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It's not nearly enough given their task.

people say that about every job.  police officer isn't the most dangerous or (anywhere close to) the hardest job around.  not that salary correlates to either.

It's barely a living wage (at least starting out).

depends completely on the jurisdiction.  there are lots of places were police are well paid blue collar jobs. 

There are open cop jobs now.

unemployment rate is what, 15% currently?  if they can't hire good people now, it's because they're not trying to hire good people.

Would you be rehiring BETTER people under the current situation?


The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: June 02, 2020, 08:44:11 PM »
as much as i don't want to laugh at the repression and decay of our country, they do make it funny sometimes.

i wasn't among the people that thought that the protests&repressions thereof would benefit trump, but i certainly didn't think that the, not quite condemnation, but at least hesitancy to unconditionally support him, would be this broad.

the idea that we aren't going to be able to hire any new police if we fire some of the current ones is laughably stupid.

The problem is phrases like "the whole system needs revamped" is such a vague statement that I think wood and rusty are probably imagining two different things.

The police reaction to all of this kind of seems like they are staging their own violent protest against having to protect minorities.


The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Ben Sasse
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:53:08 PM »
Ben bringing an absolute hammer to Trump. #myguy

the courage of republican who just won his primary.


The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: June 02, 2020, 12:46:48 AM »
he needs to be prosecuted when he leaves office.


Or he was in a place a shouldn't have been, or one of his fellow peaceful protesters launched a projectile in the air with unintended consequences, or just about anything else could have occurred besides a police officer shooting him point blank in the face with a tear gas canister. But whatever, man.....

With this many folks involved there is going to be crap that goes sideways.........

unfortunate how crap goes sideways here.  no one at fault, obviously.  just whatever, man.....

The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: June 01, 2020, 11:03:24 PM »
the (coordinated?) tweets celebrating trump's heroic crossing of lafayette square are humorous in retrospect given that news organization not captive to the administration's favor did not at any point entertain that narrative.

thank you for that, cnn (and others).

there is obviously a wide diversity of responses across the country, but if i try to synthesize into some sort of a pattern, i find this to be a much more accurate description than the "the police only care about protecting property" narrative.

i can't believe reuters ran with that idiot story.  almost tempting to let the police beat them a bit for that one.

he probably rammed a tear gas canister into his own eye, purple apathy.

The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: June 01, 2020, 06:15:27 PM »
a great country, if you can keep it.

not good.

garrett haake (good dude) gets hit by a police projectile (he later said he thought it was a bean bag or something, not one of the rubber bullets). this is kind of a funny clip, but i've seen a couple of photos on twitter of people who have apparently lost an eye or lost vision in an eye from rubber bullets.

this is fascinating.

i've been pretty outspoken about copying asian countries that have very successfully limited cov2 spread.  however, if this immunity, possibly from an undescribed coronavirus circulating in humans, is more widespread in asia, then methods used there may be less effective elsewhere.

as counters to that speculation - there was widespread spread of, and mortality from, cov2 in wuhan.  eastern european countries have also been pretty successful with "asian" style interventions.

regardless of policy implications, this is pretty cool.

Essentially Flyertalk / Re: How Many Credit Cards Do You Have?
« on: May 31, 2020, 03:48:25 PM »
maybe i shouldn't have closed my csr.

Splitting the Matt Hall stuff out, mocking journalists for covering the police going after journalists doesn't show what you think it does.

Journalists have covered war zones with more safety than is being provided on city streets in America. These tough guy cops can't even be as restrained as third world dictators.  The CNN thing should have gotten even more coverage. Knowing what the MPD knew about what is going on in the city and in this country, they couldn't even be bothered to let two black journalists do their job, when there were white media members all over the rough ridin' place. How many black members of the press do you think those cops saw that day, in comparison to the white media members. It wasn't some coincidence that those two guys were the ones arrested.

The media are the only things providing the checks to the cops causing havoc and destruction. God knows the districts attorney won't rough ridin' do anything about these abusive cops. All we have are cameras and potential shame from being exposed.

completely agree.  the media can slip into unattractive navel gazing at times, but it is vital that they cover these events (and everything else).  it is a huge deal that law enforcement, broadly speaking, appears to be targeting them and preventing or impeding their ability to observe and communicate the events to the public.

The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The riot thread
« on: May 30, 2020, 08:44:18 PM »
interesting thread.

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