Serious question for right wing folks

[Rage Against the McKee]

Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?

It was on the History channel or something.  They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened. 

They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?"  The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place".  Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.

They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible.  It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't).  They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives.  The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.

You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.

That show was broadcast by the government-controlled media. The only news that's real news comes from internet blogs, where people don't need worthless crap like sources or credentials.

[KSU187]

Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?

It was on the History channel or something.  They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened. 

They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?"  The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place".  Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.

They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible.  It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't).  They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives.  The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.

You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.

That show was broadcast by the government-controlled media. The only news that's real news comes from internet blogs, where people don't need worthless crap like sources or credentials.

 

And BTW, the NWO is not only "plausible"....

[pike]

Sugardick still said he'll provide video evidence of a 747 hitting the Pentagon?

It was on the History channel or something.  They had the truthers on and were comparing their stories with people in the real world that could actually do the things the truthers said happened. 

They showed the video to the truthers and they were like, "that doesn't prove anything! where did the plane go after it crashed?"  The guy was like, "there's wreckage all over the place".  Truthers had some ridiculous response, like that's missile wreckage or something.

They also tested to see if jet fuel can melt the metal trusses the truthers said was impossible.  It can
Then they asked a demolition guy if he could blow up a building using some special liquid plasma stuff the truthers say was found at the crash scene (which it wasn't).  They then tested the plasma and it didn't work.
The truthers also said something about elevators being fixed as the cover to set the explosives.  The demo guy laughed and said, there was no f*cking way a demolition of a building that size could be done in that short of a period without bringing a million people and making a sh*t load of noise.

You guys probably wouldn't have liked the show.

That show was broadcast by the government-controlled media. The only news that's real news comes from internet blogs, where people don't need worthless crap like sources or credentials.

Nailed it

[Rage Against the McKee]

So Pike, how deep does this conspiracy run? Was it just the Bush administration, or was congress involved as well? Any military involvement? Do you have any names other than Bush and any evidence not in the form of a question?

[pike]

So Pike, how deep does this conspiracy run? Was it just the Bush administration, or was congress involved as well? Any military involvement? Do you have any names other than Bush and any evidence not in the form of a question?

I think it was the "ruling class". You know, the "elite". Ever hear of the Bilderbergers? Some congresspeople are guilty but most are not. Bush had obvious intentions with the whole oil thing.

[Dugout DickStone]

Sigh . . . it's not a matter of just crashing a 757 into the Pentagon.  It's not like they just took control of the plane a few miles from the Pentagon, punched the stick down and dove right into it.

The dude flew the plane for many miles, and then executed a series of intricate turns and descents at relatively high speed, and then lined the plane up to slam into the side wall of a building that while it's huge, isn't that tall . . . and did it with near pin point precision at over 400 knots. 

That's not something some kid playing Modern Warfare 2 on XBox learns to do in 10 hours.  Got damn . . . amazing. 

Wouldn't a real pilot have been able to to line the plane up during this flight that went "many miles" so that he wouldn't have to make the intricate series of turns and descents at high speed?

Umm . . . a lot of flying, particularly in large airplanes requires a series of intricate steps to execute a plan, 757's aren't helicopters or 4 wheelers in the pasture.

To line a 757 with auto pilot up with the pentagon (known coordinates) from 2 states away, when you don't have to follow a flight plan, or observe no fly areas, or noise codes is probably easier than flying a helicopter.

But I think you are just humoring the conspiracy theorists, right?  Otherwise 

[Sugar Dick]

Yeah, an auto pilot helped the guy get to Washington, but it didn't fly the plane in the critical last few minutes nor get the aircraft set up to hit the Pentagon where it did.  

Plus, here's another really simple question Flight 77 hit the Pentagon nearly 37 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the WTC, and nearly an hour after the 1st plane hit the WTC.

Where was the fighter cover for Washington DC??  Oh yeah, our multi-trillion dollar national defense system still had "its pants down".    Designed to find and intercept Russian Backfire and Bear Strategic Bombers and track 1000's of space vehicles and incoming ICBM's . . . completely incapable of stopping an airliner from hitting the Pentagon nearly an hour after it got one of the biggest wake up calls in world history.   Not even Hollywood could conjure up such a tale.

Maybe they knew how impossible it would be for these guys to hit their target?  

(I mean the guys flying the planes that could never had flown with such accuracy given their training)

[Dugout DickStone]

Yeah, an auto pilot helped the guy get to Washington, but it didn't fly the plane in the critical last few minutes nor get the aircraft set up to hit the Pentagon where it did.   

Plus, here's another really simple question Flight 77 hit the Pentagon nearly 37 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the WTC, and nearly an hour after the 1st plane hit the WTC.

