Another school shooting

[star seed 7]

those circles should really overlap a whole lot more

[420seriouscat69]

Plenty of dumbass liberals love shooting things. Most the time it's not guns, but they shoot those too. This is not a party thing. This is a "we have some dumb fucks who live in this world" kind of thing.

[Emo EMAW]

those circles should really overlap a whole lot more

It's not to scale. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Only dumbass conservatives supported Clive Bundy.

So, no anarchists supported Bundy?

As a moderate, I feel it's a little disrespectful to call the liberals "dumbasses" in your graphic, but at least you got the color right.

[Cartierfor3]

some conservatives killed some cops in vegas.

Bubbles, everything is repub vs. dem for you. Sometimes crazy people are just crazy, and not representative of a larger group.

there seem to be a lot of crazies among conservative gun nuts.

Well of course, but you tend to put everyone in two categories when you make arguments here. You find a crazy conservative, or a cool lib, and use them to prove a point about the entire group. Let go of party politics, its freeing.

[Emo EMAW]

Troutdale, OR, today.

[EMAWmeister]

Troutdale, OR, today.

How many is that this month?

[Emo EMAW]

I think we avg 9.5 a month these days.

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[sonofdaxjones]

Does anyone think that part of the motivation is the coverage these events are given by the media?

I do.

[chuckjames]

Plenty of dumbass liberals love shooting things. Most the time it's not guns, but they shoot those too. This is not a party thing. This is a "we have some dumb fucks who live in this world" kind of thing.

So shouldn't we try to limit these dumb fucks from getting guns?

[EMAWmeister]

Does anyone think that part of the motivation is the coverage these events are given by the media?

I do.

I disagree, for the most part.

[sonofdaxjones]

Does anyone think that part of the motivation is the coverage these events are given by the media?

I do.

I disagree, for the most part.

I know, it doesn't fit the anti-gun narrative.

[SdK]

If only there was something we could do to stop this.

[Institutional Control]

Does anyone think that part of the motivation is the coverage these events are given by the media?

I do.

I'm sure in most cases, it's a part of the motivation. 

[EMAWmeister]

Does anyone think that part of the motivation is the coverage these events are given by the media?

I do.

I disagree, for the most part.

I know, it doesn't fit the anti-gun narrative.

It seems like 2 school shootings a week seems like a real problem 

[chuckjames]

Cant we just all agree that similar to the 3/5 clause, thr 2nd amendment is a dumb amendment and move on? We've already pissed on the 4th and 8th so the 2nd shouldn't be that big of deal. 

[michigancat]

Yes, the media has more to do with people killing kids at schools than the ease of acquiring guns.

[Emo EMAW]

A 1997 Justice Department survey of more than 18,000 state and federal convicts revealed the truth:

• 39.6% of criminals obtained a gun from a friend or family member
• 39.2% of criminals obtained a gun on the street or from an illegal source
• 0.7% of criminals purchased a gun at a gun show
• 1% of criminals purchased a gun at a flea market
• 3.8% of criminals purchased a gun from a pawn shop
• 8.3% of criminals actually bought their guns from retail outlets

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/11/where-criminals-get-their-guns/#ixzz34GFwSk00

[Institutional Control]

Have any data less than 15 years old?

[SdK]

A 1997 Justice Department survey of more than 18,000 state and federal convicts revealed the truth:

• 39.6% of criminals obtained a gun from a friend or family member
• 39.2% of criminals obtained a gun on the street or from an illegal source
• 0.7% of criminals purchased a gun at a gun show
• 1% of criminals purchased a gun at a flea market
• 3.8% of criminals purchased a gun from a pawn shop
• 8.3% of criminals actually bought their guns from retail outlets

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/11/where-criminals-get-their-guns/#ixzz34GFwSk00

Massive holes in the obtaining of guns by said family members/friends and on the street sources. Just because they didn't buy them themselves and would have been prohibited doesn't mean that the people they got them from would be able to obtain a gun willy nilly with more strict legislation. 

[michigancat]

A 1997 Justice Department survey of more than 18,000 state and federal convicts revealed the truth:

• 39.6% of criminals obtained a gun from a friend or family member
• 39.2% of criminals obtained a gun on the street or from an illegal source
• 0.7% of criminals purchased a gun at a gun show
• 1% of criminals purchased a gun at a flea market
• 3.8% of criminals purchased a gun from a pawn shop
• 8.3% of criminals actually bought their guns from retail outlets

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/11/where-criminals-get-their-guns/#ixzz34GFwSk00

Was this supposed to contradict what I posted? Because it should be more difficult to obtain firearms from family members or let them slip into the black market.

[SdK]

Jon Stewart made a valid point about open carrying and stand your ground being on a crash course. Maybe all the extreme gun nuts will start killing each other off when they feel threatened by someone openly carrying that isn't known to them or trying to demonstrate with them?

[Emo EMAW]

It was really just to offer some perspective.  I have seen some more recently published data (in print) and cannot locate it online.  Please if you can find something more current please post it. 

I would love to hear some suggestions on how to keep people from giving guns to family members or friends. 

[michigancat]

I would love to hear some suggestions on how to keep people from giving guns to family members or friends. 

Make all guns registered, all transactions and exchanges of firearms reported to law enforcement, all owners must have a gun-owning license, charging people for crimes when their legally obtained guns are used to commit crimes if there was no transaction reported, etc.

[SdK]

I second mcat. All I'd ask for is personal responsibility.  Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Well if you're gun kills someone. I'd say you assisted in the murder and should be charged accordingly.