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just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.
Quote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.Agreed.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2018, 02:29:58 PM5. "What if a teacher shoots at a shooter and misses and hits somebody else instead?" Seriously, I've heard this one. And seriously, are you effing kidding me?Highly trained police officers kill people who are unarmed and/or not posing an immediate threat already. Are the teachers going to be more trained than police officers?9. What happens when the police show up and there are a bunch of people aiming their guns?
5. "What if a teacher shoots at a shooter and misses and hits somebody else instead?" Seriously, I've heard this one. And seriously, are you effing kidding me?
Quote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.The odds of either you or your kids being on campus during a school shooting are slightly higher than zero, though. There are currently more than 150,000 people who were students during a school shooting since Columbine. That makes close to 300,000 parents and some tens of thousands of teachers and faculty. That makes the odds somewhere around 1 in 1000 if you divide these people by the US population.
Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.
The odds of either you or your kids being on campus during a school shooting are slightly higher than zero, though. There are currently more than 150,000 people who were students during a school shooting since Columbine. That makes close to 300,000 parents and some tens of thousands of teachers and faculty. That makes the odds somewhere around 1 in 1000 if you divide these people by the US population.
Quote from: Dlew12 on February 27, 2018, 02:51:12 PMQuote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.Agreed.Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2018, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: Dlew12 on February 27, 2018, 02:51:12 PMQuote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.Agreed.Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.Define "sweeping gun restrictions"
Quote from: Phil Titola on February 27, 2018, 03:13:55 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2018, 02:57:29 PMQuote from: Dlew12 on February 27, 2018, 02:51:12 PMQuote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.Agreed.Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.Define "sweeping gun restrictions"I don’t know. Define the “common sense gun control” liberals are clamoring for. One idea that seems to have broad Democrat appeal is banning “assault weapons” and/or just specifically banning the AR-15, which are both pretty absurd and useless ideas. Oh, and let’s not forgot the divest and sanction movement against the NRA.
Quote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.it would be kind of refreshing for a politician to say this out loud
What is divest and sanction?
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2018, 06:20:30 PMWhat is divest and sanction?That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2018, 07:02:35 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2018, 06:20:30 PMWhat is divest and sanction?That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?
Quote from: michigancat on February 27, 2018, 03:10:20 PMQuote from: sys on February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PMjust a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero. ok, back to your extremely important debate.it would be kind of refreshing for a politician to say this out loud Yes, everyone would find it refreshing if trump said that.
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2018, 07:10:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2018, 07:02:35 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2018, 06:20:30 PMWhat is divest and sanction?That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?Not giving nra members special discounts
Quote from: mocat on February 27, 2018, 07:12:12 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2018, 07:10:42 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 27, 2018, 07:02:35 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on February 27, 2018, 06:20:30 PMWhat is divest and sanction?That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?Not giving nra members special discountsThat’s not a sanction that’s the free market
Arming 20% of teachers like trump suggests is so incredibly stupid I can't believe you guys are spending time debating it. Why not debate building invisible force fields that each student puts over their body when they enter into school and then take off when they go home each night?