Where was the fighter cover for Washington DC??  Oh yeah, our multi-trillion dollar national defense system still had "its pants down".    Designed to find and intercept Russian Backfire and Bear Strategic Bombers and track 1000's of space vehicles and incoming ICBM's . . . completely incapable of stopping an airliner from hitting the Pentagon nearly an hour after it got one of the biggest wake up calls in world history.   Not even Hollywood could conjure up such a tale.

Maybe they knew how impossible it would be for these guys to hit their target?   

By september of 2001, an air attack on Washington by the Russians had, for some reason, faded from our priorities.  weird, I know.

[pike]

Yeah, an auto pilot helped the guy get to Washington, but it didn't fly the plane in the critical last few minutes nor get the aircraft set up to hit the Pentagon where it did.   

Plus, here's another really simple question Flight 77 hit the Pentagon nearly 37 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the WTC, and nearly an hour after the 1st plane hit the WTC.

Where was the fighter cover for Washington DC??  Oh yeah, our multi-trillion dollar national defense system still had "its pants down".    Designed to find and intercept Russian Backfire and Bear Strategic Bombers and track 1000's of space vehicles and incoming ICBM's . . . completely incapable of stopping an airliner from hitting the Pentagon nearly an hour after it got one of the biggest wake up calls in world history.   Not even Hollywood could conjure up such a tale.

Well that's the thing, NORAD conveniently scrambled all the fighter jets in the country for some "war games" bullshit. Leaving no fighters to intercept hijacked commercial jets, like they usually do. Just another coincidence from that day I suppose......psh

[Trim]

pike, you better come to the next big pak (probably the UCLA game) and be as spirited about all this in real life as you are on the board.

[pike]

pike, you better come to the next big pak (probably the UCLA game) and be as spirited about all this in real life as you are on the board.

It's really hard to pull off in real life, but it can be done.

[OregonSmock]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

[pike]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.

[OregonSmock]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.

The true definition of irony.  You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right? 
 

[pike]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.

The true definition of irony.  You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right? 
 

See I don't even know that much about Roswell

[mortons toe]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.

The true definition of irony.  You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right? 
 

you do realize that the term "UFO" is used quite often, dont you? 

[Sugar Dick]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.

The true definition of irony.  You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right? 
 

you do realize that the term "UFO" is used quite often, dont you? 

Yeah, if the weather balloon was unidentified and in the air, then it's a UFO.  If it crashed, it's a "crashed UFO".

BMW isn't a very smart fella

[Dugout DickStone]

pike, what are your thoughts on Roswell? 

Eh, I honestly think it was a weather balloon but who knows.

The true definition of irony.  You do realize that the initial report from the military was that it was a crashed UFO, right? 
 

you do realize that the term "UFO" is used quite often, dont you? 

Yeah, if the weather balloon was unidentified and in the air, then it's a UFO.  If it crashed, it's a "crashed UFO".

BMW isn't a very smart fella

Poor beems.   

[Dugout DickStone]

The actual term they used was "flying saucer."  I used the term "UFO" because most people relate that to an extraterrestrial spacecraft, as opposed to arguing semantics just for the sake of argument.  You guys are a bunch of dicks.  

Take it easy buddy......take it easy.  Just relax, big glass of ice water....maybe some situps/pushups to burn it off. 

[OregonSmock]

The actual term they used was "flying saucer."  I used the term "UFO" because most people relate that to an extraterrestrial spacecraft, as opposed to arguing semantics just for the sake of argument. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident

On July 8, 1947, Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) public information office in Roswell, New Mexico, issued a press release [3] stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed "flying disc" from a ranch near Roswell, sparking intense media interest. The following day, the press reported that Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a radar-tracking balloon had been recovered by the RAAF personnel, not a "flying disc."[4] A subsequent press conference was called, featuring debris from the crashed object that confirmed the weather balloon description.

 

[Sugar Dick]

Of course, the RAF

[Sugar Dick]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident

 

[OregonSmock]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_Incident

 

 

[OregonSmock]

Here's more, Dick Face (you will probably enjoy this too, pike):


http://www.roswellfiles.com/story.htm


http://www.roswellfiles.com/witness.htm

"The many rumors regarding the flying disk became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eight Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the co-operation of one of the local ranchers and the Sheriff's Office of Chaves county.

"The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc until such time as he was able to contact the Sheriff's office, who in turn notified Major Jesse A. Marcel, of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence office.

"Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher's home. It was inspected at the Roswell Army Air Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher headquarters."
(San Francisco Chronicle - July 9, 1947)

[Sugar Dick]

Here's more, Dick Face (you will probably enjoy this too, pike):


http://www.roswellfiles.com/story.htm


http://www.roswellfiles.com/witness.htm

"The many rumors regarding the flying disk became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eight Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the co-operation of one of the local ranchers and the Sheriff's Office of Chaves county.

"The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc until such time as he was able to contact the Sheriff's office, who in turn notified Major Jesse A. Marcel, of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence office.

"Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher's home. It was inspected at the Roswell Army Air Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher headquarters."
(San Francisco Chronicle - July 9, 1947)