Post by: pissclams on March 24, 2023, 05:15:16 PM
https://ukathletics.com/sports/mbball/roster/player/sahvir-wheeler/
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2023, 11:12:54 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 26, 2023, 11:15:12 AM
it would be great to have a guy with his experience in the locker room for the young cat rj jones (certified beast)
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2023, 11:19:09 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 26, 2023, 11:21:23 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 26, 2023, 11:22:31 AM
Post by: catastrophe on March 26, 2023, 11:51:13 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 26, 2023, 12:12:16 PM
Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Post by: Pete on March 26, 2023, 12:57:15 PM
Yeah, a hard ass Hoskins type under sized effective down low scorer from a small school would be nice.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Post by: Mr Bread on March 26, 2023, 02:15:46 PM
Post by: steaksdime on March 26, 2023, 05:30:11 PM
Is there like a Portal master list somewhere?https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/top/basketball/2023/ (https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/top/basketball/2023/)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 26, 2023, 07:24:51 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2023, 08:15:08 PM
This is about three days old and already dated. The PG from Delaware whose dad played in the NBA sounds interesting. Doesn't include PG Kerr Kriisa from Arizona, who is probably to guy in the portal right now. I see KU going after him big time.
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2023, 08:29:24 PM
Yeah, a hard ass Hoskins type under sized effective down low scorer from a small school would be nice.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Yeah, need some bruisers. Guys like Mark Vital come to mind.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 26, 2023, 08:38:32 PM
Yeah, a hard ass Hoskins type under sized effective down low scorer from a small school would be nice.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Yeah, need some bruisers. Guys like Mark Vital come to mind.
Lampkin, if Tang is convinced he won't be a disruptive head case.
Really, I trust Tang to know what he has in Dai Dai, RJ, Rich, Manning, Finister, Colbert and thatjuco 6-7 guard who redshirted, as well as Tomlin, N'Guessant, Carter and Ish. But it does seem we need rebounding and scoring. Would lave to get transfer PG, SF and inside help but only have room for 2 of those spots as it now stands.
Post by: puniraptor on March 26, 2023, 08:40:00 PM
Post by: nicname on March 26, 2023, 08:59:14 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 12:00:26 AM
Are we thinking that everyone who has eligibility left will be back next season or should we anticipate some Frank'ings in the off season?
We'll see, but I doubt it. They didn't do that at Baylor and if you take Tang for his word development and camaraderie are hallmarks of his program, they certainly were at Baylor. I don't even know who would be good candidates to leave. Tykei? He has a COVID year left. Ish was non-committal when asked after the game. Dorian's mother was adamant on twitter that they love the program and he's coming back. N'Guessan and Cam aren't going anywhere.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 12:02:32 AM
Yeah, a hard ass Hoskins type under sized effective down low scorer from a small school would be nice.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Yeah, need some bruisers. Guys like Mark Vital come to mind.
Lampkin, if Tang is convinced he won't be a disruptive head case.
Really, I trust Tang to know what he has in Dai Dai, RJ, Rich, Manning, Finister, Colbert and thatjuco 6-7 guard who redshirted, as well as Tomlin, N'Guessant, Carter and Ish. But it does seem we need rebounding and scoring. Would lave to get transfer PG, SF and inside help but only have room for 2 of those spots as it now stands.
I know he's talked about how much he likes Lampkin but he doesn't suit how his bigs played this year. Doesn't mean he won't take him, but Lampkin isn't a rim runner and definitely can't switch on screens.
Post by: nicname on March 27, 2023, 01:01:27 AM
https://www.on3.com/db/omar-stanley-94082/
Post by: Mr Bread on March 27, 2023, 02:23:21 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ranking-college-basketballs-best-transfers-for-2022-23-top-25-players-who-used-the-portal-to-find-a-new-team/
This is about three days old and already dated. The PG from Delaware whose dad played in the NBA sounds interesting. Doesn't include PG Kerr Kriisa from Arizona, who is probably to guy in the portal right now. I see KU going after him big time.
I don't see how they sell that with Harris still there. Unless he wanted to play off the ball, which seems unlikely because he's not been much of a scorer. Leave Arizona to play a reduced role at KU? Of course money talks, still tho.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 10:41:34 AM
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2023, 10:48:01 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 11:00:56 AM
dude there’s nothing about arizona that you like
That's not true at all, I like Tommy Lloyd. I like Oumar Ballo. My dislike of Courtney Ramey is from his UT days, I just don't think he's very good. Kerr is kind of a punk.
Post by: KCFDcat on March 27, 2023, 01:30:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 01:47:03 PM
Have seen a few tweets connecting us to a player or 2 from Georgetown. Would take
I don't think that record can solely be placed on Ewing, that being said, they have 3 guys on their roster who were blue chip recruits
Dikembe's son, 4 star recruit
https://guhoyas.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/ryan-mutombo/13377
Top 150 recruit guard from Long Island. Won a state championship, we know Tang loves that.
https://guhoyas.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jordan-riley/13378
Four star guard from New Jersey, didn't play much
https://guhoyas.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/denver-anglin/13995
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 27, 2023, 03:08:07 PM
Would love a 7 foot tall Russian, America's next top Vlad if you will.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 27, 2023, 03:18:25 PM
Does Olga Firsova have any offspring who play baskethoops?Would love a 7 foot tall Russian, America's next top Vlad if you will.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 27, 2023, 03:57:28 PM
Would love a 7 foot tall Russian, America's next top Vlad if you will.Tomlin can be a relied upon post scorer. I have faith. However, I would like us to land a proven post scorer via the portal.
He's a wing, we need a banger. Rumblings are that Colbert has been good in practice, we'll see.
Pass
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 27, 2023, 05:47:19 PM
Post by: KanSt43 on March 27, 2023, 06:20:52 PM
Their Caleb Love #1 spot landing is with Tang and company?
Post by: nicname on March 27, 2023, 06:24:03 PM
https://fansided.com/2023/03/27/caleb-love-transfer-rumors-3-destinations-st-johns-indiana-kansas-state/amp/3/
Their Caleb Love #1 spot landing is with Tang and company?
Joy and Love!
https://twitter.com/caleb2love/status/1640444486957277202
Post by: nicname on March 27, 2023, 06:25:38 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 27, 2023, 06:47:45 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on March 27, 2023, 07:08:48 PM
Is there any chance of Keyontae coming back for another year?
Never say never, but no.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 27, 2023, 09:29:54 PM
Post by: kstater on March 27, 2023, 09:50:08 PM
Is there any chance of Keyontae coming back for another year?I would imagine it'd have to be a pretty large check. I'd throw in $100
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Post by: Stevesie60 on March 28, 2023, 12:34:56 AM
Rumblings of Ryan Mutombo, 7-1 Georgetown soph, may be headed our way. Yes, son of that Mutombo.
Define "rumblings"
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2023, 07:34:39 AM
Rumblings of Ryan Mutombo, 7-1 Georgetown soph, may be headed our way. Yes, son of that Mutombo.
Define "rumblings"
:impatient:
Post by: Hurricane Cat on March 28, 2023, 01:33:34 PM
Rumblings of Ryan Mutombo, 7-1 Georgetown soph, may be headed our way. Yes, son of that Mutombo.
I'm all in on this. No idea on Ryan Mutombo's talent; simply would love to buy my son a K-State Mutombo jersey!
Post by: KanSt43 on March 28, 2023, 01:44:08 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on March 28, 2023, 01:45:40 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 28, 2023, 07:34:44 PM
the last time I was super excited for a really tall guy wasJason BennettFreddy Asprilla :buh-bye:
Post by: stunted on March 29, 2023, 01:56:23 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 29, 2023, 08:45:54 AM
Post by: OB_Won on March 29, 2023, 12:48:16 PM
any sec player of the years available?The good news is we finally have a desirable coaching staff that players want to play for. So, if there are any we'll be in the running.
Post by: kstater on March 29, 2023, 12:50:07 PM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 29, 2023, 12:51:23 PM
Ish?
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Gone
Post by: Cire on March 29, 2023, 12:57:44 PM
Post by: Cire on March 29, 2023, 12:58:30 PM
Rim Protector
Wing?
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2023, 12:58:45 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2023, 01:16:59 PM
Ish?
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Gone
Huge bummer
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2023, 01:17:50 PM
:frown:Ish?
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Gone
Huge bummer
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 29, 2023, 01:25:23 PM
Post by: williamthewildcat on March 29, 2023, 01:25:42 PM
Post by: joda on March 29, 2023, 01:39:03 PM
Post by: schreds21 on March 29, 2023, 01:39:55 PM
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Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 29, 2023, 02:25:55 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2023, 02:28:21 PM
Post by: chum1 on March 29, 2023, 02:40:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU7dYc8XQAMVF77?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: star seed 7 on March 29, 2023, 02:44:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 29, 2023, 03:06:17 PM
Rumors of possibly Anthony as well. 4 open spots.
I had to legit look up who Anthony is
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2023, 04:08:11 PM
I can't believe this never popped into my head until just now.My kids reminded me of this a few weeks ago. That is a really fun book.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU7dYc8XQAMVF77?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 29, 2023, 05:07:24 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 29, 2023, 05:50:25 PM
Post by: catastrophe on March 29, 2023, 05:55:48 PM
My hunch is that there are multiple " incoming dudes" on the radar which helped him make his decision.It’s a good theory considering it’s exactly what happened last time.
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 29, 2023, 06:07:57 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 29, 2023, 09:30:49 PM
My hunch is that there are multiple " incoming dudes" on the radar which helped him make his decision.I'll bet Taj Manning owned hi in practice the last six months, and he knew Rich was coming as well as other dudes who would kick his soft ass off the floor.
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2023, 05:09:47 PM
Post by: schreds21 on March 30, 2023, 05:57:40 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 30, 2023, 06:39:52 PM
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2023, 08:27:00 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 03, 2023, 03:19:43 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 03, 2023, 03:24:49 PM
Cryer seems like a slam dunk to be a Cat, right?
my first thought for sure
Post by: OK_Cat on April 03, 2023, 03:27:25 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2023, 03:38:14 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 03, 2023, 03:39:29 PM
Post by: Winters on April 03, 2023, 04:13:37 PM
That's the word on these itk streets. #nuggies:Wha:
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2023, 05:02:40 PM
Post by: Pete on April 03, 2023, 09:55:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2023, 12:04:49 AM
Post by: chum1 on April 04, 2023, 12:08:40 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 04, 2023, 12:13:29 AM
Tang did say that he wants two super experienced guards.:excited:
Post by: Cire on April 04, 2023, 08:03:33 AM
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Post by: Stevesie60 on April 04, 2023, 07:11:45 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2023, 07:19:05 PM
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2023, 09:06:00 PM
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2023, 09:13:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2023, 09:21:15 PM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 05, 2023, 01:29:31 AM
Need big 10 basketball enthusiast Mr Bread to weigh in this Indiana kid.
They didn't care that he left, and they're not looking very good next season unless they make major waves in the portal. Never developed. He wasn't expected to be more than a minor rotation guy this season. You never know though. I imagine Tang is far more likely to get more out of a kid that needs inspired than Mike Woodson.
Post by: 8manpick on April 05, 2023, 06:37:33 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2023, 07:03:32 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 05, 2023, 08:07:31 AM
Cryer, Bates, and Carter in a 3 guard lineup makes me tingly down below
That would be a lineup I'd love to see go into the tourny with
Post by: Mr Bread on April 05, 2023, 08:49:24 AM
Watched Bates play probably 60 games the last two years… he is a baller. No fear player. Good scorer, weird fit on Indiana with TJD gobbling up so much of the offense and always being in the post and Hood-Schifino was very ball-dominant too. He found himself as the third guard behind Galloway because he didn’t defend as well and IU didn’t need the scoring. I think he would be a much better fit with us.
:sdeek: Are you a hoosier fan?
Yeah, seems clear Woodson wasn't a big fan. If Johnson hadn't gotten hurt, Bates would have largely been an afterthought.
Post by: Tobias on April 05, 2023, 09:44:06 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2023, 09:49:55 AM
Post by: Pete on April 05, 2023, 09:51:32 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 05, 2023, 09:54:49 AM
Post by: Pete on April 05, 2023, 09:55:46 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2023, 09:56:25 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 05, 2023, 10:01:21 AM
Jfc what is happening
The rich getting richer.
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2023, 10:02:40 AM
“Sure coach I’m in.”
Post by: Mr Bread on April 05, 2023, 10:18:03 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 05, 2023, 10:19:17 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 05, 2023, 10:23:15 AM
I would be 100% fine with the majority of our roster being 1 or 2 year mercenaries from now on. Let's not waste time developing, let's just throw some guys together and see if it sticks.
Tang's current mentality seems to be "why not both"
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2023, 10:32:35 AM
I would be 100% fine with the majority of our roster being 1 or 2 year mercenaries from now on. Let's not waste time developing, let's just throw some guys together and see if it sticks.
Tang's current mentality seems to be "why not both"
Yea RJ, Dai Dai, Carter, Cryer, and Bates all on the same roster. Old, young and Medium Old all thrown in together.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 05, 2023, 11:21:33 AM
The latest itk smoke on the Illinois board is that Tyger Campbell is going to be leaving UCLA.
He has eligibility left? Jesus Christ. I swear to God that both he and Caleb Grill are on year 7
Post by: LickNeckey on April 05, 2023, 02:40:15 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 05, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2023, 03:31:52 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on April 05, 2023, 03:32:59 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2023, 03:33:42 PM
hearing Abmas may be in play...
At this point it appears anyone with NCAA eligibility left might be in play
Post by: ChiComCat on April 05, 2023, 03:34:03 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2023, 03:34:28 PM
Liu Tang
Tang Tsung.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 05, 2023, 03:49:05 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 05, 2023, 03:57:18 PM
Liu Tang
Tang Tsung.
Tang Chung
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 05, 2023, 04:11:24 PM
Any chance we can show a few more of our guys the door and take all these elite guards?
Hell, Baylor had like 6 guards that could put up 20 on any given night their natty year.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 05, 2023, 04:46:11 PM
We need an EMAWality gif when we get a commit
yes, including Jareem briefly popping up on the screen saying TOASTYYYY!!!
Post by: kim carnes on April 05, 2023, 10:44:47 PM
Post by: _33 on April 06, 2023, 08:16:37 AM
Post by: catastrophe on April 06, 2023, 09:35:52 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 06, 2023, 09:36:55 AM
How much PG did Cryer play at Baylor?
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 06, 2023, 09:37:23 AM
Well, 3 of the guys mentioned are top 10 transfers on the market. Why don't you like them?Because that’s the brand and sticking to it
Post by: WildcatNation on April 06, 2023, 01:53:35 PM
Post by: steaksdime on April 06, 2023, 03:20:51 PM
Post by: kim carnes on April 06, 2023, 03:30:21 PM
Post by: _33 on April 06, 2023, 05:47:18 PM
How many of uconn’s regulars were transfers?
1 starter and 2 of the 3 key guys off the bench.
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2023, 09:01:24 PM
Post by: nicname on April 06, 2023, 09:34:56 PM
chemistry is important, the staff has to get it right
This staff is a bunch of master chemists
Post by: mocat on April 07, 2023, 06:30:31 AM
Can’t be a DITR if you’re just a diamond.
lol
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 08, 2023, 01:11:14 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2023, 01:12:05 PM
Sprinkle left Montana St to take Utah St job. Wonder what Battle's plans are? NBA or portal?
I'd tell you, but they're classified.
Post by: Pete on April 08, 2023, 02:21:24 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 08, 2023, 02:32:07 PM
You know what they say about battle plans once they make contact with Tang.
Just love 'em up?
Post by: nicname on April 08, 2023, 04:03:29 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 09, 2023, 11:56:45 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2023, 12:05:26 PM
Spracne violating gE's NDA (no dadjoke agreement). Also Battle has already transferred once so he'll have to sit out a year unless he gets a waiver.
Everyone gets a waiver
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2023, 01:57:16 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 09, 2023, 03:00:02 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2023, 04:47:54 PM
Post by: Pete on April 09, 2023, 05:41:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2023, 07:11:23 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2023, 07:41:19 PM
he'll have to sit out a year unless he gets a waiver.
:ROFL:
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2023, 07:49:05 PM
Post by: KITNfury on April 10, 2023, 08:48:25 AM
lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 10, 2023, 12:20:26 PM
Remember those days when there were free wins on the Big 12 schedule every year with Colorado, Nebraska, old TCU and old Baylor? Those days are gone.lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 10, 2023, 01:11:08 PM
Remember those days when there were free wins on the Big 12 schedule every year with Colorado, Nebraska, old TCU and old Baylor? Those days are gone.lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
It's better without the free wins.
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2023, 01:15:33 PM
Remember those days when there were free wins on the Big 12 schedule every year with Colorado, Nebraska, old TCU and old Baylor? Those days are gone.lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
It's better without the free wins.
Every game being an opportunity for a quad 1 win is an amazing benefit to playing in this league. I hope it continues in perpetuity.
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 10, 2023, 01:16:11 PM
Remember those days when there were free wins on the Big 12 schedule every year with Colorado, Nebraska, old TCU and old Baylor? Those days are gone.lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
All 14 of next years teams finished this season in the mid-60's or better in rating systems.
I know rosters can turnover completely these days, but good lord it's going to be another grinder next season.
I probably missed it, but have they said how we'll go about playing the 13 teams in basketball conference play, yet?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2023, 02:38:58 PM
Remember those days when there were free wins on the Big 12 schedule every year with Colorado, Nebraska, old TCU and old Baylor? Those days are gone.lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
All 14 of next years teams finished this season in the mid-60's or better in rating systems.
I know rosters can turnover completely these days, but good lord it's going to be another grinder next season.
I probably missed it, but have they said how we'll go about playing the 13 teams in basketball conference play, yet?
It's going to be random, next year, like in football. I'm sure rivals will play twice but otherwise there will be no pattern, rhyme, or reason.
The bigger conversation is whether we'll play a 20 or 18 game conference season. I'd hope they have told the schools by now, but it hasn't been announced yet.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 10, 2023, 03:06:24 PM
Remember those days when there were free wins on the Big 12 schedule every year with Colorado, Nebraska, old TCU and old Baylor? Those days are gone.lol:shakesfist:
Thread needs renamed to "Portal Kombat" TM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1645133986568581120?t=0CDGeZybFc-agfmIYeVIug&s=19
It's better without the free wins.
For sure, we were the free wins the last few years....
Post by: KITNfury on April 10, 2023, 03:40:47 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 10, 2023, 04:02:29 PM
You sumbitches either missed the point or lack the outrage I desired.
Tough to get upset about pop culture stealing goEMAW vernacular or we'd be outraged 24/7/365.
Post by: KITNfury on April 10, 2023, 04:09:36 PM
Fair pointYou sumbitches either missed the point or lack the outrage I desired.
Tough to get upset about pop culture stealing goEMAW vernacular or we'd be outraged 24/7/365.
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2023, 04:10:53 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2023, 04:15:19 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 10, 2023, 04:22:36 PM
Can Fran claim he’s from New York if he’s from Newark?
Yes, if he just jumbles the pronunciation on purpose.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 10, 2023, 05:05:51 PM
Can Fran claim he’s from New York if he’s from Newark?
the hudson river is less than a mile across, but culturally it might as well be an ocean
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2023, 05:34:28 PM
Post by: sys on April 10, 2023, 07:32:00 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2023, 07:32:45 PM
I’m sure he practically lived at Rucker Park so it’s all goodwhere else in nyc is there to play basketball? probably no where short of sneaking into msg would be my guess.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2023, 08:11:29 PM
a twenty game season would be amazing.
The big 12 and the SEC were the only power 6 conferences that didn't do it. Obvious why the Big 12 didn't, one can only conclude the SEC didn't because they're pussies.
Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2023, 08:45:28 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on April 10, 2023, 08:46:33 PM
a twenty game season would be amazing.
The big 12 and the SEC were the only power 6 conferences that didn't do it. Obvious why the Big 12 didn't, one can only conclude the SEC didn't because they're pussies.
Yep, only logical conclusion! :thumbsup:
Post by: Mr Bread on April 10, 2023, 10:00:30 PM
Post by: 8manpick on April 11, 2023, 11:11:51 AM
Watched Bates play probably 60 games the last two years… he is a baller. No fear player. Good scorer, weird fit on Indiana with TJD gobbling up so much of the offense and always being in the post and Hood-Schifino was very ball-dominant too. He found himself as the third guard behind Galloway because he didn’t defend as well and IU didn’t need the scoring. I think he would be a much better fit with us.
:sdeek: Are you a hoosier fan?
Yeah, seems clear Woodson wasn't a big fan. If Johnson hadn't gotten hurt, Bates would have largely been an afterthought.
By marriage, yes. I attended 4 IU basketball games and 1 football game this year...
Post by: CHONGS on April 14, 2023, 12:35:27 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 14, 2023, 12:36:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2023, 12:37:17 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 14, 2023, 01:23:47 PM
How did Oral Roberts get a 5-star in the first place? Or is that a "transfer rating"?
definitely transfer
Post by: stunted on April 15, 2023, 01:32:16 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2023, 06:30:29 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2023, 06:47:42 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 15, 2023, 02:47:27 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2023, 05:25:09 PM
PORTALITY
Post by: nicname on April 15, 2023, 05:54:35 PM
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Post by: Pete on April 15, 2023, 06:26:10 PM
Post by: Cire on April 15, 2023, 07:25:38 PM
Big that can run
Wing
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Post by: Shooter Jones on April 16, 2023, 09:46:11 AM
Can some hero summarize our portal pursuits?
It appears they’re going after 2 guards, with one being somewhat of a true point and the other being a long combo, or 2 combos. Not 100% sure the direction they want to go on the offensive end after a year with Nowell.
And then an athletic 5 that can pick and roll, rim run, etc.
Rumors there may be 4 spots open to fill w/ the portal, though.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 16, 2023, 12:35:14 PM
Post by: _33 on April 16, 2023, 12:58:28 PM
Can some hero summarize our portal pursuits?
It appears they’re going after 2 guards, with one being somewhat of a true point and the other being a long combo, or 2 combos. Not 100% sure the direction they want to go on the offensive end after a year with Nowell.
And then an athletic 5 that can pick and roll, rim run, etc.
Rumors there may be 4 spots open to fill w/ the portal, though.
Colbert, NGuessan, Tomlin are all rim running, athletic bigs. Don't we have more of a need for a big bodied rebounder?
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2023, 01:02:29 PM
Post by: _33 on April 16, 2023, 01:06:35 PM
Colbert played 0 minutes last year, can’t expect him to come light the world on fire in 2023.
Obviously. But what does that have to do with what I said?
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2023, 01:13:17 PM
Colbert played 0 minutes last year, can’t expect him to come light the world on fire in 2023.
Obviously. But what does that have to do with what I said?
He’s the only real big on your list. Probably need another one.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 16, 2023, 08:03:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 16, 2023, 09:04:31 PM
Post by: CNS on April 16, 2023, 09:40:09 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2023, 10:01:07 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 16, 2023, 10:32:54 PM
https://twitter.com/maxabmas/status/1647284739416416256?s=61&t=kHH-k8anwIfPUMhwWRaDiA
PORTALITY
From the outside, short visit that got off to a rough start with travel issues. Really hope Tang pulled off something great here.
Post by: Mr Bread on April 17, 2023, 03:54:08 AM
https://twitter.com/tiptonedits/status/1645220672761745408
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1647663125959696385
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 17, 2023, 10:11:14 PM
Abmas and Estrada… get Sisse and we’re even better next year?
Well Estrada is not looking good.
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2023, 10:15:20 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2023, 10:30:21 PM
Hard to argue with a neurosurgeon
i’d say it’s impossible to but he would probably invent a robot that puts together incredibly skilled arguments which ultimately put himself, the neurosurgeon, into checkmate
Post by: Mr Bread on April 18, 2023, 05:23:34 AM
Abmas and Estrada… get Sisse and we’re even better next year?
Well Estrada is not looking good.
Alabama. NIL they say. Not that ksu couldn't, but wouldn't for him. Said he got told to go to bama. Tang must feel pretty good about Abmas or somebody else if so.
Post by: 'taterblast on April 18, 2023, 09:02:48 AM
Said he got told to go to bama.
:surprised:
link?
Post by: Cire on April 18, 2023, 09:10:00 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 18, 2023, 09:58:58 AM
Has Estrada cancelled his visit to MHK in 2 days?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 18, 2023, 02:45:34 PM
Abmas and Estrada… get Sisse and we’re even better next year?
Well Estrada is not looking good.
Alabama. NIL they say. Not that ksu couldn't, but wouldn't for him. Said he got told to go to bama. Tang must feel pretty good about Abmas or somebody else if so.
Yeah, I'm not sure we're getting either. This is the second cycle that Tang has refused to get in a bidding war for a transfer. I think it's safe to say that he's not looking for someone who is holding out for top dollar. This is going to be Estrada's 4th school, no shade and I hope he gets his, but it's clear, for better or worse, Tang isn't going to negotiate dollar figures with these guys.
Post by: WildcatNation on April 18, 2023, 06:08:56 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 18, 2023, 06:24:51 PM
If we don’t get either, that would suuck, though.
Post by: CNS on April 18, 2023, 06:29:13 PM
Bill hiked the ball to a running back. Seems like this might be worth a shot. The basketball Wildcat. Let's just take them all.
Maybe having every single good PG in the entire nation would starve all other teams, then those teams would fail due to no ability to handle the ball.
We should look in to this.
Post by: KanSt43 on April 18, 2023, 07:52:14 PM
Post by: Tobias on April 19, 2023, 12:45:38 PM
Yeah, rumors about Anthony Thomas and apparently he wasn't at the team crawfish boil yesterday, whatever that's worth.
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1648743969788919821
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2023, 12:49:09 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 19, 2023, 12:50:35 PM
Would be amazing to get Abmas and Perry, then I'd like to see maybe Jaylon Tyson and an athletic 5 (Sisse the only option?)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 19, 2023, 01:17:28 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2023, 01:26:19 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 19, 2023, 01:46:34 PM
Julian Phillips - 6'7 SF @ Tennessee - 5 Star, #15 overall recruit in class of 22
Tarris Reed - 6'10 Center @ Michigan - 4 Star, #35 overall recruit in class of 22
Felix Okpara - 6'11 Center @ Ohio State - 4 Star, #74 overall recruit in class of 22
Don't think the bigs fit what Tang wants to do, but you take Phillips the second he showed interest.
Post by: KanSt43 on April 19, 2023, 02:13:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 19, 2023, 02:18:37 PM
Are we 1000% sure Keyontae isn't coming back....? Heard nothing from anyone about him one way or another.
Nope. He hasn't announced his intention yet and the entry deadline is on Sunday
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2023, 02:22:52 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 19, 2023, 05:00:31 PM
Seems like we’re trending up on both Abmas and Perry right now, I just don’t see anyway we take both.
If we don’t get either, that would suuck, though.
Appears down to us and Texas for Abmas. Probably depends on how the Texas visit goes. They prob have the upper hand having the last visit.
Post by: nicname on April 19, 2023, 05:54:01 PM
Are we 1000% sure Keyontae isn't coming back....? Heard nothing from anyone about him one way or another.
Nope. He hasn't announced his intention yet and the entry deadline is on Sunday
Key would feast as the true go-to guy. Need shooters around him tho.
Post by: _33 on April 19, 2023, 09:33:31 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2023, 09:41:30 PM
Garth is being extremely cringey on Twitter. It’s hard to watch.He’s extraordinarily old, it’s just how old people are
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 19, 2023, 10:55:32 PM
Kind of interesting that he hasn’t entered his name yet
Am I reading too much into this tweet or is the word "together" doing some real heavy lifting here?
https://twitter.com/WildcatNIL/status/1648672205192982529
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2023, 08:17:25 AM
Post by: doom on April 20, 2023, 08:50:37 AM
The 60 day window to enter the portal doesn’t close until May 11th so we have a ways to go before the known entities are final anyway. Agree they likely won’t fill all 4 spots very soon.
Tang has even said a lot of the best players who will be in the portal will be there late.
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2023, 09:07:10 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 20, 2023, 09:52:34 AM
Kind of interesting that he hasn’t entered his name yet
Am I reading too much into this tweet or is the word "together" doing some real heavy lifting here?
https://twitter.com/WildcatNIL/status/1648672205192982529
I want so hard to hope he comes back. But as a senior it is my understanding he does not have to declare, so probably not worth reading into
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 20, 2023, 09:56:48 AM
Post by: KITNfury on April 20, 2023, 10:12:01 AM
How much could he improve his draft stock if he stayed another year and showed progress?I always felt like his ball handling could use some improvement, but otherwise.....
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2023, 10:21:19 AM
How much could he improve his draft stock if he stayed another year and showed progress?
None, maybe negative amounts. He’s like 30 years old and the things counting against him he can’t do anything about.
