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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Saulbadguy on April 02, 2010, 08:50:27 AM
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I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing? Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was mumped in the head. :rolleyes:
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FWIW, here is the "link" that started it.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134593
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I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing? Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head. :rolleyes:
IMO those people belong in the same Category of weirdo's that think Bush2 staged the 9/11 attacks.
Unfortunately there's a lot of these types of people
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FWIW, here is the "link" that started it.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134593
:lol: I clicked that link and didnt get further than the banner ad on the top.
NEW SURVIAL SEED LETS YOU PLANT A FULL ACRE CRISIS GARDEN!
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I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing? Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head. :rolleyes:
I will admit that I am curious about the birth question, but only because Obama has spent nearly $2,000,000 of campaign money to obliterate any trace of his past outside of his books.
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birthers = truthers
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I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing? Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head. :rolleyes:
I will admit that I am curious about the birth question, but only because Obama has spent nearly $2,000,000 of campaign money to obliterate any trace of his past outside of his books.
link?
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I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing? Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head. :rolleyes:
I will admit that I am curious about the birth question, but only because Obama has spent nearly $2,000,000 of campaign money to obliterate any trace of his past outside of his books.
link?
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=112720
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there aren't enough people that know of obama's past. his relationships with real estate crook Tony Rezko, black supremacist/Islam activist Louis Farrakhan, his "preacher" Jeremiah Wright, and terrorist William Ayers.
The guy is too sketchy.
You can't forget about the self-proclaimed socialists he has hired. Van Jones, Jim Wallis, Anita Dunn.
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There are probably less right wing folks that believe he isn't a citizen than there are left wing folks that think 9/11 was an inside job for more control of foreign oil.
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I think 9/11 was an inside job but I'm not a birther :dunno:
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i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was.
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i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was.
That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off
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i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was.
That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off
Let's hear a BRIEF summary of the evidence.
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i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was.
That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off
Almost as big of a conspiracy as your crappy grades an agecon rejection....
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i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was.
That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off
Almost as big of a conspiracy as your crappy grades an agecon rejection....
Good one. Grades aren't that bad just not good enough. But for starters, what business did building 7 have collapsing? Why are there hundreds of reports of explosions in and around the WTC including the basement. Why is there no plane wreckage at the pentagon and in the field in PA? Why is there no video of the plane hitting the pentagon?
I'm sure you're going to come up with stupid answers to all of these (after all you still believe in AGW), but they're legit questions if you actually look into it.
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Also, why was NORAD conveniently conducting an exercise in which no jets we're scrambled to help the situation? NORAD previously had a 100% success rate when intercepting hijacked aircraft, on 9/11 they wen't 0/4
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pike, not trying to be a dick here, but is all of your "evidence" in the form of questions?
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pike, not trying to be a dick here, but is all of your "evidence" in the form of questions?
I understand, but look it up if you guys are that interested.
For instance, i don't see a boeing 757 in this picture :dunno:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewebfairy.com%2Fkilltown%2Fimages%2Fflight77%2Fbuilding%2Fsteep_aerial.jpg&hash=30bd6b7edb60496898b30173997b4241cd74ba73)
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pike, not trying to be a dick here, but is all of your "evidence" in the form of questions?
I understand, but look it up if you guys are that interested.
For instance, i don't see a boeing 757 in this picture :dunno:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewebfairy.com%2Fkilltown%2Fimages%2Fflight77%2Fbuilding%2Fsteep_aerial.jpg&hash=30bd6b7edb60496898b30173997b4241cd74ba73)
Great. Let's start there. What's the government's explanation of why there's not an airplane in that picture, why do you and/or the conspiracy theorists think their explanation is bogus, what's your and/or the conspiracy theorists' position on why there's no airplane, and what evidence exists for that position (as opposed to lack of evidence for a different position)?
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The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though
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Let's talk Flight 93.
http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight93.shtml
They were able to find the hijackers red bandanna thing but they couldn't even find the black box? GMAFB.
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The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though
If the missle was cleverly disguised as a passenger jet.
http://debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon
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The government should've had the same crew that hustled us all on this 9/11 deal to somehow plant some evidence that there were WMDs in Iraq. Seems like that'd be even easier than the 9/11 thing with the planes and the buildings and everything. That would've made USA look kick-ass. :dunno:
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The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though
If the missle was cleverly disguised as a passenger jet.
http://debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon
No video. No black box. Hardly any wreckage for a Boeing 767.
We could sit here and trade links all day, but I don't think either one of us will be persuaded here.
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The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though
If the missle was cleverly disguised as a passenger jet.
http://debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon
No video. No black box. Hardly any wreckage for a Boeing 767.
We could sit here and trade links all day, but I don't think either one of us will be persuaded here.
You sent me a vague, overhead photo of the pentagon. the photos at my link are of ACTUAL PLANE WRECKAGE AT THE SCENE. You and I both know that "Loose Change" has been totally destroyed by any objective reviewer.
You are giving our gov't WAY too much credit.
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But I still remain skeptical. The plane that they say hit is REALLY BIG. And all they can find are a few scraps? What about the engines? They're fracking huge. You can't just believe that the whole thing vaporized.
Also, you still haven't answered anything about flight 93. Serious lack of wreckage there too
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To be fair Limestone, until a few days ago, I would've said the idea of 9/11 being an inside job is as ludicrous as thinking nunya would be able to shut down the site for a day while gathering evidence for a lawsuit against everyone here. And that happened. :runaway:
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To be fair Limestone, until a few days ago, I would've said the idea of 9/11 being an inside job is as ludicrous as thinking nunya would be able to shut down the site for a day while gathering evidence for a lawsuit against everyone here. And that happened. :runaway:
lol. Again, we could go on all night about this but I really doubt either one of us will persuade one another.
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But I still remain skeptical. The plane that they say hit is REALLY BIG. And all they can find are a few scraps? What about the engines? They're fracking huge. You can't just believe that the whole thing vaporized.
Also, you still haven't answered anything about flight 93. Serious lack of wreckage there too
So you think they shot a missle into the ground, planted a blackbox, kidnapped all those people, faked those phone calls, bribed/threatened/planted all those witnesses, faked the National Guard pilot who watched it then actually spread SOME wreckage (just not enough for you preferences).
No way Bush shouldn't still be in office because he is the smartest, most capable leader in history and we lost possibly the greatest world leader of our generation when we let the Constitution force him out.
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But I still remain skeptical. The plane that they say hit is REALLY BIG. And all they can find are a few scraps? What about the engines? They're fracking huge. You can't just believe that the whole thing vaporized.
Also, you still haven't answered anything about flight 93. Serious lack of wreckage there too
So you think they shot a missle into the ground, planted a blackbox, kidnapped all those people, faked those phone calls, bribed/threatened/planted all those witnesses, faked the National Guard pilot who watched it then actually spread SOME wreckage (just not enough for you preferences).
No way Bush shouldn't still be in office because he is the smartest, most capable leader in history and we lost possibly the greatest world leader of our generation when we let the Constitution force him out.
I mean it's possible. The government lied about the Gulf of Tonkin and if you really want to read something mind blowing, look up Operation Northwoods. The government has been lying to us for years, no reason to believe they didn't lie about this too.
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But I still remain skeptical. The plane that they say hit is REALLY BIG. And all they can find are a few scraps? What about the engines? They're fracking huge. You can't just believe that the whole thing vaporized.
Also, you still haven't answered anything about flight 93. Serious lack of wreckage there too
So you think they shot a missle into the ground, planted a blackbox, kidnapped all those people, faked those phone calls, bribed/threatened/planted all those witnesses, faked the National Guard pilot who watched it then actually spread SOME wreckage (just not enough for you preferences).
No way Bush shouldn't still be in office because he is the smartest, most capable leader in history and we lost possibly the greatest world leader of our generation when we let the Constitution force him out.
I mean it's possible. The government lied about the Gulf of Tonkin and if you really want to read something mind blowing, look up Operation Northwoods. The government has been lying to us for years, no reason to believe they didn't lie about this too.
well, except for the overwhelming evidence that they didn't.
I'm not saying the government doesn't lie. They sure as crap do. But on 9/11, 4 passenger planes were highjacked by a bunch of loons and we got caught with our pants down. 3 hit their mark, one got taken down when the passengers on that jet forced it down.
and before I look up Operation Northwoods, it isn't a youtube by the same dip leg who created Loose Change, is it?
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Operation Northwoods from ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
edit: This is all based on declassified information, btw
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No input on Operation Northwoods? /thread?
The government just sees us as disposable pawns, nothing more.
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No input on Operation Northwoods? /thread?
I liked that story better when I saw it on 24 a couple seasons ago.
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No input on Operation Northwoods? /thread?
I liked that story better when I saw it on 24 a couple seasons ago.
Well it really almost happened, dude
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To be fair Limestone, until a few days ago, I would've said the idea of 9/11 being an inside job is as ludicrous as thinking nunya would be able to shut down the site for a day while gathering evidence for a lawsuit against everyone here. And that happened. :runaway:
lol. Again, we could go on all night about this but I really doubt either one of us will persuade one another.
Really? You can't be persuaded? Because what you believe is incredibly stupid.
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No input on Operation Northwoods? /thread?
I liked that story better when I saw it on 24 a couple seasons ago.
Well it really almost happened, dude
As of a week or so ago, both have been cancelled.
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No input on Operation Northwoods? /thread?
The government just sees us as disposable pawns, nothing more.
Well, maybe YOU.
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Did you tards not read that? The government had a plan to kill innocent people to gain support for a war with Cuba. JFC people open your eyes here
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To be fair Limestone, until a few days ago, I would've said the idea of 9/11 being an inside job is as ludicrous as thinking nunya would be able to shut down the site for a day while gathering evidence for a lawsuit against everyone here. And that happened. :runaway:
lol. Again, we could go on all night about this but I really doubt either one of us will persuade one another.
