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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #125 on: April 23, 2010, 10:10:36 PM »
Understood . . . still some $hit hot flying just to get into position.

But hey a Trillion dollar defense system just "got caught with their pants down" (shrug).


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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #126 on: April 23, 2010, 10:13:21 PM »
they didn't get caught with their pants down.  They just didn't communicate and act upon it.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #127 on: April 23, 2010, 10:49:07 PM »
Understood . . . still some $hit hot flying just to get into position.

But hey a Trillion dollar defense system just "got caught with their pants down" (shrug).



Was Pearl Harbor an inside job too?

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2010, 03:57:09 AM »
Understood . . . still some $hit hot flying just to get into position.

But hey a Trillion dollar defense system just "got caught with their pants down" (shrug).



Was Pearl Harbor an inside job too?

No, but they knew it was coming just so we could enter WWII. I know you doods buy everything that the gov tells you, but the gov lies, lies, and lies some more.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #129 on: April 24, 2010, 04:09:23 AM »
they didn't get caught with their pants down.  They just didn't communicate and act upon it.

Yeah it just happens that NORAD was conducting war games all across the states, and then when 4 planes got hijacked they went 0/4 on intercepting them all. NORAD's previous record was 100%.

Very strange dudes, very strange.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #130 on: April 24, 2010, 04:10:23 AM »
they didn't get caught with their pants down.  They just didn't communicate and act upon it.

Yeah it just happens that NORAD was conducting war games all across the states, and then when 4 planes got hijacked they went 0/4 on intercepting them all. NORAD's previous record was 100%.

Very strange dudes, very strange.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #131 on: April 24, 2010, 10:09:32 AM »
Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.

 :facepalm:

NORAD does that stuff constantly.  And has for 50 years. 

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #132 on: April 24, 2010, 12:23:39 PM »
I have a friend who is a Truther.  It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story.  Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question.  The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense.  Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies.  And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges." 

I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement.  Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you. 

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #133 on: April 24, 2010, 01:06:05 PM »
I have a friend who is a Truther.  It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story.  Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question.  The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense.  Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies.  And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges." 

I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement.  Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you


You can throw man made global warming in there, also.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #134 on: April 24, 2010, 01:57:16 PM »
I have a friend who is a Truther.  It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story.  Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question.  The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense.  Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies.  And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges." 

I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement.  Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you. 


They also say there were no "black boxes" recovered even though there were.  You can listen to the voice recorder from Flt 93 on several sites.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #135 on: April 24, 2010, 07:01:23 PM »
Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.

 :facepalm:

NORAD does that stuff constantly.  And has for 50 years. 

I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #136 on: April 24, 2010, 07:02:43 PM »
I have a friend who is a Truther.  It's funny because he hates religion, but he's convinced about the 9/11 inside job story.  Every time I try to debunk something he believes, he just comes up with a different question.  The one that bugs me is the melting of the steel argument, which makes no sense.  Apparently a really heavy building can only collapse if steel liquifies.  And the advancing air column that was "explosive charges." 

I can't help but see the parallels between religion and the 9/11 truth movement.  Both require you to throw out copious amounts of evidence and go along with what a select few "experts" tell you. 


So you believe in religion and don't think anything is strange about 9/11?

 :lol:

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #137 on: April 24, 2010, 09:16:06 PM »
Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.

 :facepalm:

NORAD does that stuff constantly.  And has for 50 years. 

I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on

But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down?  Which is it?

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #138 on: April 24, 2010, 09:36:49 PM »
Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.

 :facepalm:

NORAD does that stuff constantly.  And has for 50 years. 

I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on

But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down?  Which is it?

Idk, Loose Change isn't the end all, be all of the 9/11 truth movement. It's a f*cking video that two college dudes made that raises questions


Let's look at some other facts:

Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11

Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #139 on: April 24, 2010, 09:38:41 PM »
Let's look at some other facts:

Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11

Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.

I just KNEW the jews were behind it.  DAMN YOU SAUL!

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #140 on: April 24, 2010, 10:03:55 PM »
I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him.  It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #141 on: April 24, 2010, 10:08:28 PM »
I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him.  It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.

It won't stop until the government (which has been intently monitoring this thread) silences him for good.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #142 on: April 24, 2010, 10:22:58 PM »
Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.

