Author Topic: Another school shooting (Read 492431 times)

puniraptor · « **Reply #4550 on:** February 16, 2018, 10:33:36 PM »

Quote from: SkinnyBenny on February 16, 2018, 10:05:58 PM

One side would be happy to address both of those, and one side will not allow it. I'll let you take a guess which one's which.

Does one side think that 17 people could easily be shot to death with a stone or club?

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #4551 on:** February 16, 2018, 11:59:14 PM »

"NOPE THAT WOULD NEVER WORK, BETTER NOT EVEN INVESTIGATE ANYTHING FURTHER!" --every #2A bad person

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #4552 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:27:01 AM »

Nothing like a shooting to pull the foot out of a sock

8manpick · « **Reply #4553 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM »

Getting the insurance industry involved in more parts of life rather than fewer is a pretty WTF idea.

michigancat · « **Reply #4554 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:55:23 AM »

Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM

Getting the insurance industry involved in more parts of life rather than fewer is a pretty WTF idea.

why

8manpick · « **Reply #4555 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:59:16 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 07:55:23 AM

Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM
Getting the insurance industry involved in more parts of life rather than fewer is a pretty WTF idea.
why

The insurance industry has had a toxic effect on our healthcare system, and I would expect it to act similarly here.

michigancat · « **Reply #4556 on:** February 17, 2018, 08:14:57 AM »

Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:59:16 AM

Quote from: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 07:55:23 AM
Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM
Getting the insurance industry involved in more parts of life rather than fewer is a pretty WTF idea.
why
The insurance industry has had a toxic effect on our healthcare system, and I would expect it to act similarly here.

Still pretty vague and not a great comparison.

Woogy · « **Reply #4557 on:** February 17, 2018, 08:53:59 AM »

National Flood Insurance Program.
Doesn't stop floods or losses; at risk redevelopment can be wink-wink, nudge-nudge approved.

I suppose it would work if we're going to assign criminal and civil liability to the owner of a weapon. What would be the intent of the insurance: create a high hurdle to ownership, a get out of jail card for the owner, or a compensation pool for victims?

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #4558 on:** February 17, 2018, 09:45:54 AM »

Quote from: sys on February 16, 2018, 09:38:17 PM

one of the things i understand less than almost anything else is people that decide to kill themselves and don't choose to do so by overdosing on morphine.

When I start to get dementia, this is my plan. Still trying to figure out how to execute the plan though.

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #4559 on:** February 17, 2018, 09:55:43 AM »

insurance as a solution to the problems of mental health and assault weapon availability is so embarrassingly neo-lib

steve dave · « **Reply #4560 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:06:48 AM »

what is the insurance for? just charge people licensing and registration fees for every gun. use the money for school safety, health programs, etc. no need to complicate it.

michigancat · « **Reply #4561 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:13:11 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:06:48 AM

what is the insurance for? just charge people licensing and registration fees for every gun. use the money for school safety, health programs, etc. no need to complicate it.

I'm assuming it would be like liability insurance required to operate a car. I also really like your ideas and have for a long time.

wetwillie · « **Reply #4562 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:23:50 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:06:48 AM

what is the insurance for? just charge people licensing and registration fees for every gun. use the money for school safety, health programs, etc. no need to complicate it.

How much

Institutional Control · « **Reply #4563 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:36:52 AM »

Quote from: TheHamburglar on February 17, 2018, 09:45:54 AM

Quote from: sys on February 16, 2018, 09:38:17 PM
one of the things i understand less than almost anything else is people that decide to kill themselves and don't choose to do so by overdosing on morphine.

When I start to get dementia, this is my plan. Still trying to figure out how to execute the plan though.

No worries, you won’t remember the plan when it comes time to execute it anyway.

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steve dave · « **Reply #4564 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:48:11 AM »

Quote from: wetwillie on February 17, 2018, 10:23:50 AM

Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:06:48 AM
what is the insurance for? just charge people licensing and registration fees for every gun. use the money for school safety, health programs, etc. no need to complicate it.

How much

enough to fund the registry and provide money for school safety and health programs at whatever the level is they decide to be funded at. I don't know how much that is but I know there are about a trillion guns in Meade, KS alone so it doesn't need to be an exorbitant amount on a per gun basis.

Phil Titola · « **Reply #4565 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:49:23 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:48:11 AM

Quote from: wetwillie on February 17, 2018, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:06:48 AM
what is the insurance for? just charge people licensing and registration fees for every gun. use the money for school safety, health programs, etc. no need to complicate it.

How much

enough to fund the registry and provide money for school safety and health programs at whatever the level is they decide to be funded at. I don't know how much that is but I know there are about a trillion guns in Meade, KS alone so it doesn't need to be an exorbitant amount on a per gun basis.

We figured out car insurance, I'm sure the insurance company's can get their actuaries on this too....

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #4566 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:52:05 AM »

The easiest answer to this is to take away automatic weapons. The diseased will still find a way to get them, but at least it will slow down the process.

wetwillie · « **Reply #4567 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:58:37 AM »

pretty reasonable plan from the last true moderate on planet earth Steven David

I_have_purplewood · « **Reply #4568 on:** February 17, 2018, 11:13:30 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:48:11 AM

Quote from: wetwillie on February 17, 2018, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: steve dave on February 17, 2018, 10:06:48 AM
what is the insurance for? just charge people licensing and registration fees for every gun. use the money for school safety, health programs, etc. no need to complicate it.

How much

enough to fund the registry and provide money for school safety and health programs at whatever the level is they decide to be funded at. I don't know how much that is but I know there are about a trillion guns in Meade, KS alone so it doesn't need to be an exorbitant amount on a per gun basis.

The more powerful the gun the more you could charge too.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #4569 on:** February 17, 2018, 11:26:40 AM »

The premium for an AR would be roughly what State Farm charges for a 16 year old boy driving a vette

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #4570 on:** February 17, 2018, 11:34:55 AM »

Of course the premiums would need to be means tested

Phil Titola · « **Reply #4571 on:** February 17, 2018, 11:37:30 AM »

SD...take it to the bipartisan thread...I think we got something here!

Joker · « **Reply #4572 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:14:55 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 17, 2018, 10:52:05 AM

The easiest answer to this is to take away automatic weapons. The diseased will still find a way to get them, but at least it will slow down the process.

I assume you mean semi-auto? Automatic weapons are already banned.

Banning semi-automatic weapons would eliminate the majority of modern handguns sold/used today.

Joker · « **Reply #4573 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:29:05 PM »

I should note that automatic weapons manufactured before 1986 have been grandfathered in. However, while technically you could obtain one, it is incredibly expensive and requires a tedious application/review process through the ATF.

https://twitter.com/StephenGutowski/status/914867501489639424

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/its-still-legal-to-own-a-machine-gun-its-also-extremely-difficult-and-especially-expensive/article/2636302

Institutional Control · « **Reply #4574 on:** February 17, 2018, 12:55:18 PM »

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