Post by: Skipper44 on April 20, 2023, 10:29:14 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2023, 10:41:44 AM
i believe KJ is more valuable to KSU than any other league in the USA and would hope we could put a NIL deal together that makes that so. However he is probably at least a mid six figure guy overseas and i don't know if we have that kind of bag.
I haven’t been able to find a mock that doesn’t have him going in the second round of the draft.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 20, 2023, 11:49:26 AM
How much could he improve his draft stock if he stayed another year and showed progress?
None, maybe negative amounts. He’s like 30 years old and the things counting against him he can’t do anything about.
I think it's very close to none. If he came back and had a good year her can absolutely improve his stock. His age, currently 22, isn't as much of a favor because he doesn't have those years of wear and tear. What things do you think he can't do anything about? He absolutely has an NBA body, he's not going to get bodied by any small forward in the league not named LeBron James.
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2023, 12:21:32 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 20, 2023, 01:17:37 PM
https://twitter.com/sportsinkansas/status/1649087760181993473?s=20
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2023, 02:44:37 PM
How much could he improve his draft stock if he stayed another year and showed progress?
None, maybe negative amounts. He’s like 30 years old and the things counting against him he can’t do anything about.
I think it's very close to none. If he came back and had a good year her can absolutely improve his stock. His age, currently 22, isn't as much of a favor because he doesn't have those years of wear and tear. What things do you think he can't do anything about? He absolutely has an NBA body, he's not going to get bodied by any small forward in the league not named LeBron James.
He’s not quick enough or has good enough handles to be a small forward and he’s a couple inches too short to be a true PF. He turns 23 before the draft and would be older than the average player on last years youngest NBA squad. I think he’s gotta go now, but it does intrigue me he hasn’t officially entered yet. I think he would get a waiver if it’s what he wants.
Post by: muqluk on April 20, 2023, 04:47:12 PM
i believe KJ is more valuable to KSU than any other league in the USA and would hope we could put a NIL deal together that makes that so. However he is probably at least a mid six figure guy overseas and i don't know if we have that kind of bag.
I haven’t been able to find a mock that doesn’t have him going in the second round of the draft.
Forgive me here - I know basketballs are round and usually orange and that’s about the extent of what I know about bouncy-hoops but isn’t the 2nd round analagous to 6th/7th round in football?
Post by: Skipper44 on April 20, 2023, 05:27:03 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 20, 2023, 06:07:20 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2023, 06:15:19 PM
https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/05/10/in-the-money-second-round-picks-cash-in-guaranteed-contracts-at-exceedingly-high-rates (https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/05/10/in-the-money-second-round-picks-cash-in-guaranteed-contracts-at-exceedingly-high-rates)
Post by: Hurricane Cat on April 20, 2023, 09:51:03 PM
Kind of interesting that he hasn’t entered his name yet
Am I reading too much into this tweet or is the word "together" doing some real heavy lifting here?
https://twitter.com/WildcatNIL/status/1648672205192982529
I think that wording is because Nowell has an upcoming solo signing event in KC . . . :dunno:
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2023, 07:00:15 AM
I think Keyontae would make the NBA roster for most teams. He’s physically pretty ready. I could see him as a first rounder for a playoff team with solid second unit minutes.
Agreed
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2023, 07:03:19 AM
Post by: Mr Bread on April 23, 2023, 07:58:21 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 23, 2023, 08:03:56 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2023, 02:33:31 AM
Are we 1000% sure Keyontae isn't coming back....? Heard nothing from anyone about him one way or another.Still not sure, I guess
https://twitter.com/Keyontae/status/1650254452614393858
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2023, 09:34:50 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 24, 2023, 05:36:27 PM
Garth is being extremely cringey on Twitter. It’s hard to watch.He’s extraordinarily old, it’s just how old people are
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It’s so damn uncomfortable.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2023, 08:37:16 AM
https://twitter.com/TimarPerry/status/1650726272753111041
Abmas, not looking as good.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 25, 2023, 09:50:02 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 26, 2023, 08:30:03 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on April 26, 2023, 08:34:56 AM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on April 26, 2023, 12:03:49 PM
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2023, 02:29:22 PM
Steve Dave should kick Garth's ass (in honor of Ernie).
I irl have a picture of he and I doing a side bro hug at a KSU hoops game that like 15 people on this board attended with me. but that's certainly not going to stop me from whipping his ass at statuetown.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 26, 2023, 02:30:47 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2023, 05:21:44 PM
https://twitter.com/TimarPerry/status/1651270760080584704
Post by: Pete on April 26, 2023, 06:21:59 PM
rough ridin' hell. Are we trying to build a basketball team or a modeling agency? No shade to Frank's adorable cats but my God we are building the greatest collection of beautiful humans the world has ever seen.And this guy is good.
https://twitter.com/TimarPerry/status/1651270760080584704
C USA player of the year, shot 41% from three, and averaged 17 a game, and led North Texas to an NIT championship.
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2023, 06:42:51 PM
Post by: stunted on April 27, 2023, 03:57:12 AM
Post by: Pete on April 27, 2023, 07:48:28 AM
Are we recruiting anyone over 6’2”?Your mom.
Also, watch out or KK might end up as your step dad.
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 27, 2023, 12:36:53 PM
rough ridin' hell. Are we trying to build a basketball team or a modeling agency? No shade to Frank's adorable cats but my God we are building the greatest collection of beautiful humans the world has ever seen.And this guy is good.
https://twitter.com/TimarPerry/status/1651270760080584704
C USA player of the year, shot 41% from three, and averaged 17 a game, and led North Texas to an NIT championship.
Don't forget he led the best JUCO in the Jayhawk conference, the Coffeyville Fighting Red Ravens to a National Championship as well.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 27, 2023, 07:13:39 PM
https://twitter.com/maxabmas/status/1651738072478826498
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2023, 07:38:35 PM
Post by: doom on April 27, 2023, 08:04:29 PM
There is some smoke about KJ coming back and Tylor Perry is ours.
Do not play with my emotions.
Post by: doom on April 27, 2023, 08:05:09 PM
welp
https://twitter.com/maxabmas/status/1651738072478826498
Team cancer anyway. I heard ORU pushed him out for being super fat.
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2023, 08:08:35 PM
There is some smoke about KJ coming back and Tylor Perry is ours.
Do not play with my emotions.
Don’t flip the drafting table on the messenger
Post by: stunted on April 28, 2023, 07:24:39 AM
Post by: stunted on April 28, 2023, 07:25:30 AM
welp
https://twitter.com/maxabmas/status/1651738072478826498
another swing and a miss
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2023, 08:20:15 AM
trying to get KJ to come back is not having what's best for his future in mind, and is an extremely selfish move by our coaches. there isn't much more he can do to increase his stock, and probably will be valued less because of age. he's projected high 2nd round, he should go. unless he can get a nijel-like nil deal somewhere, that's the only thing that makes sense.
I haven't seen any indication the coaches are trying to get him back but yeah it's probably best for him to go
Post by: OK_Cat on April 28, 2023, 08:53:46 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2023, 08:55:22 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 28, 2023, 09:01:12 AM
Only have to wait five more days to know who it is
Perry wasn't supposed to announce till May 2, so that's about right
Post by: Tobias on April 28, 2023, 09:20:56 AM
Only have to wait five more days to know who it is
lmao
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 28, 2023, 09:30:11 AM
trying to get KJ to come back is not having what's best for his future in mind, and is an extremely selfish move by our coaches. there isn't much more he can do to increase his stock, and probably will be valued less because of age. he's projected high 2nd round, he should go. unless he can get a nijel-like nil deal somewhere, that's the only thing that makes sense.
I disagree with this. There is a chance for him to improve plus make about = money than he would being a mid to late 2nd round draft pick. He has plenty of reason to stay. KJ had some raw moments last year that he can clean up and possibly get himself into 1st round which would be a much bigger payday.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 28, 2023, 09:35:03 AM
Post by: Cire on April 28, 2023, 09:43:16 AM
Keyontae could potentially make more at KSU than as a G-leaguer next year.
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2023, 09:53:45 AM
1. Guard(Tylor Perry)
2. Guard(TBD)
3. Wing (re recruit KJ)
4. Big ( TBD)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 28, 2023, 10:23:04 AM
4 spots to fill
1. Guard(Tylor Perry)
2. Guard(TBD)
3. Wing (re recruit KJ)
4. Big ( TBD)
If they get KJ to come back, I'm not sure how much harder they will hit the portal. There will be a lot of contributors on the roster (they are pretty high on Colbert and Manning), and I'm doubtful Tang will redshirt two top 150 dudes. He may redshirt Rich.
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2023, 11:05:02 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2023, 11:07:49 AM
who is a current nba player that you guys see in keyontae. just curiousGrant Williams immediately comes to mind
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2023, 11:18:15 AM
i think if he’s slotted into the 2nd half of the 2nd round then maybe stay and polish out the rough edges? idk, don’t care. probably just go get paid, trust yourself to make it regardless of draft status.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 28, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2023, 12:45:46 PM
that’s a good comparisonWould he be better served polishing those edges on a 2-way contract? Probably, but I don't know exactly how the math works out
i think if he’s slotted into the 2nd half of the 2nd round then maybe stay and polish out the rough edges? idk, don’t care. probably just go get paid, trust yourself to make it regardless of draft status.
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2023, 01:05:27 PM
Post by: Cire on April 28, 2023, 01:47:45 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2023, 02:54:53 PM
it's not hard to see a kid making 6-7 figures of NIL money staying around another year sheeshIt's hard for me to see that happening with Keyontae. At least high 6/low 7 figures. That's a lot of tshirts and autograph sessions.
Post by: Cire on April 28, 2023, 03:04:43 PM
it's not hard to see a kid making 6-7 figures of NIL money staying around another year sheeshIt's hard for me to see that happening with Keyontae. At least high 6/low 7 figures. That's a lot of tshirts and autograph sessions.
true, maybe I'm giving ksu too much credit there.
Post by: stunted on April 28, 2023, 04:22:46 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2023, 04:27:12 PM
I think that's more about Keyontae and the reality of the NLI landscape than it is about KSU failing. I don't think he'd get that much anywhere. But I could be wrong!it's not hard to see a kid making 6-7 figures of NIL money staying around another year sheeshIt's hard for me to see that happening with Keyontae. At least high 6/low 7 figures. That's a lot of tshirts and autograph sessions.
true, maybe I'm giving ksu too much credit there.
Post by: doom on April 28, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2023, 11:04:17 AM
I would have to think any serious consideration to return would be accompanied by a 7 figure NIL deal
7 figures would guarantee his return, he's not going to make close to 7 figures as a professional basketball player next year. G league salaries are less than $50,000, 2 way players make $500,000.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 29, 2023, 12:45:59 PM
I don't think there's any doubt he could get 7 figures somewhere.I would have to think any serious consideration to return would be accompanied by a 7 figure NIL deal
7 figures would guarantee his return, he's not going to make close to 7 figures as a professional basketball player next year. G league salaries are less than $50,000, 2 way players make $500,000.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2023, 01:30:32 PM
I don't think there's any doubt he could get 7 figures somewhere.I would have to think any serious consideration to return would be accompanied by a 7 figure NIL deal
7 figures would guarantee his return, he's not going to make close to 7 figures as a professional basketball player next year. G league salaries are less than $50,000, 2 way players make $500,000.
Uh, there's lots of doubt about that, like infinite amounts of doubt. Are you counting the figures after the decimal?
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 29, 2023, 01:51:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2023, 03:00:32 PM
Whereas you think you know it all, you tell me what's the going rate for third team All-Americans? Considering some of the numbers I've seen thrown around, I would guess a cool million might be ballpark.
The numbers you've seen thrown around are inaccurate and gassed up by people trying to push an agenda. Curry Sexton and others running collectives have been on record plenty stating this and frankly it's common sense. If you think a third team all American is making more on nil than NBA players are with salary I don't know what to tell you.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 29, 2023, 04:47:22 PM
Post by: Pete on April 29, 2023, 05:36:16 PM
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
Post by: MakeItRain on April 29, 2023, 06:34:23 PM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
Post by: Pete on April 29, 2023, 07:59:23 PM
I don’t completely disagree with you. I just think if he actually re-entered the portal and put it out to bid, he’d get the $1M.I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 30, 2023, 03:19:38 PM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
Post by: _33 on April 30, 2023, 04:33:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2023, 10:20:42 AM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
If you think that Keyontae Johnson or any other transfer could get 7 figures on a nil deal, I'm not going to convince you otherwise. However, I'll point out that the $400,000 a year deal that you mentioned that Pack, a consensus top 5 transfer a year ago, got is the largest single confirmed nil deal for any college athlete in any college sport. You are proposing that a third team all american could get 150% more than that.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-nijel-packs-lucrative-nil-deal-pays-dividends-sets-up-for-teams-to-copy-miamis-strategy/
Post by: ChiComCat on May 01, 2023, 10:47:59 AM
I think Perry will commit monday. there was a teaser this morning on his twitter about "dudes."
I think he already announced a decision day of tomorrow (Tuesday). Although I'm guessing the staff already knows.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 01, 2023, 11:57:48 AM
Being among the top choices for top transfers all the time is pretty neat.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1652853390869659648?s=20
Sorry if luke’d
Not a transfer. 2023 recruit who was committed to Texas. He played with David Castillo is the U17 World Cup team last summer. Hoping that gives us a really good chance. Would also be a major FU to Texas for stealing Abmas.
Post by: Spracne on May 01, 2023, 12:01:47 PM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
If you think that Keyontae Johnson or any other transfer could get 7 figures on a nil deal, I'm not going to convince you otherwise. However, I'll point out that the $400,000 a year deal that you mentioned that Pack, a consensus top 5 transfer a year ago, got is the largest single confirmed nil deal for any college athlete in any college sport. You are proposing that a third team all american could get 150% more than that.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-nijel-packs-lucrative-nil-deal-pays-dividends-sets-up-for-teams-to-copy-miamis-strategy/
I never know what to believe when these NIL numbers get thrown around, but the RUMOR (again, not confirmed) is that KU was offering (not KU directly, of course) essentially $2MM/yr. to Hunter Dickinson.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 01, 2023, 12:39:44 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 01, 2023, 02:35:04 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 01, 2023, 09:38:49 PM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
If you think that Keyontae Johnson or any other transfer could get 7 figures on a nil deal, I'm not going to convince you otherwise. However, I'll point out that the $400,000 a year deal that you mentioned that Pack, a consensus top 5 transfer a year ago, got is the largest single confirmed nil deal for any college athlete in any college sport. You are proposing that a third team all american could get 150% more than that.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-nijel-packs-lucrative-nil-deal-pays-dividends-sets-up-for-teams-to-copy-miamis-strategy/
I never know what to believe when these NIL numbers get thrown around, but the RUMOR (again, not confirmed) is that KU was offering (not KU directly, of course) essentially $2MM/yr. to Hunter Dickinson.
There's a reason these numbers never get confirmed despite it being in the best interests of the people making the offer to do so. John Ruiz was so public because he was sending a message. It's interesting that we know of every school offering all the walk ons $20,000 or every school giving all their offensive linemen $25,000 but no one can get any of these mega deals confirmed. The two most talked about 7 figure deals, Quinn Ewers and Jaden Rashada, actually 8 figures, both had deals that were completely fabricated.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on May 02, 2023, 07:06:10 AM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
If you think that Keyontae Johnson or any other transfer could get 7 figures on a nil deal, I'm not going to convince you otherwise. However, I'll point out that the $400,000 a year deal that you mentioned that Pack, a consensus top 5 transfer a year ago, got is the largest single confirmed nil deal for any college athlete in any college sport. You are proposing that a third team all american could get 150% more than that.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-nijel-packs-lucrative-nil-deal-pays-dividends-sets-up-for-teams-to-copy-miamis-strategy/
Are these deals exclusive deals? I always figured that since the collectives are just legal pay-to-play deals they were favorable contracts for the players and they could go sign other deals too. I envision these deals like the old work for a booster but never show up deals of the past. Like, can Pak go sign another $25K deal with Scuzzy Car Dealership of Miami or whatnot?
Post by: MakeItRain on May 02, 2023, 09:03:45 AM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
If you think that Keyontae Johnson or any other transfer could get 7 figures on a nil deal, I'm not going to convince you otherwise. However, I'll point out that the $400,000 a year deal that you mentioned that Pack, a consensus top 5 transfer a year ago, got is the largest single confirmed nil deal for any college athlete in any college sport. You are proposing that a third team all american could get 150% more than that.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-nijel-packs-lucrative-nil-deal-pays-dividends-sets-up-for-teams-to-copy-miamis-strategy/
Are these deals exclusive deals? I always figured that since the collectives are just legal pay-to-play deals they were favorable contracts for the players and they could go sign other deals too. I envision these deals like the old work for a booster but never show up deals of the past. Like, can Pak go sign another $25K deal with Scuzzy Car Dealership of Miami or whatnot?
They're definitely not exclusive but we also don't seem to be at the point where athletes, specifically men's athletes are putting together endorsement packages. The only men's athlete I can think of that had a significant endorsement packages was Bryce Young with Dr. Pepper, Nissan, Beats by Dre, and a few others. Even with that Saban said young was "approaching seven figures." Women's athletes are getting a lot more of these multi package enforcement deals, but they aren't getting close to seven figures. Angel Reese and Olivia Dunn might be at seven figures or close to it but that comes from their social media engagement and it's gonna be real hard for a men's college athlete to get that.
Post by: doom on May 02, 2023, 08:35:05 PM
We got perry. :bwpopcorn: :doom:
Post by: Spracne on May 02, 2023, 08:40:46 PM
Post by: TheTastyGreek on May 02, 2023, 08:44:13 PM
We got perry. :bwpopcorn: :doom:
He's good.
Congrats.
Post by: doom on May 02, 2023, 08:44:59 PM
Post by: doom on May 02, 2023, 08:46:01 PM
We got perry. :bwpopcorn: :doom:
He's good.
Congrats.
Sorry to steal your bro, but also if you get more top shelf bros, send us those bros, k?
Post by: wetwillie on May 02, 2023, 08:47:51 PM
Post by: TheTastyGreek on May 02, 2023, 09:05:31 PM
We got perry. :bwpopcorn: :doom:
He's good.
Congrats.
Sorry to steal your bro, but also if you get more top shelf bros, send us those bros, k?
Gotta let 'em go when they wanna make bad choices for themselves.
Coach wants to celebrate a 6th place Big 12 conference finish by taking his team out to Applebee's, only to crash into a runaway tumbleweed or some tweaker driving his Toyota Tundra on the wrong side of a sandblasted farm-to-market road, and Transfer Portal his way from Hell on Earth to literal Hell?
Well... Good luck, Grant. Or Greg, Geoff, whatever his name was. Have fun in Amarillo's septic tank. Hope you get out before your wife leaves you, or child protective services takes your kids away for abuse, given that you're making them live in Lubbock now.
As for Perry? If he wants to trade God's most magnificent shade of green for some off-brand polyester Barney cosplay outfit instead? If he wants to leave the program that won college basketball's TRUE national championship (pre-shot clock and integration era) for some other tournament's also-ran? If he'd rather leave Texas's premiere basketball school for the 3rd proudest basketball institution in Kansas?
Well, good luck to him, I suppose. And to you fellows, of course. Strong contenders for my second-favorite college fandom on the internet. Enjoy our sloppy seconds, as we'll just move on to some newer, more supple and loyal teen instead.
[Seriously... Good kid, good player. Hope he does well for you guys.]
Post by: Pete on May 02, 2023, 09:26:04 PM
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Post by: EMAWzifried on May 02, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
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Post by: doom on May 03, 2023, 08:04:37 AM
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 03, 2023, 08:17:29 AM
Post by: doom on May 03, 2023, 08:20:15 AM
Some 5 star dude, hard to keep track of so many dudes at once.
For sure, but since our dudes are certified, I want names. If they commit elsewhere, we can just pull a KU and pretend we wanted someone else instead.
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2023, 08:30:48 AM
Post by: Winters on May 03, 2023, 09:30:12 AM
Thank you, TTG!We got perry. :bwpopcorn: :doom:
He's good.
Congrats.
Post by: deputy dawg on May 03, 2023, 09:30:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvKrYORWIAElDL1?format=jpg&name=large)
We got perry. :bwpopcorn: :doom:
He played at Coffeyville Community College, where he helped win a national title. Most people don't realize how many times Kansas jucos have won national championships. KU East (JCCC) has won a couple in the past 20 years.
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2023, 09:42:47 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 03, 2023, 12:48:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2023, 01:06:53 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 03, 2023, 02:16:20 PM
Still another week for kids to enter name in portal. Lots of names still not known.Are we expecting anyone else from the current Cat roster to leave? Does this depend on what dudes are found in the portal?
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2023, 03:01:22 PM
Post by: stunted on May 03, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 04, 2023, 12:04:21 AM
Meanwhile, Oscar is still a losery dork with no coach job on the horizon in total disbelief of Tang's ability to recruit to Manhattan.
Post by: stunted on May 04, 2023, 01:32:28 AM
not surprising from the worst fans in the world
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 04, 2023, 02:46:21 AM
The days of constant whining and excuse making now seem as remote as the Dark Ages, which they were for anyone longing for entertaining and imaginative hoops in Manhattan. The losery dire woe-is-me drumbeat has been so thankfully replaced by a confident staff willing to make bold promises of success and conceding the advantage to no one. I'm irreligious as a stone, but for this new and fresh atmosphere I shout "Praise be."
Post by: stunted on May 04, 2023, 05:32:09 AM
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2023, 06:28:46 AM
Post by: Cire on May 04, 2023, 09:30:16 AM
"we didn't want him anyways"
not surprising from the worst fans in the world
I wanted him. Also happy with the North Texas guy.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2023, 09:33:18 AM
Hunter Dickinson to KU. gross
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2023, 09:59:37 AM
Hunter Dickinson to KU. gross
Supposedly fp, tc, etc.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1654144956762660866
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 04, 2023, 11:22:17 AM
yeah everyone wanted him.Great, Self is preparing to unleash yet another monster big on the Big XII.
Hunter Dickinson to KU. gross
Post by: ChiComCat on May 04, 2023, 11:41:11 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 04, 2023, 12:18:25 PM
Abmas just said on Field of 68, at 39 min in, that one of the reasons he chose Texas was because him and his parents looked at "factors after basketball". Whatever that means I guess.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1654144956762660866
It was only about money. His family wanted him at K-State until the NIL numbers came into play w/ UT and at the same time Cats U knew we had Perry, so we backed off. Abmas sucked crap when he actually had to play against decent competition this year.
Also, cheers to @deputy dawg for dropping some Kansas D2 JUCO knowledge on your heads.
Post by: wetwillie on May 04, 2023, 12:25:03 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 04, 2023, 03:40:10 PM
Jalen Wilson came back, why can't Keyontae
Keyontae could potentially make more at KSU than as a G-leaguer next year.
Jalen Wilson has always been an interesting player.
He played in 100+ KU games and get this, had 2 dunks... TOTAL. For a 6'8 wing, he has a below the rim game but has NBA skills, it will be interesting to see how he transitions and how he's guarded. Has he ever been a projected 1st rounder through the years?
As for Keyontae, I had a whole bit typed out on him... but I'll just say I want him to do what makes him genuinely happy and I'll be good with it, even more so if either decision leads to him getting into a 1st round spot with the $3.5m-ish minimum guarantee.
Post by: stunted on May 04, 2023, 05:03:50 PM
:Ughhh:
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2023, 05:05:55 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 04, 2023, 05:20:00 PM
Post by: stunted on May 04, 2023, 05:37:11 PM
Key is gonna come back IMO
Selfish to wish for someone’s failure bro
Post by: 8manpick on May 04, 2023, 05:37:57 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 04, 2023, 07:24:52 PM
so our best transfer really is going to be a 5'10" volume scoring shooting guardIt's of absolutely no conseunce that you don't remember how effective sharpshooing PGs Jared Butler and Davion Mitchell were in Baylor's national championship run, but true K-State fans can find assurance that Tang surely does.
:Ughhh:
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 04, 2023, 09:04:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 04, 2023, 11:39:14 PM
Desi just posted he's entering the NBA draft. I thought he had already used all the eligibility possible, including COVID, and this was his final year no matter what. So we could potentially get Keyontae AND Desi back?!?!
Nope, he's done. He played 3 full seasons at Arkansas, one at Arkansas State, one at K-State.
Post by: stunted on May 05, 2023, 12:41:35 AM
so our best transfer really is going to be a 5'10" volume scoring shooting guardIt's of absolutely no conseunce that you don't remember how effective sharpshooing PGs Jared Butler and Davion Mitchell were in Baylor's national championship run, but true K-State fans can find assurance that Tang surely does.
:Ughhh:
I don’t follow any college basketball outside the cats. But I see they both averaged 5 assists somehow together. Better shooting splits. Also they are 6’0 and 6’3. Don’t know about Butler but I know Mitchell has a good reputation on defense at the NBA level. But looks like they both averaged 2 steals to Perry’s 1. So basically they are miles better than Perry in literally every single way. Great comparison 👍
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 05, 2023, 09:25:07 AM
I'm not sure someone knows what "volume scorer" means.
Post by: KSNimrod on May 05, 2023, 10:30:43 AM
Shooter Jones = focused on high efficiency scoring and shot %
There's something Freudian going on here but I can't quite put my finger on it?
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 05, 2023, 10:40:45 AM
Stunted = focused on 5' 10"
Shooter Jones = focused on high efficiency scoring and shot %
There's something Freudian going on here but I can't quite put my finger on it?
You're the victim of a Basketball Jones.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Basketball_Jones_single.jpg)
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2023, 11:58:01 AM
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2023, 01:51:53 PM
Desi just posted he's entering the NBA draft. I thought he had already used all the eligibility possible, including COVID, and this was his final year no matter what. So we could potentially get Keyontae AND Desi back?!?!
Nope, he's done. He played 3 full seasons at Arkansas, one at Arkansas State, one at K-State.
I wish Desi had unlimited seasons of Cat eligibility.
Post by: doom on May 05, 2023, 07:11:20 PM
Ish is a Hoya.
Post by: wiley on May 05, 2023, 07:16:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvYTjCpWAAQMZb-?format=jpg&name=large)Good for him, i hope he kills it
Ish is a Hoya.
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Post by: cfbandyman on May 05, 2023, 10:37:10 PM
Desi just posted he's entering the NBA draft. I thought he had already used all the eligibility possible, including COVID, and this was his final year no matter what. So we could potentially get Keyontae AND Desi back?!?!
Nope, he's done. He played 3 full seasons at Arkansas, one at Arkansas State, one at K-State.
I wish Desi had unlimited seasons of Cat eligibility.
He does, just not on the court
Post by: joda on May 09, 2023, 03:16:48 PM
DeJuan Gordon just committed to the 4th program of his career
Post by: dal9 on May 09, 2023, 03:35:34 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2023, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 09, 2023, 08:14:57 PM
i believe he was at NMSU, not UNM, which either "yikes" or "poor guy"
Yeah, I had no idea he was there, probably not great that he wasn't one of the player's on the record about the crap that was going on there, another fresh story released yesterday.
Post by: dal9 on May 09, 2023, 11:34:53 PM
but nor was he one of the 3 who got sued i'm pretty surei believe he was at NMSU, not UNM, which either "yikes" or "poor guy"
Yeah, I had no idea he was there, probably not great that he wasn't one of the player's on the record about the crap that was going on there, another fresh story released yesterday.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 11, 2023, 01:32:58 AM
Post by: GregKSU1027 on May 11, 2023, 10:00:28 AM
:sdeek:
Post by: _33 on May 11, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
Post by: Cire on May 11, 2023, 01:00:00 PM
Good to see Bill Self can't just slow play these McDAA's as freshmen and sophomores anymore in order to keep them under the radar and have them all 4 years.
Oh for sure, Udeh would have been a great 4th year guy for them.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 11, 2023, 07:23:54 PM
I think it's a very easy bet that if Keynote went to the portal he could get $1M
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/top-10-on3-nil-valuations-entering-mens-college-basketball-season-hunter-dickinson/
You know those dollar figures on that evaluation isn't what they're actually getting, right? Did you see who #1 is on that list? He scored 34 points this past season. How much money do you think he's getting from the Northwestern State nil collective?
The on3 nil evaluation is almost entirely about social media following, that's completely different that what someone is getting from pay-to-play.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
I can't believe that there are people who seriously think a third team all American, in any sport, can get 7 figures from a pay to play deal. The college athletes getting the most nil money are endorsers.
JFC. Stay safe in your bygone world. Pack got 400k a year ago. If Key entered the portal, he'd be one of the top five targets. Yeah someone would make the money available for a talented scorer, rebounder, solid teammate.