 :facepalm:

NORAD does that stuff constantly.  And has for 50 years. 

I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on

But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down?  Which is it?

Idk, Loose Change isn't the end all, be all of the 9/11 truth movement. It's a f*cking video that two college dudes made that raises questions


Let's look at some other facts:

Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11

Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.

Now you are reciting internet whack job theories.  But, if you wish to prove your point, shoot me a reputable link that shows both the chronology of Silverstein's insurance purchase, and that he profited $500 million.  And please understand that "profit" means to make money above the loss.  So, take his ultimate insurance payout, subtract the value of the properties that were destroyed as well as the legal fees in

In the meantime, do a little research on the litigation that surrounded his policies, and the excess layers of insurance, and excess insurers.  They range from Allianz, to Lloyds, to Travelers etc.  I had some classmates who were absolutely on the ground floor of the litigation and if he (Silverstein) was aware of an impending terrorist attack on his property and sought to get rich off of it, he did it the dumbest way possible, and by purchasing a policy that only had a 50-50 chance of paying for both towers.

So, in your mind, in all seriousness, who all knew about this plot?  Silverstein and his people, all of those people who traded airline stock, NORAD, the president and his admin...etc.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #143 on: April 24, 2010, 10:28:20 PM »
Yeah, NORAD decided to conduct the first operations EVER on 9/11.

 :facepalm:

NORAD does that stuff constantly.  And has for 50 years. 

I never said that was the first one EVER, tard. But it's convenient that there were no fighter jets in the WHOLE NATION able to fly up and see wtf was going on

But doesn't the Loose Change Loser group contend that a fighter shot 93 down?  Which is it?

Idk, Loose Change isn't the end all, be all of the 9/11 truth movement. It's a f*cking video that two college dudes made that raises questions


Let's look at some other facts:

Larry Silverstein (WTC leaseholder) took out an insurance policy on the WTC buildings that covered "terrorist attacks" one month before the 9/11.
Larry ended up profiting $500 million from 9/11

Just another coincidence i suppose? Sure were a lot on this day.

Wouldn't Larry be labeled a fool if he hadn't taken out terrorist insurance on a building that had already been bombed by a terrorist? Good business decision on his part.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #144 on: April 24, 2010, 10:35:52 PM »
First off, the U.S. Military wasn't even anywhere close to being the pre-eminent world power in 1941, so trying to compare U.S. military capability in 1941 to 2001 is absolutely absurd.   However FDR has plenty of idea of what the Japanese were willing to do when the Japanese attacked and sank the USS Panay in 1937 on the Yangtze River in China.

"Is this real world or exercise"  Look up those words as it relates to 9-11 and get back to me.   Strange how NORAD was running an exercise that had U.S. interceptors off somewhere over Canada "intercepting" fake targets during Operation Northern Vigilance . . . how convenient.


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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #145 on: April 24, 2010, 10:45:16 PM »
Silverstein paid $3.5 Billion for the 99 year lease of the  WTC complex.

Final Insurance Payout total to Silverstein . . . $4.55 Billion (sources numerous).    The insurers agreed to the Final $2 Billion in May of 2007, the $4.55 Billion was about $130 million less than what Silverstein and/or the Port Authority was seeking.

In addition Silverstein had a whose-who list of high powered politicians railing on the Insurers to quit stone walling, and Elliot Spitzer, in between nailing hot call girls had one of his insurance commission cronies step in to speed up a settlement.

« Last Edit: April 24, 2010, 10:54:11 PM by sonofdaxjones »

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #146 on: April 25, 2010, 11:33:32 AM »
So do we have a tally on who the truthers are on here?

Truther
pike
sonofdaxjones


who else am I missing?

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #147 on: April 25, 2010, 02:41:28 PM »
I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him.  It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.

Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so

So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #148 on: April 25, 2010, 02:52:33 PM »
I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him.  It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.

Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so

So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.

what facts have I ignored?  :dunno:

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Re: Serious question for right wing folks
« Reply #149 on: April 25, 2010, 02:54:26 PM »
I love how pike brushes off every fact presented to him.  It's awesome to watch, and I don't want it to stop.

Rustycat is just one of those tards (as well as Limestone) that doesn't believe anything, unless the government told him so

So keep brushing off facts yourself, dude.

what facts have I ignored?  :dunno:

Everything dax and i said apparently, what have I ignored?