Really? You can't be persuaded? Because what you believe is incredibly stupid.
Yeah, this is really the only reason I'm participating this much in a politics board thread. I like pike. It'd be one thing if we were arguing about whether Jamar or (non-MHK) Jacob is more adorable, but it shouldn't be tough to convince him there wasn't a boogeyman in the white house.
Did you tards not read that? The government had a plan to kill innocent people to gain support for a war with Cuba. JFC people open your eyes here
:lol:
What I guess I don't understand is if you truly believe stuff like that, how are you going to sleep tonight? Like, shouldn't you be spending all your free time trying to start a life far away from the psychotic killers in our government?
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Pike, what are your thoughts about Area 51?
:users:
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To be fair Limestone, until a few days ago, I would've said the idea of 9/11 being an inside job is as ludicrous as thinking nunya would be able to shut down the site for a day while gathering evidence for a lawsuit against everyone here. And that happened. :runaway:
lol. Again, we could go on all night about this but I really doubt either one of us will persuade one another.
Really? You can't be persuaded? Because what you believe is incredibly stupid.
Yeah, this is really the only reason I'm participating this much in a politics board thread. I like pike. It'd be one thing if we were arguing about whether Jamar or (non-MHK) Jacob is more adorable, but it shouldn't be tough to convince him there wasn't a boogeyman in the white house.
Did you tards not read that? The government had a plan to kill innocent people to gain support for a war with Cuba. JFC people open your eyes here
:lol:
What I guess I don't understand is if you truly believe stuff like that, how are you going to sleep tonight? Like, shouldn't you be spending all your free time trying to start a life far away from the psychotic killers in our government?
Why wouldn't you believe it? This crap actually happened and is now all declassified as of several years ago. I mean Christ, this doesn't raise an eyebrow at all with you?
Pike, what are your thoughts about Area 51?
:users:
Don't know or really don't care. Bigger fish to fry i guess
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To be fair Limestone, until a few days ago, I would've said the idea of 9/11 being an inside job is as ludicrous as thinking nunya would be able to shut down the site for a day while gathering evidence for a lawsuit against everyone here. And that happened. :runaway:
lol. Again, we could go on all night about this but I really doubt either one of us will persuade one another.
Really? You can't be persuaded? Because what you believe is incredibly stupid.
Keep that mind closed _33
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You're worried that the government created 9/11, but you don't care about the possibility that the government has a secret base where they store aliens?
:runaway:
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Really? You can't be persuaded? Because what you believe is incredibly stupid.
Yeah, this is really the only reason I'm participating this much in a politics board thread. I like pike. It'd be one thing if we were arguing about whether Jamar or (non-MHK) Jacob is more adorable, but it shouldn't be tough to convince him there wasn't a boogeyman in the white house.
Did you tards not read that? The government had a plan to kill innocent people to gain support for a war with Cuba. JFC people open your eyes here
:lol:
What I guess I don't understand is if you truly believe stuff like that, how are you going to sleep tonight? Like, shouldn't you be spending all your free time trying to start a life far away from the psychotic killers in our government?
Why wouldn't you believe it? This crap actually happened and is now all declassified as of several years ago. I mean Christ, this doesn't raise an eyebrow at all with you?
I guess not. Just don't feel that the government's going to try to kill me, and I'm usually right about stuff. :dunno: But seriously, if you're freaked out by all this, what are you going to do? If I knew there were people out to kill me, I'd have some sort of plan to prevent it.
Keep that mind closed _33
C'mon now. That mind created the fantastic EMAW hoops video unleashed upon the world this past week.
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I just don't see why you wouldn't believe that? Cause you don't want to?
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You're worried that the government created 9/11, but you don't care about the possibility that the government has a secret base where they store aliens?
:runaway:
It's not really secret, you can see it on google maps satellite view.
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You're worried that the government created 9/11, but you don't care about the possibility that the government has a secret base where they store aliens?
:runaway:
Like I said, bigger fish to fry
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You're worried that the government created 9/11, but you don't care about the possibility that the government has a secret base where they store aliens?
:runaway:
Like I said, bigger fish to fry
Listen, I don't think you're fryer is quite hot enough to put the fish in yet. Probably better if you didn't say anything for awhile brick.
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You're worried that the government created 9/11, but you don't care about the possibility that the government has a secret base where they store aliens?
:runaway:
Like I said, bigger fish to fry
Listen, I don't think you're fryer is quite hot enough to put the fish in yet. Probably better if you didn't say anything for awhile brick.
You still haven't looked up climategate have you?
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OMG we outed an actual truther! :ksu:
Love these guys. LOVE 'EM!
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OMG we outed an actual truther! :ksu:
Love these guys. LOVE 'EM!
:excited:
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Anybody ever meet a truther who was also a birther? What l love about these conspiracy guys is that they typically think everyone else's conspiracies are ridiculous. Dude that believes in 2000 election conspiracy may also believe in 9/11 inside job talk, but definitely not birther conspiracies. And vice versa. That tells me a lot.
Also, lol at Northwood "almost happening." Sounds to me like they were just exploring all their options and discarded that one. And to be fair, it WOULD create a helpful wave of national indignation. :dunno:
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Anybody ever meet a truther who was also a birther? What l love about these conspiracy guys is that they typically think everyone else's conspiracies are ridiculous. Dude that believes in 2000 election conspiracy may also believe in 9/11 inside job talk, but definitely not birther conspiracies. And vice versa. That tells me a lot.
Also, lol at Northwood "almost happening." Sounds to me like they were just exploring all their options and discarded that one. And to be fair, it WOULD create a helpful wave of national indignation. :dunno:
And you're ok with the fact that it was even an option that they explored?
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:ohno:
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Anybody ever meet a truther who was also a birther? What l love about these conspiracy guys is that they typically think everyone else's conspiracies are ridiculous. Dude that believes in 2000 election conspiracy may also believe in 9/11 inside job talk, but definitely not birther conspiracies. And vice versa. That tells me a lot.
Also, lol at Northwood "almost happening." Sounds to me like they were just exploring all their options and discarded that one. And to be fair, it WOULD create a helpful wave of national indignation. :dunno:
And you're ok with the fact that it was even an option that they explored?
When it comes to keeping America awesome, I say keep all options on the table. Plus, now if some other administration comes along and suggests it, the military can be like "Nope. We looked into that. Not a good idea." Really, it made us safer. Think about that.
Also, do you like science?
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Anybody ever meet a truther who was also a birther? What l love about these conspiracy guys is that they typically think everyone else's conspiracies are ridiculous. Dude that believes in 2000 election conspiracy may also believe in 9/11 inside job talk, but definitely not birther conspiracies. And vice versa. That tells me a lot.
Also, lol at Northwood "almost happening." Sounds to me like they were just exploring all their options and discarded that one. And to be fair, it WOULD create a helpful wave of national indignation. :dunno:
And you're ok with the fact that it was even an option that they explored?
When it comes to keeping America awesome, I say keep all options on the table. Plus, now if some other administration comes along and suggests it, the military can be like "Nope. We looked into that. Not a good idea." Really, it made us safer. Think about that.
Also, do you like science?
:facepalm:
And yes, I do like science. Why might you be asking?
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Anybody ever meet a truther who was also a birther? What l love about these conspiracy guys is that they typically think everyone else's conspiracies are ridiculous. Dude that believes in 2000 election conspiracy may also believe in 9/11 inside job talk, but definitely not birther conspiracies. And vice versa. That tells me a lot.
Also, lol at Northwood "almost happening." Sounds to me like they were just exploring all their options and discarded that one. And to be fair, it WOULD create a helpful wave of national indignation. :dunno:
And you're ok with the fact that it was even an option that they explored?
When it comes to keeping America awesome, I say keep all options on the table. Plus, now if some other administration comes along and suggests it, the military can be like "Nope. We looked into that. Not a good idea." Really, it made us safer. Think about that.
Also, do you like science?
:facepalm:
And yes, I do like science. Why might you be asking?
Wait...real science or "loose change" science?
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Loose Change is more of just common sense
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Loose Change is more of just common sense
Great. That's the answer I was looking for.
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http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2010/04/did-michelle-obama-slip-up.html
:bwpopcorn: :popcorn:<----diversity
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http://victoriataftkpam.blogspot.com/2010/04/did-michelle-obama-slip-up.html
:bwpopcorn: :popcorn:<----diversity
Here is what the Gibbs will say:
"She probably would choose different words if she had it to do over again, just like the other 746 times the administration and it's appointees have misspoken."
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Area 51
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
They crashed in the ocean near an island and are on that TV show.
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
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this thread is a damn conspiracy
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
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Keep in mind that the "official story" is that no black boxes were found which is like the first time in history. They expect us to believe that they found Mohammed Atta's passport on the streets of new york and the terrorists' bandannas laying around but no black boxes. Very odd.
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
So you choose "far-fetched" over a scientifically unfounded "very unplausible"?
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
So you choose "far-fetched" over a scientifically unfounded "very unplausible"?
I just don't believe the "official story" which is completely full of bs
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
So you choose "far-fetched" over a scientifically unfounded "very unplausible"?
I just don't believe the "official story" which is completely full of bs
You should read Popular Science. Completely debunked all the conspiracies. Debunked the fema camps, too.
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
So you choose "far-fetched" over a scientifically unfounded "very unplausible"?
I just don't believe the "official story" which is completely full of bs
You should read Popular Science. Completely debunked all the conspiracies. Debunked the fema camps, too.
No need. Pike prefers the "common sense" of Loose Change to the "official bs" of science and stuff.
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
So you choose "far-fetched" over a scientifically unfounded "very unplausible"?