Quote
"The people hating on me would leave their job right now for a $10,000 increase," Dickinson said. "At Michigan, I got less than six figures. I got less than six figures at Michigan for the year."Consensus second-team All-American (2021)
Big Ten Freshman of the Year (2021)
2× First-team All-Big Ten (2021, 2023)
Big Ten All-Defensive Team (2022)
Big Ten All-Freshman Team (2021)
Second-team All-Big Ten (2022)
I'm sure we'll still hear this absolute fantasy about third team all americans being made transfer portal millionaires.
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2023, 07:31:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 11, 2023, 10:43:02 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 12, 2023, 12:29:33 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 12, 2023, 10:08:39 AM
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 12, 2023, 10:29:16 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 12, 2023, 10:38:08 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 12, 2023, 10:41:11 AM
Yea I've heard the NIL #'s fans get from recruiting outlets are pretty skewed. Not sure if Hunter is getting $2m/yr, but I would bet a Nigel Pack $400k/yr figure is realistic.
Didn't it come out that Pack's NIL deal was some MLM marketing scheme that could be worth that much if he's a good enough salesman?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 12, 2023, 10:42:53 AM
Yea I've heard the NIL #'s fans get from recruiting outlets are pretty skewed. Not sure if Hunter is getting $2m/yr, but I would bet a Nigel Pack $400k/yr figure is realistic.
Didn't it come out that Pack's NIL deal was some MLM marketing scheme that could be worth that much if he's a good enough salesman?
Maybe? I honestly have no idea. I do know that his $ amounts have been referenced quite a bit as people talk about the Hunter D. move.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 12, 2023, 10:48:14 AM
Won’t see us get a transfer wing until after that date I would imagine. Both Key and Phillips would both be in that category.
Phillips entering the portal is pretty much telling everyone he won't be entering the draft. I could see him committing somewhere before end of month (unless he is truly considering us). We should start seeing player decisions after the combine which is 15th-21st.
Post by: CNS on May 12, 2023, 10:48:56 AM
Post by: Spracne on May 12, 2023, 11:28:35 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 12, 2023, 11:48:55 AM
Won’t see us get a transfer wing until after that date I would imagine. Both Key and Phillips would both be in that category.
Phillips entering the portal is pretty much telling everyone he won't be entering the draft. I could see him committing somewhere before end of month (unless he is truly considering us). We should start seeing player decisions after the combine which is 15th-21st.
He got invited to the NBA Combine and he entered the pre draft process in April
Post by: ChiComCat on May 12, 2023, 12:16:54 PM
I thought I read that the guy who was behind Nigel’s NIL, as well as a few other athletes’, went bankrupt and the NILs disappeared?
I know the company wasn't doing well and people were talking about his NIL deals. He tweeted a couple months ago that he never missed a NIL payment in response.
Post by: CNS on May 12, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
I thought I remembered hearing that Nijel's (Christ, you guys can't even spell your own guy's name) NIL package ended up being vouchers for up to 400,000 crispy tacos from Taco Bell, if used during the duration of his Miami career.
In my defense, I stopped watching Bruceketball like 4 yrs ago.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 12, 2023, 04:03:30 PM
Yea I've heard the NIL #'s fans get from recruiting outlets are pretty skewed. Not sure if Hunter is getting $2m/yr, but I would bet a Nigel Pack $400k/yr figure is realistic.
There's no way in hell that dude is getting $2 million a year. Nijel's $400,000 a year was confirmed by he and John Ruiz. The company isn't a ponzi scheme, per se, but no one know's what John Ruiz's company LifeWallet does. The company is publicly traded and as of a couple of weeks ago, it was trading at a whole 50 cents a share.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 12, 2023, 04:06:53 PM
Dont worry. It's not your money.
lol, it's fine 'zif, I didn't expect you to walk back any of your weird and unnecessary bluster in this thread. I didn't think you would be so committed to having the last word that you would reply without having anything to say.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on May 13, 2023, 04:20:40 PM
I think players make a lot more money transferring than they do staying where they are at. Dickenson is rumored to be making a crap ton at KU.
Pretty true for all jobs in general.
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Post by: 'taterblast on May 15, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: phog
Hmmmm.... was K State staff tampering?
Post by: wetwillie on May 15, 2023, 03:06:22 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on May 15, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1658298730737696768
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 16, 2023, 08:36:50 AM
Keyontae didn't make the scrimmage roster at the draft combine. He did get measured, short with long arms.
https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1658298730737696768
do i hang on to my glimmer of hope that he might come back or nah?
Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2023, 08:59:38 AM
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Post by: Spracne on May 16, 2023, 09:10:03 AM
I don't think he's getting any taller with another year. maybe his freak arms will grow longer though? not sure when arms stop growing.
Arms are like ears. He might have a 10' wingspan when he reaches age 80.
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Post by: KCFDcat on May 17, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 17, 2023, 09:32:28 AM
Guys, I want Udeh real bad. Like, real real bad.
Duke
Post by: 'taterblast on May 17, 2023, 09:44:32 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 17, 2023, 09:50:52 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2023, 09:54:59 AM
1. Cam Carter
2. Tylor Perry
3. Mys transfer guard/wing
4. Tomlin
5. Mystranfer Big / Nguessan
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 17, 2023, 11:25:18 AM
What’s our starting 5 look like next year with the 12 guys we have plus the 3 mys transfers?
1. Cam Carter
2. Tylor Perry
3. Mys transfer guard/wing
4. Tomlin
5. Mystranfer Big / Nguessan
I personally think they are happy with Colbert/N'Guessan. Colbert might be better than N'Guessan. Gotta get those wings, though. I hope Taj Manning is a stud.
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2023, 11:37:23 AM
Post by: stunted on May 17, 2023, 12:34:11 PM
What’s our starting 5 look like next year with the 12 guys we have plus the 3 mys transfers?
1. Cam Carter
2. Tylor Perry
3. Mys transfer guard/wing
4. Tomlin
5. Mystranfer Big / Nguessan
NOT LOOKING GOOD
Post by: MakeItRain on May 17, 2023, 02:34:36 PM
What’s our starting 5 look like next year with the 12 guys we have plus the 3 mys transfers?
1. Cam Carter
2. Tylor Perry
3. Mys transfer guard/wing
4. Tomlin
5. Mystranfer Big / Nguessan
I personally think they are happy with Colbert/N'Guessan. Colbert might be better than N'Guessan. Gotta get those wings, though. I hope Taj Manning is a stud.
David will start. People are putting way too much on Colbert based on 12 minutes of an exhibition game. He red shirted for a reason. He's going be a real easy scapegoat for people with unrealistic expectations.
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 17, 2023, 02:51:43 PM
I know Tang and co. have talked at length about getting old and staying old, and having 6 seniors on campus probably made them consider some class distribution and gaining a year with those in the program, even more so than if they could've contributed some minutes this year.
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2023, 03:32:33 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 17, 2023, 03:35:44 PM
Class distribution is a non factor in the current transfer environment imo.
For most places, of course. And it's too early to tell here.. but Scott Drew and from most comments, Tang, still value development and keeping guys in the program for many years.
They want guys with experience, and prefer it from within their program or getting older experience through the portal.
Post by: CNS on May 17, 2023, 03:50:43 PM
What’s our starting 5 look like next year with the 12 guys we have plus the 3 mys transfers?
1. Cam Carter
2. Tylor Perry
3. Mys transfer guard/wing
4. Tomlin
5. Mystranfer Big / Nguessan
I personally think they are happy with Colbert/N'Guessan. Colbert might be better than N'Guessan. Gotta get those wings, though. I hope Taj Manning is a stud.
David will start. People are putting way too much on Colbert based on 12 minutes of an exhibition game. He red shirted for a reason. He's going be a real easy scapegoat for people with unrealistic expectations.
I have possible unrealistic expectations, but I promise to go easy on him. He just looks very explosive, strong, physical, and aggressive. If he has some decent touch and decent feel for the flow of his teammates and the game, he could be amazing. All based on 12 min of exhibition. Purple glasses.
Post by: schreds21 on May 17, 2023, 03:58:06 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 18, 2023, 12:06:38 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 18, 2023, 12:07:49 PM
Post by: stunted on May 18, 2023, 01:32:08 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 18, 2023, 02:11:43 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 19, 2023, 03:34:47 PM
Of note, Udeh hasn't committed to Duke after his visit, yet. Would be interesting if we somehow get him on campus along with the nations leading assist PG (Yuri Collins/SLU). Think we'd know what the offense would look like in that scenario.
Post by: Spracne on May 19, 2023, 06:34:31 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on May 19, 2023, 09:58:48 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 22, 2023, 11:05:48 AM
We have zero interest in Love.
but I guess he might have interest in Cats U........
Post by: wetwillie on May 22, 2023, 11:07:45 AM
Post by: nicname on May 22, 2023, 12:06:18 PM
Define unrealistic, I think another S16 or better is realistic, but the tourny is a fickle mistress
I’m starting to believe that more often than not a 4-5 seed will be a reasonable expectation until Tang retires.
Post by: cfbandyman on May 22, 2023, 12:41:01 PM
Define unrealistic, I think another S16 or better is realistic, but the tourny is a fickle mistress
I’m starting to believe that more often than not a 4-5 seed will be a reasonable expectation until Tang retires.
That definitely seems fair. I just wanna keep the deep tourny runs going, and at some point get past the damn E8
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 23, 2023, 12:31:27 AM
We have zero interest in Love.
Of note, Udeh hasn't committed to Duke after his visit, yet. Would be interesting if we somehow get him on campus along with the nations leading assist PG (Yuri Collins/SLU). Think we'd know what the offense would look like in that scenario.
Duke is going to be a no go for Udeh, as the school's admission's office said he can't qualify due to the low academic standing of the KU diploma mill classes he took. I suppose we can get him qualified with summer classes, so good news maybe.
Post by: doom on May 23, 2023, 04:50:34 AM
We have zero interest in Love.
Of note, Udeh hasn't committed to Duke after his visit, yet. Would be interesting if we somehow get him on campus along with the nations leading assist PG (Yuri Collins/SLU). Think we'd know what the offense would look like in that scenario.
Duke is going to be a no go for Udeh, as the school's admission's office said he can't qualify due to the low academic standing of the KU diploma mill classes he took. I suppose we can get him qualified with summer classes, so good news maybe.
If he can't get into Duke, he's not getting into the Harvard of the plains.
Post by: Pete on May 23, 2023, 07:40:50 AM
Post by: Spracne on May 23, 2023, 09:24:28 AM
I very much want that guy as a ksu cat.
I want him as a hawk :frown:
Post by: Shooter Jones on May 23, 2023, 11:21:42 AM
I very much want that guy as a ksu cat.
I want him as a hawk :frown:
He might not have any other option.
Post by: wetwillie on May 23, 2023, 11:24:42 AM
Post by: Spracne on May 23, 2023, 11:33:36 AM
So Udeh got massa self’d? That’s a shame.
I don't believe so, but I'm just a spectator. It seems we wanted/needed him as depth at the 5, but he didn't want to wait around for starter minutes, since we picked up Hunter Dickinson in the portal. It's a shame, because Udeh showed flashes of his potential in his brief career at KU. I'm pretty bummed about the situation.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 23, 2023, 12:19:51 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 23, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
So Udeh got massa self’d? That’s a shame.It seems like most of his cridits ought to transfer in state, or enough we could get him eligible thru intersession and summer classes.
Post by: stunted on May 24, 2023, 06:53:21 AM
So Udeh got massa self’d? That’s a shame.
I don't believe so, but I'm just a spectator. It seems we wanted/needed him as depth at the 5, but he didn't want to wait around for starter minutes, since we picked up Hunter Dickinson in the portal. It's a shame, because Udeh showed flashes of his potential in his brief career at KU. I'm pretty bummed about the situation.
we'll never be better than ku if we keep begging for their rejects
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 24, 2023, 01:57:15 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 24, 2023, 09:35:28 PM
So Udeh got massa self’d? That’s a shame.It seems like most of his cridits ought to transfer in state, or enough we could get him eligible thru intersession and summer classes.
he should take pud classes at Ft. riley like normal cat students to bump that gpa
Post by: doom on May 25, 2023, 01:55:36 PM
Post by: KITNfury on May 26, 2023, 07:30:17 PM
No lie I'm not 100% sure I was actually supposed to graduate with my GPA being as crap as it was and wish I was told about this.So Udeh got massa self’d? That’s a shame.It seems like most of his cridits ought to transfer in state, or enough we could get him eligible thru intersession and summer classes.
he should take pud classes at Ft. riley like normal cat students to bump that gpa
Post by: doom on May 28, 2023, 04:16:38 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 29, 2023, 09:28:36 AM
https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal (https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal) Tennessee transfer Oliver Nkamhoua visiting rn. Twitter chatter from TN fans is that he's not really consistent.
Would take.
Post by: KanSt43 on May 29, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
Post by: doom on May 29, 2023, 10:59:12 AM
https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal (https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal) Tennessee transfer Oliver Nkamhoua visiting rn. Twitter chatter from TN fans is that he's not really consistent.
Would take.
Apparently, the staff would too. I'm not anti the kid, just relaying Twitter comments from UT fans.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 29, 2023, 02:00:20 PM
https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal (https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal) Tennessee transfer Oliver Nkamhoua visiting rn. Twitter chatter from TN fans is that he's not really consistent.
Would take.
Apparently, the staff would too. I'm not anti the kid, just relaying Twitter comments from UT fans.
I'm guessing it's just sour grapes if "inconsistent" is the worst they can come up with for a deserter from their program.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 29, 2023, 03:15:34 PM
Post by: Pete on May 29, 2023, 03:34:44 PM
Also after Richmond Spiders fifth-year transfer 6-7 Tyler Burton, 19 plus pts per game, 7 plus rebounds per game. Only 29.3 from 3.Sounds like David Hoskins type PF production from a SF size guy. Would take.
Post by: catastrophe on May 30, 2023, 01:12:56 AM
Consistency seems like a critique on coaching more than anything.https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal (https://www.si.com/college/tennessee/mens-basketball/olivier-nkamhoua-enters-transfer-portal) Tennessee transfer Oliver Nkamhoua visiting rn. Twitter chatter from TN fans is that he's not really consistent.
Would take.
Apparently, the staff would too. I'm not anti the kid, just relaying Twitter comments from UT fans.
I'm guessing it's just sour grapes if "inconsistent" is the worst they can come up with for a deserter from their program.
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Post by: wiley on May 31, 2023, 04:25:29 PM
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Post by: nicname on June 11, 2023, 12:50:43 PM
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Post by: pissclams on June 11, 2023, 12:53:30 PM
Post by: nicname on June 11, 2023, 12:55:21 PM
kentucky pushed hard for him and thought they had him
Maybe it’s time for them to realize who the King Cats are iyam
Post by: Kid In the Hall on June 11, 2023, 01:33:15 PM
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/kaluma-commits-to-k-state.393294/
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 11, 2023, 05:12:56 PM
Post by: Pete on June 11, 2023, 10:51:47 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on June 12, 2023, 10:23:24 AM
Some rankings have Perry and Kaluma both Top 10-20 in the portal rankings. Insane what this staff continues to do.
Would be nice to get another guard, but I already really like this roster going into the year as is.
Post by: Woogy on June 12, 2023, 10:29:38 AM
Some real gems in this thread...
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/kaluma-commits-to-k-state.393294/
"Money Talks"
"He was never coming here, we got used to run the price up again"
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2023, 10:33:13 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on June 12, 2023, 10:58:56 AM
G - Carter 6-3
F - Kaluma 6-7
F - Tomlin 6-10
F/C - N'Gaussen 6-10
That's a top 4-ish B12 starting lineup.
Will be interesting to see what development has taken place w/ Colbert and Manning. And the Freshman guards Jones/Ames will need to give quality minutes if we don't get another depth piece in the portal.
Post by: Pete on June 12, 2023, 11:19:00 AM
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2023, 12:48:38 PM
Need another guard to replace Desi now. Also probably a beybey replacement. I’m hoping RJ can be our primary reserve guard but I’m guessing they won’t chance it and will bring in some insurance.
The Kentucky crybabies in that thread are talking about how much they want Jordan Brown. I have no idea who that kid is, but we should pick him up just to go a little deeper into UK.
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2023, 01:03:58 PM
Need another guard to replace Desi now. Also probably a beybey replacement. I’m hoping RJ can be our primary reserve guard but I’m guessing they won’t chance it and will bring in some insurance.
The Kentucky crybabies in that thread are talking about how much they want Jordan Brown. I have no idea who that kid is, but we should pick him up just to go a little deeper into UK.
If he’s a guard that can handle the ball and shoot I approve of this message
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2023, 01:29:45 PM
Need another guard to replace Desi now. Also probably a beybey replacement. I’m hoping RJ can be our primary reserve guard but I’m guessing they won’t chance it and will bring in some insurance.
The Kentucky crybabies in that thread are talking about how much they want Jordan Brown. I have no idea who that kid is, but we should pick him up just to go a little deeper into UK.
If he’s a guard that can handle the ball and shoot I approve of this message
If I am reading between their crying well, he is a true center that can run and handle the ball
Post by: Spracne on June 12, 2023, 01:31:44 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on June 12, 2023, 02:31:44 PM
Some real gems in this thread...
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/kaluma-commits-to-k-state.393294/
That was a fun read. More than a few of them type like a bad stereotype of Appalachia.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 12, 2023, 04:56:50 PM
Post by: jtksu on June 12, 2023, 05:13:52 PM
While it was disappointing to miss on some early transfer targets, this is a great pickup and seems to fit well.
I've read a few articles that said Tang was waiting on certain guys that had declared for the draft to make their decision on returning to school.
Post by: Shooter Jones on June 13, 2023, 09:04:33 AM
While it was disappointing to miss on some early transfer targets, this is a great pickup and seems to fit well.
I've read a few articles that said Tang was waiting on certain guys that had declared for the draft to make their decision on returning to school.
From the sounds of it, we have plenty of NIL money to be competitive with these portal guys.
Have been told some of them we missed out on early were due to this staff refusing to get into a bidding war. Approaching with the best and a knowingly competitive offer, and if the player/player reps start an auction/highest bidder process we drop out.
So we might've simply lost out on some, and might've dropped out on some due to the staff holding strong. It's looking damn good now, but could be really frustrating to have the money to get a couple guys but whiffing on all by refusing to play the game.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 13, 2023, 01:51:15 PM
Some real gems in this thread...
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/kaluma-commits-to-k-state.393294/
Can't wait to read the posts when we sign Jordan Brown.
That was a fun read. More than a few of them type like a bad stereotype of Appalachia.
Post by: Pete on June 18, 2023, 04:34:04 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 24, 2023, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: Pete on June 24, 2023, 01:52:12 PM
RumblingsPOST THE ARTICLE, KK!
Post by: wetwillie on June 24, 2023, 02:01:38 PM
Post by: Spracne on June 24, 2023, 03:32:02 PM
Post by: Catchacold on June 24, 2023, 06:52:45 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1672752854895849472
Post by: MakeItRain on June 25, 2023, 12:13:33 PM
Post by: doom on July 01, 2023, 02:24:25 PM
Dudes alert on twitter. :cop lights:
Post by: Hurricane Cat on July 01, 2023, 04:53:22 PM
:Woot:
Post by: wetwillie on July 01, 2023, 05:25:58 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on July 01, 2023, 05:51:51 PM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on July 01, 2023, 10:26:06 PM
Did god give tang a vision that Huggins would fumble the bag? Holding two open schollies late into the off-season to snap up WVU’s players seems like divine intervention.
Crazy Faith
Post by: EMAWzifried on July 02, 2023, 12:27:56 AM
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Post by: pissclams on July 02, 2023, 11:04:40 AM
If this pans out it may be Hugs' second-best recruiting class at Kansas State.lol damn
Post by: Pete on July 02, 2023, 12:48:45 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on July 02, 2023, 01:55:20 PM
I lol’d irl
same
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 02, 2023, 09:23:09 PM
Post by: wiley on July 03, 2023, 06:57:58 AM
Wague still visiting Bama. Are we assuming the commit was from Toussaint?I don’t think so
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 03, 2023, 08:58:43 AM
Hasn't this happened one other time, where a tang signal went out only for the commitment to back out?
Post by: MakeItRain on July 03, 2023, 11:11:45 AM
Wague still visiting Bama. Are we assuming the commit was from Toussaint?
Pretty sure Toussaint went to Alabama and Wague was scheduled to visit DePaul.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on July 03, 2023, 12:14:02 PM
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Post by: doom on July 03, 2023, 01:45:41 PM
I’m going to need Austin Carpenter to tell me if business is still boomin’
He said it was! :Wha:
Post by: doom on July 03, 2023, 01:46:16 PM
Post by: porky morgan on July 03, 2023, 02:11:17 PM
Post by: wiley on July 03, 2023, 03:20:36 PM
Waggy is at Bama right now and probably will commit there. Toussaint rumblings are to announce tomorrow and most likely is a Tang Cat. He never visited Alabama.Bama upped the offer i assume?
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Post by: Houstoncat93 on July 03, 2023, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2023, 05:20:49 PM
Post by: doom on July 03, 2023, 05:48:51 PM
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1675973263896326144?t=mvuD-D4mjiaxfCaIu9oAng&s=19
Yas, gurl.
Post by: cfbandyman on July 03, 2023, 06:25:32 PM
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Post by: _33 on July 04, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
Post by: doom on July 04, 2023, 03:41:57 PM
These “we got a dude” things with no follow up are pissing me off.
I don't mind because it usually gets followup I'm pumped about
Post by: wiley on July 04, 2023, 04:26:46 PM
I think we were played….These “we got a dude” things with no follow up are pissing me off.
I don't mind because it usually gets followup I'm pumped about
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 04, 2023, 08:36:20 PM
Guessing there will still be at least one other worthy guy we can nab.
Post by: wetwillie on July 04, 2023, 09:35:30 PM
What the heck happened? I don’t follow the recruiting current events on Twitter.
Jerome Tang doesn’t negotiate with terrorists
Post by: Pete on July 05, 2023, 07:53:52 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 05, 2023, 08:38:46 AM
What the heck happened? I don’t follow the recruiting current events on Twitter.
-Touissant and Wague both high on the cats, sounds like tang had been talking to them immediately after they entered portal
-They visited MHK and loved the crap out of it, Wague committed in person to the staff, Touissant wanted to but didn't
-For Wague, it appears Bama continued to throw NIL offers his way and he was convinced (by himself, or with involvement of "handlers", who knows) to take a visit like immediately after he left MHK
-For Touissant, cats were his favorite and he wanted to commit but he had a (significantly?) higher NIL offer from Tech and chose to take it
tl;dr cats didn't match NIL offers and this received 10x more attention than it would have at any other time of the year
Post by: steve dave on July 05, 2023, 08:41:44 AM
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Post by: chum1 on July 05, 2023, 08:47:40 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on July 05, 2023, 08:53:01 AM
It received more attention because our dipshit coach thought he landed one or both and went public with it too early
also this
Post by: OB_Won on July 05, 2023, 09:01:14 AM
It was likely a lesson learned that won”t ever be repeated. Now we won’t get to hear about dudes until the ink is dry.It received more attention because our dipshit coach thought he landed one or both and went public with it too early
also this
Post by: chum1 on July 05, 2023, 09:01:41 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on July 05, 2023, 09:50:16 AM
Post by: wetwillie on July 05, 2023, 09:54:36 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on July 05, 2023, 12:04:56 PM
Post by: surly on July 05, 2023, 12:21:45 PM
perry
carter
tomlin
kaluma
n'guessan
Post by: _33 on July 05, 2023, 12:34:20 PM
Post by: Pete on July 05, 2023, 01:25:49 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 05, 2023, 02:08:48 PM
Post by: CNS on July 05, 2023, 03:13:27 PM
Alabama twitter doesn't appear to like Tang. Not sure if it's for any reason other than boredom.
It's alabama. I am assuming they are basically Texas Aggies x 1000000000 :opcat:
Post by: EMAWzifried on July 06, 2023, 04:09:55 PM
Alabama twitter doesn't appear to like Tang. Not sure if it's for any reason other than boredom.
It's alabama. I am assuming they are basically Texas Aggies x 1000000000 :opcat:
Alabama. Confident black man. What could it be?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 07, 2023, 07:52:05 AM
Post by: Pete on July 07, 2023, 08:03:20 AM
So are we getting more dudes or what ?We must be, because I haven’t seen any retraction from Tang or any apologies.
Post by: catastrophe on July 07, 2023, 11:55:19 AM
Post by: Hurricane Cat on July 07, 2023, 10:11:15 PM
If we got scholarships left, we’re getting dudes.
yep, pretty simple formula used at K-State these days :ksu:
Post by: Spracne on July 07, 2023, 10:36:09 PM
If we got scholarships left, we’re getting dudes.
yep, pretty simple formula used at K-State these days :ksu:
It's kinda hard to get dudes for the end of the bench. But it's not impossible.
Post by: wetwillie on July 08, 2023, 09:37:34 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 15, 2023, 02:38:47 PM
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1702696247277072719
Post by: wetwillie on September 15, 2023, 02:55:57 PM
Post by: Winters on September 15, 2023, 04:52:29 PM
Get mumped Kim English!Tang getting in on Mizzou hate week is delightful :emawkid:
Post by: doom on September 20, 2023, 11:08:24 AM
Get mumped Kim English!
I want all the recruits for us, but I also really like Kim English. Hope he does well.
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 05, 2024, 12:23:44 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 05, 2024, 09:14:06 AM
6-5, 180 pound freshman shooting guard Drew Steffe has left Texas Tech at the end of the fall semester. Supposed to be a good outside shooter. From Frisco, Texas, so staff ought to be familiar with him. (Speculation is he left TT because his dad got pissed someone slept with Drew's sister. Weird, like all TT stuff.) Lots of of PF offers and see him rated as 3 and 4 star. Just putting it out there.
WRT Drew's Sister...if Marco Borne gon' get it, he gon' get it.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 12, 2024, 08:52:14 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2024, 09:07:00 AM
RJ
Colbert
Cam
Dai Dai
Finister
Manning
Castillo
6 new dudes
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2024, 09:13:09 AM
I hope they have folks that help them understand that. I don't think either would have gotten meaningfully more PT anywhere else at this level this year.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 12, 2024, 09:58:37 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 12, 2024, 10:39:34 AM
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2024, 10:44:29 AM
So we are thinking that Kaluma is gone? To be a Euroballer? For an NIL payday at another school?
Yes he will go pro in some fashion. If NBA doesn't want him then Europe.
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2024, 11:40:43 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 12, 2024, 12:16:49 PM
Who is coming back to the team for next year? Cam Carter, Dai Dai, Dorian. Anyone else? Kaluma is listed as a junior but I've heard he will be gone. I would be surprised if Buddy Rich, RJ Jones, Taj Manning don't portal out based on the amount of playing time they have gotten.come on man. what a dumb comment. we may see a dude or two leave but it won’t be due to lack of playing time for true freshman.
our staff has built relationships with these players and their families. there’s nothing but minutes on the floor to be earned and it’s not like the staff is out there recruiting over any of them.
our staff develops guards, it’s what they do. transferring out solves nothing. dorian knew it and has put in the work.
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2024, 12:30:05 PM
1. Doran, Dai Dai, and Colbert to continue on the arc their improvement has taken so far
2. Portal in a PG that is seasoned, or Ques stays and plays that role
3. Portal in a big that is ready for minutes. With Will gone, we need someone that can swap time with Colbert.
4. Portal in some points. If Kaluma leaves, we have to find points. With him and TP gone, at that point, we have to find something like 1/3rd of our points out of who is left or from the portal.
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2024, 12:52:31 PM
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2024, 12:57:58 PM
That's also assuming an SEC team doesn't throw a bag at Cam. I think it's going to be an uphill climb for Tang to nail the portal this year.
Outside looking in, Cam is as bought in as anyone ever has been.
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2024, 01:19:28 PM
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2024, 01:22:26 PM
So was Kobe Savage until Oregon threw a bag of cash at him. New world out there, but I definitely hope to see Cam back next year. I would like to see DNG too but he's probably a risk as well, I could see him getting a Massoud type deal to really help someone next year.
Isn't N'Guessan out of eligibility? If not, I certainly want him and Cam back.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 12, 2024, 03:06:04 PM
The progression of Marquis and Cam with this staff has been great. I really like all the guards and small forwards currently on the roster and hope they continue to develop in the program but I'm not sure I see them developing into guys who start for a team that contends for the Big XII championship. I would be very happy to be proven wrong about all of that.Who is coming back to the team for next year? Cam Carter, Dai Dai, Dorian. Anyone else? Kaluma is listed as a junior but I've heard he will be gone. I would be surprised if Buddy Rich, RJ Jones, Taj Manning don't portal out based on the amount of playing time they have gotten.come on man. what a dumb comment. we may see a dude or two leave but it won’t be due to lack of playing time for true freshman.
our staff has built relationships with these players and their families. there’s nothing but minutes on the floor to be earned and it’s not like the staff is out there recruiting over any of them.
our staff develops guards, it’s what they do. transferring out solves nothing. dorian knew it and has put in the work.
