Serious question for right wing folks

[pike]

Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this. 

There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret. 

Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757,  and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.

Yes, you have to be a "hot $hit" pilot to know that pushing the stick forward will cause the plane to go down. If the pilot had made those maneuvers and then successfully landed, you might have a point.

Yeah cause flying a 757 like he did is as easy as pushing a stick forward 

What exactly did he do that was impressive? Please be specific.

Turning at a difficult angle from really high up and then navigating to strike the pentagon precisely. Amazing that this guy couldn't even fly a Cessna but could do that.

how do we know who was even piloting?

Well I thought we all believe what the government told us right?

Don't fracking BMW jedi mind trick me. Answer the question.

Hani Hanjour, according to the FBI director. But he's probably lying like the rest of 'em.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Is Brook Berringer even dead? 

Has been since 9/11

[Rage Against the McKee]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

[pike]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

[Saulbadguy]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.

Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student. 

[felix rex]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.

Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student. 

Know a commercial pilot. The first time he landed a commercial plane in real life, there were 300 people on board. 

[OregonSmock]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.

Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student. 

These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science.  Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.

[Saulbadguy]

I'm guessing it would actually be fairly challenging.  A 747 probably handles like a friggin dumptruck.  You'd have to make quite a few pre-crash adjustments based on many variables.

[Sugar Dick]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.

Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student. 

These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science.  Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.

For the first time ever, I agree with you. 

Not to mention there's video footage of a Commercial Plane crashing into the pentagon, so it doesn't really matter if they could have done it, they did do it.

[pike]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.

Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student. 

These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science.  Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.

For the first time ever, I agree with you. 

Not to mention there's video footage of a Commercial Plane crashing into the pentagon, so it doesn't really matter if they could have done it, they did do it.

JFC now you people think that crashing a 747 into a building is as easy as Modern Warfare 2? 

Sugardick, please provide said video. I haven't seen nor heard of this yet.

[sonofdaxjones]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

[Sugar Dick]

Another thing that baffles me is that we're supposed to believe these dudes learned how to fly by using flight sim. Yeah right.

http://aviation.cocc.edu/Aviation+Courses/default.aspx

It appears that the aviation program at Central Oregon Community College has at least 7 courses with flight simulator training as a requirement.

Yeah but we're told to believe that they learned from microsoft flight simulator. Cause arrow keys and a computer screen are the same thing, ya know?

Generally those Flight Simulator classes have full scale mock ups of the cockpit of the equipment you are piloting.

Ask any "K-State@Salina" aviation student. 

These truthers act like crashing a plane into a large building is rocket science.  Hell, there are probably a million 12 year-olds who play Modern Warfare 2 on XBox/PS3 that could learn how to crash a plane in about 10 hours.

For the first time ever, I agree with you. 

Not to mention there's video footage of a Commercial Plane crashing into the pentagon, so it doesn't really matter if they could have done it, they did do it.

JFC now you people think that crashing a 747 into a building is as easy as Modern Warfare 2? 

Sugardick, please provide said video. I haven't seen nor heard of this yet.

I was agreeing with the premise that flying a plane into a huge building probably isn't as hard as everyone on here thinks, not that some kid playing a video game could actually do it.  It was a joke

I don't actually have the video so I can't mail it to you.  It's security film from a gate into the pentagon parking lot that caught the image in the background.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Had a roommate in college that was a flight instructor ( now flies for Southwest) and he let me take the controls while in the air, and there really is nothing difficult about it. Landing is by far the most difficult part of flying.

[WillieWatanabe]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

What if he wasn't aiming for where he hit?? He coulda been trying to crash somewhere else, but since he couldn't "hot crap" fly....he ended up there.

[pike]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

What if he wasn't aiming for where he hit?? He coulda been trying to crash somewhere else, but since he couldn't "hot crap" fly....he ended up there.

Yeah, that's what we're told to believe. But it just so happened that he hit the Pentagon perpendicular to the building and parallel to the ground. Amazing.

[pike]

Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?

[OregonSmock]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

What if he wasn't aiming for where he hit?? He coulda been trying to crash somewhere else, but since he couldn't "hot crap" fly....he ended up there.

Yeah, that's what we're told to believe. But it just so happened that he hit the Pentagon perpendicular to the building and parallel to the ground. Amazing.

They did go to flight school and take multiple flight simulation courses.   
 

[_33]

Question for Conspiracy Theorists:  Who is "they"?

[Dugout DickStone]

Question for Conspiracy Theorists:  Who is "they"?

zionists, the jews, big oil and the new world order.   

[Dugout DickStone]

Limestone you seem to be quite upset about this. 

There is no need for your definition of an "objective source" when the movements and flight path of the airplane are all there for everyone to see and interpret. 

Again, some "$hit hot" flying for a flight school reject, who was not credentialed in any form or fashion in a Boeing 757,  and no amount of Limestone obfuscation and ranting is going to change that reality.

If you can't believe "the Pilots for 9-11 truth" who can you believe?

 

[pike]

Question for Conspiracy Theorists:  Who is "they"?

Or just the government, but the nwo is plausible

[Rage Against the McKee]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

Wouldn't a real pilot have been able to to line the plane up during this flight that went "many miles" so that he wouldn't have to make the intricate series of turns and descents at high speed?

[Dugout DickStone]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

Wouldn't a real pilot have been able to to line the plane up during this flight that went "many miles" so that he wouldn't have to make the intricate series of turns and descents at high speed?

Wouldn't a real pilot have stuck in in the middle of the pentagon instead of clumsily hitting the outer ring where the low level synchophants work?

[_33]

Question for Conspiracy Theorists:  Who is "they"?

Or just the government, but the nwo is plausible

Everyone who works for the government?

[Sugar Dick]

Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?

It was on the History channel or something.  They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened. 

They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?"  The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place".  Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.

They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible.  It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't).  They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives.  The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.

You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.