I just don't believe the "official story" which is completely full of bs
You should read Popular Science. Completely debunked all the conspiracies. Debunked the fema camps, too.
No need. Pike prefers the "common sense" of Loose Change to the "official bs" of science and stuff.
I've read the Popular Mechanics. Doesn't debunk crap. What exactly is scientific about the official story anyway? It was written by a bunch of lousy ass congressmen.
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Terry Lakin Letter to POTUS
March 30, 2010
The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States of America
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Mr. President:
For more than seventeen years, I have had the privilege of serving my country as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces, including overseas assignments in imminent danger/combat areas in Bosnia and Afghanistan.
The United States is an example to the rest of the world of a stable, civilized democratic government where all men are created equal and the rule of law is cherished and obeyed. The U.S. military teaches and promotes the rule of law and civilian control of the military to many other nations and militaries around the world. Every soldier learns what constitutes a lawful order and is encouraged to stand up and object to unlawful orders. My officer's oath of office requires that I swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
I recently received deployment orders for a second deployment to Afghanistan. My orders included a requirement to bring copies of my birth certificate. I will provide a certified copy of my original birth certificate with common, standard identifiers, including the name of an attending physician and a hospital. Every day in transactions across the country, American citizens are required to prove their identity, and standards for identification have become even stricter since the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
Since the fall of 2008, I have been troubled by reports that your original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with many other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding your place of birth and "natural born" status. Many people mistake the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity--the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. Many do not understand that the online document was from 2007, generated by computer, laser-printed, and merely a certification that there is an original birth certificate on file which may or may not be sufficiently probative. An original birth certificate is the underlying document that presumably includes a hospital and attending physician's or midwife's name that should lay to rest the "natural born" dispute.
In 2008, after pressure from the news media, Senator McCain produced an original birth certificate from the Panama Canal Zone; a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing examined and affirmed his "natural born" status and Constitutional eligibility to serve as President. The U.S. Senate was silent about your eligibility, despite statements from Kenyan citizens that you were born in Mombasa, including your paternal grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. during a radio interview. Hawaiian state officials claim they cannot release an original birth certificate without your consent.
I have attempted through my chain of command for many months to get answers to the questions surrounding your eligibility. I also sought answers, unsuccessfully, through my Congressional delegation. You serve as my Commander-in-Chief. Given the fact that the certification that your campaign posted online was not a document that the Hawaiian Department of Homelands regarded as a sufficient substitute for the original birth certificate and given that it has been your personal decision that has prevented the Hawaiian Department of Health from releasing your original birth certificate or any Hawaiian hospital from releasing your records, the burden of proof must rest with you.
Please assure the American people that you are indeed constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct service members into harm's way. I will be proud to deploy to Afghanistan to further serve my country and my fellow soldiers, but I should only do so with the knowledge that this important provision of our Constitution is respected and obeyed. The people that continue to risk their lives and give the ultimate sacrifice to the service of our country deserve to know they do so upholding their vows to the oath of office and the Constitution.
Unless it is established (by this sufficient proof that should be easily within your power to provide) that you are constitutionally eligible to serve as President and my Commander-in-Chief, I, and all other military officers may be following illegal orders. Therefore, sir, until an original birth certificate is brought forward that validates your eligibility and puts to rest the other reasonable questions surrounding your unproven eligibility; I cannot in good conscience obey ANY military orders.
Respectfully,
// Terry Lakin
Lieutenant Colonel Terrence Lakin, USA
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/terry-lakins-letter-to-potus.html
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hope they lock that guy up for life for being a traitor to his country.
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"Trust but verify."
Ronald Reagan
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Brilliant move by Obama not to publicly provide this. Just causes opponents to waste thousands of useless hours on it making themselves look ridiculous.
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Brilliant move by Obama not to publicly provide this. Just causes opponents to waste thousands of useless hours on it making themselves look ridiculous.
This is what I believe. It's way better for him politically to let these people keep going
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Brilliant move by Obama not to publicly provide this. Just causes opponents to waste thousands of useless hours on it making themselves look ridiculous.
Also kind of a dick move :dunno:
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Conspiracy theories are fun. None of the 9-11 ones ever answer 1 question though. If a missle hit the pentagon and a smaller plane crashed in the field, what happened to the planes that left the airports and all those people?
Pike? :jeffy:
idk. No plane landed in that field in PA though. There is no wreckage at all.
idk is not an answer. Where did those people and planes go?
There's some far fetched theories that the planes never existed or that they even landed in Cinci. It's plausible that a plane hit the pentagon I suppose, but the field in PA is very unplausable.
Wait a second....the plane landing in Cincy is all but "fact" in Loose Change. Explain to me how your bulletproof Loose Change evidence be "far fetched" and be a conspiracy coverup at the same time?
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I can't decide if Pike is really that paranoid or just the greatest troll ever. Also love the birthers ... such a fun group. Don't run into many truthers these days, but the Tea Party rallies are ripe with birthers that are loads of fun.
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I can't decide if Pike is really that paranoid or just the greatest troll ever. Also love the birthers ... such a fun group. Don't run into many truthers these days, but the Tea Party rallies are ripe with birthers that are loads of fun.
how 'bout we have some fun with the lib'tards!!! :driving: I'll start.........
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love love love the last one!!! The 'tards are just so tolerant and stuff!!!
but seriously, because their memories seem to be so select, lets just remind the donk'tards again............... "I dont see anything wrong!!!"................ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg ................... wow! what a great group forecasters they are! :facepalm:
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Idiocy is not a partisan problem.
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and when people can start to realize that, we will be gaining some positive ground! Humans are just that...... they always want to blame someone or something else. for some, responsibility is a hard pill to swallow!
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Doesn't mean I won't laugh at them. I laugh at truthers. I laugh at war protesters. I laugh at birthers. That's the fun of being a moderate.
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Doesn't mean I won't laugh at them. I laugh at truthers. I laugh at war protesters. I laugh at birthers. That's the fun of being a moderate.
Truthers laugh at you, bra
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Doesn't mean I won't laugh at them. I laugh at truthers. I laugh at war protesters. I laugh at birthers. That's the fun of being a moderate.
Truthers laugh at you, bra
pffft always glad to entertain retards
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Doesn't mean I won't laugh at them. I laugh at truthers. I laugh at war protesters. I laugh at birthers. That's the fun of being a moderate.
Truthers laugh at you, bra
pffft always glad to entertain retards
pffft to you to sir
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I've never understood why this one is even supposed to be offensive. :dunno:
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AMERICA! eff YEAH!
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Couldn't care less about Obama and where he was born.
But I always find it fascinating how dismissive people are of anyone who raises legit questions. Popular Mechanics or Science also thought Area 51 moved to an abandoned DOD missile range in Utah. People literally walk in and out of the place every day, there's nothing there but empty buildings and tumbleweeds. And no, I don't think they have Aliens at Area 51, it's just a fascinating place because you know they're working on some really funky $hit, and they literally fly in the workers from a terminal at McCarren in Las Vegas on a DOD owned airline code named "Janet" . . . some people just simply can't grasp how massive our countries military complex is, and how many billions get spent every year on black projects.
There's plenty of legit questions around 9-11. Guys that flunked out of flight schools that can peform in airliner at a level that takes the most experienced pilots years to master. Most experts understand that there's no way AQ pulled off an operation like 9-11 without the help of a state sanctioned intelligence agency. Plus ask yourself, where can you trace the roots of AQ to?? Well, to the United States and the CIA that's who. We started the f_ckers back when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The former lead investigator of AQ dies on his 2nd day on the job, on 9-11 as the head of security at the WTC complex. The guy resigned from the FBI because he kept getting stone walled by internal forces everytime he was about to get something really juicy on AQ . . . why is that?? He dies in the freaking WTC on 9-11 . . . oh yeah, just another coincidence.
But hey, never question, always believe what the government tells you. Sure, an ex marine with an old piece of $hit italian military rifle blew the president of the United States head off from hundreds of feet away while the pres was in a moving vechicle . . . right. Oh, but he was trained to shoot in the marines . . . sure he was, trainied to shoot precision made firearms, not piece of $hit bolt action rifles. Those are the kinds of shots it takes years to master using precision made and sighted in weapons, not piece of $hit Italian rifles.
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:surprised:
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Couldn't care less about Obama and where he was born.
But I always find it fascinating how dismissive people are of anyone who raises legit questions. Popular Mechanics or Science also thought Area 51 moved to an abandoned DOD missile range in Utah. People literally walk in and out of the place every day, there's nothing there but empty buildings and tumbleweeds. And no, I don't think they have Aliens at Area 51, it's just a fascinating place because you know they're working on some really funky $hit, and they literally fly in the workers from a terminal at McCarren in Las Vegas on a DOD owned airline code named "Janet" . . . some people just simply can't grasp how massive our countries military complex is, and how many billions get spent every year on black projects.
There's plenty of legit questions around 9-11. Guys that flunked out of flight schools that can peform in airliner at a level that takes the most experienced pilots years to master. Most experts understand that there's no way AQ pulled off an operation like 9-11 without the help of a state sanctioned intelligence agency. Plus ask yourself, where can you trace the roots of AQ to?? Well, to the United States and the CIA that's who. We started the f_ckers back when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The former lead investigator of AQ dies on his 2nd day on the job, on 9-11 as the head of security at the WTC complex. The guy resigned from the FBI because he kept getting stone walled by internal forces everytime he was about to get something really juicy on AQ . . . why is that?? He dies in the freaking WTC on 9-11 . . . oh yeah, just another coincidence.
But hey, never question, always believe what the government tells you. Sure, an ex marine with an old piece of $hit italian military rifle blew the president of the United States head off from hundreds of feet away while the pres was in a moving vechicle . . . right. Oh, but he was trained to shoot in the marines . . . sure he was, trainied to shoot precision made firearms, not piece of $hit bolt action rifles. Those are the kinds of shots it takes years to master using precision made and sighted in weapons, not piece of $hit Italian rifles.