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2024, 03:13:25 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2024, 10:00:24 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 13, 2024, 07:31:46 AM
Post by: pissclams on February 13, 2024, 10:00:22 AM
they’ll be good. i don’t know if people here understand the size of the hole TP is trying to patch by playing out of position.The progression of Marquis and Cam with this staff has been great. I really like all the guards and small forwards currently on the roster and hope they continue to develop in the program but I'm not sure I see them developing into guys who start for a team that contends for the Big XII championship. I would be very happy to be proven wrong about all of that.Who is coming back to the team for next year? Cam Carter, Dai Dai, Dorian. Anyone else? Kaluma is listed as a junior but I've heard he will be gone. I would be surprised if Buddy Rich, RJ Jones, Taj Manning don't portal out based on the amount of playing time they have gotten.come on man. what a dumb comment. we may see a dude or two leave but it won’t be due to lack of playing time for true freshman.
our staff has built relationships with these players and their families. there’s nothing but minutes on the floor to be earned and it’s not like the staff is out there recruiting over any of them.
our staff develops guards, it’s what they do. transferring out solves nothing. dorian knew it and has put in the work.
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2024, 10:12:04 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 13, 2024, 10:19:42 AM
who are some of our top true PG targets that we might have an actual shot of portalling next season so that i can start getting excited and doing a deep dive into vague twitter posts?
Post by: LickNeckey on February 13, 2024, 11:07:56 AM
is that potentially part of the reason for his usage
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2024, 12:40:17 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 13, 2024, 03:25:10 PM
Post by: Spracne on February 13, 2024, 04:54:41 PM
Finister played in six games lastr year. Rich has already played in nine. Don't know where the NCAA cutoff is.
I think it's a third. 10? Could Google, but don't care.
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2024, 05:19:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on February 13, 2024, 09:40:20 PM
Finister played in six games lastr year. Rich has already played in nine. Don't know where the NCAA cutoff is.
Dorian also didn't play any games past December 11th. Buddy isn't playing because he's down the rotation, there's no conspiracy or deep thought here. I don't understand everyone gassing him up so much, we haven't seen him do anything but dunk.
Post by: pissclams on February 13, 2024, 10:30:57 PM
you answered your own question, people love slam dunking the basketballFinister played in six games lastr year. Rich has already played in nine. Don't know where the NCAA cutoff is.
Dorian also didn't play any games past December 11th. Buddy isn't playing because he's down the rotation, there's no conspiracy or deep thought here. I don't understand everyone gassing him up so much, we haven't seen him do anything but dunk.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 14, 2024, 08:09:21 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1757582597033443414?s=20
Post by: deputy dawg on February 29, 2024, 10:08:45 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on February 29, 2024, 10:32:30 AM
I don't know if RaeQuan Battle has a good shooting % on those jump shots from beyond the arc, but he almost led West Virginia to a win against us with those. I've never seen a player shoot jump shots from beyond the arc very frequently, but Battle did it consistently and with a high % against us. Plus, he was pulling down rebounds like crazy. We need a dude like that.
He was nailing step-back fadeaway 3s consistently in that comeback. I can't imagine he's usually that good but it was an impressive showing for sure.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 29, 2024, 11:56:37 AM
_FAN was talking about this on Boscoe's Boys yesterday and basically what happens is that Battle saves all of his best games for when he is battling the Cats.I don't know if RaeQuan Battle has a good shooting % on those jump shots from beyond the arc, but he almost led West Virginia to a win against us with those. I've never seen a player shoot jump shots from beyond the arc very frequently, but Battle did it consistently and with a high % against us. Plus, he was pulling down rebounds like crazy. We need a dude like that.
He was nailing step-back fadeaway 3s consistently in that comeback. I can't imagine he's usually that good but it was an impressive showing for sure.
Post by: pissclams on February 29, 2024, 02:22:18 PM
everyone wants a piece of the E8 champs_FAN was talking about this on Boscoe's Boys yesterday and basically what happens is that Battle saves all of his best games for when he is battling the Cats.I don't know if RaeQuan Battle has a good shooting % on those jump shots from beyond the arc, but he almost led West Virginia to a win against us with those. I've never seen a player shoot jump shots from beyond the arc very frequently, but Battle did it consistently and with a high % against us. Plus, he was pulling down rebounds like crazy. We need a dude like that.
He was nailing step-back fadeaway 3s consistently in that comeback. I can't imagine he's usually that good but it was an impressive showing for sure.
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 29, 2024, 07:03:10 PM
I don't know if RaeQuan Battle has a good shooting % on those jump shots from beyond the arc, but he almost led West Virginia to a win against us with those. I've never seen a player shoot jump shots from beyond the arc very frequently, but Battle did it consistently and with a high % against us. Plus, he was pulling down rebounds like crazy. We need a dude like that.He's shooting less than 31 percent from 3 for the year.
Post by: nicname on March 20, 2024, 08:45:16 PM
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2024, 08:52:55 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 20, 2024, 09:11:20 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2024, 09:22:28 PM
Post by: Catman2 on March 20, 2024, 09:22:51 PM
Also, I see Davion Bradford is back in the portal, trying to find a few more NIL cents.
Post by: pissclams on March 20, 2024, 10:35:08 PM
You guys won't believe this but there is a 6'4 shooting guard with great athleticism in the portal named Marcus Fosterwe’re good at the 2, nothx
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2024, 10:52:57 AM
Can MF2.0 handle the ball without turning over 3-5 times a game?You guys won't believe this but there is a 6'4 shooting guard with great athleticism in the portal named Marcus Fosterwe’re good at the 2, nothx
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 12:16:37 PM
You guys won't believe this but there is a 6'4 shooting guard with great athleticism in the portal named Marcus Fosterwe’re good at the 2, nothx
I'm curious who you think is our 2 guard
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2024, 12:21:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 12:39:59 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 12:44:40 PM
essentially everyone on our roster not named jerrell colbert (and DNG if he comes back).You guys won't believe this but there is a 6'4 shooting guard with great athleticism in the portal named Marcus Fosterwe’re good at the 2, nothx
I'm curious who you think is our 2 guard
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 01:01:05 PM
RJ is our 2 unless we have a super secret plan I am unaware of. I think a good 2 is one of our top 2 priorities in the portal.is this a bit that you’re doing?
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 21, 2024, 01:13:08 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 21, 2024, 01:14:27 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 21, 2024, 01:14:49 PM
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 21, 2024, 01:16:34 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 21, 2024, 01:20:38 PM
Kids: where did Cam Carter go?
Me: he left in the portal
Kids: when he could have stayed and been a KSU Wildcat for another season?
Me: ..... umm, yeah, no... uh....
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 01:27:19 PM
more than rumors, he is gonesurprised to hear
love cam the dude, hopefully he finds what he’s looking for- i’m guessing this is a move to get closer to louisiana?
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 01:37:50 PM
RJ is our 2 unless we have a super secret plan I am unaware of. I think a good 2 is one of our top 2 priorities in the portal.is this a bit that you’re doing?
I was going to ask you the same thing.
Post by: CNS on March 21, 2024, 02:07:09 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 02:16:25 PM
i can assure you that I take no solace in mocking your bbiq. maybe you just think the 2’s on this roster are incapable of playing in this league?RJ is our 2 unless we have a super secret plan I am unaware of. I think a good 2 is one of our top 2 priorities in the portal.is this a bit that you’re doing?
I was going to ask you the same thing.
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 02:28:06 PM
I am pretty old and pretty removed from having actually played basketball, but when I played the 2 was a shooting guard. So, if that is still accurate, it is 100% a high priority for us.PG and 4, highest priority and impossible to be anything else based on today’s roster.
RJ D2 should both be playing their minutes at the 2 next year and finister as well.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 21, 2024, 02:47:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 21, 2024, 03:01:18 PM
more than rumors, he is gone
meh, it is what it is. He needed a reduced role anyway, him playing 36 minutes a game is crazy
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 03:06:35 PM
i can assure you that I take no solace in mocking your bbiq. maybe you just think the 2’s on this roster are incapable of playing in this league?RJ is our 2 unless we have a super secret plan I am unaware of. I think a good 2 is one of our top 2 priorities in the portal.is this a bit that you’re doing?
I was going to ask you the same thing.
The only person on the roster that resembles a 2 is RJ and he got less than 10 minutes a game on an NIT squad.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 21, 2024, 04:22:07 PM
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 05:33:02 PM
so the rest of our guards are point guards? that’s something to consider, I guess.i can assure you that I take no solace in mocking your bbiq. maybe you just think the 2’s on this roster are incapable of playing in this league?RJ is our 2 unless we have a super secret plan I am unaware of. I think a good 2 is one of our top 2 priorities in the portal.is this a bit that you’re doing?
I was going to ask you the same thing.
The only person on the roster that resembles a 2 is RJ and he got less than 10 minutes a game on an NIT squad.
D2 is a PG, but not ready for the minutes
the other guards, including TP, were two’s attempting to play the one. i guess that you could say they’re “shoot first point guards”, but even that’s a giant stretch.
this is all my jmo of course but arguing the difference between who’s a one versus a two is really just noise.
whatever you want to call it, we need someone who can handle the ball pressure and run the offense. TP was not that guy in any way. he is a catch and shoot dude, as are the rest of them. any of our guys can chuck the ball up at a good enough pace when and if they’re fed the ball in the offense.
it’s hard for me to believe that anyone who watched this team this season would conclude that we what we need most is anything but a point guard, but different strokes
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 05:58:57 PM
Colbert-not a 2 guard
Buddy- not a 2 guard
DNG - not a 2 guard
RJ- 2 guard
Finister- Wing? Can't shoot beyond 5 feet so not sure.
Castillo- PG
Glover - PG
Taj - Forward
Looks like we are all set at the shooting guard spot :lol:
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 21, 2024, 06:22:28 PM
Colbert-not a 2 guard
Buddy- not a 2 guard
DNG - not a 2 guard
RJ- 2 guard
Finister- Wing? Can't shoot beyond 5 feet so not sure.
Castillo- PG
Glover - PG
Taj - Forward
Looks like we are all set at the shooting guard spot :lol:
Finister is a very good shooter from 0 feet and by that I mean MONSTER DONKS
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 06:22:59 PM
i was thinking glover was done.
Colbert-not a 2 guard
Buddy- not a 2 guard
DNG - not a 2 guard
RJ- 2 guard
Finister- Wing? Can't shoot beyond 5 feet so not sure.
Castillo- PG
Glover - PG
Taj - Forward
Looks like we are all set at the shooting guard spot :lol:
sounds like we’re set at pg, such a relief.
Post by: pissclams on March 21, 2024, 06:51:53 PM
since most 1’s can play the two, but most two’s can’t play the one, this logic is solid AF.
this type of hard hitting take is why I paid the big bucks to join goemaws founders club
Post by: Spracne on March 21, 2024, 07:06:05 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 21, 2024, 07:07:53 PM
Clams- looks like you idiots think we don't need a pg lmao
Post by: Skipper44 on March 21, 2024, 07:09:05 PM
a power guard
Post by: chum1 on March 21, 2024, 08:37:11 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2024, 10:34:41 AM
Any reason you left pg Dai Dai from this list?
Colbert-not a 2 guard
Buddy- not a 2 guard
DNG - not a 2 guard
RJ- 2 guard
Finister- Wing? Can't shoot beyond 5 feet so not sure.
Castillo- PG
Glover - PG
Taj - Forward
Looks like we are all set at the shooting guard spot :lol:
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 22, 2024, 12:41:35 PM
https://twitter.com/TravisBranham_/status/1771230137364680766?s=20
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2024, 12:44:58 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 22, 2024, 05:39:10 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 22, 2024, 09:52:16 PM
If DNG stays as well, I will be at a 6.5/7.
My opinion should mean a lot to everyone here, that's why I wanted to let you all know where I stood.
Post by: Pete on March 22, 2024, 10:04:58 PM
If the 3 true freshman stay I will be at a 6/7 for next year's roster.
If DNG stays as well, I will be at a 6.5/7.
My opinion should mean a lot to everyone here, that's why I wanted to let you all know where I stood.
Yes, goes without saying.
Post by: meow meow on March 23, 2024, 09:48:55 AM
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2024, 11:46:14 AM
if it went without saying he wouldn't have said it :th_twocents:It was a coaching moment.
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2024, 03:34:15 PM
Post by: Winters on March 25, 2024, 01:48:44 PM
If the 3 true freshman stay I will be at a 6/7 for next year's roster.Thank you
If DNG stays as well, I will be at a 6.5/7.
My opinion should mean a lot to everyone here, that's why I wanted to let you all know where I stood.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 25, 2024, 02:38:47 PM
Which players already on the roster can be developed into starters for a team that wins games in the NCAAs?
Would you sad if "developmental big" was never again brought onto the roster?
Post by: OB_Won on March 25, 2024, 03:31:17 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2024, 05:48:25 PM
Perry
McNair
Carter
Finister
Ghost of Tomlin
IN
Castillo
If Kaluma comes back we can take 4 more. If he doesn't come back we can take 5.
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2024, 05:59:13 PM
OUT
Perry
McNair
Carter
Finister
Ghost of Tomlin
IN
Castillo
If Kaluma comes back we can take 4 more. If he doesn't come back we can take 5.
Is Castillo our only incoming frosh we have signed?
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2024, 06:04:58 PM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2024, 06:14:19 PM
Yep. Dug McDaniel and Vasean Allette seem to be who we are hot and heavy with right now.
"McDaniel led the 8-24 Wolverines with 16.3 points and 4.7 assists per game but was academically suspended for road games for much of the second half of the season." This seems like Linton bait.
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2024, 06:53:58 PM
Post by: CNS on March 25, 2024, 07:29:50 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on March 26, 2024, 10:22:01 AM
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2024, 03:09:28 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 27, 2024, 03:10:35 PM
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Post by: OB_Won on March 27, 2024, 04:05:33 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2024, 05:38:25 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 27, 2024, 06:39:01 PM
Sounds like we are one of 5 places Zele Mayo, from South Dakota State, is look in at. Avg 18ppg last season and was player of the year in his conf as a guard.
KU apparently is in on him, too.
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2024, 06:45:23 PM
Post by: Spracne on March 27, 2024, 06:50:28 PM
What is the KU sitch spracs? I assume they won't bring back Dickinson and are losing two to the draft. I think Harris is out of eligibility too right? Doesn't seem like there is much left to carry forward to next year except maybe Elmarko.
Harris is coming back. Dickinson is a question mark, but I suspect he'll be back. KJ Adams is back. Most of our known losses aren't substantial (minus McCullar). We just need to improve across the board. I don't know much about the incoming freshmen, but they rarely contribute in Self's system.
Post by: Winters on March 28, 2024, 08:43:41 AM
The rumblings suggest we aren't challenged by cash on hand at the momentCan confirm
Post by: cfbandyman on March 28, 2024, 10:18:30 AM
The rumblings suggest we aren't challenged by cash on hand at the momentCan confirm
Maybe need the dax symbol on this, but seeing our NIL numbers (well members) trying to get to 500, like how strong are we realistically in the NIL space? I know the official NIL is not anything to base it all on, as some donor is always willing to toss money around. But anyone with a pulse on how we are overall? I'd imagine the answer is "perfectly average" but genuinely curious.
I was/am hoping with the facilities push nearing the end the money can now be turned to NIL and coaches contracts.
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2024, 10:51:17 AM
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2024, 11:02:06 AM
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Post by: Spracne on March 28, 2024, 12:24:18 PM
Who is BMD?
It really depends on how bountiful the harvest is this year.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 28, 2024, 12:39:50 PM
Have you seen beef prices recently!Who is BMD?
It really depends on how bountiful the harvest is this year.
Post by: Spracne on March 28, 2024, 12:46:20 PM
Have you seen beef prices recently!Who is BMD?
It really depends on how bountiful the harvest is this year.
Not really, but I'll take your word for it.
Post by: farming_cat fan on March 28, 2024, 01:06:11 PM
:kstategrad:Have you seen beef prices recently!Who is BMD?
It really depends on how bountiful the harvest is this year.
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2024, 01:28:27 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2024, 01:48:01 PM
where was this money last portal season?
Tang and Klieman have both stated that they changed their view on nil the last year. They both have been more publicly vocal about the need to have funds. Before I think both of them, and Gene, thought the coaches could land players without significant dedicated money.
Post by: LickNeckey on March 28, 2024, 03:31:30 PM
free for all
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2024, 07:07:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2024, 08:14:58 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on March 29, 2024, 11:54:40 AM
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2024, 12:09:41 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 29, 2024, 12:19:19 PM
I mean 99% of teams are done playing now right?
But of that 1% any dudes that are planning to export could be very valuable targets for other teams looking to import
Post by: yoga-like_abana on March 29, 2024, 12:26:29 PM
now that standard operating procedure is to pay players, does cheating = not paying players?YES
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2024, 03:38:17 PM
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2024, 03:51:09 PM
https://bvmsports.com/2024/03/29/jason-edwards-enters-transfer-portal-5-possible-landing-spots/5/ (https://bvmsports.com/2024/03/29/jason-edwards-enters-transfer-portal-5-possible-landing-spots/5/)
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2024, 03:51:34 PM
siap, Cam to LSU is official.
Good for cam. Good team and close to home.
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2024, 03:55:55 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 30, 2024, 12:13:38 AM
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/michigan-wolverines-transfer-tarris-reed-visiting-kansas-state-wildcats/
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 30, 2024, 02:01:57 AM
Michigan's Tarris Reed visiting. Top 40 player out of hs 2 years ago.
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/michigan-wolverines-transfer-tarris-reed-visiting-kansas-state-wildcats/
We may actually have a shot, played HS at Link prep MO.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 31, 2024, 07:48:22 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on March 31, 2024, 10:09:34 AM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 31, 2024, 12:18:58 PM
rumblings that terms have been agreed upon for his return
I really hope so. If he can add about 10-15 pounds of muscle and play consistantly with that aggressive style he's capable of, he can be great.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 31, 2024, 12:26:44 PM
rumblings that terms have been agreed upon for his returnhow big of a bag does it take to keep DNG at KSU?
Post by: CNS on March 31, 2024, 12:49:03 PM
Post by: nicname on March 31, 2024, 01:42:13 PM
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2024, 03:07:13 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2024, 03:27:47 PM
rumblings that terms have been agreed upon for his return
I really hope so. If he can add about 10-15 pounds of muscle and play consistantly with that aggressive style he's capable of, he can be great.
Absolutely not going to happen, he isn't 19 years old. He doesn't need that anyway.
Post by: pissclams on March 31, 2024, 03:30:29 PM
Get your penises out https://www.on3.com/db/dug-mcdaniel-39315/ (https://www.on3.com/db/dug-mcdaniel-39315/)oh noes, a point guard!! :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2024, 04:20:57 PM
Get your penises out https://www.on3.com/db/dug-mcdaniel-39315/ (https://www.on3.com/db/dug-mcdaniel-39315/)That would be dong out worthy
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on March 31, 2024, 04:52:57 PM
Get your penises out https://www.on3.com/db/dug-mcdaniel-39315/ (https://www.on3.com/db/dug-mcdaniel-39315/)That would be dong out worthy
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#tug4dug
Post by: 'taterblast on April 01, 2024, 09:43:33 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 01, 2024, 10:50:58 AM
that slightly conflicts with what I was just told
but who knows
Post by: Winters on April 01, 2024, 11:03:39 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 01, 2024, 11:06:41 AM
Dug :Chirp:
Would
Post by: CNS on April 01, 2024, 11:20:28 AM
Colbert's gone per trilly donovan
If true, I would hope that points to us getting the Michigan center. would still want to keep colbert though.
Post by: CNS on April 01, 2024, 06:33:35 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2024, 07:03:39 PM
Post by: catastrophe on April 01, 2024, 07:46:22 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2024, 10:46:14 AM
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1775179746600485241?s=20
Post by: 'taterblast on April 02, 2024, 11:08:23 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2024, 11:12:57 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 02, 2024, 11:22:34 AM
He's the closest thing we had to a legit NBA player so I'd be happy to have him back.In December, a rabid KSU fan assured me that he would basically replace Keyontae Johnson.
That being said, I like him a ton and would love to see him suit up for the Cats for another season.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 02, 2024, 11:47:27 AM
Post by: CNS on April 02, 2024, 08:27:53 PM
https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA (https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA)
Post by: cfbandyman on April 02, 2024, 08:32:19 PM
He's the closest thing we had to a legit NBA player so I'd be happy to have him back.In December, a rabid KSU fan assured me that he would basically replace Keyontae Johnson.
That being said, I like him a ton and would love to see him suit up for the Cats for another season.
Obviously that's a bit hyperbolic but he was though our most consistent scorer. Definitely want him back
Post by: Pete on April 02, 2024, 08:58:48 PM
Bronny!I mean we are away from the Hollywood hype.
https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA (https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA)
Post by: pissclams on April 02, 2024, 09:33:26 PM
lol tell kirstie alley, stonestreet and melton that.Bronny!I mean we are away from the Hollywood hype.
https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA (https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA)
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2024, 10:56:57 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 02, 2024, 11:17:12 PM
I’m still a little irked he didn’t play when I went to the cats game in Vegas :curse:lol tell kirstie alley, stonestreet and melton that.Bronny!I mean we are away from the Hollywood hype.
https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA (https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 03, 2024, 08:21:31 AM
lol tell kirstie alley, stonestreet and melton that.Bronny!I mean we are away from the Hollywood hype.
https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA (https://twitter.com/hoopsweiss/status/1775297450200162497?s=46&t=onNZnEudNJDpI10LAxjMgA)
pclams raises a valid point. Folks, there's a reason 'hattvegas is known as the hollywood of the midwest. Personally, i think the Alliance between ksucatsu and Showbiz is an asset that greatly outweighs its downsides, but we have to be realistic, and that reality is that if someone wants to get away from the bright lights, the cameras, the pop of ratzi, then ksu just probably isn't the place for them. and that's okay!
Post by: catastrophe on April 03, 2024, 09:30:03 AM
Who rehabs athletes with heart problems better than KSU?
They've been calling us 5-heart U for years.
Post by: Spracne on April 03, 2024, 12:29:51 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 03, 2024, 12:41:47 PM
Now Zeke Mayo am belong to us.
Personally, I will never, ever get tired of that amazing reference
Post by: michigancat on April 03, 2024, 12:58:12 PM
get your
Post by: Houstoncat93 on April 03, 2024, 01:06:34 PM
What a great day to be a Wildcats.
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on April 03, 2024, 01:12:28 PM
Post by: chum1 on April 03, 2024, 01:12:53 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2024, 01:13:26 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 03, 2024, 01:22:12 PM
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 03, 2024, 01:33:27 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 03, 2024, 01:41:00 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 03, 2024, 01:46:42 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 03, 2024, 01:51:20 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 03, 2024, 01:55:10 PM
Post by: CNS on April 03, 2024, 01:57:10 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 03, 2024, 01:57:43 PM
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 03, 2024, 02:02:11 PM
Hopefully the issues he had that made UM not let him play away games don't put him on Dick's one strike and you are out list......Michigan Twitter making a lot of jokes about him transferring to a school where he'll be abele to qualify academically, so maybe it's that?
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Post by: Winters on April 03, 2024, 02:19:33 PM
Dug :Chirp::cool:
Post by: Trim on April 03, 2024, 02:23:11 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 03, 2024, 03:01:11 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2024, 03:15:58 PM
Hopefully the issues he had that made UM not let him play away games don't put him on Dick's one strike and you are out list......Michigan Twitter making a lot of jokes about him transferring to a school where he'll be abele to qualify academically, so maybe it's that?
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it is that, but no one can figure out what kind of academic issue he had that didn't let him play in road games. A lot of weird crap went on around that program this year.
Post by: doom on April 03, 2024, 03:32:54 PM
Hopefully we get the Mich center too.
If we do, we're officially renaming him "Dig."
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 03, 2024, 03:36:21 PM
Michigan fans on reddit saying he wasn't going to class. Who knows.Hopefully the issues he had that made UM not let him play away games don't put him on Dick's one strike and you are out list......Michigan Twitter making a lot of jokes about him transferring to a school where he'll be abele to qualify academically, so maybe it's that?
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it is that, but no one can figure out what kind of academic issue he had that didn't let him play in road games. A lot of weird crap went on around that program this year.
Post by: CNS on April 03, 2024, 03:38:02 PM
Michigan fans on reddit saying he wasn't going to class. Who knows.Hopefully the issues he had that made UM not let him play away games don't put him on Dick's one strike and you are out list......Michigan Twitter making a lot of jokes about him transferring to a school where he'll be abele to qualify academically, so maybe it's that?
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it is that, but no one can figure out what kind of academic issue he had that didn't let him play in road games. A lot of weird crap went on around that program this year.
If that cute little girl is his, hopefully a need for a second chance will refocus him.
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2024, 03:54:50 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2024, 04:15:11 PM
i am not gE'ing here, how and why do we always, across three (very) different head coaches, ALWAYS get the dreamiest looking players?!?
IDK, we get plenty of dreamboats but all 3 regimes had their fair share of faces only a mother could love too.
Post by: pissclams on April 03, 2024, 05:09:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2024, 05:18:22 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 03, 2024, 05:25:25 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2024, 06:34:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 03, 2024, 08:29:33 PM
i am not gE'ing here, how and why do we always, across three (very) different head coaches, ALWAYS get the dreamiest looking players?!?
Man, I thought the same thing
Post by: pissclams on April 03, 2024, 08:44:55 PM
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1775584338559533401?s=20“Second highest rated player in the On3 industry consensus rankings to commit to a school to date.”
What a great day to be a Wildcats.
manbeck’s quote has such a “most fans to ever cross state lines to go to a bowl game” vibe to it
Post by: mocat on April 03, 2024, 08:47:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Cole_Manbeck/status/1775584338559533401?s=20“Second highest rated player in the On3 industry consensus rankings to commit to a school to date.”
What a great day to be a Wildcats.
manbeck’s quote has such a “most fans to ever cross state lines to go to a bowl game” vibe to it
"2nd largest st Patrick's day parade behind Chicago"
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2024, 09:05:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 03, 2024, 09:07:23 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2024, 09:23:19 PM
Post by: Winters on April 04, 2024, 07:29:35 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 04, 2024, 08:53:49 AM
MBJ :Chirp:
If we get him and Reed we've taken care of any height issues.
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 04, 2024, 08:57:17 AM
MBJ :Chirp:
Michael Bishop Jr. :surprised:
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 04, 2024, 10:15:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
Post by: cfbandyman on April 04, 2024, 10:46:46 AM
I always wonder how current underclassmen feel about all the hype for bringing new players in
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
Saw that and thought that is quite the statement to make. That being said I also always assume every school has someone who does that to every recruit they get and it's w/e
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 04, 2024, 10:59:14 AM
I always wonder how current underclassmen feel about all the hype for bringing new players inI've been thinking about this, as well. It would suck to get recruited, come in as a freshman, buy-in, practice hard to earn playing time and then have players transfer in who are guaranteed playing time/usage in the program. I guess it is just a fact of life in the NIL/portal world but it still has to suck for these guys.
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 04, 2024, 11:01:24 AM
The thing I like about this guy is he can actually get past a defender off the dribble
If he doesn't bring the ball up the court and dribble just past the 3 point line right into 3 defenders and then just give one of them the ball, its an improvement.
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 11:10:19 AM
The thing I like about this guy is he can actually get past a defender off the dribble
If he doesn't bring the ball up the court and dribble just past the 3 point line right into 3 defenders and then just give one of them the ball, its an improvement.
We have some good ball handling with Dug and DDA now we need a long wing that can shoot da 3 bomb.
Post by: mocat on April 04, 2024, 11:16:53 AM
I always wonder how current underclassmen feel about all the hype for bringing new players inI've been thinking about this, as well. It would suck to get recruited, come in as a freshman, buy-in, practice hard to earn playing time and then have players transfer in who are guaranteed playing time/usage in the program. I guess it is just a fact of life in the NIL/portal world but it still has to suck for these guys.
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
imagine seeing this tweet but you're The Flush
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 11:48:08 AM
Post by: kstate4life on April 04, 2024, 12:18:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 04, 2024, 12:26:39 PM
LBBIQ... How does Dug compliment Ques and Castillo? Aren't they all the same type of player?
if they can all get buckets they can be literal clones for all I care
Post by: CNS on April 04, 2024, 12:27:15 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 04, 2024, 12:33:07 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 04, 2024, 12:50:35 PM
You guys remember having Denis and Jake on the court at the same time? If not, it was either peak WildWildCat bb fun, or second to last year.Denis + Jake was a close second to last year.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 04, 2024, 02:30:13 PM
I always wonder how current underclassmen feel about all the hype for bringing new players inI've been thinking about this, as well. It would suck to get recruited, come in as a freshman, buy-in, practice hard to earn playing time and then have players transfer in who are guaranteed playing time/usage in the program. I guess it is just a fact of life in the NIL/portal world but it still has to suck for these guys.
