First up for his no knock warrant!

[sonofdaxjones]

Let us know when he's got backpacks full of loaded ammo clips and you ask him what he's going to do with all that, and he tells you "not to worry" Steve and you have videos of that person fighting his mom and telling people he's very angry all the time.

That said, he shouldn't be allowed to have that AR.

[Spracne]

Did I hear properly that this mongo had a vest for armor plates but didn't actually have any armor plates in them? @pissclams get this man a load out.

[Dugout DickStone]

I’m going to start reporting the rednecks in western KS I grew up with every time they post a pic of how horny they are for their new firearm…which is constantly

You will lose your job unless your job allows you to basically do nothing except report bozos all frothed over a new six-shooter

First up for his no knock warrant!

that is ominous

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1529529909571461121

[Dugout DickStone]

a good guy with a gun?!

[Spracne]

https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1529529909571461121

This is why we need to train and equip teachers (and maybe some students?) with more guns.

[sonofdaxjones]

Too many political points on the pond out there to be asking why an armed school resource officer didn't do their job (edit) . . . . again.

[Rage Against the McKee]

https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1529529909571461121

This is why we need to train and equip teachers (and maybe some students?) with more guns.

Yeah, those elementary school kids would have stopped that gunman right in his tracks.

[ChiComCat]

I don't know what third world country you live in but in first world Alabama there's anonymous tips lines.

I don't recall saying I support gun nuts.

I know #blueanon/#blueanonGe while almost always siding with The Man these days when there's political opportunity.  But, on occasion will clutch the pearls and get light headed over the thought of reporting a known mentally unstable person who is amassing weapons to the police.   But for smart and right thinkers, it's the thing to do.

I know SteveDave likes to bring up that third world hellhole known as Meade, KS often, but his examples are very poor, as always.

The NRA, and by extension a majority of the GOP, has largely opposed any Red Flag laws that accomplish anything.  They want about 10 steps to be followed in order to confiscate guns, which would take an exceedingly long time and almost certainly wouldn't have been able to get guns out of this kid's hands in the course of the 4 days between purchase and massacre.  Additionally, Oklahoma has passed an anti-red flag law.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/24/texas-gun-laws-uvalde-mass-shootings/

When a then-17-year-old student killed 10 people and injured 13 more in an art classroom in Santa Fe, near Houston, in 2018, Abbott called on state lawmakers to consider a “red flag” law that would allow state courts to take firearms away from a person who presents a danger to themselves or others.

A few months later, he backed away from the idea after Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and gun rights activists drew a hard line against it. The state ended up passing laws more focused on boosting mental health resources and giving teachers more access to guns on public school campuses.

Some states have them, mostly more liberal states but the occasional moderate/conservative state.  Every red flag that has been passed to date has been attacked by the NRA as being too strict.

Too many political points on the pond out there to be asking why an armed school resource officer didn't do their job (edit) . . . . again.

It's almost like armed school resource officers aren't an effective solution.  My estimation is that most local PDs put their dumbest employee there as they think it'll never matter.