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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4925 on: February 27, 2018, 02:48:49 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4926 on: February 27, 2018, 02:51:12 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.
Agreed.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4927 on: February 27, 2018, 02:57:29 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.
Agreed.

Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4928 on: February 27, 2018, 02:58:27 PM »
5. "What if a teacher shoots at a shooter and misses and hits somebody else instead?" Seriously, I've heard this one. And seriously, are you effing kidding me?

Highly trained police officers kill people who are unarmed and/or not posing an immediate threat already. Are the teachers going to be more trained than police officers?

9. What happens when the police show up and there are a bunch of people aiming their guns?

I'll add both of these to the list of dubious arguments, thanks, but let me wait a bit to see if any others filter in. Can't be updating this thing 5x a day.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4929 on: February 27, 2018, 03:00:03 PM »
Common sense gun restrictions would have the added benefit of not only reducing school shootings, but other gun related violence as well.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4930 on: February 27, 2018, 03:00:27 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.

The odds of either you or your kids being on campus during a school shooting are slightly higher than zero, though. There are currently more than 150,000 people who were students during a school shooting since Columbine. That makes close to 300,000 parents and some tens of thousands of teachers and faculty. That makes the odds somewhere around 1 in 1000 if you divide these people by the US population.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4931 on: February 27, 2018, 03:03:05 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.

The odds of either you or your kids being on campus during a school shooting are slightly higher than zero, though. There are currently more than 150,000 people who were students during a school shooting since Columbine. That makes close to 300,000 parents and some tens of thousands of teachers and faculty. That makes the odds somewhere around 1 in 1000 if you divide these people by the US population.
Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.

it's a less damaging idea than the idea of turning all schools into medieval fortresses with metal-detecting moats, i'll give the gun nuts that.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4932 on: February 27, 2018, 03:04:13 PM »
The odds of either you or your kids being on campus during a school shooting are slightly higher than zero, though. There are currently more than 150,000 people who were students during a school shooting since Columbine. That makes close to 300,000 parents and some tens of thousands of teachers and faculty. That makes the odds somewhere around 1 in 1000 if you divide these people by the US population.

that's including any and all shootings, not just the mass shootings that people care about.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4933 on: February 27, 2018, 03:10:20 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.

it would be kind of refreshing for a politician to say this out loud

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4934 on: February 27, 2018, 03:13:55 PM »


just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.
Agreed.

Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.

Define "sweeping gun restrictions"

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4935 on: February 27, 2018, 05:08:20 PM »


just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.
Agreed.

Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.

Define "sweeping gun restrictions"

I don’t know. Define the “common sense gun control” liberals are clamoring for. One idea that seems to have broad Democrat appeal is banning “assault weapons” and/or just specifically banning the AR-15, which are both pretty absurd and useless ideas. Oh, and let’s not forgot the divest and sanction movement against the NRA.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4936 on: February 27, 2018, 05:52:40 PM »


just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.
Agreed.

Agreed, but it seems like taking common sense measures to enhance school security is a small enough burden (unlike, say, sweeping gun restrictions) that it's worth implementing, even if the odds are school shootings are infinitesimal.

Define "sweeping gun restrictions"

I don’t know. Define the “common sense gun control” liberals are clamoring for. One idea that seems to have broad Democrat appeal is banning “assault weapons” and/or just specifically banning the AR-15, which are both pretty absurd and useless ideas. Oh, and let’s not forgot the divest and sanction movement against the NRA.
Wasn't sure you were referencing a specific or just in general everything people are proposing. Guess it's the later.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4937 on: February 27, 2018, 06:00:23 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.

it would be kind of refreshing for a politician to say this out loud

Yes, everyone would find it refreshing if trump said that.   :lol:

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4938 on: February 27, 2018, 06:20:30 PM »
What is divest and sanction?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4939 on: February 27, 2018, 07:02:35 PM »
What is divest and sanction?

That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4940 on: February 27, 2018, 07:10:42 PM »
What is divest and sanction?

That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.

What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4941 on: February 27, 2018, 07:10:49 PM »
Local KC company Lockton just told the NRA to get mumped


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4942 on: February 27, 2018, 07:12:12 PM »
What is divest and sanction?

That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.

What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?

Not giving nra members special discounts

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4943 on: February 27, 2018, 07:13:28 PM »
We can all agree that someone should put in some effort to study the problem, right? Maybe study what kind of solutions could have a positive effect of reducing gun violence. You'd have to be pretty evil to not let someone try to solve the problem.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4944 on: February 27, 2018, 07:15:02 PM »
just a quick reminder that with or without teacher/gunners, the odds of a child being shot at school is essentially zero.  ok, back to your extremely important debate.

it would be kind of refreshing for a politician to say this out loud

Yes, everyone would find it refreshing if trump said that.   :lol:

It would take exactly .00001 seconds before the libbot twitter accounts were tweeting "Trump condones child murder" and .00002 seconds before those tweets were pasted in this thread for "debate."
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4945 on: February 27, 2018, 07:18:46 PM »
What is divest and sanction?

That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.

What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?

Not giving nra members special discounts

That’s not a sanction that’s the free market

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4946 on: February 27, 2018, 07:30:01 PM »
What is divest and sanction?

That’s a reference to the BDS (boycott, divestment, sanction) movement liberals have tried to implement against Israel and Israeli interests. They are now trying a similar tactic against the NRA. It’s not panning out so well for the companies who made knee jerk decisions to appease the mob. I think theyre going to discover that the NRA mob of 5 million+ is going to have more influence. We will see.

What sanctions have private businesses leveled against the NRA?

Not giving nra members special discounts

That’s not a sanction that’s the free market

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4947 on: February 27, 2018, 07:34:47 PM »
Good point. You voted for her right, lib?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4948 on: February 27, 2018, 10:04:36 PM »
Arming 20% of teachers like trump suggests is so incredibly stupid I can't believe you guys are spending time debating it. Why not debate building invisible force fields that each student puts over their body when they enter into school and then take off when they go home each night?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4949 on: February 27, 2018, 10:16:59 PM »
Arming 20% of teachers like trump suggests is so incredibly stupid I can't believe you guys are spending time debating it. Why not debate building invisible force fields that each student puts over their body when they enter into school and then take off when they go home each night?

In favor of this.