This is what amazes me about people (especially some on this board). The gov lies all the f*cking time. Why wouldn't lie about JFK, Gulf of Tonken, Operation Northwoods, or 9/11?
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We tried to create a clandestine Cuban national army using the CIA and tried to invade Castro's Cuba, we tried to assassinate Castro many times . . . but there's NO WAY anything like Operation Northwoods could have ever been conjured up . . . NO WAY.
We overthrow governments, trade arms for hostages, send in special forces to train Islamic backed groups in the Balkans and then go bomb Yugoslavia for 80 straight days, we conjure up mobile weapons of mass destruction labs roaming the roads of Iraq . . . but the government never lies to us.
The Gulf of Tonkin "incident" was one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated in history . . . but always believe the government.
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crap just got real
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What was the Govt's motive for blowing up the World Trade Towers?
Should this thread be merged with the Birth Certificate thread into one large :jeffy: type thread?
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Couldn't care less about Obama and where he was born.
But I always find it fascinating how dismissive people are of anyone who raises legit questions. Popular Mechanics or Science also thought Area 51 moved to an abandoned DOD missile range in Utah. People literally walk in and out of the place every day, there's nothing there but empty buildings and tumbleweeds. And no, I don't think they have Aliens at Area 51, it's just a fascinating place because you know they're working on some really funky $hit, and they literally fly in the workers from a terminal at McCarren in Las Vegas on a DOD owned airline code named "Janet" . . . some people just simply can't grasp how massive our countries military complex is, and how many billions get spent every year on black projects.
There's plenty of legit questions around 9-11. Guys that flunked out of flight schools that can peform in airliner at a level that takes the most experienced pilots years to master. Most experts understand that there's no way AQ pulled off an operation like 9-11 without the help of a state sanctioned intelligence agency. Plus ask yourself, where can you trace the roots of AQ to?? Well, to the United States and the CIA that's who. We started the f_ckers back when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The former lead investigator of AQ dies on his 2nd day on the job, on 9-11 as the head of security at the WTC complex. The guy resigned from the FBI because he kept getting stone walled by internal forces everytime he was about to get something really juicy on AQ . . . why is that?? He dies in the freaking WTC on 9-11 . . . oh yeah, just another coincidence.
But hey, never question, always believe what the government tells you. Sure, an ex marine with an old piece of $hit italian military rifle blew the president of the United States head off from hundreds of feet away while the pres was in a moving vechicle . . . right. Oh, but he was trained to shoot in the marines . . . sure he was, trainied to shoot precision made firearms, not piece of $hit bolt action rifles. Those are the kinds of shots it takes years to master using precision made and sighted in weapons, not piece of $hit Italian rifles.
I could see the 9/11 terrorists being hired by the United States military, but I don't know how anyone can say that people didn't die that day on Flight 93 and on the plane that hit the Pentagon. There were accounts of people on Flight 93 calling their loved ones right before the plane crashed. Those people are dead. Now, whether or not the terrorists were working for the US government is another story.
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Meh, still not a big conspiracy theory guy. In time the truth always comes out because people love to talk...
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Ben I didn't say anything about Flight 93??
Yes Ben Ji in time the truth does come out. Like the Gulf Tonkin "incident" in time it was realized that U.S. ships were likely shooting at phantoms, but it got blown up into North Vietnamese ships attacking American Ships and 10 years later 53,000 Americans were dead.
Also, do a little research on the history of Brown & Root (Haliburton) and LBJ.
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Ben I didn't say anything about Flight 93??
Yes Ben Ji in time the truth does come out. Like the Gulf Tonkin "incident" in time it was realized that U.S. ships were likely shooting at phantoms, but it got blown up into North Vietnamese ships attacking American Ships and 10 years later 53,000 Americans were dead.
Also, do a little research on the history of Brown & Root (Haliburton) and LBJ.
No, but it seemed like you were backing up pike, who did have doubts about whether or not Flight 93 actually existed, and whether or not a plane hit the Pentagon.
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Cass Sunstein, who is Obama's Information Czar, wrote a paper in 2008 about how the government should handle conspiracy theories. Here is the abstract:
Abstract: Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.
He neglects to mention, as do many others, that conspiracies do indeed actually happen in real life.
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What was the Govt's motive for blowing up the World Trade Towers?
Should this thread be merged with the Birth Certificate thread into one large :jeffy: type thread?
:facepalm:
Dude, you need to do some research
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Ben I didn't say anything about Flight 93??
Yes Ben Ji in time the truth does come out. Like the Gulf Tonkin "incident" in time it was realized that U.S. ships were likely shooting at phantoms, but it got blown up into North Vietnamese ships attacking American Ships and 10 years later 53,000 Americans were dead.
Also, do a little research on the history of Brown & Root (Haliburton) and LBJ.
No, but it seemed like you were backing up pike, who did have doubts about whether or not Flight 93 actually existed, and whether or not a plane hit the Pentagon.
I mean I'm skeptical on this. It's just amazing that a plane so large would leave hardly any wreckage at either site, and there's no video of either one, and there's no black box (but they "found" the terrorists' head bands and stuff :jerkoff: )
It's just very fishy. Not to mention one of the guys on Flight 93 called his mom and was like, "Hey mom, this is...(then he says his first name and last name)"
So wtf knows what happened. Did the government make up all the "passengers" on these "flights"? - Maybe, like i've said they've lied BIG before and there's nothing from stopping them from doing it again.
Edit: Also, phone calls can't be received from an altitude as high as they were. That's an inescapable fact. Very, very fishy.
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hmmm... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4r7HAx2OA)
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There's very little doubt by most that it was a 757 that hit the Pentagon, the issue many have is , that as they like to say, was some $hit hot flying going on, not the kind of flying you get from fly school rejects.
Albeit some of the witnesses say it was more like a Gulfstream sized jet.
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There's very little doubt by most that it was a 757 that hit the Pentagon, the issue many have is , that as they like to say, was some $hit hot flying going on, not the kind of flying you get from fly school rejects.
Albeit some of the witnesses say it was more like a Gulfstream sized jet.
Exactly. How crap flying despite what sized the jet, but like I said I'm skeptical that a 757 hit the pentagon.
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There's very little doubt by most that it was a 757 that hit the Pentagon, the issue many have is , that as they like to say, was some $hit hot flying going on, not the kind of flying you get from fly school rejects.
Does it really take some "hot $hit" flying to run a plane into something? I thought it took "hot $hit" flying to avoid running into something?
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I really don't have much of an opinion on all these conspiracy theories. However, how many people, roughly, are "in" on these "jobs"?? It would just seem someone, somewhere, wouldn't be able to keep their mouth shut, i dunno, maybe i'm wrong.
Plus, I also wouldn't like living my life wondering if some CIA dude would knock on my door, ask if I go by Pike, then make me disappear. If they covered up 9/11, why wouldn't they cover YOU up. IMHO.
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I really don't have much of an opinion on all these conspiracy theories. However, how many people, roughly, are "in" on these "jobs"?? It would just seem someone, somewhere, wouldn't be able to keep their mouth shut, i dunno, maybe i'm wrong.
Plus, I also wouldn't like living my life wondering if some CIA dude would knock on my door, ask if I go by Pike, then make me disappear. If they covered up 9/11, why wouldn't they cover YOU up. IMHO.
Exactly why I dont believe in any big theorys
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
Microsoft Flight Simulator?
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
Ever seen Airplane?? Auto-pilot. duh.
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Flight sim and auto pilot? LOL at you guys
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These guys couldn't even fly a single engine Cessna
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These guys couldn't even fly a single engine Cessna
If you recall, their instructors stated that they weren't particularly interested in learning to take off or land, just in-flight control.
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
dude isn't the pentagon like the largest office building in the world? :dunno:
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
dude isn't the pentagon like the largest office building in the world? :dunno:
Yeah, but to navigate a plane from 30k feet to hit the pentagon like it did is something that a flight school dropout couldn't do
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I don't think the plane was at 30,000 feet was it?
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Getting a plane down to altitude, then hitting a huge, stationary target that is completely unobscured/totally visible when you don't intend on walking away is something a month or 2 flight student could do.
Flying by sight into the side of the Pentagon would not be much of a feat at all.
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Understood . . . still some $hit hot flying just to get into position.
But hey a Trillion dollar defense system just "got caught with their pants down" (shrug).
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they didn't get caught with their pants down. They just didn't communicate and act upon it.
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Understood . . . still some $hit hot flying just to get into position.
But hey a Trillion dollar defense system just "got caught with their pants down" (shrug).
Was Pearl Harbor an inside job too?
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Understood . . . still some $hit hot flying just to get into position.
But hey a Trillion dollar defense system just "got caught with their pants down" (shrug).
Was Pearl Harbor an inside job too?
No, but they knew it was coming just so we could enter WWII. I know you doods buy everything that the gov tells you, but the gov lies, lies, and lies some more.
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they didn't get caught with their pants down. They just didn't communicate and act upon it.
Yeah it just happens that NORAD was conducting war games all across the states, and then when 4 planes got hijacked they went 0/4 on intercepting them all. NORAD's previous record was 100%.
Very strange dudes, very strange.
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they didn't get caught with their pants down. They just didn't communicate and act upon it.
Yeah it just happens that NORAD was conducting war games all across the states, and then when 4 planes got hijacked they went 0/4 on intercepting them all. NORAD's previous record was 100%.
Very strange dudes, very strange.
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Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.
:facepalm:
NORAD does that stuff constantly. And has for 50 years.
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I have a friend who is a Truther. It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story. Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question. The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense. Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies. And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges."
I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement. Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you.