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
Eh. They practice together and it becomes obvious who should be on the floor. It's only an issue if the coaches are guaranteeing playing time and putting the worse player on the floor out of some sort of obligation.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 04, 2024, 03:18:24 PM
makes senseI always wonder how current underclassmen feel about all the hype for bringing new players inI've been thinking about this, as well. It would suck to get recruited, come in as a freshman, buy-in, practice hard to earn playing time and then have players transfer in who are guaranteed playing time/usage in the program. I guess it is just a fact of life in the NIL/portal world but it still has to suck for these guys.
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
Eh. They practice together and it becomes obvious who should be on the floor. It's only an issue if the coaches are guaranteeing playing time and putting the worse player on the floor out of some sort of obligation.
Post by: pissclams on April 04, 2024, 08:50:46 PM
LBBIQ... How does Dug compliment Ques and Castillo? Aren't they all the same type of player?if i’m castillo, i’m hyped to have an experienced pg to help me learn the role at the next level.
Post by: Pete on April 04, 2024, 09:03:06 PM
Will there be fewer and fewer because they can make decent money trying to improve their game in college?
Post by: cfbandyman on April 04, 2024, 09:17:10 PM
How big of an impact on one-and-donee’s will the NIL have within three years?
Will there be fewer and fewer because they can make decent money trying to improve their game in college?
I feel like we've seen less already. Unless they are for sure top like 10 pick why bother with NBA for a bit.
Post by: Spracne on April 05, 2024, 01:02:17 AM
How big of an impact on one-and-donee’s will the NIL have within three years?
Will there be fewer and fewer because they can make decent money trying to improve their game in college?
I feel like we've seen less already. Unless they are for sure top like 10 pick why bother with NBA for a bit.
Fewer. FEWER!!!
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 05, 2024, 07:58:01 AM
How big of an impact on one-and-donee’s will the NIL have within three years?
Will there be fewer and fewer because they can make decent money trying to improve their game in college?
I feel like we've seen less already. Unless they are for sure top like 10 pick why bother with NBA for a bit.
Fewer. FEWER!!!
:shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 05, 2024, 10:58:33 AM
You guys remember having Denis and Jake on the court at the same time? If not, it was either peak WildWildCat bb fun, or second to last year.Denis + Jake was a close second to last year.
Denis + Jake is still my favorite. That team was amazing. I will always be convinced the double OT game wore our ass out for Butler. I think we would have beat Butler and gone on to win the NC.
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2024, 11:18:45 AM
You guys remember having Denis and Jake on the court at the same time? If not, it was either peak WildWildCat bb fun, or second to last year.Denis + Jake was a close second to last year.
Denis + Jake is still my favorite. That team was amazing. I will always be convinced the double OT game wore our ass out for Butler. I think we would have beat Butler and gone on to win the NC.
Right there with you.
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 11:20:35 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 05, 2024, 11:31:03 AM
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1776278499579617466
Post by: wetwillie on April 05, 2024, 11:32:06 AM
Post by: nicname on April 05, 2024, 11:41:46 AM
The 2009-10 team was good enough to win a natty, I agree.
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Not enough pros.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 05, 2024, 09:41:41 PM
Physically and emotionally exhaustedr, and had to play the late game against Xavier, as well (just as we did last year and in 88 against Purdue).You guys remember having Denis and Jake on the court at the same time? If not, it was either peak WildWildCat bb fun, or second to last year.Denis + Jake was a close second to last year.
Denis + Jake is still my favorite. That team was amazing. I will always be convinced the double OT game wore our ass out for Butler. I think we would have beat Butler and gone on to win the NC.
Right there with you.
I remember watching eventual champion Duke play that year before the tournament and my bro and I agreeing they weren't tough enough to play with the Cats. Truly, the junkyard Cats would have mopped them.
Post by: michigancat on April 05, 2024, 09:54:29 PM
Post by: Winters on April 06, 2024, 04:08:06 AM
MBJ :Chirp:What a week to be ultimately on the right side of history but MBJ is ours too you idiots. We are blessed!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 06, 2024, 09:27:59 AM
What really hurts about our last four E8's (although I lost the ability to feel pain after the 2010 loss) is that it wasn't like we had the 1992 Duke team blocking our path to the F4 in any of those matchups. We faced a lower seed in all of those games.Physically and emotionally exhaustedr, and had to play the late game against Xavier, as well (just as we did last year and in 88 against Purdue).You guys remember having Denis and Jake on the court at the same time? If not, it was either peak WildWildCat bb fun, or second to last year.Denis + Jake was a close second to last year.
Denis + Jake is still my favorite. That team was amazing. I will always be convinced the double OT game wore our ass out for Butler. I think we would have beat Butler and gone on to win the NC.
Right there with you.
I remember watching eventual champion Duke play that year before the tournament and my bro and I agreeing they weren't tough enough to play with the Cats. Truly, the junkyard Cats would have mopped them.
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2024, 11:14:32 AM
I dream of Rich running the court and Dug, Dai2, Castillo, etc hitting him from 35’ out with a poster oop.
Post by: wetwillie on April 06, 2024, 12:56:54 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 06, 2024, 01:26:41 PM
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2024, 01:27:40 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 06, 2024, 02:26:11 PM
Familiarize yourself with the namenice numbers all around, instant impact dude
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones)
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 06, 2024, 06:52:32 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on April 06, 2024, 08:56:16 PM
Post by: nicname on April 10, 2024, 01:13:17 AM
Mo Valley losing 12 of 16 all conference players to the portal
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2024, 02:11:58 AM
https://www.pjstar.com/story/sports/college/basketball/bradley-hoops/2024/03/20/ncaa-transfer-portal-missouri-valley-conference-mvc-players-transferring-for-2024-25/73024764007/I believe 9 of those came from Drake and Indiana State. A 10th player was tampered with by Iowa State and he's transferring from Northern Iowa. Dude announced his destination the day after the portal opened.
Mo Valley losing 12 of 16 all conference players to the portal
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 10, 2024, 09:38:52 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 10, 2024, 10:22:10 AM
Post by: joda on April 11, 2024, 11:31:28 AM
Just some blue bloods doing blue blood things
Post by: nicname on April 11, 2024, 12:09:27 PM
I hope we take a look at the goofy looking Indiana State center that drains 3s.
He has also been nicknamed "Cream Abdul-Jabbar", after Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (bestowed by Kentucky Wildcats talk radio host Matt Jones), "Larry Nerd", "Larry Blurred", "Steph Blurry", “Milk Chamberlain”,and "Rob Wave" by fans, teammates, and users on Twitter, due to wearing protective goggles.
Post by: Winters on April 11, 2024, 12:34:18 PM
You've resorted to chat GPT for your posts :frown:I hope we take a look at the goofy looking Indiana State center that drains 3s.
He has also been nicknamed "Cream Abdul-Jabbar", after Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (bestowed by Kentucky Wildcats talk radio host Matt Jones), "Larry Nerd", "Larry Blurred", "Steph Blurry", “Milk Chamberlain”,and "Rob Wave" by fans, teammates, and users on Twitter, due to wearing protective goggles.
Post by: nicname on April 11, 2024, 12:50:39 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2024, 09:15:41 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 11, 2024, 09:27:47 PM
Something to consider
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 12, 2024, 12:47:36 PM
https://twitter.com/DerekYoungKSO/status/1778513938360991775
Post by: stunted on April 12, 2024, 01:03:14 PM
Post by: CNS on April 12, 2024, 02:43:45 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 12, 2024, 04:13:45 PM
Post by: Winters on April 12, 2024, 04:16:31 PM
Crystal ball has former 5-star Mark Mitchell transferring from Duke to K-State!That seems good! :ksu:
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 12, 2024, 04:27:03 PM
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Post by: Winters on April 12, 2024, 05:21:49 PM
DY just posted on Twitter that he doesn't think we've been in contact with him.Does Mark Mitchell want the 'Cats more than the 'Cats want Mark Mitchell? :Wha:
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Post by: cfbandyman on April 13, 2024, 08:37:03 AM
DY just posted on Twitter that he doesn't think we've been in contact with him.Does Mark Mitchell want the 'Cats more than the 'Cats want Mark Mitchell? :Wha:
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I think DY is doing a reverse Gary Patterson sitch
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 13, 2024, 09:07:31 AM
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Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2024, 10:20:31 AM
Reem's with the family at a table and tang is at a high top with the player. Tang: "Now our fans are the best in the world... but when you're losing they're gonna get on your head!" lmaoawesome
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Post by: wetwillie on April 13, 2024, 11:00:48 AM
Familiarize yourself with the name
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones)
Time to forget this name now
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2024, 11:12:53 AM
Post by: catastrophe on April 13, 2024, 12:14:14 PM
Reem's with the family at a table and tang is at a high top with the player. Tang: "Now our fans are the best in the world... but when you're losing they're gonna get on your head!" lmaoThis is the premium content that brought me to gE in the first place.
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Post by: PandaXpanda on April 13, 2024, 12:19:57 PM
Bonus content: he told him to not check his dm's after a loss 'cause legalized sports betting has made fans ridiculous.Reem's with the family at a table and tang is at a high top with the player. Tang: "Now our fans are the best in the world... but when you're losing they're gonna get on your head!" lmaoThis is the premium content that brought me to gE in the first place.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on April 13, 2024, 03:28:30 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 14, 2024, 12:50:07 PM
Familiarize yourself with the name
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones)
Time to forget this name now
Who?
Post by: Hurricane Cat on April 14, 2024, 05:39:40 PM
Familiarize yourself with the name
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433224/mikeal-brown-jones)
Time to forget this name now
lol, well played.
At first I thought Tang was out maneuvered by Beard, but then realized Cats must have backed off . . .
Post by: Spaces on April 15, 2024, 01:01:21 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2024, 01:09:55 PM
Post by: Spaces on April 15, 2024, 01:32:55 PM
And here is his commitment video. The gear that commits wear now is so elite :love:
Post by: Spaces on April 15, 2024, 01:44:58 PM
https://twitter.com/jtabercrombie3/status/1775726297706008734
Post by: deputy dawg on April 15, 2024, 02:08:26 PM
Going to the well once more on recruiting incredibly good looking players
Yeah, K-State does recruit some fine-looking young men. While KU recruits good athletes, they always look like they're a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled.
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2024, 02:18:23 PM
Going to the well once more on recruiting incredibly good looking players
Yeah, K-State does recruit some fine-looking young men. While KU recruits good athletes, they always look like they're a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled.
Everyone is a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled ...
Post by: cfbandyman on April 15, 2024, 02:53:28 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 15, 2024, 03:24:50 PM
Going to the well once more on recruiting incredibly good looking players
Yeah, K-State does recruit some fine-looking young men. While KU recruits good athletes, they always look like they're a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled.
Everyone is a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled ...
lol
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2024, 03:55:35 PM
lolGoing to the well once more on recruiting incredibly good looking players
Yeah, K-State does recruit some fine-looking young men. While KU recruits good athletes, they always look like they're a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled.
Everyone is a chromosome away from being developmentally disabled ...
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2024, 03:56:18 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 16, 2024, 11:46:13 AM
glad we signed another point guard, the highest priority need on this team has now been addressedYesterday, I learned that he played hoops on the same HS team as Buddy Rich. Hopefully, he will throw lots of lobs to Buddy.
Does this mean Glover won't play for the Cats?
When will we hear for sure what Kaluma is planning?
Post by: ChiComCat on April 16, 2024, 02:36:33 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2024, 02:52:07 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 16, 2024, 03:05:13 PM
Miss on the Arizona stud - didn't make it past his first visit
generally speaking...if a kid has several visits lined up is it better to be the first visit or the last?
Post by: CNS on April 16, 2024, 03:27:42 PM
Post by: CNS on April 16, 2024, 03:38:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2024, 04:24:11 PM
How many open spots do we have left?
Sounds like Kaluma is leaning towards returning.
Dug
DDA
Glover
RJ
Castillo
Taj
Kaluma
Buddy
CJ
DNG
I think we are heavily pursuing Cliff from Rutgers so that would be 11. Baba Miller would be 12. Hopefully 13 is some under the radar mysrecruit with a high ceiling.
Post by: chum1 on April 16, 2024, 04:51:37 PM
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 16, 2024, 04:53:34 PM
https://twitter.com/HeDontMissVj/status/1780322194804859316
:D
Post by: CNS on April 16, 2024, 05:06:12 PM
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)
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Mark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
Post by: nicname on April 16, 2024, 05:16:01 PM
How many open spots do we have left?
Sounds like Kaluma is leaning towards returning.
Dug
DDA
Glover
RJ
Castillo
Taj
Kaluma
Buddy
CJ
DNG
I think we are heavily pursuing Cliff from Rutgers so that would be 11. Baba Miller would be 12. Hopefully 13 is some under the radar mysrecruit with a high ceiling.
Really shaping up nicely
Post by: Winters on April 17, 2024, 01:59:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2024, 02:26:56 PM
Duke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2024, 05:18:21 PM
Duke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
Is that a recent change? As of yesterday, I found 3 or 4 sources saying we were but they were all a week or so old at that time.
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2024, 08:00:04 PM
Duke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
Is that a recent change? As of yesterday, I found 3 or 4 sources saying we were but they were all a week or so old at that time.
Those sources were weird college basketball aggregator twitter accounts, right? He's not been on campus and he's not going to be
Post by: PandaXpanda on April 17, 2024, 08:07:08 PM
It's been a couple days but DY said we hadn't been in contactDuke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
Is that a recent change? As of yesterday, I found 3 or 4 sources saying we were but they were all a week or so old at that time.
Those sources were weird college basketball aggregator twitter accounts, right? He's not been on campus and he's not going to be
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Post by: CNS on April 17, 2024, 08:11:25 PM
Duke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
Is that a recent change? As of yesterday, I found 3 or 4 sources saying we were but they were all a week or so old at that time.
Those sources were weird college basketball aggregator twitter accounts, right? He's not been on campus and he's not going to be
I guess I was unaware that SI is a shitty aggregator now.
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2024, 08:22:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 17, 2024, 08:22:57 PM
Duke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
Is that a recent change? As of yesterday, I found 3 or 4 sources saying we were but they were all a week or so old at that time.
Those sources were weird college basketball aggregator twitter accounts, right? He's not been on campus and he's not going to be
I guess I was unaware that SI is a shitty aggregator now.
It actually is now, unfortunately
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2024, 08:35:10 PM
Post by: Havs on April 18, 2024, 01:08:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TransferPortal_/status/1781017996825076194
Post by: Dirty Deeds on April 18, 2024, 01:31:07 PM
So why aren't we recruiting him?Duke forward
https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/ (https://247sports.com/Player/Mark-Mitchell-46077127/)QuoteMark Mitchell, a former five-star McDonald's All-American and two-year starter for the Duke basketball program, entered the transfer portal earlier this week. Now, the 247Sports Crystal Ball projects the 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward to take his talents to Kansas State, albeit with only one entered prediction thus far.
https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24 (https://www.si.com/college/duke/prediction-pops-outbound-basketball-transfer-4-24)
This is cap, by the way, we aren't recruiting this guy
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Post by: wetwillie on April 18, 2024, 01:36:24 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on April 18, 2024, 02:17:52 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 18, 2024, 02:20:32 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 18, 2024, 02:51:15 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 18, 2024, 03:18:54 PM
He doesn't fit what Tang wants to do. He can't shoot a lick from outside of 2 feet.
Well, neither could Colbert...
I just hope we don't strike out too many times and/or wait too long and then end up with a few McNairs. One would be fine as a complimentary piece, but we've got to do better this year.
Post by: Winters on April 18, 2024, 03:37:27 PM
Looks like we are attempting to bring in a Brady Heslip esque sniper in Brendan Hausen from Villanova. Visiting this weekend. First white chocolate of the Tang era?
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An elite shooter from long range who has connected on .395 of his attempts from beyond the 3-point arc in 66 games over two seasons as a Wildcat.
Would take!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 18, 2024, 03:54:37 PM
Looks like we are attempting to bring in a Brady Heslip esque sniper in Brendan Hausen from Villanova. Visiting this weekend. First white chocolate of the Tang era?He looks a little KUey to me
Post by: Spracne on April 18, 2024, 04:10:45 PM
Looks like we are attempting to bring in a Brady Heslip esque sniper in Brendan Hausen from Villanova. Visiting this weekend. First white chocolate of the Tang era?He looks a little KUey to me
In that case, pray you can swoop him up.
Post by: KITNfury on April 18, 2024, 06:43:07 PM
Post by: Spracne on April 18, 2024, 06:51:34 PM
Scoop?
No, I meant swoop.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 18, 2024, 07:51:35 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 19, 2024, 02:41:51 AM
Post by: nicname on April 19, 2024, 11:50:12 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 19, 2024, 12:24:08 PM
This is definitely a swooping situation
Swooping in on this Chad
Post by: IPA4Me on April 19, 2024, 12:31:17 PM
https://twitter.com/kgvancamp/status/1781355903008317525?t=jAfFdiPX8Jwy0Uigwh7YhQ&s=19
Post by: Winters on April 19, 2024, 04:50:22 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2024, 05:01:22 PM
Interesting Portal Kombat theory.
https://twitter.com/kgvancamp/status/1781355903008317525?t=jAfFdiPX8Jwy0Uigwh7YhQ&s=19
Poor Fitz got used as a pawn and now he is crying about it
Post by: catastrophe on April 19, 2024, 05:17:20 PM
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Post by: Skipper44 on April 19, 2024, 05:37:58 PM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 19, 2024, 05:39:56 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 19, 2024, 07:56:50 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 19, 2024, 08:58:52 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 20, 2024, 07:56:45 AM
The story is Beard and his staff circulated that Mark Mitchell had silently committed to KSU. They did it to put doubt in the mind of MBJ, so they could close him on his visit. Fitz and his flunkies lapped it up and put in a crystal ball prediction for Mitchell to KSU.
Fitz put a crystal ball in too? Thought it was just the AZ guy
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2024, 09:06:53 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 20, 2024, 09:19:29 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 20, 2024, 09:52:50 AM
I thought Ryan Gilbert did but maybe I'm wrong. I may have slandered the good name of Fitz for nothing.
It was Gilbert, Fitz doesn't do crystal balls, but it's his damn website
Post by: Winters on April 20, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
Boss signs off, no?I thought Ryan Gilbert did but maybe I'm wrong. I may have slandered the good name of Fitz for nothing.
It was Gilbert, Fitz doesn't do crystal balls, but it's his damn website
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2024, 03:10:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2024, 12:30:47 PM
Boss signs off, no?I thought Ryan Gilbert did but maybe I'm wrong. I may have slandered the good name of Fitz for nothing.
It was Gilbert, Fitz doesn't do crystal balls, but it's his damn website
You'd assume so :dunno:
Post by: WildcatNation on April 21, 2024, 07:54:51 PM
I thought Ryan Gilbert did but maybe I'm wrong. I may have slandered the good name of Fitz for nothing.
It was Gilbert, Fitz doesn't do crystal balls, but it's his damn website
Nobody on our side put in a prediction of Mitchell to KSU. Jason Scheer from Arizona did and apparently got played by Chris Beard and then got weirdly defensive about it.
Post by: LickNeckey on April 22, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
Post by: Winters on April 22, 2024, 10:24:04 AM
Hausen kid seemed to be appreciating the raspberry bean dip yesterday:emawkid:
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2024, 02:26:52 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 23, 2024, 02:38:28 PM
Apparently we have Battle and Cliff on campus tomorrow for visits. Staff is swinging for the fences this year.
I think some of it is a result of an improved NIL war chest
Post by: Winters on April 23, 2024, 03:24:21 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 23, 2024, 09:13:45 PM
Post by: CNS on April 23, 2024, 09:16:39 PM
Post by: Watershed on April 24, 2024, 06:31:05 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on April 24, 2024, 07:01:07 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2024, 07:07:17 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 24, 2024, 08:46:52 AM
https://x.com/SSN_KState/status/1783129154793136570
Post by: nicname on April 24, 2024, 08:54:51 AM
RJ is hitting the portal:
https://x.com/SSN_KState/status/1783129154793136570
This one is a bummer for me.
Post by: pissclams on April 24, 2024, 08:55:10 AM
RJ is hitting the portal:this is the biggest surprise to me. disappointing.
https://x.com/SSN_KState/status/1783129154793136570
Post by: pissclams on April 24, 2024, 08:57:30 AM
IMO going through the process and withdrawing is good for most with pro aspirations, even if they're likely to play in Europei’m not sure what all of the nuances are but i’d be curious as to what the upfront costs are to him/other players who have no real shot of getting drafted. the long term benefit is obvious as it could lead to FA opportunities that otherwise might not exist but just wondering how it impacts him now, if at all.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 24, 2024, 10:35:47 AM
I'm surprised it too him this long to leave. He's behind Dai Dai already. We already brought in Dug and CJ to play in front of him. Castillo will play in front of him. We're still looking at adding Battle who would take more of his minutes and Hausen who he would perhaps share time with. Tang and Co are trying hard not to play him next year.
Post by: wetwillie on April 24, 2024, 11:22:47 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2024, 02:12:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 24, 2024, 03:13:53 PM
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2024, 04:01:04 PM
Just photoshop Dai Dai in there
No. For real?
Post by: MakeItRain on April 24, 2024, 04:05:14 PM
Just photoshop Dai Dai in there
No. For real?
he's referring to my sig pic
Post by: CNS on April 24, 2024, 04:12:39 PM
whew.
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 25, 2024, 05:31:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 25, 2024, 05:37:46 PM
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2024, 06:35:48 PM
Damn. Mrs. Stevesie60's favorite player was RJ by a lot. If Buddy leaves we might be giving up our season tickets.
Hang on. It's going to be a fun season.
Post by: sys on April 25, 2024, 06:36:37 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2024, 07:05:43 PM
college athletics should just stop putting names on the back. could save a lot of money on uniforms.i’d prefer that the ncaa issues each player one set of uniforms (home and away) for each division 1 school. the player can then filter through his/her uniform closet and select the appropriate uniforms for the school which they’re currently enrolled in. after eligibility, the players will simply discard any unused uniforms.
Post by: sys on April 25, 2024, 07:19:08 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 25, 2024, 09:39:31 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 26, 2024, 09:17:32 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2024, 09:27:27 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 26, 2024, 09:49:04 AM
https://twitter.com/franfraschilla/status/1783863214813401178
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2024, 09:59:26 AM
https://x.com/hausenbrendan/status/1783869982704570659?s=46&t=tYwTUm4s0RPJhorbucsbBg
Post by: Spracne on April 26, 2024, 10:09:12 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 26, 2024, 10:10:03 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2024, 10:15:28 AM
If he had any guts at all, he would have used Beyonce's music. Conclusion: total dud.
Looks like you are Hausen some jealousy
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2024, 10:39:57 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 26, 2024, 10:47:54 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 26, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
Add Ques Glover to the RIP pilethis should not surprise
Post by: wetwillie on April 27, 2024, 06:42:05 PM
Post by: Winters on April 27, 2024, 06:44:05 PM
Baye Fall to the CatsReally nice get
Post by: cfbandyman on April 27, 2024, 07:39:59 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 27, 2024, 10:56:07 PM
Post by: Catchacold on April 28, 2024, 03:35:06 PM
Just photoshop Dai Dai in there
welp
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2024, 03:48:34 PM
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2024, 05:41:51 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 28, 2024, 06:26:56 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 28, 2024, 09:30:59 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 28, 2024, 11:10:31 PM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 28, 2024, 11:30:21 PM
I always wonder how current underclassmen feel about all the hype for bringing new players inI've been thinking about this, as well. It would suck to get recruited, come in as a freshman, buy-in, practice hard to earn playing time and then have players transfer in who are guaranteed playing time/usage in the program. I guess it is just a fact of life in the NIL/portal world but it still has to suck for these guys.
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Foster30/status/1775637668988153937
WELP
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 28, 2024, 11:32:27 PM
Post by: Pete on April 29, 2024, 07:32:44 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 29, 2024, 08:44:52 AM
what is the point in following high school recruiting at this moment in time? Any recruit who is so so will probably be gone and any recruit who whips ass most likely will transfer out.I was trying to keep an open mind about the NIL era but Dai Dai's departure confirms that we are now following a low-level pro team with players and coaches that have at most a one-year commitment to the program.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 29, 2024, 09:29:28 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 29, 2024, 10:27:14 AM
Officially looks nice
Post by: cfbandyman on April 29, 2024, 10:31:43 AM
I think the only way to even remotely "fix" this is to limit it on the school side...limit how many transfers a school can take in a give year. A "demand" reduction.
The only way to fix it is to put a minimum and maximum on NIL. If you get caught going over the maximum, you get a 2 year ban on post season play.
I think a combo of this needs to happen. Like a school can only get like 3 (or w/e) transfers per year. A transfer can only enter the portal once. You can only spend up to $2 mill or w/e you want on it.
The only loop hole is for if you are on a team and the HC leaves. Then you can transfer out in the portal w/o using that one transfer, and that school with a new HC is not limited to transfer amounts for that first season.
Post by: kstate4life on April 29, 2024, 10:46:15 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2024, 11:12:00 AM
So we getting Battle or what? Seems like twitter thought it was a done deal.Yes you can consider that one done
Post by: kstate4life on April 29, 2024, 11:26:50 AM
So we getting Battle or what? Seems like twitter thought it was a done deal.Yes you can consider that one done
:ksu:
Post by: catastrophe on April 29, 2024, 12:10:34 PM
Yeah I’m a little worried this could ruin the sport if left unchecked. Right now it’s the worst of both worlds because at least in the pros you have contracts and (in the NFL at least) franchise tagging.what is the point in following high school recruiting at this moment in time? Any recruit who is so so will probably be gone and any recruit who whips ass most likely will transfer out.I was trying to keep an open mind about the NIL era but Dai Dai's departure confirms that we are now following a low-level pro team with players and coaches that have at most a one-year commitment to the program.
Potentially starting every year with a completely new roster takes 90% of the fun out of being any kind of fan but especially a college fan.
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2024, 12:12:01 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 29, 2024, 12:13:35 PM
Yeah I’m a little worried this could ruin the sport if left unchecked. Right now it’s the worst of both worlds because at least in the pros you have contracts and (in the NFL at least) franchise tagging.what is the point in following high school recruiting at this moment in time? Any recruit who is so so will probably be gone and any recruit who whips ass most likely will transfer out.I was trying to keep an open mind about the NIL era but Dai Dai's departure confirms that we are now following a low-level pro team with players and coaches that have at most a one-year commitment to the program.
Potentially starting every year with a completely new roster takes 90% of the fun out of being any kind of fan but especially a college fan.
Agreed, it went from "oh boy I look forward to seeing this kid play for 4 years, will be sad when he leaves" to "I'll be happy if we actually stays." Like I'm glad they have more choice and are getting paid, but it's such a free for all.
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2024, 12:31:59 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 29, 2024, 12:48:16 PM
The only way to fix it is to put a minimum and maximum on NIL. If you get caught going over the maximum, you get a 2 year ban on post season play.
why do you hate free markets
Post by: Houstoncat93 on April 29, 2024, 12:59:40 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2024, 01:04:04 PM
This transfer\NIL era only works long term if you make the players employees and then collectively bargain in the rules suggested above. College football and basketball have to transition to a pro-model. It is the only way to maintain a fair balance of compensation and freedom for the players and a product that fans want to watch.
No one is going to stop watching college sports because the players don't stay all 4 years.
Post by: Winters on April 29, 2024, 01:05:45 PM
I remember having a hard time rooting for the 22-23 kstate team because they were all new. Even harder time for the 07-08 cats.Both of those were very easy to get behind right off the bat, imHo
Post by: OB_Won on April 29, 2024, 01:08:16 PM
This transfer\NIL era only works long term if you make the players employees and then collectively bargain in the rules suggested above. College football and basketball have to transition to a pro-model. It is the only way to maintain a fair balance of compensation and freedom for the players and a product that fans want to watch.In all seriousness, when you really boil down to it, what's even the point of college sports if they do that? It's essentially just minor leagues with an option to draft AFTER (as opposed to before) seeing them play amongst a more competitive and thinned herd.
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2024, 01:42:23 PM
I remember having a hard time rooting for the 22-23 kstate team because they were all new. Even harder time for the 07-08 cats.Both of those were very easy to get behind right off the bat, imHo
Oh that's right, I loved the crap out of them both and I hadn't a damn clue who basically any of them were in October.
Post by: sys on April 29, 2024, 07:09:03 PM
but as the tweet says, i'll still keep watching that garbage.
