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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3625 on: October 08, 2015, 01:51:30 PM »
i thought the training thing would be a no brainer, because it would also make the gun owners more efficient killers. everybody wins

its the implied registration that is a deal breaker for them

You could just do it like a hunter's safety class.  As in to buy a guy you gotta take a class.  You get a card or are put in some database of having taken the class.  Boom now you can buy a gun.  No registration required.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3626 on: October 08, 2015, 01:52:20 PM »
if you get a card are are in a database, thats registration, bud

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3627 on: October 08, 2015, 01:53:26 PM »
i like where you are going with the REI thing though. libtard hippies enjoy the crap out of nature all the time while conservatroll sportsmen foot the bill.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3628 on: October 08, 2015, 01:53:42 PM »
Start calling it a gun database, boom, compromise!
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3629 on: October 08, 2015, 01:54:19 PM »
if you get a card are are in a database, thats registration, bud

Well, cmon, it's not like they don't store the information when the background check is initiated today. 


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3630 on: October 08, 2015, 01:54:42 PM »
Start calling it a gun database, boom, compromise!

progress is this easy folks. WE should all be in congress.

AND  congress should be a message board.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3631 on: October 08, 2015, 01:55:27 PM »
if you get a card are are in a database, thats registration, bud

Well, cmon, it's not like they don't store the information when the background check is initiated today.

of course they do, but there is no interconnectedness and many legal ways to get guns with no background checks

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3632 on: October 08, 2015, 01:58:13 PM »
if you get a card are are in a database, thats registration, bud

Well, cmon, it's not like they don't store the information when the background check is initiated today.

of course they do, but there is no interconnectedness and many legal ways to get guns with no background checks

Ok, now you want to outlaw or force the background check on citizen to citizen sales.  I'm going to need something for that.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3633 on: October 08, 2015, 01:58:35 PM »
I took a gun safety course with my dad so he could get a concealed permit (before brownbackistan decided that course was too much of a burden). It for sure should be mandatory for gun purchases.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3634 on: October 08, 2015, 02:00:22 PM »
Ok, now you want to outlaw or force the background check on citizen to citizen sales.  I'm going to need something for that.

OK, the training card will apply here too. What do you want?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3635 on: October 08, 2015, 02:00:57 PM »
Why are gun nuts so scared of background checks for private gun transfers?
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3636 on: October 08, 2015, 02:07:29 PM »
Ok, now you want to outlaw or force the background check on citizen to citizen sales.  I'm going to need something for that.

OK, the training card will apply here too. What do you want?

Honestly I'm still pretty buzzed about all the money from the last one.   :excited:

I'd would settle for some clarifying/stronger language in the 2nd amendment guaranteeing future rights. 

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3637 on: October 08, 2015, 02:09:07 PM »
the 2nd definitely needs to be reworded to mean something meaningful.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3638 on: October 08, 2015, 02:09:37 PM »
this compromise definitely depends on what you want it to say

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3639 on: October 08, 2015, 02:10:05 PM »
Why are gun nuts so scared of background checks for private gun transfers?

It's just a private property rights type thing, administrative hassle/burden.  It's pretty annoying, for example, going to Cabela's and taking over 2 hours to buy a hunting rifle.  Also there are a lot of people not open to compromise.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3640 on: October 08, 2015, 02:11:21 PM »
No compromise  :frown:
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3641 on: October 08, 2015, 02:11:36 PM »
this compromise definitely depends on what you want it to say

Personally, I think it should be clear that one of the purposes for the people to "bear arms" is so that they might prevent, or fight, tyranny.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3642 on: October 08, 2015, 02:12:14 PM »
are YOU ready to write a new 2nd RIGHT NOW?

you are on the clock.

2 mins.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3643 on: October 08, 2015, 02:13:35 PM »
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3644 on: October 08, 2015, 02:27:30 PM »
:runaway:

times up. the second amendment has been dragged 'n dropped into the recycle bin.

(a lot of people are very very angry at you)

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3645 on: October 08, 2015, 02:30:45 PM »
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3646 on: October 08, 2015, 03:26:29 PM »
But again, the only solution to that would be a massive effort to confiscate/buy back guns kinda like Australia tried, and that's not gonna happen. Even if it did, it would take decades to filter out guns, and most of those guns would be forfeited by law abiding people. The guns are here. The genie is out of the bottle. I suspect that solutions that focus more on prevention and mental illness might be more effective.

I really, really find the "the genie's already out of the bottle" issue to be true.  The amount of guns in this country make comparisons to other countries completely apples and oranges.  That said, if we start getting serious about ammunition, then that is negated to some degree.

Maybe, but I don't think driving up the price of ammo, through taxation or regulation, would do anything except encourage a huge black market for ammo. Think Prohibition.

OK, using a "black market" boogeyman as an argument is ridiculous.  There's a pretty thriving black market for basically every sort of illegal drug, but that doesn't mean that we should leave heroin unchecked.

That's why I used the Prohibition analogy. Booze had been with us since the founding, was perfectly legal, and then was made illegal. Not so for heroin. Sure there's a black market for all sorts of illegal things, but a black market for things like booze or guns - which have been part of country's DNA since before its founding - would explode. Hell, guns are more firmly enshrined than booze - they have their own amendment. It just wouldn't work.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3647 on: October 08, 2015, 03:27:55 PM »
actually a majority of the drugs that are currently illegal to possess were legal for a long time in this country. most were not prohibited until after the prohibition of alcohol.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3648 on: October 08, 2015, 03:28:37 PM »
dangit, emo's seppuku was the perfect end to this thread. i was hoping for a lock.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3649 on: October 08, 2015, 03:30:49 PM »
Yeah heroin was completely legal and unregulated until the 20th century

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_United_States_drug_prohibition