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I have a friend who is a Truther. It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story. Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question. The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense. Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies. And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges."
I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement. Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you.
You can throw man made global warming in there, also.
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I have a friend who is a Truther. It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story. Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question. The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense. Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies. And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges."
I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement. Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you.
They also say there were no "black boxes" recovered even though there were. You can listen to the voice recorder from Flt 93 on several sites.
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Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.
:facepalm:
NORAD does that stuff constantly. And has for 50 years.
I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on
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I have a friend who is a Truther. It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story. Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question. The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense. Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies. And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges."
I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement. Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you.
So you believe in religion and don't think anything is strange about 9/11?
:lol:
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Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.
:facepalm:
NORAD does that stuff constantly. And has for 50 years.
I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on
But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down? Which is it?
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Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.
:facepalm:
NORAD does that stuff constantly. And has for 50 years.
I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on
But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down? Which is it?
Idk, Loose Change isn't the end all, be all of the 9/11 truth movement. It's a f*cking video that two college dudes made that raises questions
Let's look at some other facts:
Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11
Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.
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Let's look at some other facts:
Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11
Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.
I just KNEW the jews were behind it. DAMN YOU SAUL!
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
It won't stop until the government (which has been intently monitoring this thread) silences him for good.
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Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.
:facepalm:
NORAD does that stuff constantly. And has for 50 years.
I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on
But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down? Which is it?
Idk, Loose Change isn't the end all, be all of the 9/11 truth movement. It's a f*cking video that two college dudes made that raises questions
Let's look at some other facts:
Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11
Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.
Now you are reciting internet whack job theories. But, if you wish to prove your point, shoot me a reputable link that shows both the chronology of Silverstein's insurance purchase, and that he profited $500 million. And please understand that "profit" means to make money above the loss. So, take his ultimate insurance payout, subtract the value of the properties that were destroyed as well as the legal fees in
In the meantime, do a little research on the litigation that surrounded his policies, and the excess layers of insurance, and excess insurers. They range from Allianz, to Lloyds, to Travelers etc. I had some classmates who were absolutely on the ground floor of the litigation and if he (Silverstein) was aware of an impending terrorist attack on his property and sought to get rich off of it, he did it the dumbest way possible, and by purchasing a policy that only had a 50-50 chance of paying for both towers.
So, in your mind, in all seriousness, who all knew about this plot? Silverstein and his people, all of those people who traded airline stock, NORAD, the president and his admin...etc.
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Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.
:facepalm:
NORAD does that stuff constantly. And has for 50 years.
I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on
But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down? Which is it?
Idk, Loose Change isn't the end all, be all of the 9/11 truth movement. It's a f*cking video that two college dudes made that raises questions
Let's look at some other facts:
Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11
Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.
Wouldn't Larry be labeled a fool if he hadn't taken out terrorist insurance on a building that had already been bombed by a terrorist? Good business decision on his part.
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First off, the U.S. Military wasn't even anywhere close to being the pre-eminent world power in 1941, so trying to compare U.S. military capability in 1941 to 2001 is absolutely absurd. However FDR has plenty of idea of what the Japanese were willing to do when the Japanese attacked and sank the USS Panay in 1937 on the Yangtze River in China.
"Is this real world or exercise" Look up those words as it relates to 9-11 and get back to me. Strange how NORAD was running an exercise that had U.S. interceptors off somewhere over Canada "intercepting" fake targets during Operation Northern Vigilance . . . how convenient.
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Silverstein paid $3.5 Billion for the 99 year lease of the WTC complex.
Final Insurance Payout total to Silverstein . . . $4.55 Billion (sources numerous). The insurers agreed to the Final $2 Billion in May of 2007, the $4.55 Billion was about $130 million less than what Silverstein and/or the Port Authority was seeking.
In addition Silverstein had a whose-who list of high powered politicians railing on the Insurers to quit stone walling, and Elliot Spitzer, in between nailing hot call girls had one of his insurance commission cronies step in to speed up a settlement.
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So do we have a tally on who the truthers are on here?
Truther
pike
sonofdaxjones
who else am I missing?
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
what facts have I ignored? :dunno:
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
what facts have I ignored? :dunno:
Everything dax and i said apparently, what have I ignored?
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
Didn't realize the Gov release the video of 2 planes hitting the WTC. Crafty gov version, convinced the entire island of Manhattan that 2 planes hit the towers.
PS. Read more on Weinstein. For a guy who knew it was coming, he cost himself billions. BILLIONS. But those are facts so ignore.
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
Didn't realize the Gov release the video of 2 planes hitting the WTC. Crafty gov version, convinced the entire island of Manhattan that 2 planes hit the towers.
PS. Read more on Weinstein. For a guy who knew it was coming, he cost himself billions. BILLIONS. But those are facts so ignore.
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Two questions:
1. What was the motive for the government to blow up the WTC, the Pentagon, and farmground in PA?
2. If the govt. had shot down all 4 planes using F-18's would there be similar "truther" type stuff? This of course we need to be answered in the context of whatever the answer to question 1 is.
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
Didn't realize the Gov release the video of 2 planes hitting the WTC. Crafty gov version, convinced the entire island of Manhattan that 2 planes hit the towers.
PS. Read more on Weinstein. For a guy who knew it was coming, he cost himself billions. BILLIONS. But those are facts so ignore.
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Your claim that we are beliving "the government's story"
OBL exists, the planes hit the towers. What is the version the gov is cleverly brainwashing everyone to believe and how is it different from what actually happened?
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I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him. It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.
Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so
So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.
Didn't realize the Gov release the video of 2 planes hitting the WTC. Crafty gov version, convinced the entire island of Manhattan that 2 planes hit the towers.
PS. Read more on Weinstein. For a guy who knew it was coming, he cost himself billions. BILLIONS. But those are facts so ignore.
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Your claim that we are beliving "the government's story"
OBL exists, the planes hit the towers. What is the version the gov is cleverly brainwashing everyone to believe and how is it different from what actually happened?
I never said the planes didn't hit the towers, but if you believe 100% of the govs story (which it appears you do) then you seriously need to look into this some more
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Two questions:
1. What was the motive for the government to blow up the WTC, the Pentagon, and farmground in PA?
2. If the govt. had shot down all 4 planes using F-18's would there be similar "truther" type stuff? This of course we need to be answered in the context of whatever the answer to question 1 is.
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
1. Well lets see here, we started two wars that we had no business getting into and now were about to start one with Iran. Also, the government can pass any legislation they want now to control us and people think it's ok because it's meant for the "terrorists". See the patriot act.
2. That's a really dumb question
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Here's a fox news hit piece on Jesse Ventura, but the dumbass writer instead proves that building 7 was a controlled demolition:
Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/21/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/
But keep ignoring the facts, dudes.
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Here's a fox news hit piece on Jesse Ventura, but the dumbass writer instead proves that building 7 was a controlled demolition:
Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/21/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/
But keep ignoring the facts, dudes.
That's a stretch even for you.
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Here's a fox news hit piece on Jesse Ventura, but the dumbass writer instead proves that building 7 was a controlled demolition:
Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/21/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/
But keep ignoring the facts, dudes.
That's a stretch even for you.
read it, straight from the horses mouth
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I'm starting to believe these Muslims are imaginary, like leprechauns. :frown:
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I'm starting to believe these Muslims are imaginary, like leprechauns. :frown:
That's another thing. The government/media has most of the population convinced that this is all the "Muslims" fault and that Islam is evil.
You know they also found nano thermite (a military grade explosive) in dust in of the collapsed towers?
Just keep ignoring facts, brau. I know you don't want to believe it, but the debunkers case just keeps falling apart each day
edit: Like do you people believe the only 'reliable' sources from 9/11 are government workers and reporters?
If so :lol:
Step outside the matrix
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
:runaway:
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
:runaway:
I tried to give you a way out...
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
:runaway:
I tried to give you a way out...
Are dax and I owning this thread or what?
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
:runaway:
I tried to give you a way out...
Are dax and I owning this thread or what?
considering i'm now more convinced that it was a terrorist attack.....no.
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
:runaway:
I tried to give you a way out...
Are dax and I owning this thread or what?
considering i'm now more convinced that it was a terrorist attack.....no.
By our own government...
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We're gonna need somebody to post as "pike" when the real one is silenced.
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We're gonna need somebody to post as "pike" when the real one is silenced.
fema camps :ohno:
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No f'n way is this performance by Pike real. This thread is a ruse in itself.
Didn't he have a bunch of tards convinced back on ksufans that he wouldn't go to hoop games if it was under 50 degrees?
Yeah dude that was when I was freshman and couldn't get to my truck when it was like 5 degrees out. I've missed maybe 5 games since.
And yeah it's real you tard, you're just too brainwashed to put together the facts
:lol:
Limestone, do your contacts know about what pike's been saying?
:runaway:
I tried to give you a way out...
Are dax and I owning this thread or what?
considering i'm now more convinced that it was a terrorist attack.....no.
By our own government...
Didn't realize the government was posting in this thread???
Although I'm sure they are monitoring. :users:
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
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Two questions:
1. What was the motive for the government to blow up the WTC, the Pentagon, and farmground in PA?
2. If the govt. had shot down all 4 planes using F-18's would there be similar "truther" type stuff? This of course we need to be answered in the context of whatever the answer to question 1 is.
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
1. Well lets see here, we started two wars that we had no business getting into and now were about to start one with Iran. Also, the government can pass any legislation they want now to control us and people think it's ok because it's meant for the "terrorists". See the patriot act.
2. That's a really dumb question
Oh okay, the motive was to start some wars and to create legislation to "control us". Wait, why did they want to do that?
What does not shooting down the planes change? (seemingly important part of the conspiracy is this NORAD bit)
Why did they need planes in the first place, couldn't they just impload the building (like some muslim tried in the 90's) the same way you said they did, then blame it on said muslims?
