Another school shooting

[Spracne]

Yes, it is a war memorial on the Capital campus.  I agree it is a bit misleading the way the story is being reported.

[Dugout DickStone]

omg

[steve dave]

So, we can have a Confederate war memorial, but it can't include a Confederate flag? Or should the memorial not be on public land? Or should there not be a war memorial, period? I need someone more enlightened than me to parse this out.

The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election

[CNS]

The south is disgusting in a lot of ways.  Can you imagine if they won independence and didn't have us to keep them somewhat in line on some of the basics of taking care of crap and not being horrible disgusting ppl?  They would be one of the worst countries on the planet. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

The south is disgusting in a lot of ways.  Can you imagine if they won independence and didn't have us to keep them somewhat in line on some of the basics of taking care of crap and not being horrible disgusting ppl?  They would be one of the worst countries on the planet.

They would have allied themselves with Hitler during WW2. We probably would have nuked those mother fuckers.

[CNS]

The south is disgusting in a lot of ways.  Can you imagine if they won independence and didn't have us to keep them somewhat in line on some of the basics of taking care of crap and not being horrible disgusting ppl?  They would be one of the worst countries on the planet.

They would have allied themselves with Hitler during WW2. We probably would have nuked those mother fuckers.

No way.  Hitler would have demanded that all slaves be put to the gas chamber eventually.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So, we can have a Confederate war memorial, but it can't include a Confederate flag? Or should the memorial not be on public land? Or should there not be a war memorial, period? I need someone more enlightened than me to parse this out.

The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election

It was also carried into battle by the Confederacy, but I guess that little detail doesn't matter?

[Rage Against the McKee]

So, we can have a Confederate war memorial, but it can't include a Confederate flag? Or should the memorial not be on public land? Or should there not be a war memorial, period? I need someone more enlightened than me to parse this out.

The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election

It was also carried into battle by the Confederacy, but I guess that little detail doesn't matter?

Well, maybe they should put the flag on display inside the museum in a historically accurate way, rather than flying it outside with the US flag.

[star seed 7]

Why don't they use the actual csa flag instead of the one that racist decided to take

[Mr Bread]

wikipedia says this was their last national flag.

do they fly this one anywhere down there?

[michigancat]

wikipedia says this was their last national flag.

do they fly this one anywhere down there?

that's a poorly designed flag. my goodness.

[0.42]

wikipedia says this was their last national flag.

do they fly this one anywhere down there?

that's a poorly designed flag. my goodness.

adobe boycotted the csa so all they had was ms paint

[Unruly]

Current MS state flag:




 

[CNS]

Current MS state flag:




 

Turn it upside down and it looks like a sterotypical Mississippian.  Red neck, conf flag tat on shoulder, white beater tee, blue jorts.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Nobody who is alive today was a slave or fought for the confederacy, therefore, anyone purporting to be offended by it or nostalgic about it should be summarily executed for wasting our precious oxygen.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If anything, those who fly the flag today are worse than those who fought for the Confederacy.

[mocat]

Current MS state flag:




 

Turn it upside down and it looks like a sterotypical Mississippian.  Red neck, conf flag tat on shoulder, white beater tee, blue jorts.

upside down like the bolton guy?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If anything, those who fly the flag today are worse than those who fought for the Confederacy.

Because they haven't formally and properly seceded from the union, or because the Confederate war museum is a racist?

[CNS]

That works too, I guess.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If anything, those who fly the flag today are worse than those who fought for the Confederacy.

Because they haven't formally and properly seceded from the union, or because the Confederate war museum is a racist?

Because the confederate flag wasn't the racist symbol that it is today.

[MakeItRain]

If we banned the public display of the flag on the grounds that it is a symbol of oppression or even murder in the name of white supremacy, would you also support the Native Americans if they were to bring a cause against the American Flag as a symbol of the same?  Remember that the Union troops were flying Old Glory as they struck out West, slaughtering and displacing native groups with extreme prejudice.

Hell yeah

[420seriouscat69]

Luked?

https://twitter.com/TheRoot/status/613050071291154432

[jmlynch1]

The Confederate Battle Flag is not about racism.  The vast majority of those who fought for the South in the civil war weren't fighting for slavery.  They did not own slaves, and they would never be wealthy enough to be able to participate in the enterprise.  What they were fighting for was freedom from northern encroachment into their self-governance.

If we banned the public display of the flag on the grounds that it is a symbol of oppression or even murder in the name of white supremacy, would you also support the Native Americans if they were to bring a cause against the American Flag as a symbol of the same?  Remember that the Union troops were flying Old Glory as they struck out West, slaughtering and displacing native groups with extreme prejudice.  So, who decides which symbolic meanings should be attached to these flags?

For many Southerners, the Confederate Battle Flag is a nod to their past and a symbol of their rebellious spirit.  The displaying of the flag does not represent a true act of sedition, since those who fly it have been fully assimilated into the modern Republican Party.

The winners

[michigancat]

Luked?

https://twitter.com/TheRoot/status/613050071291154432

I feel like people keep trying to make excuses for the south's racism by shifting the blame to a single weirdo kid when it's an entire culture of racist fucks that made a weirdo kid a homicidal racist.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I caught myself in Wee Britain (arrested development reference ) yesterday. Not only do these backwoods hillbillies still drive on the wrong side of the road, but they also still fly the old union jack proudly and profusely. I was so offended!

Don't they know we won that war? Don't they know how offensive is to tea and tobacco farmers? One of my ancestors was an Indian (casino, not convenience store) who faught alongside the British in the revolutionary war for money. When those idiots lost to a bunch of New York peasants he was imprisoned and his undeveloped land farmed fo, get this, profit. I hate everyone!