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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6925 on: December 17, 2012, 12:52:44 PM »

oh, and I noticed you are bitching about wide receiver?  you serious?  not a need in this class.

who replaces Harper? you think we get by on Lockett, TT, and Sexton?  Miller is just awful.

This. We do not have a big wideout to throw to. We are stocked with little guys.

Going to need to start converting fullbacks if you want someone Harpers size. 

Seriously, Harper's a freak.  You just don't get guys like that often.  Between Sexton, Lockett, TT, Trujillo and McDonald, your bases are mostly covered.  K. Klein or somebody else will get into the mix as a larger receiver as well.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6926 on: December 17, 2012, 12:53:41 PM »
Maybe Miller doesn't suck that bad?

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6927 on: December 17, 2012, 12:54:11 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

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« Reply #6928 on: December 17, 2012, 12:55:24 PM »
Ok so who out of this recruiting class will come in and start right away on D? Spaight, Ramirez, Nash?

Spraight, Nash, Nate Jackson and some other corner...

I'd add Riyahd Jones and Marcus Hardison if we get them.

I mean, can you imagine Nash and Hardison starting opposite of each other?! Same with Jackson and Jones at Corner?!

 :excited: :love:

you really are "that guy".

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6929 on: December 17, 2012, 12:58:28 PM »
to those who refuted my prediction on Kliff Kingsbury's coaching career.  Please post your reasons for why he will be successful.  Is it because he played for Leach or coached an offense this year that won style points in your eyes?  There is so much more to building a program.

Here are the reasons why I believe he will fail...

1.  YOUTH.  He doesn't know what he doesn't know yet.  It's cool to float a hoodie on the sideline and chest bump Manziel...it's another to be a CEO of a $50M a year organization.
2.  LACK OF EMPHASIS ON A RUNNING GAME AND DEFENSE.  Kliff's into stylish offenses that throw the ball 50 times a game.  He only knows what Mike taught him.  He will not have a consistent running attack and he might yell at the guys to play some defense every once in a while.

Mike Leach is one of the very few head coaches who could have reasonable success with a pass happy offense.  But in most years his teams were no better than 8-4 types and he only threatened for a conference title once in his 10 years.  To be consistently good you must have a good running game and play pretty good defense.  it doesn't hurt to be good in special teams.

Tech should have done everything in their power to keep Tuberville happy.  He was building something because he believes in the running game and solid defense.  He was as competitive or even more competitive in the SEC than Leach was at Tech (he at least won the SEC and was more consistently and realistically in the hunt for the SEC crown moreso than Leach).

Thanks for listening and appreciate the give and take.  I'll be this guy >  :lol: in a few years when Kliff Kingsbury is called Kliff Katastrophe by the Lubbock natives, hoodie be damned.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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« Reply #6930 on: December 17, 2012, 01:00:07 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

3.5....I think he sticks with us.  But even if he doesn't I won't meltdown about it.  I do find that reading this recruiting thread is very entertaining in a "don't take anyone serious" sort of way.
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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« Reply #6931 on: December 17, 2012, 01:01:26 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

3.5....I think he sticks with us.  But even if he doesn't I won't meltdown about it.  I do find that reading this recruiting thread is very entertaining in a "don't take anyone serious" sort of way.

Hmmm, thought you were pretty high on him.

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« Reply #6932 on: December 17, 2012, 01:02:35 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

3.5....I think he sticks with us.  But even if he doesn't I won't meltdown about it.  I do find that reading this recruiting thread is very entertaining in a "don't take anyone serious" sort of way.

Hmmm, thought you were pretty high on him.

I am pretty high on him.  I'm also pretty high on how this class is unfolding. 
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6933 on: December 17, 2012, 01:03:25 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

3.5....I think he sticks with us.  But even if he doesn't I won't meltdown about it.  I do find that reading this recruiting thread is very entertaining in a "don't take anyone serious" sort of way.

Hmmm, thought you were pretty high on him.

I am pretty high on him.  I'm also pretty high on how this class is unfolding.

yeah, it's a pretty stud class

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« Reply #6934 on: December 17, 2012, 01:04:50 PM »
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Maybe Miller doesn't suck that bad?

NOPE

I think he could be pretty good if he learned how to catch.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6935 on: December 17, 2012, 01:05:50 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

3.5....I think he sticks with us.  But even if he doesn't I won't meltdown about it.  I do find that reading this recruiting thread is very entertaining in a "don't take anyone serious" sort of way.

I do, too.  I think there's too much to risk letting them into the mix for him.

He can sign on Wednesday and report to KSU for the Spring semester and participate in Spring drills for a shot at a starting job next fall.  This is fact.

Everything with Arkansas is predicated on a lot of "if".  If he gets qualified.  If he gets there in time for Spring drills.  If he doesn't, can he realistically compete when he comes in during Summer camp.

If you're a JUCO kid with a limited clock left, are you willing to risk a sure thing on a bunch of "if"?  If so, you're a lot more daring than I am.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6936 on: December 17, 2012, 01:06:26 PM »
:nono:
Maybe Miller doesn't suck that bad?

NOPE

I think he could be pretty good if he learned how to catch.

He absolutely destroyed his CB in run-blocking against UT.

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« Reply #6937 on: December 17, 2012, 01:39:56 PM »

Again, look at the numbers where the scholarships are allotted and the true needs.  we don't need some tall receiver.  And, no, I am not suggesting we just get by with Lockett and Thompson.  We will have other receivers capable of making some plays.


Welp, we didn't have any other receivers capable of making some plays in '12.  Other than Harper, I can't recall a "bigger" receiver catching a pass.  I'm sure it happened, but I seriously can't recall. 

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« Reply #6938 on: December 17, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »
Know this: it is okay to be a fan of another team while playing for the Kansas State University Fighting Wildcats

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« Reply #6939 on: December 17, 2012, 01:53:41 PM »
Ok so who out of this recruiting class will come in and start right away on D? Spaight, Ramirez, Nash?

Spraight, Nash, Nate Jackson and some other corner...

I'd add Riyahd Jones and Marcus Hardison if we get them.

I mean, can you imagine Nash and Hardison starting opposite of each other?! Same with Jackson and Jones at Corner?!

 :excited: :love:

you really are "that guy".

I have to live up to my self-proclaimed name...

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« Reply #6940 on: December 17, 2012, 02:04:16 PM »
'hatter, rate the suckiness of the Spaight news from 1-10. I give it a 9.

3.5....I think he sticks with us.  But even if he doesn't I won't meltdown about it.  I do find that reading this recruiting thread is very entertaining in a "don't take anyone serious" sort of way.

I do, too.  I think there's too much to risk letting them into the mix for him.

He can sign on Wednesday and report to KSU for the Spring semester and participate in Spring drills for a shot at a starting job next fall.  This is fact.

Everything with Arkansas is predicated on a lot of "if".  If he gets qualified.  If he gets there in time for Spring drills.  If he doesn't, can he realistically compete when he comes in during Summer camp.

If you're a JUCO kid with a limited clock left, are you willing to risk a sure thing on a bunch of "if"?  If so, you're a lot more daring than I am.

You guys keep trying to apply logic to the decisions that 18-20 year old kids are making. When I was being recruited (in baseball), if KSU offered me even a preferred walk on spot I would have chosen that slim opportunity to play over going elsewhere with beyter prospects, and it wouldn't have even been a tough call for me.

His favorite team is offering him a scholarship...I wouldn't blame him in the least for taking a chance to play for his home team.

If you have a chance to do that, you buck up for a semester, or a winter class and get it done.

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« Reply #6941 on: December 17, 2012, 02:09:26 PM »

Again, look at the numbers where the scholarships are allotted and the true needs.  we don't need some tall receiver.  And, no, I am not suggesting we just get by with Lockett and Thompson.  We will have other receivers capable of making some plays.


Welp, we didn't have any other receivers capable of making some plays in '12.  Other than Harper, I can't recall a "bigger" receiver catching a pass.  I'm sure it happened, but I seriously can't recall.

Did baby Klein ever catch a pass?  Regardless, we do have bigger receivers on the team but they're underclassmen.  Maybe we are trying to maybe pick up a juco guy but no more HS kids because we already have some young talent on the squad.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6942 on: December 17, 2012, 02:23:08 PM »
i agree with 'hatter that we don't need any more for this class. we lose mcfall and harper and we add gordon, vaughn (gs) and jones (gs). numbers-wise, it doesn't make sense. one of burton, klein, sexton, or west will inevitably step up and be productive. DT, LB and DB are what we need to focus on to round out this class.

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« Reply #6943 on: December 17, 2012, 03:05:46 PM »

Again, look at the numbers where the scholarships are allotted and the true needs.  we don't need some tall receiver.  And, no, I am not suggesting we just get by with Lockett and Thompson.  We will have other receivers capable of making some plays.


Welp, we didn't have any other receivers capable of making some plays in '12.  Other than Harper, I can't recall a "bigger" receiver catching a pass.  I'm sure it happened, but I seriously can't recall.

welp, based on the observations from our recruiting efforts the coaches don't seem nearly as concerned about that area of the team.  I'm just guessing that may have something to do with analyzing some of the kids we have in the program on a daily basis.
Academics is a stupid word.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6944 on: December 17, 2012, 03:13:47 PM »
TN just offered Jones

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6945 on: December 17, 2012, 03:19:26 PM »
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« Reply #6946 on: December 17, 2012, 03:20:35 PM »
Welp was fun  :thumbs:

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6947 on: December 17, 2012, 03:21:44 PM »
Man, this has been a bad day for Cats recruiting.   :cry:

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #6948 on: December 17, 2012, 03:22:39 PM »
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« Reply #6949 on: December 17, 2012, 03:23:37 PM »
UT is a f*cking train wreck.  I still say Ole Miss is our biggest competition there.  I say we're still good.
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