Was the government going for style points with the 747's while at the same time trying to look ignorant by not shooting them down?
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
hare as in o'hare airport? :runaway:
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
hare as in o'hare airport? :runaway:
LSOC misspelled it first
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
oh no :facepalm:
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
and? :dunno:
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My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
hare as in o'hare airport? :runaway:
LSOC misspelled it first
Or did he? :runaway:
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and what?
My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
hare as in o'hare airport? :runaway:
LSOC misspelled it first
Or did he? :runaway:
Idk I wasn't sure when I read it, so I spelled it the same way :dunno:
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and what?My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
hare as in o'hare airport? :runaway:
LSOC misspelled it first
Or did he? :runaway:
Idk I wasn't sure when I read it, so I spelled it the same way :dunno:
Let's put it this way. You don't want to be on a plane to Chicago tomorrow...
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and what?My contacts are only concerned about those who have facts, that are consistent and make even a little sense. Pike is all clear.
I guess you're clear than too, with that 9/11 commission report you believe so much :blindfold:
Is it a truther belief that if you get in the last post, your hare-brained theories are less hare-brained?
hare brained :lol:
hare as in o'hare airport? :runaway:
LSOC misspelled it first
Or did he? :runaway:
Idk I wasn't sure when I read it, so I spelled it the same way :dunno:
JFC pike. :facepalm:
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why hasn't Bin Laden come out and called the conspiracy? I mean think about it.... if he and the rest of the extremist muslim world yell BS, the American public would've revolted against Washington. Kinda weird that they haven't thought of that!!! :dunno:
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Bin laden is in on it.
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Was Saddam in on it? Pretty commited to the conspiracy if so.
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
This coming from someone that's never read anything not from the mainstream media
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
This coming from someone that's never read anything not from the mainstream media
Seriously, I could get some schmuck to fly a plane into the pentagon, making a video admitting everything, and you would try to convince the rest of the jury that they are all Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and that no plane hit the pentagon.
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
This coming from someone that's never read anything not from the mainstream media
Seriously, I could get some schmuck to fly a plane into the pentagon, making a video admitting everything, and you would try to convince the rest of the jury that they are all Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and that no plane hit the pentagon.
:jerk:
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
This coming from someone that's never read anything not from the mainstream media
Seriously, I could get some schmuck to fly a plane into the pentagon, making a video admitting everything, and you would try to convince the rest of the jury that they are all Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and that no plane hit the pentagon.
:jerk:
Let's revisit when you tried to make fun of me for using the term "hare-brained"
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
This coming from someone that's never read anything not from the mainstream media
Seriously, I could get some schmuck to fly a plane into the pentagon, making a video admitting everything, and you would try to convince the rest of the jury that they are all Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and that no plane hit the pentagon.
:jerk:
Let's revisit when you tried to make fun of me for using the term "hare-brained"
:jerk:
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I think that Pike is a defense attorney's dream juror. Also, I don't think he's ever read The Tortoise and the Hare.
This coming from someone that's never read anything not from the mainstream media
Seriously, I could get some schmuck to fly a plane into the pentagon, making a video admitting everything, and you would try to convince the rest of the jury that they are all Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and that no plane hit the pentagon.
:jerk:
Let's revisit when you tried to make fun of me for using the term "hare-brained"
:jerk:
last post, I'm right!
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
He didn't go to flight school to get an A. He went to flight school to learn the basics of how to crash a plane.
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:love: Pike is adorable.
Love you Pike.
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
He didn't go to flight school to get an A. He went to flight school to learn the basics of how to crash a plane.
He learned how to crash a Cessna, not a 757
:love: Pike is adorable.
Love you Pike.
Uh, thanks.
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Pike. You embarrass even me.
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I think we are all used to viewing plane crashes and wreckage in which the pilots are trying "not to crash", ie, low throttle and flaps fully extended. In these 3 cases, the pilots are in full throttle dives, probably reaching speeds that are nearly the speed of sound. There is going to be very little recognizable wreckage after a collision with a building at those speeds. JMO. :driving:
Very good point.
Now just explain how a flight school drop out was able to do that and make such a precise hit
He didn't go to flight school to get an A. He went to flight school to learn the basics of how to crash a plane.
Heh.
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Pike's whole argument right now is how difficult it is to crash a plane....that was already flying.... :dunno:
I guarantee that I could crash an already flying 757, and I don't know the first thing about planes.
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Pike's whole argument right now is how difficult it is to crash a plane....that was already flying.... :dunno:
I guarantee that I could crash an already flying 757, and I don't know the first thing about planes.
Are you sure you don't want to argue the merits of the Law of Gravity?
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Pike's whole argument right now is how difficult it is to crash a plane....that was already flying.... :dunno:
I guarantee that I could crash an already flying 757, and I don't know the first thing about planes.
Are you sure you don't want to argue the merits of the Law of Gravity?
Theory! It's just a theory of gravity!
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Pike's whole argument right now is how difficult it is to crash a plane....that was already flying.... :dunno:
I guarantee that I could crash an already flying 757, and I don't know the first thing about planes.
Are you sure you don't want to argue the merits of the Law of Gravity?
Theory! It's just a theory of gravity!
Chings, I like you and we have met so I owe you this. I have reported you to my handler.
I am sorry, but you are getting too close.
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Pike's whole argument right now is how difficult it is to crash a plane....that was already flying.... :dunno:
I guarantee that I could crash an already flying 757, and I don't know the first thing about planes.
Are you sure you don't want to argue the merits of the Law of Gravity?
Theory! It's just a theory of gravity!
:jerk:
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Pike's whole argument right now is how difficult it is to crash a plane....that was already flying.... :dunno:
I guarantee that I could crash an already flying 757, and I don't know the first thing about planes.
Are you sure you don't want to argue the merits of the Law of Gravity?
Theory! It's just a theory of gravity!
:jerk:
BAN IT FROM TEXTBOOKS NOW
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I crash 757's in Microsoft Flight Simulator all the time.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6430933n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
Jihadists and "The Narrative"
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Pilots for 9-11 truth have looked at the suppossed flight paths and flight characteristics and they are sayin it was some "$hit hot" flying. Particularly by a guy who a few weeks earlier couldn't get checked out on a Cessna in regards to the Pentagon Pilot.
It's not a matter of hitting the Pentagon, it's a matter of the flight path, angles of attack, speeds, and turns that were executed by a guy who supposedly 2 weeks earlier couldn't get a Cessna back to the ground, but a few weeks later he got a 757 lined up perfectly to make a 400 plus knot run directly into the side of the Pentagon after executing multiple complex movements in a plane he'd never flown or been checked out on.
Fascinating.
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Yeah, I'm sure crashing a plane into the ground takes tons of practice.
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Pilots for 9-11 truth have looked at the suppossed flight paths and flight characteristics and they are sayin it was some "$hit hot" flying. Particularly by a guy who a few weeks earlier couldn't get checked out on a Cessna in regards to the Pentagon Pilot.
It's not a matter of hitting the Pentagon, it's a matter of the flight path, angles of attack, speeds, and turns that were executed by a guy who supposedly 2 weeks earlier couldn't get a Cessna back to the ground, but a few weeks later he got a 757 lined up perfectly to make a 400 plus knot run directly into the side of the Pentagon after executing multiple complex movements in a plane he'd never flown or been checked out on.
Fascinating.
The power of Allah is great!
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Pilots for 9-11 truth have looked at the suppossed flight paths and flight characteristics and they are sayin it was some "$hit hot" flying. Particularly by a guy who a few weeks earlier couldn't get checked out on a Cessna in regards to the Pentagon Pilot.
It's not a matter of hitting the Pentagon, it's a matter of the flight path, angles of attack, speeds, and turns that were executed by a guy who supposedly 2 weeks earlier couldn't get a Cessna back to the ground, but a few weeks later he got a 757 lined up perfectly to make a 400 plus knot run directly into the side of the Pentagon after executing multiple complex movements in a plane he'd never flown or been checked out on.
Fascinating.
Well at least they got an objective source. :surprised:
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Last post! You're right!
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
how do we know who was even piloting?
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
how do we know who was even piloting?
Well I thought we all believe what the government told us right?
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
Maybe he printed off this page and took it on the plane with him. http://www.flightsim.com/main/howto/747.htm (http://www.flightsim.com/main/howto/747.htm)
Just skip the section about landing and you're good to go.
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Maybe this is the flight school the terrorists went to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hEYiqkwy-4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hEYiqkwy-4&feature=related)
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
Maybe he printed off this page and took it on the plane with him. http://www.flightsim.com/main/howto/747.htm (http://www.flightsim.com/main/howto/747.htm)
Just skip the section about landing and you're good to go.
Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
how do we know who was even piloting?
Well I thought we all believe what the government told us right?
Don't rough ridin' BMW jedi mind trick me. Answer the question.
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Is Brook Berringer even dead? :runaway:
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.
Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward :blank:
What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.
Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.
how do we know who was even piloting?
Well I thought we all believe what the government told us right?
Don't fracking BMW jedi mind trick me. Answer the question.
Hani Hanjour, according to the FBI director. But he's probably lying like the rest of 'em.
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Is Brook Berringer even dead? :runaway:
Has been since 9/11
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.
Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student.
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.
Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student.
Know a commercial pilot. The first time he landed a commercial plane in real life, there were 300 people on board. :ohno:
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.
Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student.
These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science. Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.
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I'm guessing it would actually be fairly challenging. A 747 probably handles like a friggin dumptruck. You'd have to make quite a few pre-crash adjustments based on many variables.
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.
Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student.
These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science. Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.
For the first time ever, I agree with you.
Not to mention there's video footage of a Commercial Plane crashing into the pentagon, so it doesn't really matter if they could have done it, they did do it.
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.
Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student.
These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science. Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.