Post by: SleepFighter on April 29, 2024, 07:41:12 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2024, 08:21:08 PM
but that’s not what houstoncat93 said. there will undoubtedly be fewer fans because of this level of player churn, which is the pointThis transfer\NIL era only works long term if you make the players employees and then collectively bargain in the rules suggested above. College football and basketball have to transition to a pro-model. It is the only way to maintain a fair balance of compensation and freedom for the players and a product that fans want to watch.
No one is going to stop watching college sports because the players don't stay all 4 years.
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 29, 2024, 09:12:18 PM
Post by: Trim on April 29, 2024, 09:50:49 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 30, 2024, 09:43:53 AM
Post by: deputy dawg on April 30, 2024, 11:06:19 AM
Should we just designate Arkansas, North Texas, and another one or two schools as our farm teams and transfer kids down and up as they need?
Don't forget NDSU
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 30, 2024, 03:25:14 PM
https://x.com/JonRothstein/status/1785391443416154408
Post by: muqluk on April 30, 2024, 07:33:34 PM
Nebraska belongs on this listShould we just designate Arkansas, North Texas, and another one or two schools as our farm teams and transfer kids down and up as they need?
Don't forget NDSU
Post by: chum1 on April 30, 2024, 07:41:52 PM
https://twitter.com/TransferPortal_/status/1785448531157004722
Post by: Stupid Fitz on April 30, 2024, 07:51:16 PM
:frown:What the crap? It’s like a 1 year only policy at this point.
https://twitter.com/TransferPortal_/status/1785448531157004722
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Post by: catastrophe on April 30, 2024, 08:06:42 PM
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Post by: Spracne on April 30, 2024, 08:53:35 PM
Post by: muqluk on April 30, 2024, 08:56:20 PM
How many scholarship players does KSU have, and can anyone name them?
…Jaeqwan … Marquis-Nottomlin?
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Post by: wetwillie on April 30, 2024, 09:29:05 PM
How many scholarship players does KSU have, and can anyone name them?
We have 9 at the moment
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 01, 2024, 12:52:21 AM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 01, 2024, 09:00:07 AM
I think we can dismiss as a myth the idea that Tang builds a special bond with his players. Maybe Tomlin, but Linton crap on that.
Uncontrolled NIL destroyed the idea of school or coach loyalty when dealing with 18 year old kids.
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2024, 09:20:46 AM
I think we can dismiss as a myth the idea that Tang builds a special bond with his players. Maybe Tomlin, but Linton crap on that.
Uncontrolled NIL destroyed the idea of school or coach loyalty when dealing with 18 year old kids.
We are still probably better off with Tang. From the guy I know that has interacted with Tang a few times, Tang has a personality that makes you feel like you both already know each other and is very likable. Same guy told me Reem is even more so like that. Those are great attributes if we have to sell our team to a new 7 or 8 kids annually. Especially if Tang's new contract has a significant NIL component.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 01, 2024, 10:05:08 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 01, 2024, 10:27:54 AM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 01, 2024, 11:52:11 AM
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2024, 01:42:22 PM
I cannot fathom how Weber would even begin to operate in this new climate
A time machine, I suppoose.
Same for LHC Bill Snyder.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 01, 2024, 01:46:40 PM
I cannot fathom how Weber would even begin to operate in this new climate
A time machine, I suppoose.
Same for LHC Bill Snyder.
I think young Snyder would be really good with the portal and NIL. Old Snyder would just lose players left and right, though.
Post by: Stupid Fitz on May 01, 2024, 02:13:54 PM
I think we can dismiss as a myth the idea that Tang builds a special bond with his players. Maybe Tomlin, but Linton crap on that.
Uncontrolled NIL destroyed the idea of school or coach loyalty when dealing with 18 year old kids.
We are still probably better off with Tang. From the guy I know that has interacted with Tang a few times, Tang has a personality that makes you feel like you both already know each other and is very likable. Same guy told me Reem is even more so like that. Those are great attributes if we have to sell our team to a new 7 or 8 kids annually. Especially if Tang's new contract has a significant NIL component.
This is probably true, I've interacted with Reem twice with my kid and it was the same thing both times. He went above and beyond. Like from just saying, "hey coach Reem" to him immediately running over like he knew us and talking to my kid for a few minutes. Seems like a legit nice dude and that has to resonate with players. Money usually trumps that unfortunately.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 01, 2024, 03:22:50 PM
Guys love Tang, they just aren't going to shoot off their own foot if the bag is available elsewhere.
Yeah, I don't blame them at all. Most of these guys will probably make more playing college ball than any pro ball.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on May 01, 2024, 04:13:38 PM
I think we can dismiss as a myth the idea that Tang builds a special bond with his players. Maybe Tomlin, but Linton crap on that.
Uncontrolled NIL destroyed the idea of school or coach loyalty when dealing with 18 year old kids.
https://x.com/Coachreem4ever/status/1785778374289531382
Post by: CNS on May 01, 2024, 04:42:17 PM
They need to set up an account that can receive venmo, text donations, etc via mobile, then flash that on the jumbo screens at all games so that fans can donate in the heat of the moment, while they are all horned up, to the KState Collective, or whatever they are rough ridin' calling it. They should flash that on the screen after every touch down, sack, alley oop, etc. It should be on all screens as fans enter and exit all games.
Would be a good idea to figure out how to milk for the NIL money since that is the future.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on May 01, 2024, 05:51:29 PM
Do any of the AD folks still post here? If so, I have an NIL idea:
They need to set up an account that can receive venmo, text donations, etc via mobile, then flash that on the jumbo screens at all games so that fans can donate in the heat of the moment, while they are all horned up, to the KState Collective, or whatever they are rough ridin' calling it. They should flash that on the screen after every touch down, sack, alley oop, etc. It should be on all screens as fans enter and exit all games.
Would be a good idea to figure out how to milk for the NIL money since that is the future.
https://catsnil.com/support-our-athletes/
You can sign up for as little as $9.99 per month.
Post by: wetwillie on May 01, 2024, 06:09:17 PM
Post by: catastrophe on May 01, 2024, 07:25:19 PM
NIL is a billionaires playground, any attempts at grass roots fundraising are just token effort to go through the motions.Why would donations to Ahearn Fund be any different? Just because they’re tax deductible they’re more suitable for the little guy?
Post by: wetwillie on May 01, 2024, 07:46:53 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 01, 2024, 10:09:38 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on May 02, 2024, 12:46:54 AM
Post by: Winters on May 02, 2024, 09:26:51 AM
I don't know my answer to this, and am not trying to imply anything by asking; do either Dai Dai or RJ stay if Tang doesn't flirt with Arkansas?Don't believe that had anything to do with it, imHo.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 02, 2024, 09:37:15 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 02, 2024, 09:43:51 AM
Post by: CNS on May 02, 2024, 10:32:29 AM
Dai Dai and RJ were moving backward on the depth chart with Dug, Castillo, CJ and seemingly Battle. They went from 3rd and 4th at the position to probably 4th and 6th. We'll see how the rest of the roster fills out, but we'd probably need to run 3 guards quite a bit (which we might do) for Dai Dai and RJ to even get the minutes they got last year.
I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw someone post something saying that Dai Dai was told he would still be starting most likely, but he was still advised by his ppl to leave. No clue on validity.
Post by: kstate4life on May 02, 2024, 10:35:54 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 02, 2024, 10:37:57 AM
Dai Dai and RJ were moving backward on the depth chart with Dug, Castillo, CJ and seemingly Battle. They went from 3rd and 4th at the position to probably 4th and 6th. We'll see how the rest of the roster fills out, but we'd probably need to run 3 guards quite a bit (which we might do) for Dai Dai and RJ to even get the minutes they got last year.
I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw someone post something saying that Dai Dai was told he would still be starting most likely, but he was still advised by his ppl to leave. No clue on validity.
That is weird. He was already getting 20 mins a game so he had to know he was still going to get his playing time.
Post by: wetwillie on May 02, 2024, 11:33:41 AM
Battle doesn't seem like a thing anymore. Visiting Gonzaga this weekend after Nova a few days ago.
The story is he wasn't very thorough in his original recruitment and promised his mother he would take all the visits. If you believe such things he already silently committed to KSU and told them he is just going to take the two visits to make mom happy.
Post by: kstate4life on May 02, 2024, 11:35:01 AM
Battle doesn't seem like a thing anymore. Visiting Gonzaga this weekend after Nova a few days ago.
The story is he wasn't very thorough in his original recruitment and promised his mother he would take all the visits. If you believe such things he already silently committed to KSU and told them he is just going to take the two visits to make mom happy.
I will choose to believe this!
Post by: MakeItRain on May 02, 2024, 12:16:13 PM
Dai Dai and RJ were moving backward on the depth chart with Dug, Castillo, CJ and seemingly Battle. They went from 3rd and 4th at the position to probably 4th and 6th. We'll see how the rest of the roster fills out, but we'd probably need to run 3 guards quite a bit (which we might do) for Dai Dai and RJ to even get the minutes they got last year.
I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw someone post something saying that Dai Dai was told he would still be starting most likely, but he was still advised by his ppl to leave. No clue on validity.
I seriously doubt the coaches promised anyone anything other than a chance to compete for time. Dai Dai didn't want to be put in a position where he had a bunch of juniors and seniors competing for minutes he felt like he earned. I'm also guessing there's a home component to this and he's going to end up at a school closer to Chicago.
Post by: CNS on May 02, 2024, 12:22:59 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 03, 2024, 10:34:32 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5143604/jt-toppin
Post by: wetwillie on May 03, 2024, 10:58:14 AM
Post by: pissclams on May 03, 2024, 12:45:41 PM
Sounds like we're in on this guy - it would be a fantastic get.he’s a rebounding machine, I bet he dominates the mikan drills
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5143604/jt-toppin
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 03, 2024, 02:28:41 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 05, 2024, 12:40:05 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 05, 2024, 12:54:12 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 05, 2024, 01:13:08 PM
eff bama
no truer words have ever been spoken
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2024, 02:15:55 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2024, 02:22:06 PM
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2024, 03:14:23 PM
We already landed Baye Fall
We probably need one more big.
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2024, 04:41:28 PM
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2024, 04:48:16 PM
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2024, 07:14:21 PM
Post by: Cire on May 05, 2024, 07:37:45 PM
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Post by: Spracne on May 05, 2024, 08:07:55 PM
We still have to find like five guys
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burger boys?
Post by: wetwillie on May 05, 2024, 08:11:26 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2024, 10:23:51 AM
Basketball is stupid anyway
totally. the way we tried for like 10 minutes and became elite just shows how stupid it is.
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2024, 11:09:21 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on May 06, 2024, 11:44:10 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 06, 2024, 01:14:40 PM
Like I know all this is frustrating and disheartening recently but my god the twitter reaction (and yes i know it's twitter, overreaction is the name of the game) is over the top. It sucks, but where have these bozos been when all the KITN of football recruiting was going on during the second part of the LHCBS part 2. Maybe they are too young to remember.
certain twitter accounts need to be banned from the app. ELON!!
Post by: michigancat on May 06, 2024, 01:21:36 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on May 06, 2024, 01:30:33 PM
Like I know all this is frustrating and disheartening recently but my god the twitter reaction (and yes i know it's twitter, overreaction is the name of the game) is over the top. It sucks, but where have these bozos been when all the KITN of football recruiting was going on during the second part of the LHCBS part 2. Maybe they are too young to remember.
i don't really know what other twitter fanbases are like, but kstate twitter is bad and makes me upset.
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2024, 01:59:59 PM
I don't even know what's happening
Same.
Last I heard Cam, Colbert, RJ and Ames were leaving and we had a bunch of dudes coming in. Then Kaluma enters the portal. I’m guessing some of the additional dudes cat fans were hoping for have decided to take their duding to various other duding hotspots.
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2024, 02:05:41 PM
I don't even know what's happening
Same.
Last I heard Cam, Colbert, RJ and Ames were leaving and we had a bunch of dudes coming in. Then Kaluma enters the portal. I’m guessing some of the additional dudes cat fans were hoping for have decided to take their duding to various other duding hotspots.
We were thought to be landing Khalif Battle and Cliff Omoruyi. Battle just announced for Gonzaga and Cliff just announced for Bama.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 06, 2024, 02:38:21 PM
Post by: nicname on May 06, 2024, 03:01:30 PM
Post by: Spaces on May 06, 2024, 03:59:30 PM
So, what is the current roster?Dug McDaniel
CJ Jones
Brendan Hausen
Baye Fall
Buddy Rich
David N'Guessan
Taj Manning
David Castillo
Post by: Houstoncat93 on May 06, 2024, 04:35:25 PM
So, what is the current roster?Dug McDaniel
CJ Jones
Brendan Hausen
Baye Fall
Buddy Rich
David N'Guessan
Taj Manning
Big 12 changed format to 3 v3 right? If not we might need a couple more dudes or even just some warm bodies.
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2024, 04:36:17 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 06, 2024, 04:38:40 PM
Castillo
McDaniel
Big 12 caliber starter/potential HM:
N'Guessan
CJ Jones
B12 ready contributor:
Hausen
Development worth trying to keep around/less than 10 minutes a game:
Fall
Rich
Manning
We need two more guys in the top two tiers and probably one in the contributor tier (or Fall/Rich/Manning to step up a level) to have a shot at the NCAAs, IMO. We need two scorers and two rebounders, which Toppin and the UNCW guy could cover.
Post by: wetwillie on May 06, 2024, 06:08:33 PM
Post by: Perry on May 06, 2024, 06:27:28 PM
Might have to start throwing money at players already committed to other schools
I sincerely hope the Cats aren't the only team that isn't already doing this.
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2024, 07:42:59 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 06, 2024, 11:00:56 PM
Might have to start throwing money at players already committed to other schools
I sincerely hope the Cats aren't the only team that isn't already doing this.
Probably not. We got two guys who were committed elsewhere at this time last year, McNair and Glover. There are also the guys in the portal who are testing out the NBA right now. These plenty of guys still in the portal as well.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 06, 2024, 11:03:25 PM
Like I know all this is frustrating and disheartening recently but my god the twitter reaction (and yes i know it's twitter, overreaction is the name of the game) is over the top. It sucks, but where have these bozos been when all the KITN of football recruiting was going on during the second part of the LHCBS part 2. Maybe they are too young to remember.
certain twitter accounts need to be banned from the app. ELON!!
specialteamsu is an embarrassment. I think the kid is still in college. The guys my age, from KU, who he's battling with, are worse. Grown ass men, with kids and a mortgage battling burner accounts on twitter is sad as eff.
Post by: CHONGS on May 07, 2024, 09:25:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 07, 2024, 09:52:27 PM
Post by: CHONGS on May 07, 2024, 10:17:53 PM
What's the scout on Hawkins? I assume you watched him play some.He's pretty all around good at all aspects. He's not the one to carry a team on his back when you need scores, but he'll fill up the stat sheets.
Post by: nicname on May 08, 2024, 06:55:38 AM
Post by: pissclams on May 08, 2024, 08:13:43 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 08, 2024, 08:48:14 AM
Post by: Winters on May 08, 2024, 09:09:36 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 08, 2024, 11:19:41 AM
Coleman Hawkins will definitely piss you off multiples times in a game if you've watched him
Yep. He's a bonehead but definitely will also make big plays.
Post by: cfbandyman on May 08, 2024, 12:30:16 PM
Like I know all this is frustrating and disheartening recently but my god the twitter reaction (and yes i know it's twitter, overreaction is the name of the game) is over the top. It sucks, but where have these bozos been when all the KITN of football recruiting was going on during the second part of the LHCBS part 2. Maybe they are too young to remember.
certain twitter accounts need to be banned from the app. ELON!!
specialteamsu is an embarrassment. I think the kid is still in college. The guys my age, from KU, who he's battling with, are worse. Grown ass men, with kids and a mortgage battling burner accounts on twitter is sad as eff.
He's exactly who I had to mute through all this. My god it's gross
Post by: Winters on May 08, 2024, 12:36:03 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 08, 2024, 12:44:55 PM
RJ Jones to TCU :frown:bro bleeds purple
Post by: ChiComCat on May 08, 2024, 12:49:44 PM
RJ Jones to TCU :frown:
That could be a painful reminder that we get yearly
Post by: OB_Won on May 08, 2024, 01:10:27 PM
No gE, have we ever had anybody transfer out in football or bball that had regional/national success somewhere else?RJ Jones to TCU :frown:
That could be a painful reminder that we get yearly
Post by: 'taterblast on May 08, 2024, 01:19:44 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on May 08, 2024, 01:26:51 PM
Nijel Pack started on a team that made it to the final four
And then didn't make the NIT the next year.
Post by: Winters on May 08, 2024, 01:49:56 PM
Have to appreciate someone who is that committed to a gimmickRJ Jones to TCU :frown:bro bleeds purple
Post by: OB_Won on May 08, 2024, 04:18:49 PM
Nijel Pack started on a team that made it to the final fourThat’s right! I forgot about him.
Post by: nicname on May 08, 2024, 09:34:41 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 08, 2024, 09:54:31 PM
Other than Pack, it’s probably Selton Miguel. Dejuan Gordon made all-wac for UT-Arlington this year after stops at KSU, Mizzou and New Mexico St :lol:.Talk about finding your level.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 09, 2024, 07:52:47 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2024, 08:24:27 AM
Recruit is in Manhattan this morning for a visit. Not sure if it is Hawkins.
You laid eyes on them?
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 09, 2024, 08:25:53 AM
Recruit is in Manhattan this morning for a visit. Not sure if it is Hawkins.
You laid eyes on them?
I'm at work but will report back when I find out who it is.
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2024, 08:29:43 AM
Post by: Winters on May 09, 2024, 08:53:30 AM
Other than Pack, it’s probably Selton Miguel. Dejuan Gordon made all-wac for UT-Arlington this year after stops at KSU, Mizzou and New Mexico St :lol:.People forget that Nigel Johnson played for UVA
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 09, 2024, 09:26:02 AM
Staff must have gone to stealth mode, they didn't let their people spread the word of a visit. Doing yeomans work in here Panda.
they must have saw what happens when twitter/kso gets their hopes up.
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2024, 09:54:03 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 09, 2024, 12:01:41 PM
Good chance it's this guy
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones)
Dropped 30 on Nebraska last year...
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 09, 2024, 12:09:41 PM
Good chance it's this guy
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones)
It is.
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2024, 12:56:33 PM
Good chance it's this guy
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones)
It is.
There are apparently one or two more running around with them, when you find some spare time to stalk them.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 09, 2024, 12:59:01 PM
Good chance it's this guy
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5108104/max-jones)
It is.
There are apparently one or two more running around with them, when you find some spare time to stalk them.
I'll take the case!
Post by: Winters on May 09, 2024, 02:29:55 PM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 09, 2024, 03:19:44 PM
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Post by: pissclams on May 09, 2024, 04:01:11 PM
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2024, 05:26:31 PM
Also, first time actually on campus in a very long time, hot damn KSU is sexy. My kid was blown away.
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 16, 2024, 08:29:20 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2024, 09:03:40 AM
Samford Center too.
You beautiful son of a bitch
Post by: LickNeckey on May 16, 2024, 09:10:31 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on May 16, 2024, 09:16:59 AM
I think there is merit to what Cal has suggested at Arkansas
a full roster may not be beneficial, spend your NIL in places that are retainable/beneficial and get your scout looks from support staff
bring in former players with experience, maturity, and perspective to have around your guys to fill that role
Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2024, 09:25:51 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 16, 2024, 09:30:23 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on May 16, 2024, 10:14:06 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 16, 2024, 10:26:25 AM
in all fairness it seems that @ArtursKalnitis beat him to it
I didn't mean DY said it first. That's just where I saw it.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 16, 2024, 02:42:31 PM
Strange times, strange times...
Post by: Winters on May 16, 2024, 04:10:36 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 16, 2024, 04:12:52 PM
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 16, 2024, 04:37:40 PM
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Post by: LickNeckey on May 16, 2024, 05:26:50 PM
Post by: CNS on May 16, 2024, 06:33:12 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 16, 2024, 07:43:53 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on May 16, 2024, 08:17:34 PM
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 16, 2024, 08:22:43 PM
odds that Kaluma returns?Seems like he did well at the g league elite camp, but I haven't seen anything in a couple days.
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Post by: nicname on May 16, 2024, 09:09:57 PM
Good landing spot for Dai Dai at UVA.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 17, 2024, 01:45:42 AM
odds that Kaluma returns?Seems like he did well at the g league elite camp, but I haven't seen anything in a couple days.
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They invited the top two from the g league combine to the NBA combine and he wasn't one of the invites.
Post by: chum1 on May 17, 2024, 06:23:36 AM
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2024, 06:29:17 AM
Jamir Watkins
Cedric Coward
Wooga Poplar
Post by: LickNeckey on May 17, 2024, 07:11:59 AM
When Kaluma entered the portal, I took that to mean he's gone regardless.
last day of portal entry made me wonder if it was about maximizing leverage.
make sure you have the best possible options regardless
have heard whispers that a return is not ruled out
Post by: Spaces on May 17, 2024, 10:17:52 AM
Current roster update?David Castillo (Fr.)
Baye Fall (So.)
Taj Manning (So.)
Macaleab Rich (So.)
Mobi Ikegwuruka (So.)
CJ Jones (Jr.)
Dug McDaniel (Jr.)
Brendan Hausen (Jr.)
Max Jones (Sr.)
Achor Achor (Sr.)
David N’Guessan (Sr.)
Two open scholarships. Come home Kaluma and grab one more from ww’s wishlist.
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2024, 10:40:05 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 17, 2024, 11:14:03 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 17, 2024, 11:36:38 AM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 17, 2024, 12:09:12 PM
Starters:
PG - Dug
OG/Wing - M Jones
OG/Wing - CJ Jones
Stretch F - AA
F/C - DNG
Rotation:
Castillo
Hausen
Fall
Limited PT:
Rich, Manning, Mobi
Would be nice to see major improvements from Manning and Rich, but I'm not optimistic (especially since Manning's already been in the program two years with seemingly minimal improvement).
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2024, 12:15:33 PM
Post by: Spracne on May 17, 2024, 03:27:16 PM
Here is my wishlist for the last starting spot
Jamir Watkins
Cedric Coward
Wooga Poplar
Don't know any of these people, but based solely on names, I'd go with Wooga.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 17, 2024, 05:22:00 PM
Here is my wishlist for the last starting spot
Jamir Watkins
Cedric Coward
Wooga Poplar
Don't know any of these people, but based solely on names, I'd go with Wooga.
I have to believe when Wooga entered the portal someone said “why don’t you make like a tree, and get outta here!”
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 18, 2024, 01:09:41 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on May 18, 2024, 01:33:22 PM
Here is my wishlist for the last starting spot
Jamir Watkins
Cedric Coward
Wooga Poplar
Don't know any of these people, but based solely on names, I'd go with Wooga.
My initial thoughts as well
Post by: MakeItRain on May 19, 2024, 09:53:17 PM
My wishlist is so we don't have to take Kaluma back.
I'm not sure anyone left is better. I'd like to take a bet on year two of development with this staff.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 01, 2024, 09:34:53 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 03, 2024, 09:44:22 PM
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 03, 2024, 10:04:42 PM
Onyenso, the Kentucky transfer center visited today. The staff was attempting to get a commitment from the 7 foot center. If not, he's going to make up to three more visits.Was picked up in a blacked out 'benz Sprinter. 3maw podcast today was very positive about him.
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Post by: wetwillie on June 03, 2024, 10:08:03 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 04, 2024, 04:06:27 PM
What is the story with the Tylor Perry situation?
Post by: tdaver on June 04, 2024, 04:14:33 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on June 04, 2024, 04:33:04 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 04, 2024, 04:47:15 PM
UK fan friend of mine says the guy we got is good in the post and Coach Cal misused him trying to get him to play 10-15ft from the basket. He's a pure post, great defender/rebounder, with no range.
I just need him to block, dunk, and rebound. He should be able to dunk from 10ft away with his length, so his range isn't fine.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 04, 2024, 04:53:02 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 04, 2024, 08:25:55 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 04, 2024, 08:46:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on June 04, 2024, 10:05:04 PM
We are on Coleman Hawkins watch
I think Kaluma has a higher upside
Post by: pissclams on June 04, 2024, 10:12:58 PM
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 04, 2024, 10:15:37 PM
i saw a probably incorrect article that had kaluma to memphisI saw that too but couldn't go back and find it.
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Post by: nicname on June 04, 2024, 10:25:45 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 04, 2024, 10:56:51 PM
Hates the free market
Post by: MakeItRain on June 05, 2024, 12:53:31 AM
i saw a probably incorrect article that had kaluma to memphisI saw that too but couldn't go back and find it.
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There's the thought that they are in the lead, but he hasn't announced finalists or taken visits
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 05, 2024, 01:00:28 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on June 05, 2024, 05:05:19 AM
'Qwan only measured 6'8" at the combine
https://www.nba.com/draft/2024/prospects/naeqwan-tomlin
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 05, 2024, 08:37:38 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 05, 2024, 08:47:15 AM
Post by: Winters on June 06, 2024, 11:34:49 AM
Would much rather have Kaluma back, imHo.We are on Coleman Hawkins watch
I think Kaluma has a higher upside
Post by: cfbandyman on June 06, 2024, 11:44:12 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 06, 2024, 11:49:37 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 06, 2024, 11:52:42 AM
What will that do to head coaches?
I saw an article earlier saying Kimani Young was likely to be promoted to HC.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 06, 2024, 11:55:01 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 06, 2024, 12:24:55 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 07, 2024, 01:50:17 PM
Trigger warning for those who hate 6'10 guys that shoot 37% from 3
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 08, 2024, 04:24:17 PM
*
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 09, 2024, 08:51:42 PM
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2024, 09:21:27 PM
Post by: pissclams on June 09, 2024, 10:58:48 PM
Are we going to be good good?it’s so hard to say when you’re restarting your roster every year. i will say that ku is absolutely stacked, but also lots of new guys.
Post by: Winters on June 10, 2024, 02:31:48 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 10, 2024, 02:58:29 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 10, 2024, 10:40:38 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on June 10, 2024, 11:26:57 PM
So...safe to assume all those UConn dudes are staying put I would think?Everybody everywhere are staying put. The transfer portal is closed.
Post by: _33 on June 14, 2024, 08:59:06 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 14, 2024, 09:06:21 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 14, 2024, 09:09:09 AM
I think they will ultimately get a deal done, I think there are only a handful of teams left with a scholarship and the money needed to get him. LSU is trying to get one of their incoming freshman to walk on I think to make room for Coleman but it seems like a long shot.
One thing I hadn't considered is how will scholarship caps work when there are nil deals worth more than scholarships? Why couldn't LSU just pay Coleman the nil value plus the cost of tuition?
Post by: chum1 on June 14, 2024, 09:41:06 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 14, 2024, 09:42:50 AM
I think they will ultimately get a deal done, I think there are only a handful of teams left with a scholarship and the money needed to get him. LSU is trying to get one of their incoming freshman to walk on I think to make room for Coleman but it seems like a long shot.
One thing I hadn't considered is how will scholarship caps work when there are nil deals worth more than scholarships? Why couldn't LSU just pay Coleman the nil value plus the cost of tuition?
There is still a rule that you can't go from scholarship to walk on without sitting a year. Our QB Knuth had to do that coming from Minnesota.
Post by: michigancat on June 14, 2024, 09:45:00 AM
I think they will ultimately get a deal done, I think there are only a handful of teams left with a scholarship and the money needed to get him. LSU is trying to get one of their incoming freshman to walk on I think to make room for Coleman but it seems like a long shot.
One thing I hadn't considered is how will scholarship caps work when there are nil deals worth more than scholarships? Why couldn't LSU just pay Coleman the nil value plus the cost of tuition?
There is still a rule that you can't go from scholarship to walk on without sitting a year. Our QB Knuth had to do that coming from Minnesota.
but in theory you could have all incoming freshmen be walk ons with NIL deals?
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 14, 2024, 09:50:59 AM
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1801625038828773387
Funny story I heard about his visit. He wouldn't stop talking to the staff about how much he liked football. Like, he was legitimately taking into account how good the school's fb program/game day experience was when making his decision, and now we just beat out LSU. :gocho:
Post by: cfbandyman on June 14, 2024, 09:53:08 AM
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Post by: ChiComCat on June 14, 2024, 10:30:05 AM
Post by: CNS on June 14, 2024, 10:31:27 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 14, 2024, 10:31:42 AM
Sounds like we paid Hawkins $2 mil! :horrorsurprise:
I thought he said ahead of his visit that that number was a rumor social media ran with and that he expected to take less?
Post by: BMWWcat on June 14, 2024, 10:46:45 AM
Hawkers first said we were poor, now saying we overpaid...typical.
Post by: CHONGS on June 14, 2024, 10:48:55 AM
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 14, 2024, 11:21:35 AM
https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1801639057413304552
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 14, 2024, 11:23:56 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2024, 11:25:25 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 14, 2024, 11:37:49 AM
kinda mid for $2m, tbh
Whoa
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 14, 2024, 11:48:27 AM
CBS Sports and Jeff Goodman said we really did pay north of 2 mil. :eek: Norlander from CBS said: "K-State boasts one of the largest NIL war chests of any program in college basketball." Damn.This will come as a shock to the phoggies, who croak from their small lily pads about how NIL poor we are.
https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1801639057413304552
Post by: Houstoncat93 on June 14, 2024, 12:11:27 PM
CBS Sports and Jeff Goodman said we really did pay north of 2 mil. :eek: Norlander from CBS said: "K-State boasts one of the largest NIL war chests of any program in college basketball." Damn.
https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1801639057413304552
You are welcome guys. My little $9.95 per month contribution to Wildcat NIL is really paying off.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 14, 2024, 12:16:43 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 14, 2024, 12:33:30 PM
kinda mid for $2m, tbh17th ranked metrics player is mid to you?
Post by: pissclams on June 14, 2024, 12:35:22 PM
Yeah, he said himself the $2 million was a rumor.i yearn for their acceptance yet nothing we do seems to be good enough. it’s so damn frustrating. i realize that ku is a blue blood with few peers, but our hawk kansas brothers should be nicer to us.
Hawkers first said we were poor, now saying we overpaid...typical.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 14, 2024, 12:42:17 PM
Post by: Winters on June 14, 2024, 02:24:55 PM
They need a lesson in manners and respect imHoYeah, he said himself the $2 million was a rumor.i yearn for their acceptance yet nothing we do seems to be good enough. it’s so damn frustrating. i realize that ku is a blue blood with few peers, but our hawk kansas brothers should be nicer to us.
Hawkers first said we were poor, now saying we overpaid...typical.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 14, 2024, 02:46:18 PM
Yeah, he said himself the $2 million was a rumor.i yearn for their acceptance yet nothing we do seems to be good enough. it’s so damn frustrating. i realize that ku is a blue blood with few peers, but our hawk kansas brothers should be nicer to us.
Hawkers first said we were poor, now saying we overpaid...typical.
they are total dogshit at the only sport that matters in america but we are elite high flyers in it so this causes them to lash out.
there are NFl guys who lash out at Mahomes/Brady - it is the same
Post by: nicname on June 14, 2024, 02:48:59 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2024, 02:55:10 PM
They need a lesson in manners and respect imHoYeah, he said himself the $2 million was a rumor.i yearn for their acceptance yet nothing we do seems to be good enough. it’s so damn frustrating. i realize that ku is a blue blood with few peers, but our hawk kansas brothers should be nicer to us.
Hawkers first said we were poor, now saying we overpaid...typical.
You can tell they weren't spanked as children
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 14, 2024, 02:59:57 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on June 14, 2024, 03:03:35 PM
I think they will ultimately get a deal done, I think there are only a handful of teams left with a scholarship and the money needed to get him. LSU is trying to get one of their incoming freshman to walk on I think to make room for Coleman but it seems like a long shot.
One thing I hadn't considered is how will scholarship caps work when there are nil deals worth more than scholarships? Why couldn't LSU just pay Coleman the nil value plus the cost of tuition?
There is still a rule that you can't go from scholarship to walk on without sitting a year. Our QB Knuth had to do that coming from Minnesota.
but in theory you could have all incoming freshmen be walk ons with NIL deals?
Yes, we do this in football. It's about to be grand opening/grand closing on this though as walk-ons are about to go bye bye.
Post by: pissclams on June 15, 2024, 06:05:54 AM
i’m not obtuse enough to not know that it’s really always been about the money, and now that money is just flowing to a different (better) place, but this view is very unappealing to me.
i can sense that me being a fan of college sports is officially on the clock.
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2024, 07:06:08 AM
Post by: nicname on June 15, 2024, 07:20:52 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 15, 2024, 07:28:14 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2024, 07:31:24 AM
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Post by: chum1 on June 15, 2024, 08:37:03 AM
Post by: Pete on June 15, 2024, 08:46:03 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on June 15, 2024, 09:10:55 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2024, 09:35:31 AM
Yeah, happy they're getting paid, but it's like pro sports (for me). The distance (which was always a distance given all the perks they had vs a normal student) keeps getting greater from them being a student of the school.
Pro sports will have much more continuity now because so many players have multi-year contracts.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 15, 2024, 09:49:42 AM
Post by: pissclams on June 15, 2024, 10:03:38 AM
Bye Feliciaif I was a fan of a league and especially so a team that will need a substantial amount of fans to support itself, i would be concerned about turning off its fans.
the tide will be turning away from this model and it’s going to have a compounding effect.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 15, 2024, 10:03:50 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 15, 2024, 10:30:42 AM
Doom will be poppin' next year and games will be fun. Tang has already said he will have to approach non-con games in a new light since computer ranking care about how much a team wins by. No more OT games and those paycheck non-con teams will get run. Hawkins and Dickinson will dust up social media like pro wrestling. The level of competition in the Big 12 is going to be overwhelming.Bye Feliciaif I was a fan of a league and especially so a team that will need a substantial amount of fans to support itself, i would be concerned about turning off its fans.
the tide will be turning away from this model and it’s going to have a compounding effect.
What I see fans really having no patience with is lack of hustle or commitment.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 15, 2024, 11:02:30 AM
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While I agree with this on principle, the real question isn't whether Coleman Hawkins is worth it. The real $2M question is how desperate is Pooty to salvage the season by paying anybody decent absurd amounts of money to go there.
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Some are talking about Hawkins at the 3 which would be really funny
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What theydon't report is that the 2 million is in farm acreage and a prize winning bull.Quote
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What they don't report is that the 2 million is in farm acreage and a prize winning bull.
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He averaged 12 & 6… ‘A LOT’ better is some. Alrighty then logic and KSU spent $2m on that. More like ‘A LOT’ of stupidity
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Yeah, just took a quick glance at the lineup thread in their VIP board and the first poster has Achor, Hawks and Onyenso as the 3-4-5. Talented team but the roster construction is not exactly very 2024.
(again the absence of know sex offenders stands out to the knowledgeable phoggie)
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So K-State can pay $2 million for a mediocre forward, but can't spend $150 for a body for their $hitty mascot?
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Their NIL strategy does seem to be to put all their cash on 1 or 2 big players. Goldilocks on their football team is the other big example.(the photo of Avery and Mahomes broke them, I think)
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Mess around with enough sheep and he will definitely get the “clapper”(the obligatory sheep rough ridin' post.)
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Frankly, all this money talk, whether legit or not, makes him a marked man, in my opinion. Pretty sure Dickinson will have plenty to "say" on the court in our games against K-State to prove Hawkins is no "Two Million Dollar Man" . . . and not even close to it.oooohh Dickinson.
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aterville has been paying players for years. It's just legal now and not just with sheep and chickens.Yeah, oscar Weber, known CBB bag man.
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I remember when their recruiting slush fund account was discovered around the time Ron Prince was fired. Of course no NCAA investigation because nobody cares about the.There's dumbasses, and then there's the special kind of phog dumbasses.
And finally an honest post that admits to the trigger of all this vitriol:
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting a little tired of K-State being good at every major sport.
Post by: pissclams on June 15, 2024, 12:03:27 PM
it will be popping next year. and probably the year after that. but this shift in dynamic will erode the support away.Doom will be poppin' next year and games will be fun. Tang has already said he will have to approach non-con games in a new light since computer ranking care about how much a team wins by. No more OT games and those paycheck non-con teams will get run. Hawkins and Dickinson will dust up social media like pro wrestling. The level of competition in the Big 12 is going to be overwhelming.Bye Feliciaif I was a fan of a league and especially so a team that will need a substantial amount of fans to support itself, i would be concerned about turning off its fans.
the tide will be turning away from this model and it’s going to have a compounding effect.
What I see fans really having no patience with is lack of hustle or commitment.
it’s unsustainable and anyone who thinks that people are going to continue pumping their hard earned money into NIL deals, the majority of which aren’t going to deliver the desired results, is wrong.
there’s going to be a lot of buyer’s remorse after the newness wears off.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 15, 2024, 12:15:03 PM
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2024, 01:44:35 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 15, 2024, 02:11:45 PM
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2024, 02:40:49 PM
Good news! You can be in the other half of the fan base that just likes fast pace dunk shots!
Post by: MakeItRain on June 15, 2024, 03:29:46 PM
I think there is a 50/50 chance the self hate and insecurity in our fanbase will ensure long term pumping into the NIL because of KU. One thing is for sure about a lot of kstaters, and probably most fanbases, they are insecure as eff and will gladly pay a crap ton of money to beat their rival and to dominate those they perceive as under them.
I mean I get what you're saying here, but college sports wouldn't be what it is without those people. I'm not one of those people, but if you don't have that passion and hate, I don't even know what the purpose of college athletics is. The product is worse than minor league sports.
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 15, 2024, 04:06:17 PM
And don't get me wrong, I absolutely think players deserved to get paid. Quite frankly the NCAA needs to establish a trust and make back payments to all the kids whom they made literal billions off of without giving them so much as a red cent.
But there was probably a better way to allow athletes to be compensated above board that didn't entirely bastardize the, let's call it "recruitment/retention" aspect of the game
Post by: Katpappy on June 15, 2024, 04:43:21 PM
I already didn’t watch basketball
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Agree completely. I don't even bother to read this blog, but hearing about BB NIL group(s) paying this kid north of 2 mil. follows along that in '22 the Big XII had the highest amount of payouts over all the other so-called Supper 2 conferences. NIL is for real and it's not going away.
Post by: Katpappy on June 15, 2024, 05:00:43 PM
Just my humble opinion but I think what a lot of ppl here are grappling with is that for most of their lives, college sports did, at least in appearance, have something to do with the actual University other than being in the same geographical location. And now it's just blatantly obvious that when a player chooses to come here, it has absolutely nothing to do with the University itself and is purely a business decision. I mean I suppose to some degree the coach(es) will have some sway on where they choose to go but I think the days of the player spending their entire (or even the majority) of their playing career at a single school are long gone.
And don't get me wrong, I absolutely think players deserved to get paid. Quite frankly the NCAA needs to establish a trust and make back payments to all the kids whom they made literal billions off of without giving them so much as a red cent.
But there was probably a better way to allow athletes to be compensated above board that didn't entirely bastardize the, let's call it "recruitment/retention" aspect of the game
Not only did the NCAA(university presidents) fuc...ed these kids out of money, but also ruined some of these student's careers. These are the ones that should have separate lawsuits for damages. Also, the students that were injured and were crippled for life should be suing the frick out of these assholes.
Post by: Spracne on June 15, 2024, 05:44:09 PM
Just my humble opinion but I think what a lot of ppl here are grappling with is that for most of their lives, college sports did, at least in appearance, have something to do with the actual University other than being in the same geographical location. And now it's just blatantly obvious that when a player chooses to come here, it has absolutely nothing to do with the University itself and is purely a business decision. I mean I suppose to some degree the coach(es) will have some sway on where they choose to go but I think the days of the player spending their entire (or even the majority) of their playing career at a single school are long gone.
And don't get me wrong, I absolutely think players deserved to get paid. Quite frankly the NCAA needs to establish a trust and make back payments to all the kids whom they made literal billions off of without giving them so much as a red cent.
But there was probably a better way to allow athletes to be compensated above board that didn't entirely bastardize the, let's call it "recruitment/retention" aspect of the game
Maybe we should all get weirdly into Ivy League sports.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2024, 05:59:06 PM
Just my humble opinion but I think what a lot of ppl here are grappling with is that for most of their lives, college sports did, at least in appearance, have something to do with the actual University other than being in the same geographical location. And now it's just blatantly obvious that when a player chooses to come here, it has absolutely nothing to do with the University itself and is purely a business decision. I mean I suppose to some degree the coach(es) will have some sway on where they choose to go but I think the days of the player spending their entire (or even the majority) of their playing career at a single school are long gone.
And don't get me wrong, I absolutely think players deserved to get paid. Quite frankly the NCAA needs to establish a trust and make back payments to all the kids whom they made literal billions off of without giving them so much as a red cent.
But there was probably a better way to allow athletes to be compensated above board that didn't entirely bastardize the, let's call it "recruitment/retention" aspect of the game
Maybe we should all get weirdly into Ivy League sports.
Nah, I'm good.
Post by: Spracne on June 15, 2024, 06:09:34 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2024, 06:17:13 PM
I mean, it seems like a college sports purist's dream.
The SEC is more pure than they are.
Post by: pissclams on June 28, 2024, 06:53:34 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on June 28, 2024, 12:22:44 PM
Am I supposed to be impressed with the other Texas transfers?
yeah
Post by: CNS on July 29, 2024, 12:21:39 PM
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COLUMBUS — Ohio State is adding Kansas State grad transfer Ques Glover for the 2024-25 campaign. Glover joins the Buckeyes after redshirting last season, his lone season with the Wildcats. Before that, he starred for two years at Samford. He spent the first two seasons of his college career at Florida.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 29, 2024, 01:37:10 PM
His last name always gave me hope that he would be awesome at defense. Could he defend like THE Glove?QuoteCOLUMBUS — Ohio State is adding Kansas State grad transfer Ques Glover for the 2024-25 campaign. Glover joins the Buckeyes after redshirting last season, his lone season with the Wildcats. Before that, he starred for two years at Samford. He spent the first two seasons of his college career at Florida.
Post by: wetwillie on July 29, 2024, 02:02:50 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 27, 2025, 01:43:35 PM
Haven't heard about anyone portalling out of MHK yet.
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2025, 02:02:06 PM
So Stirtz is about to get paid.
Haven't heard about anyone portalling out of MHK yet.
Rich/Uso/Fall
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2025, 03:03:51 PM
Are we getting Stirtz?
Anyone else being discussed? This place is a rough ridin' wasteland.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 27, 2025, 03:17:55 PM
Say more.They are saying he is going to Iowa.
Are we getting Stirtz?
Anyone else being discussed? This place is a rough ridin' wasteland.
I haven't heard anyone say K-State has a shot at getting him. Seems like that would take a large portion of our NIL wad.
Rumblings that Tang and Co may be looking overseas for dudes.
Post by: KST8FAN on March 27, 2025, 03:42:59 PM
Going to need the investment thread gurus to assess this.Say more.They are saying he is going to Iowa.
Are we getting Stirtz?
Anyone else being discussed? This place is a rough ridin' wasteland.
I haven't heard anyone say K-State has a shot at getting him. Seems like that would take a large portion of our NIL wad.
Rumblings that Tang and Co may be looking overseas for dudes.
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Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 27, 2025, 06:54:12 PM
Seem to be lots of tall guys in Australia. How is our currency doing vs the Aussie dollar. Maybe we could portal in the next Luc Longley using our US dollar Bucks.Going to need the investment thread gurus to assess this.Say more.They are saying he is going to Iowa.
Are we getting Stirtz?
Anyone else being discussed? This place is a rough ridin' wasteland.
I haven't heard anyone say K-State has a shot at getting him. Seems like that would take a large portion of our NIL wad.
Rumblings that Tang and Co may be looking overseas for dudes.
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Post by: steve dave on March 28, 2025, 09:10:29 AM
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 28, 2025, 11:03:55 AM
hearing that meetings are taking place this week and transfers should start trickling out of the program early next week
the townie narrative of how many to expect has changed since the weekend
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2025, 11:06:17 AM
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2025, 11:07:57 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 29, 2025, 08:25:24 AM
Past years would indicate everybody is transferring except Taj Manning and someone else.safe bet
Here's hoping that we start keeping and developing kids and that the portal is used for a much smaller number of adds a year.:thumbs:
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2025, 05:11:13 PM
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2025, 05:11:39 PM
counterpoint: an entire new team via portal every year is fun in a different way!
like, for example, when your entire current roster sucks bigtime ass!
Post by: CNS on March 29, 2025, 06:22:45 PM
counterpoint: an entire new team via portal every year is fun in a different way!
like, for example, when your entire current roster sucks bigtime ass!
If you are talking like a curtesy flush after a surprisingly crappy experience, I am ok with that but otherwise would like to start keeping some folks around that can grown and develop.
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2025, 06:35:37 PM
Post by: tdaver on March 29, 2025, 06:53:59 PM
CJ - ?
Mobi
Castillo
Hausen
Taj
Baye - portal
Buddy - portal
Ugo - portal
We’re gonna need some bigs
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 30, 2025, 07:15:44 PM
DugThe only departing player I'll regret is Rich, but he did it to himself. I have no problem with CJ leaving either. I was think we could recruit over him.
CJ - ?
Mobi
Castillo
Hausen
Taj
Baye - portal
Buddy - portal
Ugo - portal
We’re gonna need some bigs
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 03, 2025, 02:19:38 PM
Post by: Winters on April 07, 2025, 03:03:54 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2025, 03:33:55 PM
Hausen :frown:SHOOT. AND i will MISS him
i hope he FINDS A SHOT to play elsewhere
there’s no defending his desire to leave
Post by: nicname on April 07, 2025, 03:37:06 PM
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1909335730922340368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1909335730922340368%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Post by: Winters on April 07, 2025, 03:47:13 PM
Looks like we’re replacing Hausen w/ a 6-7 dude who chucked over ten threes a game at Monmouth this season.Okay, this is good :ksu:
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1909335730922340368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1909335730922340368%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 07, 2025, 04:10:05 PM
Couple of European guys we're in on would also have taken minutes from Hausen.
Post by: wetwillie on April 07, 2025, 04:33:33 PM
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2025, 06:29:54 PM
Adding a guard that averaged more turnovers than assists certainly tracks
Does it?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 08, 2025, 09:38:35 AM
10/10Hausen :frown:SHOOT. AND i will MISS him
i hope he FINDS A SHOT to play elsewhere
there’s no defending his desire to leave
Post by: catastrophe on April 08, 2025, 10:22:53 AM
Looks like we’re replacing Hausen w/ a 6-7 dude who chucked over ten threes a game at Monmouth this season.Okay, this is good :ksu:
https://x.com/TiptonEdits/status/1909335730922340368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1909335730922340368%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
I would love to see a high scoring Cats team, even if the margin of victory is the same as prior (good) Frank/oscar/Tang seasons. Having a defensive identity is kinda boring.
Post by: nicname on April 09, 2025, 12:25:59 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2025, 09:07:05 AM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 09, 2025, 09:44:25 AM
If you're a Houston enjoyer you should love it, granted he stays healthy. He's a prototypical Sampson player. Dude is going to be all big 12 next year.
I'm not thought, MIR. I'm a K-State Wildcats enjoyer. I don't GAF about Pop Isaacs AT ALL!!!
Post by: MakeItRain on April 09, 2025, 10:50:50 AM
If you're a Houston enjoyer you should love it, granted he stays healthy. He's a prototypical Sampson player. Dude is going to be all big 12 next year.
I'm not thought, MIR. I'm a K-State Wildcats enjoyer. I don't GAF about Pop Isaacs AT ALL!!!
yeah, I hate it. I thought we were done with that dude :frown:
Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2025, 03:14:48 PM
a lot of our mutual friends have been calling you “pop isaacs” behind your back for years. i’m glad it’s out in the open.If you're a Houston enjoyer you should love it, granted he stays healthy. He's a prototypical Sampson player. Dude is going to be all big 12 next year.
I'm not thought, MIR. I'm a K-State Wildcats enjoyer. I don't GAF about Pop Isaacs AT ALL!!!
Post by: ChiComCat on April 09, 2025, 03:39:26 PM
a lot of our mutual friends have been calling you “pop isaacs” behind your back for years. i’m glad it’s out in the open.If you're a Houston enjoyer you should love it, granted he stays healthy. He's a prototypical Sampson player. Dude is going to be all big 12 next year.
I'm not thought, MIR. I'm a K-State Wildcats enjoyer. I don't GAF about Pop Isaacs AT ALL!!!
Popsie60
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 09, 2025, 06:09:22 PM
a lot of our mutual friends have been calling you “pop isaacs” behind your back for years. i’m glad it’s out in the open.If you're a Houston enjoyer you should love it, granted he stays healthy. He's a prototypical Sampson player. Dude is going to be all big 12 next year.
I'm not thought, MIR. I'm a K-State Wildcats enjoyer. I don't GAF about Pop Isaacs AT ALL!!!
Well this is troubling news.
Post by: nicname on April 09, 2025, 06:12:48 PM
If you're a Houston enjoyer you should love it, granted he stays healthy. He's a prototypical Sampson player. Dude is going to be all big 12 next year.
I'm not thought, MIR. I'm a K-State Wildcats enjoyer. I don't GAF about Pop Isaacs AT ALL!!!
yeah, I hate it. I thought we were done with that dude :frown:
Hopefully it won’t be hard to enjoy Houston w/ Isaacs, but I have my doubts. Hopefully we will be good and it won’t matter!
Post by: Winters on April 14, 2025, 03:18:26 PM
Post by: Spaces on April 14, 2025, 05:57:49 PM
Post by: CNS on April 14, 2025, 06:05:10 PM
Dug is gone
God damn it. For real?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 14, 2025, 08:26:32 PM
Dug is gone
God damn it. For real?
Appears real
Post by: LickNeckey on April 14, 2025, 09:06:46 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2025, 09:19:26 PM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 14, 2025, 09:42:57 PM
Post by: Cire on April 14, 2025, 09:47:20 PM
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Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2025, 08:34:12 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 15, 2025, 08:34:42 AM
This is dumb. What does this team even mean to anyone? It is about nothing and nobody and no place.The full realization of NIL. The no-rules anarchy that fuels the SEC and BIG.
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2025, 08:54:37 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 15, 2025, 09:58:35 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on April 15, 2025, 10:51:58 AM
it failed!
liked the pivot to player retention
not looking good!
Post by: Justwin on April 15, 2025, 10:54:29 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on April 15, 2025, 11:27:33 AM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.With buyout clauses
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Post by: catastrophe on April 15, 2025, 11:37:28 AM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2025, 11:48:07 AM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2025, 12:06:52 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2025, 12:12:20 PM
if I was a college coach, i’d be looking for a new line of work
A lot of other 4M per year basketball coaching gigs?
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2025, 12:15:47 PM
Anyone heard of any other incoming folks? I saw something yesterday that we offered the Knueppel and he declined to stay at Duke. Not sure if real or fake.
We are getting two euro players Gru and Rapieque and landed what I think is a backup post player from UNCW in McGriff. They are trying to get the Smith guy from Memphis a waiver that came mid year to be able to play next year.
Post by: Justwin on April 15, 2025, 12:42:03 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
If you end up not being very good, you still get your money.
In my mind I am also thinking long-term contracts where players are paid directly by the school. It's where it's all headed.
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2025, 12:46:51 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
If you end up not being very good, you still get your money.
In my mind I am also thinking long-term contracts where players are paid directly by the school. It's where it's all headed.
catastrophe specifically called out buyouts if you don't perform or leave early
Post by: catastrophe on April 15, 2025, 01:04:24 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
Guaranteed cash for multiple years, with the ability to renegotiate if you perform above expectations--same as coaches.
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2025, 01:20:31 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
Guaranteed cash for multiple years, with the ability to renegotiate if you perform above expectations--same as coaches.
how is it guaranteed cash if you have to pay it back if you don't hit certain performance metrics?
Post by: Justwin on April 15, 2025, 01:31:39 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
Guaranteed cash for multiple years, with the ability to renegotiate if you perform above expectations--same as coaches.
how is it guaranteed cash if you have to pay it back if you don't hit certain performance metrics?
I don't think paying money back if you don't hit certain performance metrics will ever happen.
Post by: catastrophe on April 15, 2025, 01:36:28 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
Guaranteed cash for multiple years, with the ability to renegotiate if you perform above expectations--same as coaches.
how is it guaranteed cash if you have to pay it back if you don't hit certain performance metrics?
It's not that hard to use your imagination here. You can structure the contract however you want, and I'm sure it would end up looking similar to a professional coach or player contract. You earn some lower amount of guaranteed money, with a bunch of added performance based incentives.
The "pay it back" would largely come into play either on transferring or failing to adhere to code of conduct, whatever. You could also advance some of the incentives with the possibility of taking the balance off of other guaranteed money or deals if they failed to hit the requirement.
The details are all besides the point, though, because contracts are pretty much whatever both sides will agree to. My point is it's a no-brainer in any business model to try to lock up talent with long-term money incentives, so I'm curious whether it is technically illegal or whether major programs just haven't figured out how to do it yet.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 15, 2025, 02:10:51 PM
The main thing that needs to change is having long-term contracts.
Is there a prohibition against these? It seems like a no-brainer. At a minimum you tie up the NIL money to a 2-3 year commitment and they have to pay it back if they transfer early or don't hit certain performance metrics, etc. etc.
What's the advantage to the player in the scenario you describe?
Guaranteed cash for multiple years, with the ability to renegotiate if you perform above expectations--same as coaches.
how is it guaranteed cash if you have to pay it back if you don't hit certain performance metrics?
It's not that hard to use your imagination here. You can structure the contract however you want, and I'm sure it would end up looking similar to a professional coach or player contract. You earn some lower amount of guaranteed money, with a bunch of added performance based incentives.
The "pay it back" would largely come into play either on transferring or failing to adhere to code of conduct, whatever. You could also advance some of the incentives with the possibility of taking the balance off of other guaranteed money or deals if they failed to hit the requirement.
The details are all besides the point, though, because contracts are pretty much whatever both sides will agree to. My point is it's a no-brainer in any business model to try to lock up talent with long-term money incentives, so I'm curious whether it is technically illegal or whether major programs just haven't figured out how to do it yet.
I think when you have a hundred programs competing for the services of a player, it's hard to get a player to sign something potentially punitive. Even if you get them to agree to it, the upside is the opportunity to sue a former player, all while trying to convince 10 others to come and play for you.
Post by: catastrophe on April 15, 2025, 02:21:44 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 15, 2025, 03:24:15 PM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 15, 2025, 03:39:35 PM
I know this is incredibly obvious stuff but clearly the people in charge of rolling out NIL failed to think of it or they don’t understand what being a sports fan is.
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2025, 05:58:21 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2025, 10:11:55 PM
traditional coaching isn’t worth $4M a year anymore.if I was a college coach, i’d be looking for a new line of work
A lot of other 4M per year basketball coaching gigs?
hire a $500k coach and increase NIL with the rest to assemble the best players you can afford.
Post by: ChiComCat on April 16, 2025, 09:45:30 AM
There's nothing punitive about it. Surely you have heard people distinguishing between guaranteed and unguaranteed money in a contract valued at $X.
The "pay it back" in your original post makes me think you're paying them and then trying to claw it back when they transfer, which I don't think would work.
An incentive-laden contract would be a better alternative, but I still struggle to think it will work. With the money coming from anywhere, some car-dealing booster somewhere will guarantee the kid dough.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 16, 2025, 10:38:05 AM
None of the money has to be accounted for by the athletic department, correct? I mean Purple Wave auctions could just pay a player $1,000,000 to appear in some adds with no strings attached, right?There's nothing punitive about it. Surely you have heard people distinguishing between guaranteed and unguaranteed money in a contract valued at $X.
The "pay it back" in your original post makes me think you're paying them and then trying to claw it back when they transfer, which I don't think would work.
An incentive-laden contract would be a better alternative, but I still struggle to think it will work. With the money coming from anywhere, some car-dealing booster somewhere will guarantee the kid dough.
Post by: CNS on April 16, 2025, 10:50:31 AM
None of the money has to be accounted for by the athletic department, correct? I mean Purple Wave auctions could just pay a player $1,000,000 to appear in some adds with no strings attached, right?There's nothing punitive about it. Surely you have heard people distinguishing between guaranteed and unguaranteed money in a contract valued at $X.
The "pay it back" in your original post makes me think you're paying them and then trying to claw it back when they transfer, which I don't think would work.
An incentive-laden contract would be a better alternative, but I still struggle to think it will work. With the money coming from anywhere, some car-dealing booster somewhere will guarantee the kid dough.
For this reason, I don't think it possible for schools to regulate at this point.
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 16, 2025, 12:43:55 PM
None of the money has to be accounted for by the athletic department, correct? I mean Purple Wave auctions could just pay a player $1,000,000 to appear in some adds with no strings attached, right?There's nothing punitive about it. Surely you have heard people distinguishing between guaranteed and unguaranteed money in a contract valued at $X.
The "pay it back" in your original post makes me think you're paying them and then trying to claw it back when they transfer, which I don't think would work.
An incentive-laden contract would be a better alternative, but I still struggle to think it will work. With the money coming from anywhere, some car-dealing booster somewhere will guarantee the kid dough.
For this reason, I don't think it possible for schools to regulate at this point.
Under the proposed House settlement, there would be a clearinghouse for all NIL that would be managed by Deloitte. The bean counters would determine if any NIL agreements would meet fair market value and would have the authority to nullify any agreements that they deem unreasonable ($1 million to appear in a 30 second ad for Purple Wave auctions, etc.).
That's all fine and good, but the big schools can't help themselves and so somebody like Tennessee - which already sued the NCAA over this kind of thing - will just do it again when they're denied and the house of cards will crumble again.
The NCAA can be blamed for loads of things (including not trying to get ahead of this 20 years ago), but it's not their fault member schools/boosters/athletes only care about themselves and will file as many lawsuits as it takes to get what they want regardless of the wider implications.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2025, 03:50:02 PM
None of the money has to be accounted for by the athletic department, correct? I mean Purple Wave auctions could just pay a player $1,000,000 to appear in some adds with no strings attached, right?There's nothing punitive about it. Surely you have heard people distinguishing between guaranteed and unguaranteed money in a contract valued at $X.
The "pay it back" in your original post makes me think you're paying them and then trying to claw it back when they transfer, which I don't think would work.
An incentive-laden contract would be a better alternative, but I still struggle to think it will work. With the money coming from anywhere, some car-dealing booster somewhere will guarantee the kid dough.
For this reason, I don't think it possible for schools to regulate at this point.
Under the proposed House settlement, there would be a clearinghouse for all NIL that would be managed by Deloitte. The bean counters would determine if any NIL agreements would meet fair market value and would have the authority to nullify any agreements that they deem unreasonable ($1 million to appear in a 30 second ad for Purple Wave auctions, etc.).
That's all fine and good, but the big schools can't help themselves and so somebody like Tennessee - which already sued the NCAA over this kind of thing - will just do it again when they're denied and the house of cards will crumble again.
The NCAA can be blamed for loads of things (including not trying to get ahead of this 20 years ago), but it's not their fault member schools/boosters/athletes only care about themselves and will file as many lawsuits as it takes to get what they want regardless of the wider implications.
That's it right there. The school presidents and the AD's need to be completely taken out of the equation in terms of setting numerous rules in the oversight domain of college athletics. A college sports czar needs to be named and he/she needs a capable legal team to navigate this so the organization - in whatever form, can fend off any legal challenges to limitations on NIL. I don't pretend to know all the nuances, but from what I've heard the fastest path to reigning this in is employment/collective bargaining.
Post by: Spaces on April 16, 2025, 06:23:15 PM
Current roster:
Exavier Wilson (Fr.)
David Castillo (So.)
Abdi Bashir Jr. (Jr.)
Taj Manning (Jr.)
Mobi Ikegwuruka (Jr.)
C.J. Jones (Sr.)
Khamari McGriff (Sr.)
*Max Jones (Gr.) - waiting on waiver, status unclear
*Tyreek Smith (Gr.) - waiting on waiver, status unclear
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2025, 11:10:49 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 17, 2025, 12:17:18 AM
Post by: CNS on April 17, 2025, 07:37:00 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2025, 07:55:19 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 17, 2025, 08:21:03 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on April 17, 2025, 10:13:26 AM
So who do you guys think our next coach will be? Are we going to be out of money to reach out to Brad again? Maybe we reach out to Coach K and tell him he could really prove his greatness by coming to a place where the cupboards are bare and winning an NC. Does Frank want to run it back? Is Shane close to being a HC yet?
Clent Stewart so we can retain the player on our roster
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 17, 2025, 11:28:00 AM
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2025, 12:32:58 PM
Seems like Baylor is struggling as well and have turned their entire roster over.
Yeah I don't think this is a problem unique to us. But who knows. Wake me up when the season starts. (Maybe)
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 17, 2025, 12:41:19 PM
It's going to be Euros and mid major guys.
If you swap out Euro for Aussies - Florida just won a title with this approach.
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 17, 2025, 01:10:36 PM
Seems like Baylor is struggling as well and have turned their entire roster over.That's incredible. Drew has always seemed like a "player's coach" from what I can gather.
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2025, 01:16:10 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on April 17, 2025, 01:54:15 PM
I like the euro strategy fwiw, I think it's smart.
Get a bunch of former Yugo slavs over here and dominate.
Post by: LickNeckey on April 17, 2025, 04:03:13 PM
I like the euro strategy fwiw, I think it's smart.
*Maybe
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2025, 05:39:56 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 17, 2025, 06:40:24 PM
we just need to hold tight while this staff figures it all out. although I have lost some confidence in their coaching ability that is all fixed with proper roster purchases in the free agent market.
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2025, 07:42:18 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 17, 2025, 09:02:16 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 17, 2025, 09:14:45 PM
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 18, 2025, 04:30:18 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 18, 2025, 09:27:38 AM
Don't be a dumbass, we are about to land this guy.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
ok serious question is it even possible for an athlete with any sort of muscle mass whatsoever to be 6'7 and 195 lbs? The only person i'm aware of that is 6'7 and 195 is Donald J. Trump
Post by: mocat on April 18, 2025, 09:51:21 AM
Don't be a dumbass, we are about to land this guy.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
ok serious question is it even possible for an athlete with any sort of muscle mass whatsoever to be 6'7 and 195 lbs? The only person i'm aware of that is 6'7 and 195 is Donald J. Trump
Wemby whenever he was 6'-7"
Post by: wetwillie on April 18, 2025, 10:15:41 AM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 18, 2025, 11:47:59 AM
Don't be a dumbass, we are about to land this guy.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
ok serious question is it even possible for an athlete with any sort of muscle mass whatsoever to be 6'7 and 195 lbs? The only person i'm aware of that is 6'7 and 195 is Donald J. Trump
On behalf of all White Tiger fans, we are greatly offended by this question
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 18, 2025, 12:05:48 PM
Chet Holmgren is listed at 7' 1" and 208lbs. He looks like puke but is a pretty decent basketball player.Don't be a dumbass, we are about to land this guy.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
ok serious question is it even possible for an athlete with any sort of muscle mass whatsoever to be 6'7 and 195 lbs? The only person i'm aware of that is 6'7 and 195 is Donald J. Trump
Post by: nicname on April 18, 2025, 01:12:55 PM
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Post by: nicname on April 18, 2025, 09:23:31 PM
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Post by: bucket on April 18, 2025, 09:38:57 PM
Chet Holmgren is listed at 7' 1" and 208lbs. He looks like puke but is a pretty decent basketball player.Don't be a dumbass, we are about to land this guy.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
ok serious question is it even possible for an athlete with any sort of muscle mass whatsoever to be 6'7 and 195 lbs? The only person i'm aware of that is 6'7 and 195 is Donald J. Trump
LaMelo Ball
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 19, 2025, 10:01:42 AM
Don't be a dumbass, we are about to land this guy.
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/ (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrej-kostic/)
ok serious question is it even possible for an athlete with any sort of muscle mass whatsoever to be 6'7 and 195 lbs? The only person i'm aware of that is 6'7 and 195 is Donald J. Trump
On behalf of all White Tiger fans, we are greatly offended by this question
From the kstate website he was listed at 6’-10” 210 lbs. I realize that would scale to 5 lbs per inch of height which seems reasonable but I’m telling you there is a barrier at the 200 lb mark. It’s like a sonic boom to be tall and also less than 200 lbs
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2025, 10:07:44 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 19, 2025, 10:15:58 AM
How do you feel about 6'7 160 pounds?
That’s taking Conan O’Brien, stretching him 3” taller, while also having him undergo chemotherapy for 6 months
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2025, 10:24:22 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5174959/abdi-bashir-jr (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5174959/abdi-bashir-jr)
Post by: nicname on April 19, 2025, 12:01:37 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 19, 2025, 01:22:45 PM
How do you feel about 6'7 160 pounds?hard to figure out those numbers
i’m 6’7” 215 and can’t imagine playing d1 at 160.
even back in my playing days when I was dunking on sys on the regular, I think I was cooking around 190-200
Post by: wetwillie on April 20, 2025, 09:21:29 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4898278/nate-johnson (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4898278/nate-johnson)
Post by: MakeItRain on April 20, 2025, 11:00:24 PM
Scott Wildcat was saying that we should go full international. Go hire an associate head coach with extensive international experience and load the roster up with foreign players. I think we're pretty desperate and grasping at straws at this point.
We're going to get a couple, but even with this we still have to buy them out of their contracts then pay them too.
Post by: nicname on April 21, 2025, 12:41:23 AM
Post by: pissclams on April 21, 2025, 11:28:57 AM
Is Scott Greenwalt available?i’d like for steroids to be legal in the NIL era, but only for NIL athletes.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 21, 2025, 12:44:39 PM
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Post by: CNS on April 22, 2025, 11:27:05 AM
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on April 22, 2025, 12:51:50 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2025, 12:54:22 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 23, 2025, 01:10:55 AM
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2025, 12:01:33 PM
Johnson is the only one who's proven he has the chops, in my view. Abdi is a solid maybe, but I question how well he fits on the floor with Johnson. get the Serbian kid and I'll feel much better.
Kostic and Bashir were fringe NBA second round prospects heading into this year, but go off King.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 24, 2025, 04:04:48 PM
Post by: Fyodor on April 29, 2025, 05:06:24 PM
They haven't signed yet. I'll acknowledge them, especially Kostic, when the commit.Get your dick out 'fried. A Serbian (possibly Kostic?) has committed.
Post by: EMAWzifried on April 29, 2025, 06:00:21 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2025, 08:38:42 PM
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2025, 08:45:03 PM
Ig was Kostic. Looking good. Needs some bigs and lets kick some ass.
We already have our two bigs on the roster
Post by: LickNeckey on April 30, 2025, 07:06:39 AM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on April 30, 2025, 08:16:05 AM
how many dinar is this bro getting?
Allegedly $1 million
Post by: Trim on April 30, 2025, 02:24:21 PM
Post by: pissclams on April 30, 2025, 05:20:25 PM
so, about $9,700? very affordablehow many dinar is this bro getting?
Allegedly $1 million
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on April 30, 2025, 08:32:23 PM
so, about $9,700? very affordablehow many dinar is this bro getting?
Allegedly $1 million
That’s like 252,000 dong. And that’s a lotta dong!
Post by: chum1 on April 30, 2025, 10:04:39 PM
https://amp.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article305402666.html
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time to rip out the big johnson t-shirts
Hell yes
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on May 26, 2025, 08:07:08 PM
Hot damn. We might be back.
William, relax.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 26, 2025, 08:24:38 PM
FYI, phog is divided over whether this helps us or not. Everybody is pointing to Hawkins when they should be city Keyonte Johnson. I wonder if part of his incentive is a nice payday for winning in Allen?
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 26, 2025, 09:53:54 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 26, 2025, 09:57:15 PM
Hot damn. We might be back.
William, relax.
If landing the #3 player in the portal isn't reason for excitement, might be time to call the Low T clinic. #zapped
Post by: MakeItRain on May 26, 2025, 10:15:52 PM
Haggerty and Nate Johnson get to the line at an amazing rate. But the new assistant wants to fire up threes and neither are really great from range. Haggerty does rebound very well for a guard, with more than 5 a game.
FYI, phog is divided over whether this helps us or not. Everybody is pointing to Hawkins when they should be city Keyonte Johnson. I wonder if part of his incentive is a nice payday for winning in Allen?
1. Stay off the phog
2. We have shooters, we don't need the point guard to do it. Abdi Bashir and Marcus Johnson made 200 3s off of nearly 40% between the two of them last season.
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 26, 2025, 10:35:01 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 26, 2025, 10:43:35 PM
I feel like "we have good 3pt shooters this year" is to K-State basketball what "we have a good transfer receiver this year" is to K-State football.Lollers. Sad but true. I choose to be upbeat, tho. Bringing in an All-American has to be a good thing.
Post by: ben ji on May 26, 2025, 11:32:43 PM
Post by: CNS on May 27, 2025, 07:43:58 AM
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 27, 2025, 09:10:25 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 27, 2025, 09:51:38 AM
Haggerty is a great pickup regardless of anything. We needed a proven scorer at this level. Some of the lower conference transfers are typically inconsistent at this level, but Haggerty certainly shouldn't be.
Post by: wetwillie on May 27, 2025, 11:54:23 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on May 27, 2025, 02:35:38 PM
Haggerty is our PG
Ahh, I thought I saw he was a SF.
Post by: CNS on May 27, 2025, 02:37:18 PM
Haggerty is our PG
So was TP. That’s my concern.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 27, 2025, 05:17:40 PM
Post by: wetwillie on May 27, 2025, 05:21:33 PM
Haggerty is our PG
So was TP. That’s my concern.
I can't tell if you are just gE'ng or not. Perry and Haggerty aren't in the same stratosphere.
Post by: nicname on May 27, 2025, 06:35:24 PM
Post by: chum1 on May 27, 2025, 07:08:59 PM
Post by: nicname on May 27, 2025, 07:39:39 PM
It seems that transfers tend to transfer a lot.
Destination unknown… but now known!
Post by: CNS on May 27, 2025, 08:30:21 PM
Haggerty is our PG
So was TP. That’s my concern.
I can't tell if you are just gE'ng or not. Perry and Haggerty aren't in the same stratosphere.
Not trying to say they are the same player other than TP was a great scorer that shouldn’t have been a point guard and from the admittedly very little I have read about Haggarty leads me to believe he came to us because he will play PG where he has been playing off ball so far. Makes me think he is here to show the NBA he can play on ball, leaving us with a second possible example where we have a shooting guard playing PG. :dunno:
I admit I have done near zero look up of this kid and I am probably reading too much in to the situation given how little I have read about him.
Post by: nicname on May 27, 2025, 09:50:16 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 28, 2025, 07:31:56 AM
Post by: CNS on May 28, 2025, 08:05:50 AM
Hagerty measured at 6'2" and a quarter. Ain't no way he's playing SG at the NBA level, and ain't no way he pulled his name from the draft and came here if we ain't gonna give him PG experience.
Exactly my point. So now we have a SG playing PG. TP wasn't a PG, but played it here and it was frustrating to watch.
Post by: chum1 on May 28, 2025, 08:33:07 AM
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Post by: CNS on May 28, 2025, 09:49:40 AM
Is it just me or is comparing current players to former players always super cringey?
I get that. My attempt is to compare the situation of playing someone out of position and the result possibly being the same. Not that the players are similar to each other.
Post by: CNS on May 28, 2025, 09:52:56 AM
TP's failing was as a scorer, or specifically his 33.2 percent 3-pt shooting average. He averaged 4.4 assists and 2.7 TOs, pretty solid tho the TO rate could have been a bit lower, especially when playing along side of stone hands Cam. TP just struggled to get open on his own as a spot-up shooter on the Big 12 level. PJ is going to score and score at a high level. If he can duplicate Perrys assist/TO numbers, we're golden.
I would argue that a shooting guard not being able to create for himself as a pg is expected to bring down his fgp due to taking worse shots that he would if a pg was in place.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 28, 2025, 11:57:40 AM
1. Haggerty is a better shooting guard
2. Haggerty plays completely different than Tylor did. Haggerty does get to the rim, in fact he's elite at it, probably the best in the nation. He's a developing 3 point shooter. Tylor was the opposite, he was a driveway shooter that we needed to get better at penetrating defenses. Tylor only took 94 2 point shots his senior year, Haggerty took 414 2 point shots last year. Tylor was really good at drawing fouls and getting to the line. He drew 4.5 fouls every 40 minutes and shot 176 FTs. Haggerty drew 6.1 fouls every 40 minutes and shot 274 FTs. He made 48 more FTs than Tylor shot his senior year.
Also you must be Mandela Effecting Tylor's senior year, because he was way better than you are making him out to be. His Offensive rating was 111.0, Markquis's was 111.3 his senior year. Steals, assists, and 2 pt FGs made were the only stats in which Markquis was noticeably better in. Markquis has the Big 12 record for assists* in a season and the NCAA Tournament record for assists in a game, there is no shame in not being a better passer than Markquis.
Apologies, he ended up two assists short of the Big 12 season record, 297 to Gottlieb's 299.
Post by: ChiComCat on May 28, 2025, 01:10:54 PM
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Post by: nicname on May 28, 2025, 04:01:19 PM
I like having a "get to the rim" guy at guard. I think that's a crucial tool in stopping runs by the other team.
Especially when your offense is as clunky as ours typically has been under Tang.
Post by: pissclams on May 28, 2025, 08:21:07 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 28, 2025, 09:08:03 PM
probably would have been easier if we could have just kept dug:lol: easier to miss the tournament and continue to be a joke, absolutely
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Post by: MakeItRain on May 29, 2025, 08:16:00 AM
he’s not the reason we didn’t make the tournament
No, the team was ass and poorly constructed but he was probably the worst starting point guard we've had since the Wooly era. We're replacing him with an all American. Even with the concerns I have about PJs turnover rate, I'm 100% sure he's going to be a better point guard than Dug.
Post by: pissclams on May 29, 2025, 12:55:43 PM
man you and I have vastly different opinions on this dude. you only have to look at who dug replaced to see a worse pg than he was.he’s not the reason we didn’t make the tournament
No, the team was ass and poorly constructed but he was probably the worst starting point guard we've had since the Wooly era. We're replacing him with an all American. Even with the concerns I have about PJs turnover rate, I'm 100% sure he's going to be a better point guard than Dug.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 29, 2025, 12:59:59 PM
Might be the least exciting portal get we've got during NILLittle more exciting
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“Too much sauce!” after a post move
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Post by: CNS on May 29, 2025, 02:02:43 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 29, 2025, 03:15:06 PM
man you and I have vastly different opinions on this dude. you only have to look at who dug replaced to see a worse pg than he was.he’s not the reason we didn’t make the tournament
No, the team was ass and poorly constructed but he was probably the worst starting point guard we've had since the Wooly era. We're replacing him with an all American. Even with the concerns I have about PJs turnover rate, I'm 100% sure he's going to be a better point guard than Dug.
wait, you aren't talking about Tylor Perry, are you?
Post by: pissclams on May 29, 2025, 07:40:18 PM
i am.man you and I have vastly different opinions on this dude. you only have to look at who dug replaced to see a worse pg than he was.he’s not the reason we didn’t make the tournament
No, the team was ass and poorly constructed but he was probably the worst starting point guard we've had since the Wooly era. We're replacing him with an all American. Even with the concerns I have about PJs turnover rate, I'm 100% sure he's going to be a better point guard than Dug.
wait, you aren't talking about Tylor Perry, are you?
Post by: nicname on May 29, 2025, 11:23:49 PM
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Cornfed Cats
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Purple Pounds of Fury
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The Feedlot Frontcourt
Tornado-Warning Weight Class
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“Mooooove!” every time they set a screen
“Too much sauce!” after a post move
“Lil Apple Big Mac!” for the flashier one
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Post by: nicname on May 30, 2025, 09:19:05 AM
bill james has entered the chat!
To be fair, it’s all I have. I barely watched the games.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 30, 2025, 10:59:21 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 30, 2025, 03:47:24 PM
i am.man you and I have vastly different opinions on this dude. you only have to look at who dug replaced to see a worse pg than he was.he’s not the reason we didn’t make the tournament
No, the team was ass and poorly constructed but he was probably the worst starting point guard we've had since the Wooly era. We're replacing him with an all American. Even with the concerns I have about PJs turnover rate, I'm 100% sure he's going to be a better point guard than Dug.
wait, you aren't talking about Tylor Perry, are you?
ORating
Nowell 111.0
Perry 111.3
McDaniel 92.2
FG%
Nowell 38.6
Perry 35.8
McDaniel 37.8
3PT%
Nowell 35.5
Perry 33.5
McDaniel 25.8
FT%
Nowell 88.9
Perry 90.9
McDaniel 72.4
eFG%
Nowell 48.1
Perry 48.2
McDaniel 42.2
True Shooting Percentage
Nowell 56.0
Perry 57.0
McDaniel 44.5
Assist Rate
Nowell 43.0
Perry 24.1
McDaniel 30.2
TOr
Nowell 20.4
Perry 19.6
McDaniel 19.5
Steal Percentage
Nowell 3.9
Perry 1.8
McDaniel 3.1
Fouls Drawn/40
Nowell 5.1
Perry 4.5
McDaniel 1.6
Win Shares
Nowell 6.3
Perry 4.2
McDaniel 1.4
Points
Nowell 633
Perry 519
McDaniel 366
Assists
Nowell 297
Perry 148
McDaniel 158
Turnovers
Nowell 132
Perry 92
McDaniel 85
Steals
Nowell 92
Perry 54
McDaniel 54
Tylor won't get credit, because his team was bad, but he was much closer to Markquis than Dug. Dug was slightly better at getting assists than Tylor, but everything, outside of steals is really really lopsided. I think it's worth noting that Dug had the luxury of being able to pass the ball to Coleman Hawkins, Brendan Hausen, and senior year David N'Guessan. The only offensive weapon that Tylor had that was close was junior year David N'Guessan. Dug should have had a lot more assists than he did.
Post by: MakeItRain on May 30, 2025, 03:54:34 PM
Upperclassmen on KSU team who have never recorded a dunk: Bashir, Marcus Johnson, PJ Haggerty and David Costillo. Will this be the least athletic team since Wooly?
I think you're conflating dunking with athleticism. I'm not going to pretend I know anything about Bashir and Johnson. Castillo is not athletic. Haggerty shot 414 2 point shots and 274 free throws, he can get to the rim as good as any college player we've seen in a long time. He's athletic, even if his vert might be lacking. Haggerty also has small hands, and below average reach and wingspan for his size, that really effects your ability to dunk.
Post by: EMAWzifried on May 30, 2025, 04:13:54 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on May 30, 2025, 04:35:06 PM
Post by: pissclams on May 30, 2025, 07:18:54 PM
your stats suggest that dug was better than tp at doing point guard things, I assume this was just your way of saying that I was righti am.man you and I have vastly different opinions on this dude. you only have to look at who dug replaced to see a worse pg than he was.he’s not the reason we didn’t make the tournament
No, the team was ass and poorly constructed but he was probably the worst starting point guard we've had since the Wooly era. We're replacing him with an all American. Even with the concerns I have about PJs turnover rate, I'm 100% sure he's going to be a better point guard than Dug.
wait, you aren't talking about Tylor Perry, are you?
ORating
Nowell 111.0
Perry 111.3
McDaniel 92.2
FG%
Nowell 38.6
Perry 35.8
McDaniel 37.8
3PT%
Nowell 35.5
Perry 33.5
McDaniel 25.8
FT%
Nowell 88.9
Perry 90.9
McDaniel 72.4
eFG%
Nowell 48.1
Perry 48.2
McDaniel 42.2
True Shooting Percentage
Nowell 56.0
Perry 57.0
McDaniel 44.5
Assist Rate
Nowell 43.0
Perry 24.1
McDaniel 30.2
TOr
Nowell 20.4
Perry 19.6
McDaniel 19.5
Steal Percentage
Nowell 3.9
Perry 1.8
McDaniel 3.1
Fouls Drawn/40
Nowell 5.1
Perry 4.5
McDaniel 1.6
Win Shares
Nowell 6.3
Perry 4.2
McDaniel 1.4
Points
Nowell 633
Perry 519
McDaniel 366
Assists
Nowell 297
Perry 148
McDaniel 158
Turnovers
Nowell 132
Perry 92
McDaniel 85
Steals
Nowell 92
Perry 54
McDaniel 54
Tylor won't get credit, because his team was bad, but he was much closer to Markquis than Dug. Dug was slightly better at getting assists than Tylor, but everything, outside of steals is really really lopsided. I think it's worth noting that Dug had the luxury of being able to pass the ball to Coleman Hawkins, Brendan Hausen, and senior year David N'Guessan. The only offensive weapon that Tylor had that was close was junior year David N'Guessan. Dug should have had a lot more assists than he did.
Post by: MakeItRain on June 01, 2025, 01:33:13 PM
The o ratings and win shares aren't close and I don't even think Dug would claim he's a better defender than Tylor.
Post by: pissclams on June 01, 2025, 07:18:18 PM
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 02, 2025, 03:13:11 AM
A name to watch this season in the Big 12 Conference, Kansas State’s Andrej Kostic, is generating some serious buzz at Adidas Eurocamp 2025.
In two games, Kostic has shown his upside and ability to become an impact freshman for the Wildcats, which has many insiders raving about his future as a professio
A name to watch this season in the Big 12 Conference, Kansas State’s Andrej Kostic, is generating some serious buzz at Adidas Eurocamp 2025.
In two games, Kostic has shown his upside and ability to become an impact freshman for the Wildcats, which has many insiders raving about his future as a professional.
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2025/06/01/incoming-big-12-freshman-shines-at-adidas-eurocamp-2025/
In his two tournament outings, Kostic has posted 34 points, three assists, and three rebounds in 22 minutes per game. Standing at 6-foot-7 with elite shooting, ball handling, and facilitating abilities, the Serbian native has become a hot name in the 2026 NBA Draft class already.
“Head coach Jerome Tang and Kansas State have a high-level shooting guard on the way in Andrej Kostic,” ESPN’s Paul Biancardi wrote on X. “He reads the defense well and attacks with poise under pressure, demonstrating excellent passing vision and touch. He shoots confidently from both deep and mid-range. Standing 6’5”, he has a sturdy frame and a high basketball IQ.”
Draft Express’ Jon Chepkevich also raved about Kostic, saying, “Andrej Kosti? is putting on a show for onlooking NBA scouts here at Adidas Hoops Eurocamp in Treviso. Dropped 19 points against 3SSB Select, showcasing his shotmaking gifts and some flashes of playmaking sizzle. So naturally talented. Looks more than ready for the Big 12.”
The talented guard is expected to be a major contributor for Jerome Tang in 2025-26, as the group looks to return to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2022-23.nal.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 02, 2025, 03:18:38 AM
Post by: catastrophe on June 02, 2025, 12:40:26 PM
Incoming Big 12 Freshman Shines at Adidas Eurocamp 2025
A name to watch this season in the Big 12 Conference, Kansas State’s Andrej Kostic, is generating some serious buzz at Adidas Eurocamp 2025.
In two games, Kostic has shown his upside and ability to become an impact freshman for the Wildcats, which has many insiders raving about his future as a professio
A name to watch this season in the Big 12 Conference, Kansas State’s Andrej Kostic, is generating some serious buzz at Adidas Eurocamp 2025.
In two games, Kostic has shown his upside and ability to become an impact freshman for the Wildcats, which has many insiders raving about his future as a professional.
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2025/06/01/incoming-big-12-freshman-shines-at-adidas-eurocamp-2025/
In his two tournament outings, Kostic has posted 34 points, three assists, and three rebounds in 22 minutes per game. Standing at 6-foot-7 with elite shooting, ball handling, and facilitating abilities, the Serbian native has become a hot name in the 2026 NBA Draft class already.
“Head coach Jerome Tang and Kansas State have a high-level shooting guard on the way in Andrej Kostic,” ESPN’s Paul Biancardi wrote on X. “He reads the defense well and attacks with poise under pressure, demonstrating excellent passing vision and touch. He shoots confidently from both deep and mid-range. Standing 6’5”, he has a sturdy frame and a high basketball IQ.”
Draft Express’ Jon Chepkevich also raved about Kostic, saying, “Andrej Kosti? is putting on a show for onlooking NBA scouts here at Adidas Hoops Eurocamp in Treviso. Dropped 19 points against 3SSB Select, showcasing his shotmaking gifts and some flashes of playmaking sizzle. So naturally talented. Looks more than ready for the Big 12.”
The talented guard is expected to be a major contributor for Jerome Tang in 2025-26, as the group looks to return to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2022-23.nal.
Crazy that he shrunk two inches just between those middle paragraphs.
Post by: EMAWzifried on June 02, 2025, 02:01:44 PM
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Crazy that he shrunk two inches just between those middle paragraphs.
Adidas gear is notoriously inconsistent.
Post by: MakeItRain on June 02, 2025, 06:43:43 PM
:lol:QuoteCrazy that he shrunk two inches just between those middle paragraphs.
Adidas gear is notoriously inconsistent.
Post by: PandaXpanda on June 04, 2025, 11:39:04 AM
https://x.com/PDTScouting/status/1911844418086477964
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 04, 2025, 11:45:26 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 04, 2025, 11:53:25 AM
Post by: Kid In the Hall on June 04, 2025, 12:25:48 PM
Perhaps that's a window into the level of competition and/or what we might expect with respect to output from Rapieque. No idea about the quality of play in that league, but his team seems to be historically good, but appears to be pretty bad this year - record of 5-29 this season.
Post by: meow meow on June 04, 2025, 03:03:34 PM
Post by: Winters on June 04, 2025, 03:32:15 PM
his ceiling is Matt SiebrandtWould take!
Hopefully we have a Quentin Buchanan on this roster too! :Chirp:
Post by: Kid In the Hall on June 04, 2025, 04:48:53 PM
his ceiling is Matt SiebrandtWould take!
Hopefully we have a Quentin Buchanan on this roster too! :Chirp:
The other JC prodigy - Travis Reynolds - was way better...