For the first time ever, I agree with you.
Not to mention there's video footage of a Commercial Plane crashing into the pentagon, so it doesn't really matter if they could have done it, they did do it.
JFC now you people think that crashing a 747 into a building is as easy as Modern Warfare 2? :facepalm:
Sugardick, please provide said video. I haven't seen nor heard of this yet.
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
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Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.
http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx (http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx)
It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement. :dunno:
Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?
Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.
Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student.
These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science. Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.
For the first time ever, I agree with you.
Not to mention there's video footage of a Commercial Plane crashing into the pentagon, so it doesn't really matter if they could have done it, they did do it.
JFC now you people think that crashing a 747 into a building is as easy as Modern Warfare 2? :facepalm:
Sugardick, please provide said video. I haven't seen nor heard of this yet.
I was agreeing with the premise that flying a plane into a huge building probably isn't as hard as everyone on here thinks, not that some kid playing a video game could actually do it. It was a joke
I don't actually have the video so I can't mail it to you. It's security film from a gate into the pentagon parking lot that caught the image in the background.
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Had a roommate in college that was a flight instructor ( now flies for Southwest) and he let me take the controls while in the air, and there really is nothing difficult about it. Landing is by far the most difficult part of flying.
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
What if he wasn't aiming for where he hit?? He coulda been trying to crash somewhere else, but since he couldn't "hot crap" fly....he ended up there. :dunno:
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
What if he wasn't aiming for where he hit?? He coulda been trying to crash somewhere else, but since he couldn't "hot crap" fly....he ended up there. :dunno:
Yeah, that's what we're told to believe. But it just so happened that he hit the Pentagon perpendicular to the building and parallel to the ground. Amazing.
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Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
What if he wasn't aiming for where he hit?? He coulda been trying to crash somewhere else, but since he couldn't "hot crap" fly....he ended up there. :dunno:
Yeah, that's what we're told to believe. But it just so happened that he hit the Pentagon perpendicular to the building and parallel to the ground. Amazing.
They did go to flight school and take multiple flight simulation courses.
:dunno:
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Question for Conspiracy Theorists: Who is "they"?
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Question for Conspiracy Theorists: Who is "they"?
zionists, the jews, big oil and the new world order. :opcat:
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Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this.
There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret.
Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757, and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.
If you can't believe "the Pilots for 9-11 truth" who can you believe?
:dunno:
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Question for Conspiracy Theorists: Who is "they"?
Or just the government, but the nwo is plausible
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
Wouldn't a real pilot have been able to to line the plane up during this flight that went "many miles" so that he wouldn't have to make the intricate series of turns and descents at high speed?
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
Wouldn't a real pilot have been able to to line the plane up during this flight that went "many miles" so that he wouldn't have to make the intricate series of turns and descents at high speed?
Wouldn't a real pilot have stuck in in the middle of the pentagon instead of clumsily hitting the outer ring where the low level synchophants work?
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Question for Conspiracy Theorists: Who is "they"?
Or just the government, but the nwo is plausible
Everyone who works for the government?
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Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?
It was on the History channel or something. They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened.
They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?" The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place". Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.
They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible. It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't). They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives. The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.
You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.
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Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?
It was on the History channel or something. They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened.
They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?" The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place". Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.
They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible. It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't). They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives. The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.
You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.
That show was broadcast by the government-controlled media. The only news that's real news comes from internet blogs, where people don't need worthless crap like sources or credentials.
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Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?
It was on the History channel or something. They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened.
They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?" The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place". Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.
They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible. It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't). They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives. The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.
You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.
That show was broadcast by the government-controlled media. The only news that's real news comes from internet blogs, where people don't need worthless crap like sources or credentials.
:lol:
And BTW, the NWO is not only "plausible"....
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Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?
It was on the History channel or something. They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened.
They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?" The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place". Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.
They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible. It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't). They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives. The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.
You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.
That show was broadcast by the government-controlled media. The only news that's real news comes from internet blogs, where people don't need worthless crap like sources or credentials.
Nailed it
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So Pike, how deep does this conspiracy run? Was it just the Bush administration, or was congress involved as well? Any military involvement? Do you have any names other than Bush and any evidence not in the form of a question?
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So Pike, how deep does this conspiracy run? Was it just the Bush administration, or was congress involved as well? Any military involvement? Do you have any names other than Bush and any evidence not in the form of a question?
I think it was the "ruling class". You know, the "elite". Ever hear of the Bilderbergers? Some congresspeople are guilty but most are not. Bush had obvious intentions with the whole oil thing.
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Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon. It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.
The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots.
That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours. Got damn . . . amazing. :facepalm:
Wouldn't a real pilot have been able to to line the plane up during this flight that went "many miles" so that he wouldn't have to make the intricate series of turns and descents at high speed?
Umm . . . a lot of flying, particularly in large airplanes requires a series of intricate steps to execute a plan, 757's aren't helicopters or 4 wheelers in the pasture.
To line a 757 with auto pilot up with the pentagon (known coordinates) from 2 states away, when you don't have to follow a flight plan, or observe no fly areas, or noise codes is probably easier than flying a helicopter.
But I think you are just humoring the conspiracy theorists, right? Otherwise :facepalm:
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Yeah, an auto pilot helped the guy get to Washington, but it didn't fly the plane in the critical last few minutes nor get the aircraft set up to hit the Pentagon where it did.
Plus, here's another really simple question Flight 77 hit the Pentagon nearly 37 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the WTC, and nearly an hour after the 1st plane hit the WTC.
Where was the fighter cover for Washington DC?? Oh yeah, our multi-trillion dollar national defense system still had "its pants down". Designed to find and intercept Russian Backfire and Bear Strategic Bombers and track 1000's of space vehicles and incoming ICBM's . . . completely incapable of stopping an airliner from hitting the Pentagon nearly an hour after it got one of the biggest wake up calls in world history. Not even Hollywood could conjure up such a tale.
Maybe they knew how impossible it would be for these guys to hit their target? :dunno:
(I mean the guys flying the planes that could never had flown with such accuracy given their training)
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Yeah, an auto pilot helped the guy get to Washington, but it didn't fly the plane in the critical last few minutes nor get the aircraft set up to hit the Pentagon where it did.
Plus, here's another really simple question Flight 77 hit the Pentagon nearly 37 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the WTC, and nearly an hour after the 1st plane hit the WTC.
Where was the fighter cover for Washington DC?? Oh yeah, our multi-trillion dollar national defense system still had "its pants down". Designed to find and intercept Russian Backfire and Bear Strategic Bombers and track 1000's of space vehicles and incoming ICBM's . . . completely incapable of stopping an airliner from hitting the Pentagon nearly an hour after it got one of the biggest wake up calls in world history. Not even Hollywood could conjure up such a tale.
Maybe they knew how impossible it would be for these guys to hit their target? :dunno:
By september of 2001, an air attack on Washington by the Russians had, for some reason, faded from our priorities. weird, I know.
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Yeah, an auto pilot helped the guy get to Washington, but it didn't fly the plane in the critical last few minutes nor get the aircraft set up to hit the Pentagon where it did.
Plus, here's another really simple question Flight 77 hit the Pentagon nearly 37 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the WTC, and nearly an hour after the 1st plane hit the WTC.
Where was the fighter cover for Washington DC?? Oh yeah, our multi-trillion dollar national defense system still had "its pants down". Designed to find and intercept Russian Backfire and Bear Strategic Bombers and track 1000's of space vehicles and incoming ICBM's . . . completely incapable of stopping an airliner from hitting the Pentagon nearly an hour after it got one of the biggest wake up calls in world history. Not even Hollywood could conjure up such a tale.
Well that's the thing, NORAD conveniently scrambled all the fighter jets in the country for some "war games" bullshit. Leaving no fighters to intercept hijacked commercial jets, like they usually do. Just another coincidence from that day I suppose......psh
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pike, you better come to the next big pak (probably the UCLA game) and be as spirited about all this in real life as you are on the board.
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pike, you better come to the next big pak (probably the UCLA game) and be as spirited about all this in real life as you are on the board.
It's really hard to pull off in real life, but it can be done.
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.
The true definition of irony. You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right?
:confused:
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.
The true definition of irony. You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right?
:confused:
See I don't even know that much about Roswell
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.
The true definition of irony. You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right?
:confused:
you do realize that the term "UFO" is used quite often, dont you? :confused:
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.
The true definition of irony. You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right?
:confused:
you do realize that the term "UFO" is used quite often, dont you? :confused:
Yeah, if the weather balloon was unidentified and in the air, then it's a UFO. If it crashed, it's a "crashed UFO".
BMW isn't a very smart fella
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pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell?
Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.
The true definition of irony. You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right?
:confused:
you do realize that the term "UFO" is used quite often, dont you? :confused:
Yeah, if the weather balloon was unidentified and in the air, then it's a UFO. If it crashed, it's a "crashed UFO".
BMW isn't a very smart fella
Poor beems. :facepalm:
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The actual term they used was "flying saucer." I used the term "UFO" because most people relate that to an extraterrestrial spacecraft, as opposed to arguing semantics just for the sake of argument. You guys are a bunch of dicks.
Take it easy buddy......take it easy. Just relax, big glass of ice water....maybe some situps/pushups to burn it off.
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The actual term they used was "flying saucer." I used the term "UFO" because most people relate that to an extraterrestrial spacecraft, as opposed to arguing semantics just for the sake of argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident)
On July 8, 1947, Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) public information office in Roswell, New Mexico, issued a press release [3] stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed "flying disc" from a ranch near Roswell, sparking intense media interest. The following day, the press reported that Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a radar-tracking balloon had been recovered by the RAAF personnel, not a "flying disc."[4] A subsequent press conference was called, featuring debris from the crashed object that confirmed the weather balloon description.
:jerk:
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Of course, the RAF
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident)
:lol: :lol:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident)
:lol: :lol:
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Here's more, Dick Face (you will probably enjoy this too, pike):
http://www.roswellfiles.com/story.htm (http://www.roswellfiles.com/story.htm)
http://www.roswellfiles.com/witness.htm (http://www.roswellfiles.com/witness.htm)
"The many rumors regarding the flying disk became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eight Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the co-operation of one of the local ranchers and the Sheriff's Office of Chaves county.
"The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc until such time as he was able to contact the Sheriff's office, who in turn notified Major Jesse A. Marcel, of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence office.
"Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher's home. It was inspected at the Roswell Army Air Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher headquarters."
(San Francisco Chronicle - July 9, 1947)
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Here's more, Dick Face (you will probably enjoy this too, pike):
http://www.roswellfiles.com/story.htm (http://www.roswellfiles.com/story.htm)
http://www.roswellfiles.com/witness.htm (http://www.roswellfiles.com/witness.htm)
"The many rumors regarding the flying disk became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eight Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the co-operation of one of the local ranchers and the Sheriff's Office of Chaves county.
"The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc until such time as he was able to contact the Sheriff's office, who in turn notified Major Jesse A. Marcel, of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence office.
"Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher's home. It was inspected at the Roswell Army Air Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher headquarters."
(San Francisco Chronicle - July 9, 1947)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Does anyone know if Sugar Dick happens to be mentally disabled?
:confused:
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Does anyone know if Sugar Dick happens to be mentally disabled?
:confused:
says the guy posting Area 51 hullabaloo
:lol: :lol:
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Does anyone know if Sugar Dick happens to be mentally disabled?
:confused:
says the guy posting Area 51 hullabaloo
:lol: :lol:
Wow... just wow.
:facepalm:
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I believe in aliens. Dunno about Roswell and all that though.
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I believe in aliens. Dunno about Roswell and all that though.
As long as they are legal aliens, no big deal....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident)
:lol: :lol:
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:jerk:
You gping to believe the government run media? Seems to contradict earlier points. :dunno:
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There are a lot of crazies saying they see UFO's every now and then.
There are also a lot of high ranking military officials and pilots that say the same thing.
Take that for whatever its worth.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident)
:lol: :lol:
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You gping to believe the government run media? Seems to contradict earlier points. :dunno:
Actually, it's the opposite. The initial report was that the government recovered a flying saucer. After that, the media tried to say it was a weather balloon. The main reason I brought up Roswell was to see if pike was essentially Mel Gibson from "Conspiracy Theory," or simply a "truther." It appears he's the latter.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident)
:lol: :lol:
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:jerk:
You gping to believe the government run media? Seems to contradict earlier points. :dunno:
Actually, it's the opposite. The initial report was that the government recovered a flying saucer. After that, the media tried to say it was a weather balloon. The main reason I brought up Roswell was to see if pike was essentially Mel Gibson from "Conspiracy Theory," or simply a "truther." It appears he's the latter.
Correct
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Is there an objective cheat sheet for which media is government ran and which isn't?
Or is just the ones you disagree with are gov ran and the other are legit?
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Is there an objective cheat sheet for which media is government ran and which isn't?
Or is just the ones you disagree with are gov ran and the other are legit?
All of them
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Is there an objective cheat sheet for which media is government ran and which isn't?
Or is just the ones you disagree with are gov ran and the other are legit?
All of them
so no flying saucer at Roswell.
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Megadeth has convinced me of two things: Aliens exist, and the fact that so few schools are using this song as their pregame football intro video music means that we've been wasting our time on healthcare when more important things await Congress...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsD2tBPZgo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsD2tBPZgo)
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Is there an objective cheat sheet for which media is government ran and which isn't?
Or is just the ones you disagree with are gov ran and the other are legit?
WTF are you talking about?
:confused:
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Is there an objective cheat sheet for which media is government ran and which isn't?
Or is just the ones you disagree with are gov ran and the other are legit?
WTF are you talking about?
:confused:
Are you saying you can't read, or can't understand?
I will Beems it down for you.
You/Pike claimed the "government run" media spreads mis-information about 9/11 and other conspiracies. Yet, you cite a newspaper (media) as a source for your proof that a flying saucer crashed at Roswell. My question then was are the media you sources you disagree with those that are run by the government, and the others are okay?
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Is there an objective cheat sheet for which media is government ran and which isn't?
Or is just the ones you disagree with are gov ran and the other are legit?
WTF are you talking about?
:confused:
Are you saying you can't read, or can't understand?
I will Beems it down for you.
You/Pike claimed the "government run" media spreads mis-information about 9/11 and other conspiracies. Yet, you cite a newspaper (media) as a source for your proof that a flying saucer crashed at Roswell. My question then was are the media you sources you disagree with those that are run by the government, and the others are okay?
I'm not a "truther." I was just curious if pike believed in the Roswell conspiracy. My point was that the newspapers originally said that the government had recovered a flying saucer, but the media retracted that story later and said it was a weather balloon. In that case, the cover-up was the weather balloon, not the flying saucer. Do you get it yet?
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How in the hell did I miss this until now!? :ksu:
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balloons are round, saucers are round.
dunno.
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balloons are round, saucers are round.
dunno.
That's exactly what the government WANTS you to think. pawn
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There are declassified Air Force documents of flying saucer blueprints. I'm not even saying that the UFO they recovered in Roswell was an extraterrestrial spacecraft, but I have a hard time believing the cover-up story that it was a weather balloon. Our military's technology is way beyond what they unveil to the public.
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Our military's technology is way beyond what they unveil to the public.
And with no good reason either! :curse:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
:dunno:
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Obama hasn't shown his authentic birth certificate. He's shown a different variety but not the long form version. Probably because he was born in Indonesia.
"a study from the United States Justice Foundation has released information showing that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds with 11 law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records."
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The state of Hawaii doesn't release original birth certificates.
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The state of Hawaii doesn't release original birth certificates.
I bet they would release his if Obama asked them to do so.
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The state of Hawaii doesn't release original birth certificates.
I bet they would release his if Obama asked them to do so.
Why's that?
:confused:
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The state of Hawaii doesn't release original birth certificates.
I bet they would release his if Obama asked them to do so.
Why's that?
:confused:
Because he is the president? :dunno:
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states rights.
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states rights.
Good to know you support Arizona. :eye:
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states rights.
Good to know you support Arizona. :eye:
If you were pulled over for a speeding ticket, would you be able to show the cop your birth certificate?
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states rights.
Good to know you support Arizona. :eye:
If you were pulled over for a speeding ticket, would you be able to show the cop your birth certificate?
I would be able to show my DL, and if I were in a foreign country, I sure as hell would be able to show my passport as well.
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states rights.
Good to know you support Arizona. :eye:
If you were pulled over for a speeding ticket, would you be able to show the cop your birth certificate?
At this point a legal drivers license is proof of citizenship. That's why DL's for illegals is such a stupid idea (also allows you to vote). You should have to provide a birth certificate to get a DL.
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http://www.eutimes.net/2010/04/entire-us-government-said-knows-obama-ineligible-for-office/
:surprised: :bwpopcorn:
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http://www.eutimes.net/2010/04/entire-us-government-said-knows-obama-ineligible-for-office/
:surprised: :bwpopcorn:
This link shows the missing DNC nomination language.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221 (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221)
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Johnny here is question some fellar citizan ahould weigh in on. Should illegals be allowed to vote in local elections? Advice. What say you? Rightwingerthinger Renocats say Bullshaltz,
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/07/maryland-city-mulling-over-idea-to-let-undocumented-residents-vote.html
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Ha, I totally forgot john dougie was a birther :lol:
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Holy crap, classic Dougie
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I miss trolling beems.
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Oh man, I was looking through RAtM's old posts to try and find one that got quoted, since I didn't remember his old name (Nuts Kicked). I stumbled on the earlier pages of this thread, and my goodness does this board miss @pike . How fun would he be right now? I mean, he took a birther thread into 9/11 trutherisms!
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Couldn't care less about Obama and where he was born.
But I always find it fascinating how dismissive people are of anyone who raises legit questions. Popular Mechanics or Science also thought Area 51 moved to an abandoned DOD missile range in Utah. People literally walk in and out of the place every day, there's nothing there but empty buildings and tumbleweeds. And no, I don't think they have Aliens at Area 51, it's just a fascinating place because you know they're working on some really funky $hit, and they literally fly in the workers from a terminal at McCarren in Las Vegas on a DOD owned airline code named "Janet" . . . some people just simply can't grasp how massive our countries military complex is, and how many billions get spent every year on black projects.
There's plenty of legit questions around 9-11. Guys that flunked out of flight schools that can peform in airliner at a level that takes the most experienced pilots years to master. Most experts understand that there's no way AQ pulled off an operation like 9-11 without the help of a state sanctioned intelligence agency. Plus ask yourself, where can you trace the roots of AQ to?? Well, to the United States and the CIA that's who. We started the f_ckers back when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The former lead investigator of AQ dies on his 2nd day on the job, on 9-11 as the head of security at the WTC complex. The guy resigned from the FBI because he kept getting stone walled by internal forces everytime he was about to get something really juicy on AQ . . . why is that?? He dies in the freaking WTC on 9-11 . . . oh yeah, just another coincidence.
But hey, never question, always believe what the government tells you. Sure, an ex marine with an old piece of $hit italian military rifle blew the president of the United States head off from hundreds of feet away while the pres was in a moving vechicle . . . right. Oh, but he was trained to shoot in the marines . . . sure he was, trainied to shoot precision made firearms, not piece of $hit bolt action rifles. Those are the kinds of shots it takes years to master using precision made and sighted in weapons, not piece of $hit Italian rifles.
Trump has ruined dax :frown: