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Title: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:11:42 PM
obviously the worst in the big12 and maybe the worst in the country. that's not goemawing. it's something that everyone regardless of school they cheer for would agree on. it seems like they are at least discussing maybe doing something to it possibly. fun!

i just look at this thing though and i'm not even sure what you would do here. it's a memorial stadium so i guess that probably prevents them just buildozing and starting from scratch which seems like the best option. with that said- if it's me, i would probably leave the upper half w/ that weird pressbox building and half of the bowl. i would tear down the right (east) side of the bowl though and the whole east side. then i would round the bowl a little tighter and build something nicer than the current box thing they have on the west side. make the east side the nice side and where people really want to be. tear down that current big screen on stilts and enclose the stadium on the left with maybe eight rows of seats or whatever close to the field. the absolute worst thing is that yellow anderson building or whatever that is built off to the upper left part ant that weird angle and covered w/ the clip art people. thoughts?


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F3%2F38%2FAerial_View_of_University_of_Kansas_Stadium_08-31-2013.jpg&hash=13778b11ddc32c6088b7d8fcd556df14d4a0e37b)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:14:33 PM
better view of the clipart building they just built.


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fcroppedphotos%2F2008%2F08%2F05%2FKUPractice_t650.jpg%3Feec9ecda5f66de59a37bbdb23c6f48523261b548&hash=5b73225c05b9273edcce06363b8a5a9a64f79079)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 20, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
BID
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
RD, I think Memorial needs to stay as is. As science progresses and we hurtle towards a new and exciting future, it's safe to assume that someday humanity will have giants walk the earth. These giants will need entertainment, and the visiting stands framework is a perfect Connect Four board for them. Just rip out the upper half of the visiting stands to create the board, and you have classic giant entertainment AND a way to create badly needed KU football sellouts. The giants can dunk their Connect Four pieces in Potter Lake to rinse off the stench of urine too. Win-win!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ben ji on February 20, 2014, 03:17:27 PM
Never noticed that shot put area in the corner, very small timey/high schoolish.

That would the second thing I change after tearing out that godawful track.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
i mean, you just tear down everything from the middle of the bowl over to the entire east side. then you round the bowl tighter. get rid of all the track stuff. bring the east side closer to the west. make the east side desireable kind of like we did when we built our new east side ten years ago. close the stadium but not w/ a lot of rows. get rid of the chain link fence. that's gotta be the plan, right?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 20, 2014, 03:22:09 PM
Why does their current press box look so much like our really old one that we blew up and threw in the trash?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Unruly on February 20, 2014, 03:22:09 PM
This thread.


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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 20, 2014, 03:22:14 PM
It would definitely have to be done in phases.

Phase 1:  Bullzdone east (non pressbox) side, bulldoze north side (family fun zone), and remove track.  Move the field closer to the west stands, rebuild east side with more suites (not SEATS!).  Rebuild the north size but closer to the north endzone. 
Phase 2:  Tear down west side, rebuild with more suites and amenities.  Remove trailer in south endzone.  Extend new west side and integrate it with the football complex.  Put a new facade on the football complex in order to blend in with the rest of the stadium.
Phase 3:  Add new video/ribbon boards to new press boxes, north side, and south side.  New south size scoreboard needs to be set in the corner (similar to TCU) in order to preserve the setting of the hill. 


My design services are free.  You are welcome KU.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:22:46 PM
This thread.


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why?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Unruly on February 20, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
This thread.


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why?


http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20882.0

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 20, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
This thread.


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Not very TSC of you. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: PowercatPat on February 20, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
One of my favorite things KU fans do is try to argue that Memorial Stadium is better than BSFS.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on February 20, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
They should make it as close to BSFS as they could afford and cover the track with endzone of death carpet.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
This thread.


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why?


http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20882.0

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oh. well this thread isn't about it blowing. it's about what would YOU do if you were in charge.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 20, 2014, 03:29:43 PM
What I've heard:

KU has looked at Washington and Minnesota's recent stadium projects and is preparing to do something similar with Memorial.  The new stadium will include a tunnel system connecting the hill and the football complex, with a party porch and/or a walkway just above it.  They are possibly looking to build an indoor practice facility onto the new stadium as well.  I would expect them to tear down the entire east side and build a new facade, similar to what K-State did with the WSC. 

Like the rest of you, I can't wait to finally see the renderings.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 20, 2014, 03:30:44 PM
What I've heard:

KU has looked at Washington and Minnesota's recent stadium projects and is preparing to do something similar with Memorial.  The new stadium will include a tunnel system connecting the hill and the football complex, with a party porch and/or a walkway just above it.  They are possibly looking to build an indoor practice facility onto the new stadium as well.  I would expect them to tear down the entire east side and build a new facade, similar to what K-State did with the WSC. 

Like the rest of you, I can't wait to finally see the renderings.

 :ksu:

 :tsc:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
the bizarre thing is really that football complex and how little thought seems to have gone into planning it. it was like well we gotta build something so maybe we just plop it down over here. yeah, don't care where the entry or exit are or colors you use on it. just build something over in that area. i never knew how bizarre it really looked.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
Guys I'm not sure what Mark's strategy is here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLJiVqhg.jpg&hash=079a200bbac37d278e72ff7cdb35dfccfbf3cf47)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:34:48 PM
What I've heard:

KU has looked at Washington and Minnesota's recent stadium projects and is preparing to do something similar with Memorial.  The new stadium will include a tunnel system connecting the hill and the football complex, with a party porch and/or a walkway just above it.  They are possibly looking to build an indoor practice facility onto the new stadium as well.  I would expect them to tear down the entire east side and build a new facade, similar to what K-State did with the WSC. 

Like the rest of you, I can't wait to finally see the renderings.

 :ksu:

what do you mean "tunnel system connecting the hill and the football complex?" like you are up at the top of the hill and can go underground and end up inside the fball stadium?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: steve dave on February 20, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
Guys I'm not sure what Mark's strategy is here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGlNKN2x.jpg&hash=8ed0e9930135e625877338ee6fd40c6bf0951184)

 :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 20, 2014, 03:37:54 PM
the bizarre thing is really that football complex and how little thought seems to have gone into planning it. it was like well we gotta build something so maybe we just plop it down over here. yeah, don't care where the entry or exit are or colors you use on it. just build something over in that area. i never knew how bizarre it really looked.
The red parts of the roof are especially strange. They probably should have just made the outside edge of the roof all red so that it would match the football field in aerial photography.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: CatMission on February 20, 2014, 03:37:57 PM

Guys I'm not sure what Mark's strategy is here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGlNKN2x.jpg&hash=8ed0e9930135e625877338ee6fd40c6bf0951184)
Took me a moment...well played sir.


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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 20, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
the bizarre thing is really that football complex and how little thought seems to have gone into planning it. it was like well we gotta build something so maybe we just plop it down over here. yeah, don't care where the entry or exit are or colors you use on it. just build something over in that area. i never knew how bizarre it really looked.


A lot of thought went into planning it and making sure it didn't obstruct the view of the stadium from the hill.  The color is a little off compared to the rest of the stadium, but Memorial's facade is probably going to change pretty soon anyways.  The inside of the complex is incredible and the view from Weis' office opens up right onto the field.  It's a really nice facility, imo.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 20, 2014, 03:46:28 PM
the bizarre thing is really that football complex and how little thought seems to have gone into planning it. it was like well we gotta build something so maybe we just plop it down over here. yeah, don't care where the entry or exit are or colors you use on it. just build something over in that area. i never knew how bizarre it really looked.
The red parts of the roof are especially strange. They probably should have just made the outside edge of the roof all red so that it would match the football field in aerial photography.


The red roofs are featured all over KU's campus.  The aerial photos match up pretty well actually:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSzOD77s.jpg&hash=2754a33f8bb89fdf857efaded5d69b2dd8754a82)

(https://disability.ku.edu/sites/disability.ku.edu/files/styles/slideshow-1180/public/images/galleries/AerialViewToN_autumn.jpg)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
the bizarre thing is really that football complex and how little thought seems to have gone into planning it. it was like well we gotta build something so maybe we just plop it down over here. yeah, don't care where the entry or exit are or colors you use on it. just build something over in that area. i never knew how bizarre it really looked.


A lot of thought went into planning it and making sure it didn't obstruct the view of the stadium from the hill.  The color is a little off compared to the rest of the stadium, but Memorial's facade is probably going to change pretty soon anyways.  The inside of the complex is incredible and the view from Weis' office opens up right onto the field.  It's a really nice facility, imo.

1)tell me more about the tunnel thing. i don't understand but it sounds cool.
2)the inside of it does sound and look pretty good. but the outside and the angle and the colors from top to bottom along w/ clipart guy are just so bad. just so, so bad. is there a chance they'll explode it like we are doing w/ the vanier complex that we just redid but also didn't do it very well or is ku stuck w/ it?
3)does ku practice on the field or the practice fields? both?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 20, 2014, 03:58:45 PM
also, they apparently purposefully made it not match in any way. so look at that complex and i guess you have a good idea of what the new stadium will look like. red and yellow. also, those halls are so far away i mean what in the world? it would be like matching vanier to edwards hall.



Stone used in the construction is meant to match that of Strong, Bailey and Dyche halls.In short, the complex looks nothing like Memorial Stadium's facade."That was on purpose. We didn't want to match that," Corman said.

Dennis Domer, associate dean emeritus of Kansas University's architecture department and an outspoken opponent of the construction of the Oread Hotel, said the complex is better than he expected."Just from driving by and looking at it, you know, it's not a great building, but it has some attractive qualities there that I would have to look at more carefully," he said.



http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/aug/16/support_growing_football_addition/
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 20, 2014, 04:05:24 PM
They are possibly looking to build an indoor practice facility onto the new stadium as well

holy crap, on the new stadium?

like, on top of it?

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MadCat on February 20, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
They are possibly looking to build an indoor practice facility onto the new stadium as well

holy crap, on the new stadium?

like, on top of it?

:horrorsurprise:
Retractable for nice weather days.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 20, 2014, 04:16:27 PM
also, they apparently purposefully made it not match in any way. so look at that complex and i guess you have a good idea of what the new stadium will look like. red and yellow. also, those halls are so far away i mean what in the world? it would be like matching vanier to edwards hall.



Stone used in the construction is meant to match that of Strong, Bailey and Dyche halls.In short, the complex looks nothing like Memorial Stadium's facade."That was on purpose. We didn't want to match that," Corman said.

Dennis Domer, associate dean emeritus of Kansas University's architecture department and an outspoken opponent of the construction of the Oread Hotel, said the complex is better than he expected."Just from driving by and looking at it, you know, it's not a great building, but it has some attractive qualities there that I would have to look at more carefully," he said.



http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/aug/16/support_growing_football_addition/

That guy sounds a lot like Dr. Seaman at Kansas State. I bet they are friends.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 20, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
What I've heard:

KU has looked at Washington and Minnesota's recent stadium projects and is preparing to do something similar with Memorial.  The new stadium will include a tunnel system connecting the hill and the football complex, with a party porch and/or a walkway just above it.  They are possibly looking to build an indoor practice facility onto the new stadium as well.  I would expect them to tear down the entire east side and build a new facade, similar to what K-State did with the WSC. 

Like the rest of you, I can't wait to finally see the renderings.

 :ksu:

I mean, hasn't this been "in the works" for years and years?  To use rd's analogy eventually you have to ask someone to show you how to put weights on the squat rack and start doing it.  Taking about how huge your calves will be doesn't make them huge.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 20, 2014, 04:26:39 PM
On my way back from Topeka today, I noticed they had a billboard up for their National Championship in Womens Track!  :love:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 20, 2014, 04:43:55 PM
I'm having difficulty visualizing how tearing out and replacing the east side will help that stadium at all. You still end up with a track, and a bowl that's too big and too far away from the field because of the track, but now the stadium would be mismatched, too.

Best option would be to demolish the entire stadium and start over, but I guess that won't happen. Next best option would be to excavate and lower the entire field by 10-15 feet, eliminate the track, extend seating down to the new field level, demolish the existing west side grandstands and press box and replace with a new press box. It could even be done is phases as long as you close off the west side grandstands to offset for all the new lower-level seating.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 20, 2014, 04:47:52 PM
stadium reno's can be fun, even if it is KU. I'm bored at work plus TSC, so..

I think they should do like Daris said, keep the top west side half and press box, but I think they should design the rest of the stadium similar to SMU's Gerald J. Ford Stadium.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgraphics.fansonly.com%2Fschools%2Fsmu%2Fgraphics%2Fg-ford-stadium-625w.jpg&hash=704c15f3c58a205a487ab906f2db2d09339ecb3e)

but, wrap the lower level all the way around the south side with the super secrety amazing tunnel system to the hill and locker rooms like Beems said. SMU is at 32k seating, but wrapped all the way around and a little more sprawled out would get them around 40-45k, which would be about right for them. KIND OF like this.

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 20, 2014, 04:50:58 PM
SMU would be a home run for them.  They should definitely do that
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: wiley on February 20, 2014, 04:52:12 PM
SMU would be a home run for them.  They should definitely do that

Here's a better one for KU, this school has removed a track and has a "setting"

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fseattletimes.com%2FABPub%2F2013%2F08%2F24%2F2021682763.jpg&hash=8123c03bc65509ff987459a511f327ff90ec34f8)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 20, 2014, 04:53:19 PM
The SMU one looks exactly like what they should be proud to do.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 20, 2014, 04:53:29 PM
SMU would be a home run for them.  They should definitely do that

making it as nice as SMU's stadium is probably way out of the question for them. I'm just saying the design, they can build the same basic structure out of concrete w/ clip art all over it.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trim on February 20, 2014, 04:54:51 PM
Play in the soccer stadium in KCK.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 20, 2014, 04:58:04 PM
The bowl is already too shallow. No way to get seats closer to the field without lowering the field or building over all the existing seats.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 20, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
Play in the soccer stadium in KCK.

Most SKC fans are KU fans anyway. Two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 0.42 on February 20, 2014, 05:06:41 PM
Play in the soccer stadium in KCK.

Most SKC fans are KU fans anyway. Two birds with one stone.

 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2014, 05:36:28 PM
SMU would be a home run for them.  They should definitely do that

Here's a better one for KU, this school has removed a track and has a "setting"

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fseattletimes.com%2FABPub%2F2013%2F08%2F24%2F2021682763.jpg&hash=8123c03bc65509ff987459a511f327ff90ec34f8)

that cost a quarter billion dollars and as much as it would be cool for ku to do, there's not a chance in hell that ku can afford to do that.  why?  because it has to be done all at once.  UW isn't a phased approach.

the appropriate way for ku to do theirs is to bulldoze the east side student section in phase 1 rebuild closer to the location where the new field is and reconstruct.  then tear out the south bowl in phase 2 and rebuild a squared off endzone like at BSS bringing it north and west, again pulling out the distance b/w the fans and the field.  then phase 3 is to tear out the pos press box and build the new level of suites/press box on top of the current west side.  i wouldn't worry about the outside of the west facade, it's kind of covered by the hill (not THE HILL) on the west side of the stadium.  my rough math tells me the price tag on what i've described is $200M and can be done in a period of 4-5 years.  that would get them to a pretty respectable place
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2014, 05:49:08 PM
When do the bus depot rendos come out? Will it match memorial or the randomly placed Anderson?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 20, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
the bizarre thing is really that football complex and how little thought seems to have gone into planning it. it was like well we gotta build something so maybe we just plop it down over here. yeah, don't care where the entry or exit are or colors you use on it. just build something over in that area. i never knew how bizarre it really looked.


A lot of thought went into planning it and making sure it didn't obstruct the view of the stadium from the hill.  The color is a little off compared to the rest of the stadium, but Memorial's facade is probably going to change pretty soon anyways.  The inside of the complex is incredible and the view from Weis' office opens up right onto the field.  It's a really nice facility, imo.

1)tell me more about the tunnel thing. i don't understand but it sounds cool.
2)the inside of it does sound and look pretty good. but the outside and the angle and the colors from top to bottom along w/ clipart guy are just so bad. just so, so bad. is there a chance they'll explode it like we are doing w/ the vanier complex that we just redid but also didn't do it very well or is ku stuck w/ it?
3)does ku practice on the field or the practice fields? both?


1.  Imagine if Minnesota's stadium was relocated to KU, and they created a tunnel system connecting the semi-open end to the hill/football complex:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.sportngin.com%2Fattachments%2Fphoto%2F1047%2F7149%2FTCF_From_Above_medium.jpg&hash=d2f50a1151bd10362ae08485a3c5566b18ebfea3)

2.  The angle of the football complex is designed specifically so that it doesn't obstruct the view of the stadium and the walk from the Campanile during graduation.  KU alums were involved and did not want to imitate K-State's lifeless stadium with something like Vanier.  A large portion of KU's complex is underground and built into the side of the hill, which maximizes space.  The clip art is stupid and the color of the facade is off, so I hope they fix those two things.  The angle is not a concern, though.

3.  Both.  Weis has hinted that they might build an indoor practice facility next to the upgraded stadium as well.



Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 20, 2014, 06:02:54 PM


(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSzOD77s.jpg&hash=2754a33f8bb89fdf857efaded5d69b2dd8754a82)

(https://disability.ku.edu/sites/disability.ku.edu/files/styles/slideshow-1180/public/images/galleries/AerialViewToN_autumn.jpg)


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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 20, 2014, 06:13:33 PM
Quick question:  when does K-State plan on getting rid of the Harley track and those dumpy looking stands?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstephenhassler.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F09%2Fdsc_0442.jpg&hash=859548ac86b29f96a64971623a0bda226d1d3dd4)


 :Yuck:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 20, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
SMU would be a home run for them.  They should definitely do that

Here's a better one for KU, this school has removed a track and has a "setting"

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fseattletimes.com%2FABPub%2F2013%2F08%2F24%2F2021682763.jpg&hash=8123c03bc65509ff987459a511f327ff90ec34f8)

The Udub Stadium setting simply can't hold a candle to majesty of Mt. Oread. 

Clinton Lake > Lake Washington
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on February 20, 2014, 06:17:55 PM
Quick question:  when does K-State plan on getting rid of the Harley track and those dumpy looking stands?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstephenhassler.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F09%2Fdsc_0442.jpg&hash=859548ac86b29f96a64971623a0bda226d1d3dd4)


 :Yuck:
Sometime before KU gets rid of its garbage track and overall garbage stadium.  We're only doing a 50+ million renovation on that, as announced like a month or two ago and leaked like 6ish? months ago.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: AzagthothForKSU on February 20, 2014, 06:19:49 PM
I think KU should do something like this:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clker.com%2Fcliparts%2FW%2Fi%2FR%2FM%2Fm%2Fe%2Fstadium-hi.png&hash=2a5b2dee5d1ccc95ba154be276fc5b8d3c1f7a3e)
and this inside the stadium:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.picturesof.net%2F_images_300%2FMan_Selling_Popcorn_In_a_Stadium_Royalty_Free_Clipart_Picture_081219-051940-507042.jpg&hash=b4be986ddf73aacf64d728a2adc8e46200c669ff)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 20, 2014, 06:26:43 PM
Quick question:  when does K-State plan on getting rid of the Harley track and those dumpy looking stands?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstephenhassler.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F09%2Fdsc_0442.jpg&hash=859548ac86b29f96a64971623a0bda226d1d3dd4)


 :Yuck:
ummmm we are redoing the NEZ read a newspaper or something every once in awhile
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2014, 06:27:55 PM
also, uw's stadium isn't very impressive.  unless you're into Transformers.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 20, 2014, 06:30:11 PM
I can't wait till the rendos are released and Beems' talking point is "Unlike K-State, KU has many rich donors with TVs the size of those Godzilla-trons in their house.  Cliff Illig is said to be one of them"
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ChiComCat on February 20, 2014, 06:47:50 PM
Quick question:  when does K-State plan on getting rid of the Harley track and those dumpy looking stands?

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 :Yuck:

We all can't have super nice endzone stands like ku

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 20, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
Is that the spring game they won?  :Woot:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cire on February 20, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
What's with the circus tents on the hill beems?  Fun zone for the kids, fireworks?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 20, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
I think taking some elements of the TCU build would be the dream scenario and could be done for anywhere from $100-$200 million depending upon what KU is willing to sacrifice.

Phase 1:  Trash the East end and build something like the KSU East end and the TCU (west?) end with a better facade.  If they are really worried about holding down the cost, they could maybe keep the lower level, build up a facade and boxes behind it.  The goal is not to go with a full double deck.  Est. Price tag- $40-80MM depending upon the removal of the lower level.

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Basically what is pictured above, but without the highest part of the seating scrapped.

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Phase 2:  This is where the TCU thing comes in to play.  Call this thing the HAWK'S NEST.  You build suites all along the North End using the Oread stone theme.  Square out the horseshoe and build 2-3 party decks that have seating on the stadium side and large out door party decks on the back.  "The Hill" stays open and you get a baller elite only building right there facing the tailgating mecca of the sidestreets.  Don't mess with trying to link it the football facility, they are separate facilities and you just keep the current football only stuff where it is and focus on fan experience.  Trying to re-locate all of the student-athlete stuff is going to kill your budget, you just spent cash on the football only and the all-athlete thing.  Save your money and do this thing right.

Est Price Tag: $70-90MM

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Basically this ends up being the view from the hill.  Mas o menos.

Phase 3:  West Side.  Here is where the mas o menos comes in to play.  Do you want to complete the entire rebuild?  By this time the momentum of the baller NEZ suites might have helped roll into a complete demo.  But that is a LOT of stuff to move.  If it were me, I would suck it up and muddle through with the weird West side, build the band a little platform or something to put them right on top of the visitors or make that the KU end and figure out something else to do with the extra space and have the visitors feeling claustrophobic against the tight sideline.

Est Price tag: $0-$90MM

Conclusion:

Phase 1 & 2 Est cost- $100-180MM

Personally I would rather have the baller NEZ that connects to all the tailgate areas and make it just an enormous party with places for young alums and high rollers both and throw up some facade bandaids on the rest to keep the project on budget.  If it is all about the hill, make it all about the hill.  Build the NEZ in to one of the best suite/party palaces in the country with the setting behind it.  Muddle through the E/W stuff until you can raise the $150-250MM more it would take to do it right.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MouseRat on February 20, 2014, 07:50:44 PM
If they decide to demolish Memorial Stadium and start over they can just name the new complex Phog Allen Field at Dr. James Naismith Stadium.  Heck!  They could name the Press Box after Bill Self or Roy Williams.  He was a dad gum good ball coach, right?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 20, 2014, 07:54:54 PM
If they decide to demolish Memorial Stadium and start over they can just name the new complex Phog Allen Field at Dr. James Naismith Stadium.  Heck!  They could name the Press Box after Bill Self or Roy Williams.  He was a dad gum good ball coach, right?

Right.  However, we are talking about football on the football board and so I'd appreciate it if you left the basketball to the basketball board.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2014, 08:02:54 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 20, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
Quick question:  when does K-State plan on getting rid of the Harley track and those dumpy looking stands?

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 :Yuck:

Man I really wish we used the Harley Track for something Harley related.

But on a serious note, the black area allows plenty of emergency access around the field. In short, players accept the inevitability of death if they're injured playing in Memorial.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MouseRat on February 20, 2014, 08:03:57 PM
If they decide to demolish Memorial Stadium and start over they can just name the new complex Phog Allen Field at Dr. James Naismith Stadium.  Heck!  They could name the Press Box after Bill Self or Roy Williams.  He was a dad gum good ball coach, right?

Right.  However, we are talking about football on the football board and so I'd appreciate it if you left the basketball to the basketball board.

Sorry.  I thought we were being serious on this thread.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 20, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ

A place for Chaz to nest his eggs!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 20, 2014, 08:05:26 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ

OMG!  DONE!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2014, 08:09:44 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ

OMG!  DONE!

like tampa bay, but a nest?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ

OMG!  DONE!

like tampa bay, but a nest?

Yep. And its like limited to a few hundred die hard studs, so if you're in the Hawks Nest, you know you're a big deal.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ

OMG!  DONE!

like tampa bay, but a nest?

Yep. And its like limited to a few hundred die hard studs, so if you're in the Hawks Nest, you know you're a big deal.

what kind of seating?  or SRO?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on February 20, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
would a baby jay hatch from a hawks nest egg on every touchdown?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Idea: Call the party deck the "Hawks Nest" and make it look like a giant nest in the NEZ

OMG!  DONE!

like tampa bay, but a nest?

Yep. And its like limited to a few hundred die hard studs, so if you're in the Hawks Nest, you know you're a big deal.

what kind of seating?  or SRO?

SRO of course.

would a baby jay hatch from a hawks nest egg on every touchdown?

Na, But maybe like a cannon that shoots crimson and blue feathers could shoot crimson and blue feathers all over the place
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 20, 2014, 08:20:20 PM
Charlie's building a monster. This is the year we turn the corner. You overachieving pretenders have officially been served your walking taco papers. Now step aside and let the flagships sail.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
Idea 2: Not on the entirety of the hill, but on part of the hill, plant some wheat. Even if its just like a 60X60 plot, do it. Imagine the shots on TV of the students waving the wheat, then shots of the wheat waving the wheat, then the students waving the wheat, etc. I mean, if you wave the wheat, lets wave the wheat.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 20, 2014, 08:27:11 PM

Idea 2: Not on the entirety of the hill, but on part of the hill, plant some wheat. Even if its just like a 60X60 plot, do it. Imagine the shots on TV of the students waving the wheat, then shots of the wheat waving the wheat, then the students waving the wheat, etc. I mean, if you wave the wheat, lets wave the wheat.

Um, do u have any idea why wheat is always planted on a flat field instead of a step-terrace or hillside (knock, for u Scots) dummy ?

Cuz I don't. Anyway, sounds like a great idea. The team could simply appear from the fields of gold rather than running through a tunnel. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 20, 2014, 08:28:29 PM

Idea 2: Not on the entirety of the hill, but on part of the hill, plant some wheat. Even if its just like a 60X60 plot, do it. Imagine the shots on TV of the students waving the wheat, then shots of the wheat waving the wheat, then the students waving the wheat, etc. I mean, if you wave the wheat, lets wave the wheat.

Um, do u have any idea why wheat is always planted on a flat field instead of a step-terrace or hillside (knock, for u Scots) dummy ?

Cuz I don't. Anyway, sounds like a great idea. The team could simply appear from the fields of gold rather than running through a tunnel.

I know nothing about Wheat. I know if you don't plant some somewhere at the KU football stadium you're failures. JMHO!!!!!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 20, 2014, 08:33:01 PM
Why would they waste money on a new stadium?


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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 20, 2014, 08:35:58 PM
IDEA:  what if KU hoops tricked the WSU shockers in to thinking they had accepted a home game, sold a bunch of tickets to WSU Shockers and then instead trapped them, built a Morsy sound proof cage, hooked up electrodes to them and then made the Shockers wave the wheat after every tuchdown on the hill.

#Shocking #Shockers #Wavethewheat #TrajanHorse #thehill #synergy

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2014, 09:03:42 PM
idea in my mind's eye.  build a hill directly opposite from the main hill (Hill A).   put football field in between both hills.  put bleachers on hills, make the bleachers out of wheat.   on top of new hill (Hill B), build campanile exactly like the one on Hill A except make this one colored red and blue.  run a cable between campanile A and campanile B.  on cable b/w campaniles, mount different jayhawk piñatas filled with various jayhawk paraphernalia.  during halftime, Jay and Baby Jay can use their air powered hot dog cannons to try and break jayhawk piñatas.  if one breaks, fans under that section receive free jayhawk paraphernalia.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on February 20, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
also, uw's stadium isn't very impressive.  unless you're into Transformers.
I thought I was the only one that doesn't like it. It really isn't all that great...the setting otoh  :love:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 20, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
idea in my mind's eye.  build a hill directly opposite from the main hill (Hill A).   put football field in between both hills.  put bleachers on hills, make the bleachers out of wheat.   on top of new hill (Hill B), build campanile exactly like the one on Hill A except make this one colored red and blue.  run a cable between campanile A and campanile B.  on cable b/w campaniles, mount different jayhawk piñatas filled with various jayhawk paraphernalia.  during halftime, Jay and Baby Jay can use their air powered hot dog cannons to try and break jayhawk piñatas.  if one breaks, fans under that section receive free jayhawk paraphernalia.

This has some merit.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 20, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
bones129, i bet populous will provide renderings at the KU spring game which prove my idea is much more than just a concept in my mind's eye.  pastries for thought.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 20, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
bones129, i bet populous will provide renderings at the KU spring game which prove my idea is much more than just a concept in my mind's eye.  pastries for thought.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 20, 2014, 09:54:54 PM

1.  Imagine if Minnesota's stadium was relocated to KU, and they created a tunnel system connecting the semi-open end to the hill/football complex:

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2.  The angle of the football complex is designed specifically so that it doesn't obstruct the view of the stadium and the walk from the Campanile during graduation.  KU alums were involved and did not want to imitate K-State's lifeless stadium with something like Vanier.  A large portion of KU's complex is underground and built into the side of the hill, which maximizes space.  The clip art is stupid and the color of the facade is off, so I hope they fix those two things.  The angle is not a concern, though.

3.  Both.  Weis has hinted that they might build an indoor practice facility next to the upgraded stadium as well.

lol

JUST IMAGINE A 300 MILLION DOLLAR STADIUM                                     WITH A TUNNEL SYSTEM!                                   IMAGINE IT!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Frankenklein on February 20, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
idea in my mind's eye.  build a hill directly opposite from the main hill (Hill A).   put football field in between both hills.  put bleachers on hills, make the bleachers out of wheat.   on top of new hill (Hill B), build campanile exactly like the one on Hill A except make this one colored red and blue.  run a cable between campanile A and campanile B.  on cable b/w campaniles, mount different jayhawk piñatas filled with various jayhawk paraphernalia.  during halftime, Jay and Baby Jay can use their air powered hot dog cannons to try and break jayhawk piñatas.  if one breaks, fans under that section receive free jayhawk paraphernalia.
lol at any fans being around by halftime
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: EMAWesome on February 20, 2014, 10:15:24 PM
I think KU should do something like this:
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and this inside the stadium:
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KU would never use clip art  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: wiley on February 20, 2014, 11:08:45 PM
Need to get past the setting.  I keep picturing the brainstorming starting with 2 requirements.

1.  We can`t block "the setting"
2.  Graduation requires students to walk down the hill and into the stadium.

Seriously guys, just like bama in football, "can`t eff with tradition"

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Havs on February 20, 2014, 11:12:01 PM
So, uhhh. Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 21, 2014, 09:37:54 AM
ku might have a nice setting, but the stadium itself is as lifeless as they come, with the only component rendering any measure of aesthetic appeal being the outside walls of the endzone.   

The pressbox is the architectural equivalent of placing a large Nazi Normandy coast gun emplacement on top of two above ground replicas of an Atlas ICBM silo.  The East side of the stadium looks like an above ground skeletal replica of a fall out shelter circa 1955. 

While it's understood that the football building wanted to avoid blocking views of the hill, it's overall aesthetic value is akin to a pre-cast building that you can find populating office parks in suburbia all across the country.  Dull, lifeless and uninspiring on every conceivable level.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: POWL on February 21, 2014, 09:39:12 AM
Need to get past the setting.  I keep picturing the brainstorming starting with 2 requirements.

1.  We can`t block "the setting"
2.  Graduation requires students to walk down the hill and into the stadium.

Seriously guys, just like bama in football, "can`t eff with tradition"

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it's funny how they blocked the setting with a video board and some blow-up chairs.........but what evs
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ben ji on February 21, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
ku might have a nice setting, but the stadium itself is as lifeless as they come, with the only component rendering any measure of aesthetic appeal being the outside walls of the endzone.   

The pressbox is the architectural equivalent of placing a large Nazi Normandy coast gun emplacement on top of two above ground replicas of an Atlas ICBM silo.  The East side of the stadium looks like an above ground skeletal replica of a fall out shelter circa 1955. 


While it's understood that the football building wanted to avoid blocking views of the hill, it's overall aesthetic value is akin to a pre-cast building that you can find populating office parks in suburbia all across the country.  Dull, lifeless and uninspiring on every conceivable level.

 :ROFL: Dax is on his game today.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 09:58:30 AM
While it's understood that the football building wanted to avoid blocking views of the hill, it's overall aesthetic value is akin to a pre-cast building that you can find populating office parks in suburbia all across the country.  Dull, lifeless and uninspiring on every conceivable level.

yeah. i also don't get the don't block the view of the hill while they jave a jumbotron on stilts that blocks the view of the hill.


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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 21, 2014, 10:03:06 AM
While it's understood that the football building wanted to avoid blocking views of the hill, it's overall aesthetic value is akin to a pre-cast building that you can find populating office parks in suburbia all across the country.  Dull, lifeless and uninspiring on every conceivable level.

yeah. i also don't get the don't block the view of the hill while they jave a jumbotron on stilts that blocks the view of the hill.


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That's an old pic, now the board is even bigger and blocks more of the hill. 

You go on the back side of that pressbox and you worry about a couple of German MG42 Machine Guns being stuck out the side of that little balcony up there. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
well you appear to be correct and now i'm more confused than ever. when did they build the new one and why did they build it in a way that blocks the view of the hill and vice/versa? beems? this has to come down when they redo things in a year or two, right? how old is it?

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 21, 2014, 10:10:56 AM
people over in east topeka sure do use the term "hill" loosely
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 10:13:06 AM
ok, so i guess it was built nine years ago. no way that thing stays up when they do the overhall.

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Brock Landers on February 21, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
ok, so i guess it was built nine years ago. no way that thing stays up when they do the overhall.

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What do they do then.....two videoboards in the corners?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: _33 on February 21, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
well you appear to be correct and now i'm more confused than ever. when did they build the new one and why did they build it in a way that blocks the view of the hill and vice/versa? beems? this has to come down when they redo things in a year or two, right? how old is it?

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I think they should leave it, but in between plays they should put a picture of the hill on the screen.  Or maybe even a "live look-in" of the hill from a mounted camera somewhere.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 21, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
ok, so i guess it was built nine years ago. no way that thing stays up when they do the overhall.

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What do they do then.....two videoboards in the corners?
just spit balling here but something like isu has over the bowl???
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 21, 2014, 10:30:51 AM
How tall is the video board?  Could simply put risers under the hill of the exact same height.  Bonus:  Would also create tunnels/caverns.  Part of the space is earmarked for a secret Cerner lab, just grumblings.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2014, 10:38:22 AM
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baby jay do you want to take a picture? it would last longer. jeez.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 21, 2014, 10:39:53 AM
Maybe KU should just build a new stadium around the hill. That way everyone at the game gets to see the hill the entire time. And just imagine the home field advantage a football field on a hill would provide. Charlie would probably need to get the Rascal out of the closet for the postgame handshake, though.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Institutional Control on February 21, 2014, 10:49:37 AM
They should consider doing something like Allen High School.

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 21, 2014, 10:51:36 AM
They should consider doing something like Allen High School.

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What a nightmare.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trim on February 21, 2014, 11:00:12 AM
Maybe KU should just build a new stadium around the hill. That way everyone at the game gets to see the hill the entire time. And just imagine the home field advantage a football field on a hill would provide. Charlie would probably need to get the Rascal out of the closet for the postgame handshake, though.

32-degree crown.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 11:22:20 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fworldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fcroppedphotos%2F2009%2F09%2F03%2Fmemorial_suites_addition_t650.jpg%3Feec9ecda5f66de59a37bbdb23c6f48523261b548&hash=8ba9dd6142d9a02098db92c9244bb6116e131921)

baby jay do you want to take a picture? it would last longer. jeez.

 :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 21, 2014, 01:23:26 PM
It's just imperative that they do it now.  They are just so far behind us
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MadCat on February 21, 2014, 01:26:49 PM
They should consider doing something like Allen High School.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.nydailynews.com%2Fpolopoly_fs%2F1.145477%21%2Fimg%2FhttpImage%2Fimage.jpg_gen%2Fderivatives%2Flandscape_635%2Falg-allen-stadium-birdseye-jpg.jpg&hash=8f9ef765e1c38ec5da546c3e90aeaabfd261ada2)

What a nightmare.  :sdeek:
Won't somebody please think of the children.  :ohno:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 21, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
Serious question, How many stadiums (if any) are worse than that dump in Lawrence?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 21, 2014, 01:28:35 PM
It's just imperative that they do it now.  They are just so far behind us

Well they can't really get any further behind though.  What's the rush?  They can pick it up whenever they want.  Just call a couple boosters and BOOM new stadium. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Mr Bread on February 21, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
It's just imperative that they do it now.  They are just so far behind us

oh i'm sure they'll get to it right after the new track and field thing and the new basketball apartment thing and the 18 million dollar basketball building to put the basketball rules in thing. i mean who needs to put money into fball? it's not like the stadium bathrooms have an actual real life sewage issue or they have a 3-40 conference football record over the last half a decade. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 21, 2014, 01:38:51 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun.

Big ass Kauffman Stadium style fountain on the hill? Honestly Emaw's would enjoy it more than Squawks. Fits the trend of more Cats being there for games anyway
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KSU95 on February 21, 2014, 01:42:32 PM
Is it too late to pull down the west side expansion thing and replace it with a big majestic pile of dirt?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Brock Landers on February 21, 2014, 01:45:16 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun.


Being honest here, I would be kind of jealous if KU ends up with a network of secret tunnels in their football complex.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun.


Being honest here, I would be kind of jealous if KU ends up with a network of secret tunnels in their football complex.

oh yeah. the tunnel thing sounds just great. maybe even make them kind of secret or something like move this tree branch on this tree over by the sewage pond by the fball stadium and then the tree opens up and there are stairs and then you come out by the east side concessions.  :love:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 21, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun.


Being honest here, I would be kind of jealous if KU ends up with a network of secret tunnels in their football complex.

oh yeah. the tunnel thing sounds just great. maybe even make them kind of secret or something like move this tree branch on this tree over by the sewage pond by the fball stadium and then the tree opens up and there are stairs and then you come out by the east side concessions.  :love:
could you guys imagine how fired up you would get hearing the 'click clack' reverberating down this tunnel?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb_LJ3iqu6aQq361EUOOA75CwW92gOTLHl7Wf9AFFAv46kHqNbfQ)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MadCat on February 21, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun.


Being honest here, I would be kind of jealous if KU ends up with a network of secret tunnels in their football complex.

oh yeah. the tunnel thing sounds just great. maybe even make them kind of secret or something like move this tree branch on this tree over by the sewage pond by the fball stadium and then the tree opens up and there are stairs and then you come out by the east side concessions.  :love:
could you guys imagine how fired up you would get hearing the 'click clack' reverberating down this tunnel?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb_LJ3iqu6aQq361EUOOA75CwW92gOTLHl7Wf9AFFAv46kHqNbfQ)
Wire some hidden speakers in there and just play a rhythmic whisper chant of "rock chalk rock chalk rock chalk" as they are "click clack"ing.  Chills
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 21, 2014, 02:06:16 PM
You guys aren't being serious.  Kstate AD has lapped KU and it hurts us (in the long run)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 21, 2014, 02:08:25 PM
You guys aren't being serious.  Kstate AD has lapped KU and it hurts us (in the long run)
well mr. stone until they break ground on anything substantial all we can do is speculate. i see where you are going with that but by that time we will have the nbaf and 10k+ more residents.....not worried in the least
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 21, 2014, 02:13:09 PM
You guys aren't being serious.  Kstate AD has lapped KU and it hurts us (in the long run)
well mr. stone until they break ground on anything substantial all we can do is speculate. i see where you are going with that but by that time we will have the nbaf and 10k+ more residents.....not worried in the least

they're just waiting for us to complete all of our substantial improvements, then they're going to announce everything they're doing bigger and better! count on it.. or don't, your choice
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 21, 2014, 02:14:17 PM
You guys aren't being serious.  Kstate AD has lapped KU and it hurts us (in the long run)
well mr. stone until they break ground on anything substantial all we can do is speculate. i see where you are going with that but by that time we will have the nbaf and 10k+ more residents.....not worried in the least

they're just waiting for us to complete all of our substantial improvements, then they're going to announce everything they're doing bigger and better! count on it.. or don't, your choice
sorry but ku has played opossum too many times with the improvements to their football stadium. until dirt moves im not believing it
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 21, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Being honest here, I would be kind of jealous if KU ends up with a network of secret tunnels in their football complex.

Oh hell yes.  Imagine the halftime show.  Band be popping out from under the field and stuff! 
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedias.gifboom.com%2Fmedias%2Ft_55c44e31df6a4553ba99ae5311db8143.jpg&hash=1e03f32bb4de3a9ad1bf006fa0a15b00ff80a28b)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 21, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
You guys aren't being serious.  Kstate AD has lapped KU and it hurts us (in the long run)
well mr. stone until they break ground on anything substantial all we can do is speculate. i see where you are going with that but by that time we will have the nbaf and 10k+ more residents.....not worried in the least

they're just waiting for us to complete all of our substantial improvements, then they're going to announce everything they're doing bigger and better! count on it.. or don't, your choice
sorry but ku has played opossum too many times with the improvements to their football stadium. until dirt moves im not believing it

@emawmeister
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 21, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
You guys aren't being serious.  Kstate AD has lapped KU and it hurts us (in the long run)
This, our guys have to go there every other year.  What kind of message does this send to our youngsters, that we force them to have to traipse around in crummy digs like that?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: The Whale on February 21, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
beems sure does love him some tunnels and tiny hills.  I don't recall ever having heard someone sell a hill as any sort of attraction.  Tunnels are great though imo.  So much fun.


Being honest here, I would be kind of jealous if KU ends up with a network of secret tunnels in their football complex.

oh yeah. the tunnel thing sounds just great. maybe even make them kind of secret or something like move this tree branch on this tree over by the sewage pond by the fball stadium and then the tree opens up and there are stairs and then you come out by the east side concessions.  :love:
could you guys imagine how fired up you would get hearing the 'click clack' reverberating down this tunnel?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSb_LJ3iqu6aQq361EUOOA75CwW92gOTLHl7Wf9AFFAv46kHqNbfQ)
Wire some hidden speakers in there and just play a rhythmic whisper chant of "rock chalk rock chalk rock chalk" as they are "click clack"ing.  Chills

Or THUNDERSTUCK
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kermit on February 21, 2014, 03:27:49 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F02%2F22%2F3ema9a3u.jpg&hash=400e32b416245e120bda48a52c3287cc2e9618bb)

This was taken just outside the bathrooms on the east side this past fall. 

Look at that TV  :Wha:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2014, 03:29:33 PM
holy crap
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: mocat on February 21, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
KU could hire this guy for $20/hr to play during FB games and they would set attendance records

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Institutional Control on February 21, 2014, 03:35:52 PM
The vintage TV really helps accentuate the architecture. JMO
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: deputy dawg on February 21, 2014, 04:02:52 PM
It's just imperative that they do it now.  They are just so far behind us

oh i'm sure they'll get to it right after the new track and field thing and the new basketball apartment thing and the 18 million dollar basketball building to put the basketball rules in thing. i mean who needs to put money into fball? it's not like the stadium bathrooms have an actual real life sewage issue or they have a 3-40 conference football record over the last half a decade.

Wow, Mr. Daris, you sure are negative about the raw sewage on the bathroom floors at Memorial.  I just feel sorry for them, the municipality of Lawrentucky has to maintain and upgrade the sewer mains in the old part of town in order for Memorial to improve in that dept., as is, they've invested in the west side of town for the benefit of the Lawrentucky upper crust.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Benja on February 21, 2014, 05:20:36 PM
Guys I'm not sure what Mark's strategy is here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLJiVqhg.jpg&hash=079a200bbac37d278e72ff7cdb35dfccfbf3cf47)

Holy crap
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 21, 2014, 05:40:19 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F02%2F22%2F3ema9a3u.jpg&hash=400e32b416245e120bda48a52c3287cc2e9618bb)

This was taken just outside the bathrooms on the east side this past fall. 

Look at that TV  :Wha:

That TV has 100 times more character and tradition than you'll ever have.  I'd rather have that old tube TV on our campus than your out-of-place huge flatscreen in the middle of a black asphalt desert.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 21, 2014, 05:43:17 PM
I can't wait until our renderings are released.  Zenger shrewdly waited until after you finalized all your plans so that he could build something just slightly better.  The man is a genius.  As for the funds, well, ha ha, I wouldn't worry about that: www.kuendowment.org
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 21, 2014, 05:44:18 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 21, 2014, 06:46:50 PM
When BMW talks of tunnels I can't help but think of how they'll no doubt provide seamless access to their German pillbox


(https://www.vetfriends.com/militarypics/images/large/WWI%20German%20Trenches.jpg)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KSU95 on February 21, 2014, 06:55:59 PM
Guys I'm not sure what Mark's strategy is here.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLJiVqhg.jpg&hash=079a200bbac37d278e72ff7cdb35dfccfbf3cf47)

Holy crap

Am I the only one checking every time this picture pops up to see how the game is progressing?  My moneys on Mangino.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 21, 2014, 07:00:14 PM
KU could hire this guy for $20/hr to play during FB games and they would set attendance records

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M)
They could get these guys for basketball, and still preserve their nose in the air attitude towards court rushing
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83896505/ (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83896505/)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: meow meow on February 21, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
I can't wait until our renderings are released.  Zenger shrewdly waited until after you finalized all your plans so that he could build something just slightly better.  The man is a genius.  As for the funds, well, ha ha, I wouldn't worry about that: www.kuendowment.org

Who's sock is this?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 21, 2014, 08:54:47 PM
There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bucket on February 21, 2014, 09:49:17 PM
Welcome to goEMAW, phog.net  :love:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 21, 2014, 09:51:39 PM
I can't wait until our renderings are released.  Zenger shrewdly waited until after you finalized all your plans so that he could build something just slightly better.  The man is a genius.  As for the funds, well, ha ha, I wouldn't worry about that: www.kuendowment.org

Genius? The same guy who hired Weis?   :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 21, 2014, 10:01:48 PM
I can't wait until our renderings are released.  Zenger shrewdly waited until after you finalized all your plans so that he could build something just slightly better.  The man is a genius.  As for the funds, well, ha ha, I wouldn't worry about that: www.kuendowment.org

Genius? The same guy who hired Weis?   :lol:

Charlie Weis has 3 Super Bowl rings. How many does KSU have?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 21, 2014, 10:03:46 PM
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Tobias on February 21, 2014, 10:08:50 PM
looks like the un wfp is late on its bodybag drop
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cire on February 22, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F02%2F22%2F3ema9a3u.jpg&hash=400e32b416245e120bda48a52c3287cc2e9618bb)

This was taken just outside the bathrooms on the east side this past fall. 

Look at that TV  :Wha:

That TV has 100 times more character and tradition than you'll ever have.  I'd rather have that old tube TV on our campus than your out-of-place huge flatscreen in the middle of a black asphalt desert.

Looks like they are getting ready to defend Omaha beach
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 22, 2014, 11:24:03 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F02%2F22%2F3ema9a3u.jpg&hash=400e32b416245e120bda48a52c3287cc2e9618bb)

This was taken just outside the bathrooms on the east side this past fall. 

Look at that TV  :Wha:

That TV has 100 times more character and tradition than you'll ever have.  I'd rather have that old tube TV on our campus than your out-of-place huge flatscreen in the middle of a black asphalt desert.

Looks like they are getting ready to defend Omaha beach

They go with the nostalgic, out of date look. Fuzzy Screens are the best
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: O-town Kat on February 22, 2014, 11:44:01 AM
I liked the miscellaneous rubbish they had stored in plain sight under the bleachers.
Title: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: OregonSmock on February 22, 2014, 12:38:26 PM
More ku threads, please.
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: Cartierfor3 on February 22, 2014, 12:42:54 PM
THE STADIUM HAS A TRACK!!!!!!!!! THAT IS SO LAME
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 22, 2014, 05:10:24 PM
Next thing you know the phogsock will tell us that $1.2 billion is cash in hand.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 22, 2014, 06:32:57 PM
KU could hire this guy for $20/hr to play during FB games and they would set attendance records

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5J116IM6M)

So, 4200 people?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 22, 2014, 07:23:50 PM
Next thing you know the phogsock will tell us that $1.2 billion is cash in hand.

Might as well be kitty...when you've got the kind of alumni we do the funds are unlimited. Little bit more money rolling around KU guys than your wheat farmers out there in western Kansas. Sorry, just reality.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Katpappy on February 22, 2014, 08:57:54 PM
You know this this was going downhill fast, until Mr. Phog Sock came around with these amazing one-liners.  :love:  :ROFL:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 22, 2014, 09:06:19 PM
You know this this was going downhill fast, until Mr. Phog Sock came around with these amazing one-liners.  :love:  :ROFL:

Saved the thread.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ArchE_Cat on February 23, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.

Oh the things I wish I was allowed to tell you about RCP. If KU can't afford to pay for that facility what makes you think they'll be able to afford a decent football renovation?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 23, 2014, 02:15:02 PM
There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.

Oh the things I wish I was allowed to tell you about RCP. If KU can't afford to pay for that facility what makes you think they'll be able to afford a decent football renovation?

Did you read my post?  KU has $1.2B raised to spend.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 23, 2014, 04:13:13 PM
Meanwhile Big Bro doesn't need any super special campaigns, just moves on like a boss with another $62 million in privately funded facilities improvements.

ku athletics:  Hey, uh, could you guys over at Housing Services take on a bunch of debt so we can build a basketball dorm.  Oh, uh, hey, lets put together some kind of funky financing, 50 year lease, City-University partnership so we can build a new track 5 miles off of campus.



Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: CatMission on February 23, 2014, 04:13:44 PM

There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.

Oh the things I wish I was allowed to tell you about RCP. If KU can't afford to pay for that facility what makes you think they'll be able to afford a decent football renovation?

Did you read my post?  KU has $1.2B raised to spend.
Dear Sock,

Please review the entirety of this thread to learn that the Endowment is not the athletic department's fund-raising arm or its ATM.

Sincerely,


ge.com


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ArchE_Cat on February 23, 2014, 08:38:37 PM
There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.

Oh the things I wish I was allowed to tell you about RCP. If KU can't afford to pay for that facility what makes you think they'll be able to afford a decent football renovation?

Did you read my post?  KU has $1.2B raised to spend.

Yeah because that's how endowments work, also there's no way this is a sock
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 24, 2014, 08:56:18 AM
Stop the endowment talk  :facepalm:
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 11:12:55 AM
I just checked... KU still has a track.  Let's discuss it.
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: Trogdor on February 24, 2014, 12:06:10 PM
I just checked... KU still has a track.  Let's discuss it.
1) Track
2) Erector Set
3) Potter Lake Pond

Am I missing anything?
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:17:06 PM
I just checked... KU still has a track.  Let's discuss it.

Can you check on Big 12 titles real quick?
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
I just checked... KU still has a track.  Let's discuss it.

Can you check on Big 12 titles real quick?


KU - 30

lil bro - 14
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 12:20:30 PM
Everybody Stand Up and Cheer!  The Big 12's Fightin Jayhawks are Here!!  Blue Wings Rising!!!

W   10/10/2009   41   Iowa St.   36    :tsc:
L   10/17/2009   30   Colorado   34   
L   10/24/2009   13   Oklahoma   35   
L   10/31/2009   21   Texas Tech   42   
L   11/7/2009   10   Kansas St.   17   
L   11/14/2009   17   Nebraska   31   
L   11/21/2009   20   Texas   51   
L   11/28/2009   39   Missouri   41   
L   10/2/2010   7   Baylor (TX)   55   
L   10/14/2010   7   Kansas St.   59   
L   10/23/2010   10   Texas A&M   45   
L   10/30/2010   16   Iowa St.   28   
W   11/6/2010   52   Colorado   45    :tsc:
L   11/13/2010   3   Nebraska   20   
L   11/20/2010   14   Oklahoma St.   48   
L   11/27/2010   7   Missouri   35   
L   10/8/2011   28   Oklahoma St.   70   
L   10/15/2011   17   Oklahoma   47   
L   10/22/2011   21   Kansas St.   59   
L   10/29/2011   0   Texas   43   
L   11/5/2011   10   Iowa St.   13   
L   11/12/2011   30   Baylor (TX)   31   
L   11/19/2011   7   Texas A&M   61   
L   11/26/2011   10   Missouri   24   
L   10/6/2012   16   Kansas St.   56   
L   10/13/2012   14   Oklahoma St.   20   
L   10/20/2012   7   Oklahoma   52   
L   10/27/2012   17   Texas   21   
L   11/3/2012   14   Baylor (TX)   41   
L   11/10/2012   34   Texas Tech   41   
L   11/17/2012   23   Iowa St.   51   
L   12/1/2012   10   West Virginia   59   
L   10/5/2013   16   Texas Tech   54   
L   10/12/2013   17   Texas Christian   27   
L   10/19/2013   19   Oklahoma   34   
L   10/26/2013   14   Baylor (TX)   59   
L   11/2/2013   13   Texas   35   
L   11/9/2013   6   Oklahoma St.   42   
W   11/16/2013   31   West Virginia   19    :tsc:
L   11/23/2013   0   Iowa St.   34   
L   11/30/2013   10   Kansas St.   31   
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:21:34 PM
I just checked... KU still has a track.  Let's discuss it.

Can you check on Big 12 titles real quick?


KU - 30

lil bro - 14

Can you check for Big 12 titles real quick?
Title: Re: ku stadium and other topics
Post by: ArchE_Cat on February 24, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
I just checked... KU still has a track.  Let's discuss it.
1) Track
2) Erector Set
3) Potter Lake Pond

Am I missing anything?

Potential bus garage right next to stadium
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:25:49 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

worse sports
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 12:26:16 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

i tried to start a new thread with an honest discussion about ku's fball stadium and this is how you repay me?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:27:24 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

i tried to start a new thread with an honest discussion about ku's fball stadium and this is how you repay me?


Why do you guys care so much about KU?  Doesn't K-State have a football stadium you can discuss?


 :confused:


Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:28:39 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

worse sports


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 12:29:04 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 12:31:50 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

i tried to start a new thread with an honest discussion about ku's fball stadium and this is how you repay me?


Why do you guys care so much about KU?  Doesn't K-State have a football stadium you can discuss?


 :confused:

yeah there is and our discussion of it is probably the most popular thread on the entire site. i thought it would be fun to look at ku's stadium as well and then everybody gets to say what they would do if they were in charge or guess what ku is going to do. i mean that sounds/sounded like something worthwhile. like, there are only so many cool ranch vs regular doritos discussions i can have in a given week.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:33:45 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:35:21 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

i tried to start a new thread with an honest discussion about ku's fball stadium and this is how you repay me?


Why do you guys care so much about KU?  Doesn't K-State have a football stadium you can discuss?


 :confused:

yeah there is and our discussion of it is probably the most popular thread on the entire site. i thought it would be fun to look at ku's stadium as well and then everybody gets to say what they would do if they were in charge or guess what ku is going to do. i mean that sounds/sounded like something worthwhile. like, there are only so many cool ranch vs regular doritos discussions i can have in a given week.


And I (as well as a couple others) tried to have an honest discussion, and then the circle jerk broke out and your butthurt fanbase had to turn it into another anti-KU hate thread.  News flash:  K-State's stadium isn't that nice either.  Your stadium is in the middle of nowhere, dug into a hole, surrounded by a parking lot with a cruise ship on one side.  It looks horrible compared to most legitimate D-1 football stadiums.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 12:36:42 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.



Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

i tried to start a new thread with an honest discussion about ku's fball stadium and this is how you repay me?


Why do you guys care so much about KU?  Doesn't K-State have a football stadium you can discuss?


 :confused:

yeah there is and our discussion of it is probably the most popular thread on the entire site. i thought it would be fun to look at ku's stadium as well and then everybody gets to say what they would do if they were in charge or guess what ku is going to do. i mean that sounds/sounded like something worthwhile. like, there are only so many cool ranch vs regular doritos discussions i can have in a given week.


And I (as well as a couple others) tried to have an honest discussion, and then the circle jerk broke out and your butthurt fanbase had to turn into another anti-KU hate thread.

don't get me wrong. if it were up to me, i'd put the entire lot of you over my knee and give you a good spanking.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2014, 12:38:14 PM
I'd meltdown too if I knew I was going to be stuck with the same women for the remainder of my life.  :runaway:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ArchE_Cat on February 24, 2014, 12:38:26 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.
release the daxen!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:38:41 PM
Have they completely scrapped the Gridiron club?  That would be a huge shame
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Dax when is KU going to the board of whatever and brief them on the coming improvements?  Assuming they haven't yet, I have to assume our improvements to the NEZ etc will happen before theirs?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:40:00 PM
Dax when is KU going to the board of whatever and brief them on the coming improvements?  Assuming they haven't yet, I have to assume our improvements to the NEZ etc will happen before theirs?

I thought it was done with the plans to be released right after basketball season
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
Dax when is KU going to the board of whatever and brief them on the coming improvements?  Assuming they haven't yet, I have to assume our improvements to the NEZ etc will happen before theirs?

I thought it was done with the plans to be released right after basketball season

Huh, didn't know that.  How much money we talking here? 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 12:43:32 PM
Dax when is KU going to the board of whatever and brief them on the coming improvements?  Assuming they haven't yet, I have to assume our improvements to the NEZ etc will happen before theirs?

 :dunno:   They haven't officially requested anything yet, just had the KBOR add it to the KBOR school's facilities timeline which gets changed fairly often. 



Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: meow meow on February 24, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
1.2 billion with a B
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:44:30 PM
Dax when is KU going to the board of whatever and brief them on the coming improvements?  Assuming they haven't yet, I have to assume our improvements to the NEZ etc will happen before theirs?

I thought it was done with the plans to be released right after basketball season

Huh, didn't know that.  How much money we talking here?

I think their intent was to see what we do and blow it out of the water so probably $150 million+
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:45:33 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.


The lease is for 30 years, $40 million, and it will all be privately financed.  I haven't paid close attention to K-State's facilities news because I'm a KU fan.  I actually enjoy watching my own team win.  You should try it sometime.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.


The lease is for 30 years, $40 million, and it will all be privately financed.  I haven't paid close attention to K-State's facilities news because I'm a KU fan. I actually enjoy watching my own team win.  You should try it sometime.

 :D
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 12:47:25 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.


The lease is for 30 years, $40 million, and it will all be privately financed.  I haven't paid close attention to K-State's facilities news because I'm a KU fan.  I actually enjoy watching my own team win.  You should try it sometime.

You're glued to every post on this board my friend, that's why you have thousands of posts on here.

Oh, and in terms of football, if winning 3 out of 41 conference games gives you joy, than you are living large TSC buddy.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:49:30 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.


The lease is for 30 years, $40 million, and it will all be privately financed.  I haven't paid close attention to K-State's facilities news because I'm a KU fan.  I actually enjoy watching my own team win.  You should try it sometime.

You're glued to every post on this board my friend, that's why you have thousands of posts on here.

Oh, and in terms of football, if losing 38 out of 41 conference games gives you joy, than you are living large TSC buddy.




I've been posting on here since 2010... the posts add up.  I don't read every page of every thread, or anything close to what you want to believe in your delusional little head.  I mainly just chime in on discussions related to KU, which can add up when KU discussion dominates this board 365 days a year.

As for KU football, yeah, it's been a tough few years.  It sucks when your team loses and when your program falls off a map just a few years after winning a BCS Bowl and going 12-1.  It sucks losing to your in-state rival when your alma mater went 4-1 against them during your time in school.  But you know what?  I wouldn't trade being a KU fan for anything.  The tough times just make the good times that much better, and I appreciate what we have in hoops that much more. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 24, 2014, 12:50:08 PM
better campus, better town, better school, better students

This all seems very subjective.  I'd be curious what your reasoning was?  I'll admit that KSU graduation is underwhelming in comparison to KU's.  My older sister graduated there and after seeing the march down the hill into Memorial I was very excited about what KSU graduation would be like.  In case you are unaware, KSU graduation is so that professors can congratulate each other and it is just awful. Beyond that. . I can't see anything that is hands down "better" in everyone's opinion.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.
lol don't be upset because we have almost paid off our Ferrari in a little over a year when you can't even lease a pacer

Btw the basketball board is ----> way
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 12:52:41 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.


The lease is for 30 years, $40 million, and it will all be privately financed.  I haven't paid close attention to K-State's facilities news because I'm a KU fan.  I actually enjoy watching my own team win.  You should try it sometime.

You're glued to every post on this board my friend, that's why you have thousands of posts on here.

Oh, and in terms of football, if losing 38 out of 41 conference games gives you joy, than you are living large TSC buddy.




I've been posting on here since 2010... the posts add up.  I don't read every page of every thread, or anything close to what you want to believe in your delusional little head.  I mainly just chime in on discussions related to KU, which can add up when KU discussion dominates this board 365 days a year.

Back in your homeland, when it's actually operational, just a single K-State game can occupy 7-10 pages and hundreds of posts over the course of a couple of hours.    This thread and others have gone on for days, weeks, months. 

Perspective; not just a breakfast food.

Full fledged validation and affirmation mode is your strongest of traits, never stop.



Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
The phog has multiple game threads, 'Pad.  This site has had system maintenance before as well.  It's okay to just admit that you hate KU more than you love K-State.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
LOL.  he's defending phog.net. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 12:59:28 PM
Big Bro:  Another $62 million in facilities improvements.

Lil Bro:  Hey uh, City of Lawrence and some other dude, and some foundation, could you ah, lease us some land 5 miles off campus for 50 years so we can build a new track.   

Memorial Stadium Improvements coming 2015!!   :crossfingers:


Private financing vs. adding another $62 million to K-State's $83 million in long-term debt.  I'm sure you'd be making fun of that if the shoe were on the other foot.

The next $62 million will all be privately funded.   You don't pay very close attention when you're mad, and with the lease, ku just hooked itself to a 50 year financial obligation.


The lease is for 30 years, $40 million, and it will all be privately financed.  I haven't paid close attention to K-State's facilities news because I'm a KU fan.  I actually enjoy watching my own team win.  You should try it sometime.

You're glued to every post on this board my friend, that's why you have thousands of posts on here.

Oh, and in terms of football, if losing 38 out of 41 conference games gives you joy, than you are living large TSC buddy.




I've been posting on here since 2010... the posts add up.  I don't read every page of every thread, or anything close to what you want to believe in your delusional little head.  I mainly just chime in on discussions related to KU, which can add up when KU discussion dominates this board 365 days a year.

As for KU football, yeah, it's been a tough few years.  It sucks when your team loses and when your program falls off a map just a few years after winning a BCS Bowl and going 12-1.  It sucks losing to your in-state rival when your alma mater went 4-1 against them during your time in school.  But you know what?  I wouldn't trade being a KU fan for anything.  The tough times just make the good times that much better, and I appreciate what we have in hoops that much more.

Would you care to explain your major meltdown on Saturday?  that wasn't the work of someone who just chimes in on ku threads.  You sprayed crap all over our board like a drunken Arkansas fan and none of it was even slightly original or funny.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
LOL.  he's defending phog.net.
did she say no? We are here for you beems
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 01:09:36 PM
The phog has multiple game threads, 'Pad.  This site has had system maintenance before as well.  It's okay to just admit that you hate KU more than you love K-State.

I actually dislike mu much more then I've ever disliked TSC friend ku.   

Again, you're in full validation and affirmation mode because you know you convinced yourself about 4 or 5 years ago that ku had surpassed K-State once and for all.   The Gridiron Club banners were going up, Mark Mangino coached ku football, you bragged and bragged about all the money ku had, you claimed K-State was in a "shambles" and laughed and laughed. 

4 years later, and $128 million dollars in facilities improvements at K-State, with another $62 million in the final stages, nearly $100 million in private giving to K-State athletics in the last 4 years, Emaw elite donors giving millions of dollars.   Now phognet in angst laden near meltdown over the lack of information about facilities, legislature shoots down ku athletics sorry attempt to build a basketball dorm, the once proposed on campus "olympic village" is being built 5 miles off campus, Big 12 Schools pouring 10's even 100's of millions into football facilities . . . and ku hints they might do something in a year or two in the midst of a 3 win in 41 games conference record in the last 5 years.   

No wonder you're melting down.   Sorry friend.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: AbeFroman on February 24, 2014, 01:15:00 PM


As for KU football, yeah, it's been a tough few years.  It sucks when your team loses and when your program falls off a map just a few years after winning a BCS Bowl and going 12-1.  It sucks losing to your in-state rival when your alma mater went 4-1 against them during your time in school.  But you know what?  I wouldn't trade being a KU fan for anything.  The tough times just make the good times that much better, and I appreciate what we have in hoops that much more.

I think you meant "one". "Few" implies you didn't await history the following season
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: _33 on February 24, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception.

Have you ever considered not caring about any of this stupid stuff?  It's working really well for me.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 01:19:45 PM
You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception.
let us know when they(you)tsc over at the phog.net and then you can say this. Don't act like it doesn't work both ways dumbass
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception.

Just relax about K-State.  It's not really that big of a deal.  Very few of us even bother to post on any ku boards, let alone spam the hell out of their board.  We don't need that crap over here.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ydarg2012 on February 24, 2014, 01:28:49 PM
I'm curious Smock, why do you come on goEMAW? Is it curiousity? An addiction to trolling? Or are you legitimately an EMAW supporter?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 01:29:08 PM
You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception.

Friend, the pure, unadulterated hate of K-State, particularly amongst the old timey ku crowd is a wonder to experience in real life.   There's a reason K-State occupies vast quadrants of the ku all-time record crowd charts, there's a reason why Perkins and Alden moved the ku vs mu game to Arrowhead and it was because the ku vs mu game on campus(es) rarely sold out, most of the time the game had 1000's of empty seats.   

In football, if the roles were reversed between ku and K-State, phogtuck land would be having a 24/7 fap fest.   

You lack perspective, sorry friend.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
I'm curious Smock, why do you come on goEMAW? Is it curiousity? An addiction to trolling? Or are you legitimately an EMAW supporter?

Our board is the best in the biz.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Havs on February 24, 2014, 01:36:34 PM
I'm curious Smock, why do you come on goEMAW? Is it curiousity? An addiction to trolling? Or are you legitimately an EMAW supporter?

Our board is the best in the biz.

Better posters than on any Cyclone board.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: phog.net on February 24, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.

Oh the things I wish I was allowed to tell you about RCP. If KU can't afford to pay for that facility what makes you think they'll be able to afford a decent football renovation?

Did you read my post?  KU has $1.2B raised to spend.

Yeah because that's how endowments work, also there's no way this is a sock

I think I know a little bit more about endowments than you do.  I got my degree in Endowments from Baker.  From what I am hearing, KU is planning a massive overhaul of the stadium.  It will put your rinky dink hole in the ground to shame when it's done.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 01:38:15 PM
I'm curious Smock, why do you come on goEMAW? Is it curiousity? An addiction to trolling? Or are you legitimately an EMAW supporter?

Our board is the best in the biz.

Better posters than on any Cyclone board.

water is wet (and ruins wood basketball floors)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
There are two years left on the latest $1.2B KU Endowment Far Above campaign.  I have heard they have raised almost $1B of that amount.  KU Athletics and KU Endowment will work together, so I would expect the timing of the football renovation will coordinate with Rock Chalk Park finishing up, the Far Above closing out, or perhaps be the last big hurrah! of the campaign.

Oh the things I wish I was allowed to tell you about RCP. If KU can't afford to pay for that facility what makes you think they'll be able to afford a decent football renovation?

Did you read my post?  KU has $1.2B raised to spend.

Yeah because that's how endowments work, also there's no way this is a sock

I think I know a little bit more about endowments than you do.  I got my degree in Endowments from Baker.  From what I am hearing, KU is planning a massive overhaul of the stadium.  It will put your rinky dink hole in the ground to shame when it's done.

awesome post
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 01:45:40 PM
ku's total football facilities improvements over the last 15-16 years:  $63 million (that even includes new videoboards and such).  ku has $50 million dollars listed on the KBOR timeline for 2015. 

K-State's total football facilities improvements over the last 15-16 years:  $117 million.  K-State has an estimated $62 million approved by the KBOR in additional football facilities improvements.

ku's stadium needs a massive overhaul to bring it up to major conference D1 standards. 

 



Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 01:46:06 PM


As for KU football, yeah, it's been a tough few years.  It sucks when your team loses and when your program falls off a map just a few years after winning a BCS Bowl and going 12-1.  It sucks losing to your in-state rival when your alma mater went 4-1 against them during your time in school.  But you know what?  I wouldn't trade being a KU fan for anything.  The tough times just make the good times that much better, and I appreciate what we have in hoops that much more.

I think you meant "one". "Few" implies you didn't await history the following season


KU went 8-5 and won the BWW/Insight Bowl the year after the Orange Bowl.  Started 5-0 and top 15 in '09.


You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception.
let us know when they(you)tsc over at the phog.net and then you can say this. Don't act like it doesn't work both ways dumbass


I must have missed the "eff K-State" chant during the KU/KSU game in AFH. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
Beems is just a typical ku fan who demands nothing but accolades and adulation for ku at all times.

A clear and defined level of low self esteem.





Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 24, 2014, 01:50:48 PM
since we're :kstategrad:

we should give KU's embarrassment of an AD a crazy high interest loan to make renovations. we can either make a shitload of money off them and it raises the bar to do more renovations on our side, or we can laugh at them as they miss payment after payment and we can send a collections company after them.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg688%2F2256%2Fxn9d2d.jpg&hash=0bca006064cc2235e6d3c25152a8bc336c24a0f4)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
the ku fans at the football game this year screamed "rip his fracking head off" at us.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 01:51:55 PM
Beems is just a typical ku fan who demands nothing but accolades and adulation for ku at all times.

A clear and defined level of low self esteem.


I'm not demanding anything.  Just pointing out the fact that goEMAW spends a lot of time discussing KU.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 01:52:34 PM
the ku fans at the football game this year screamed "rip his fracking head off" at us.


Don't be that guy.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2014, 01:53:11 PM
The phog has a K-state game thread for EVERY K-state game. They're obsessed.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 01:54:30 PM
The phog has a K-state game thread for EVERY K-state game. They're obsessed.


We have a game thread for pretty much every conference bball game.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 01:57:01 PM
Beems is just a typical ku fan who demands nothing but accolades and adulation for ku at all times.

A clear and defined level of low self esteem.


I'm not demanding anything.  Just pointing out the fact that goEMAW spends a lot of time discussing KU.

All the outrage by ku fans in regards to any perceived slight, or any perceived lack of class never fits the reality of their own actions.   

ku fans simply cannot stomach anyone having some fun at their expense.  Sad, but a clear sign of a lack of self esteem and worth.

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: The Big Train on February 24, 2014, 02:13:46 PM
Phog.net still down
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 0.42 on February 24, 2014, 02:17:44 PM
beems (friend), don't you like the connect four idea? i thought it was a creative way to start a conversation on ways to re-use america's crumbling infrastructure.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rough Rider on February 24, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
I think I know a little bit more about endowments than you do.  I got my degrees in Endowments from JCCC and Baker.  From what I am hearing, KU is planning a massive overhaul of the stadium.  It will put your rinky dink hole in the ground to shame when it's done.
fyp
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 24, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
the ku fans at the football game this year screamed "rip his fracking head off" at us.


Don't be that guy.

He doesn't want the truth. He can't handle the truth! :ohno:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 24, 2014, 02:29:42 PM
I think I know a little bit more about endowments than you do.  I got my degrees in Endowments from JCCC and Baker.  From what I am hearing, KU is planning a massive overhaul of the stadium.  It will put your rinky dink hole in the ground to shame when it's done.
fyp

.net is knows his stuff guys!  :ROFL:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 02:35:56 PM
the ku fans at the football game this year screamed "rip his fracking head off" at us.


Don't be that guy.

He doesn't want the truth. He can't handle the truth! :ohno:


If you can't see the difference between a movie reference and an "eff KU" chant, I can't help you.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 24, 2014, 02:39:35 PM
I hate the "eff KU" chant, too. Some of our fans just really like being able to anonymously drop f bombs in public.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
You can only repress a good meltdown for so long, I guess.  I didn't even see that one coming honestly.  It just seems like most of the people on this board would rather hate on KU than say something good about K-State.  There was a time when fans like Dax were the exception to the rule, but now it just seems like K-State fans hate the crap out of KU like never before.  The "eff KU" chant from the student section and the constant circle jerk to KU's horrendous football program are just two examples of this recent phenomenon.  Social media brings out the worst in people, and this board is no exception.
let us know when they(you)tsc over at the phog.net and then you can say this. Don't act like it doesn't work both ways dumbass


I must have missed the "eff K-State" chant during the KU/KSU game in AFH.

when was the last time you were at a ku/kstate game in afh? just because you cant hear it on tv doesnt mean your student section doesnt chant stupid crap. can't really help it that we are louder than you guys
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
the ku fans at the football game this year screamed "rip his fracking head off" at us.


Don't be that guy.

calm down
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 03:24:22 PM
the ku fans at the football game this year screamed "rip his fracking head off" at us.


Don't be that guy.

He doesn't want the truth. He can't handle the truth! :ohno:


If you can't see the difference between a movie reference and an "eff KU" chant, I can't help you.

Don't be that guy
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 24, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
guys:  Don't be those guys...
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 24, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fb.vimeocdn.com%2Fts%2F447%2F960%2F447960620_640.jpg&hash=ee1af501366c309260c3895eac165f76a100677f)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
so i hear people say lower the field but then i've also heard people say it's not feasible. thoughts?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 24, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
It is possible, but instead of lowering the field, I'd rather just raze the stadium.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 24, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
Oops, I meant raise the stadium.  Or did I???
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 03:42:57 PM
so i hear people say lower the field but then i've also heard people say it's not feasible. thoughts?

Not sure, but one thing is sure; they've smoked that one over for about 25 years in Lawrence.   

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on February 24, 2014, 03:44:41 PM
track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 03:46:03 PM
what would the benefit of lowering the field be in the first place because i'm struggling to grasp why people even talk about it? are they thinking just keep everything else the same and then add like seven more rows all the way around the shoe on the inside of the stadium? because that sounds like just a horrible idea.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
what would the benefit of lowering the field be in the first place because i'm struggling to grasp why people even talk about it? are they thinking just keep everything else the same and then add like seven more rows all the way around the shoe on the inside of the stadium? because that sounds like just a horrible idea.
the field is very far away from the stadium in the end zones, you are talking a hell of a lot more than 7 rows
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Tobias on February 24, 2014, 03:48:56 PM
sounds like it would be a big hole in the ground
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into.

remove one lane every other year.  BANGO
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 0.42 on February 24, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into.

yeah i mean texas state did it which if KU wants to elevate their football program's status to their level then by all means it'll be good for everyone but if they can't afford it then maybe gE should set up a collection fund ya know?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 03:51:53 PM
the track removal i get. that has to be done. it's the whole lower the field thing that has me perplexed. what's the end game w/ that? why do it?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 03:53:05 PM
Here is an example of what I was talking about RD

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsd7MQT.png&hash=10963d6afb2378c31e578b567a5a032406c86572)

They should tear everything up, shove the field up against the north(?) bleachers and redo the south/hill
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 03:55:24 PM
Here is an example of what I was talking about RD

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsd7MQT.png&hash=10963d6afb2378c31e578b567a5a032406c86572)

They should tear everything up, shove the field up against the north(?) bleachers and redo the south/hill

That press box is the worst in America.  It's gotta go.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
Here is an example of what I was talking about RD

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsd7MQT.png&hash=10963d6afb2378c31e578b567a5a032406c86572)

They should tear everything up, shove the field up against the north(?) bleachers and redo the south/hill

That press box is the worst in America.  It's gotta go.

I feel so very badly for any D-Day vets that must face that concrete monolith.   I hope no broadcaster sticks a mic boom out an open window. 

I mean really, a cruise ship or a replica of one of Hitler's death fortresses?







Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 04:01:46 PM
Also how is beems always bragging about their football training building? That thing is tiny and our new cafeteria dwarfs it
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KSU95 on February 24, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
What about leaving the track and letting kids race go-carts during the game?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
Also how is beems always bragging about their football training building? That thing is tiny and our new cafeteria dwarfs it

a lot of it is underground i think and the inside actually looks pretty nice. the building itself is pretty horrific looking, but on the inside it's serviceable.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
I am excited for their renderings in a month or so. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
Also how is beems always bragging about their football training building? That thing is tiny and our new cafeteria dwarfs it

a lot of it is underground i think and the inside actually looks pretty nice. the building itself is pretty horrific looking, but on the inside it's serviceable.
okay that makes sense, I wish we had the kind of room they do to work with. We are running out of room
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 24, 2014, 04:14:06 PM
track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into.

yeah i mean texas state did it which if KU wants to elevate their football program's status to their level then by all means it'll be good for everyone but if they can't afford it then maybe gE should set up a collection fund ya know?

They should just copy what Texas State is doing, would be a rough ridin' home run for them.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thunderjags.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fbobcats_Old.jpg&hash=15af9c3d89d251cac55b65da6cda6cad7e67c5d1)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin.pbworld.com%2Fimages%2F2012_09%2Fimg_bobcat_stadium1.jpg&hash=3e6178d67be5e9d20f23868bdd2bb3dca064ae2f)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmmercury.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2FTxState_Bobcat_Stadium_Facilities_Map.jpg&hash=a5dcf33545f574efa4ed5fabb1952f3bf40bd93a)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ua.txstate.edu%2Ffromthehill%2Fseptember2010%2Fimages%2FTxSt-BobcatStadium-Masterplan.jpg&hash=4af7fef3a3f4c3805f36f22e5952fd6eee954ce7)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
That may be too expensive
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 04:18:16 PM
Here is an example of what I was talking about RD

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsd7MQT.png&hash=10963d6afb2378c31e578b567a5a032406c86572)

They should tear everything up, shove the field up against the north(?) bleachers and redo the south/hill

That press box is the worst in America.  It's gotta go.

I feel so very badly for any D-Day vets that must face that concrete monolith.   I hope no broadcaster sticks a mic boom out an open window. 

I mean really, a cruise ship or a replica of one of Hitler's death fortresses?


This was K-State's pressbox up until 2013:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi175.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw158%2Fwabash_huggieville%2FDSCF0880-1.jpg&hash=80490060be99a0e9d4b2d5362898f97ae903ebff)


Also notice how the Harley track separates the stands from the field by a good 12-15 feet.


 :Yuck:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 24, 2014, 04:22:00 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi175.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw158%2Fwabash_huggieville%2FDSCF0880-1.jpg&hash=80490060be99a0e9d4b2d5362898f97ae903ebff)


Also notice how the Harley track separates the stands from the field by a good 12-15 feet.


 :Yuck:

my god, look at THE Setting.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Genius move to provide the camera trucks room for nationally televised games
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 24, 2014, 04:26:18 PM
yeah. that side they have with the current pressbox is serviceable. you absolutely keep that and all the stands down to the goal line on that side, i think. the rest through? i'd demo and then move the west side closer to the east and tighten up the bowl. the whole lowering the field thing sounds stupid though or maybe i just don't get it.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 04:27:26 PM
Here is an example of what I was talking about RD

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsd7MQT.png&hash=10963d6afb2378c31e578b567a5a032406c86572)

They should tear everything up, shove the field up against the north(?) bleachers and redo the south/hill

That press box is the worst in America.  It's gotta go.

I feel so very badly for any D-Day vets that must face that concrete monolith.   I hope no broadcaster sticks a mic boom out an open window. 

I mean really, a cruise ship or a replica of one of Hitler's death fortresses?


This was K-State's pressbox up until 2013:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi175.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw158%2Fwabash_huggieville%2FDSCF0880-1.jpg&hash=80490060be99a0e9d4b2d5362898f97ae903ebff)


Also notice how the Harley track separates the stands from the field by a good 12-15 feet.


 :Yuck:

Look at K-State, a good 7 or 8 yards of soft AstroTurf Gameday Grass 360 (that's an old pic Beems) on the sidelines, and now the endzones have turf all the way to the wall.   ku fans are pretty dangerous people, wanting to put their own sight lines in better position at the detriment of player safety.   They probably really love the set up at Okie State which is like instant sideline death from the 20's on in.   Sad

Then there's ku, hello long jump runway!!   Hello sand pit!!






Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 04:27:37 PM
It only took until 2013 for the in-state "football school" to build a pressbox bigger than KU's:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_wide_story%2F9519724.jpeg&hash=18855d4d0305cb3091a6ca9f7c31b8fb9f6761f7)


I'm sure it's convenient for the emergency vehicle to have its own paved highway, but it looks terrible to the objective viewer.  Maybe they could dig a deeper hole and fill it in with more seats? 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 04:30:37 PM
It only took until 2013 for the in-state "football school" to build a pressbox bigger than KU's:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_wide_story%2F9519724.jpeg&hash=18855d4d0305cb3091a6ca9f7c31b8fb9f6761f7)


I'm sure it's convenient for the emergency vehicle to have its own paved highway, but it looks terrible to the objective viewer.  Maybe they could dig a deeper hole and fill it in with more seats?

ku was 5 years behind K-State on building suites, and now approaching 20 years behind on Club Level seating.   K-State has twice as many suites, 3x's as many club levels and twice as many stadium clubs.   

Gridiron Club:  Coming Fall of 2010
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 24, 2014, 04:33:52 PM
Also notice how the Harley track separates the stands from the field by a good 12-15 feet.

Couple things here:
1. Harleys are awesome.
2. Harleys evidently have a tighter turning radius than collegiate sprinters, because our endzones don't require a massive radius putting the end zone seats about 1/4 mile away from the field just to accommodate a track.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Gooch on February 24, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
It only took until 2013 for the in-state "football school" to build a pressbox bigger than KU's:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_wide_story%2F9519724.jpeg&hash=18855d4d0305cb3091a6ca9f7c31b8fb9f6761f7)


I'm sure it's convenient for the emergency vehicle to have its own paved highway, but it looks terrible to the objective viewer.  Maybe they could dig a deeper hole and fill it in with more seats?

ku was 5 years behind K-State on building suites, and now approaching 20 years behind on Club Level seating.   K-State has twice as many suites, 3x's as many club levels and twice as many stadium clubs.   

Gridiron Club:  Coming Fall of 2010
Dax with yet another roundhouse straight to Beems fat face.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
It only took until 2013 for the in-state "football school" to build a pressbox bigger than KU's:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-footbl%2Fauto_wide_story%2F9519724.jpeg&hash=18855d4d0305cb3091a6ca9f7c31b8fb9f6761f7)


I'm sure it's convenient for the emergency vehicle to have its own paved highway, but it looks terrible to the objective viewer.  Maybe they could dig a deeper hole and fill it in with more seats?

"The Setting" is just beautiful.  I never get tired of looking at it
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 24, 2014, 04:40:04 PM
It really concerns about how obsessed ku fans are in regards to the distance of our stands to the field on our sidelines.    They constantly reference how they want there's to be closer, it's like they're going to go from DeathTrack1946 to something you might see in a futuristic movie where gladiators die on the field of play for viewer/spectator pleasure.   Sad and scary. 

Also in our endzones, I really wish there was a little more room, I mean, not like having a full fledged high jump area/8 lane running track kind of room, but more room. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 24, 2014, 04:41:38 PM
It really concerns about how obsessed ku fans are in regards to the distance of our stands to the field on our sidelines.    They constantly reference how they want there's to be closer, it's like they're going to go from DeathTrack1946 to something you might see in a futuristic movie where gladiators die on the field of play for viewer/spectator pleasure.   Sad and scary. 

Also in our endzones, I really wish there was a little more room, I mean, not like having a full fledged high jump area/8 lane running track kind of room, but more room.

I kinda like it tight like Nebraska's, but that's just personal preference. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 24, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
It really concerns about how obsessed ku fans are in regards to the distance of our stands to the field on our sidelines.    They constantly reference how they want there's to be closer, it's like they're going to go from DeathTrack1946 to something you might see in a futuristic movie where gladiators die on the field of play for viewer/spectator pleasure.   Sad and scary. 

Also in our endzones, I really wish there was a little more room, I mean, not like having a full fledged high jump area/8 lane running track kind of room, but more room.

I kinda like it tight like Nebraska's, but that's just personal preference.

I think if we do our "field exterior improvements" and with the limestone wall right, it will be the perfect distance from the field for when our next tiny little baby lockett drags his toes in the back of the end zone and goes flying out the back, but still doesn't go head first into a wall of any kind. A little room for safety, but still lookin classy as eff.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: _33 on February 24, 2014, 04:56:20 PM
BMW, listen to me.  Obsessing about how your college sports team is perceived nationally is a really, really stupid thing to obsess about.  Who cares what other people think about them?  You like them, you think they're great, and better than KSU.  You have fun watching them play and following the team and going to games. You seem to have a lot going for you; good job, healthy, sexed probably over one hundred babes by now.  Stop letting perceived slights of KU from various anonymous internet posters stress you out.  Just decide to stop.

Also, except for the track and the exterior I think KU's football stadium is fine.  Oh and those temporary end zone seats.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 24, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
That's good advice, _33.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: _33 on February 24, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
That's good advice, _33.

It goes for you too Wacky.  You have similar tendencies.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: AbeFroman on February 24, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
Beems argument about our pressbox is valid, if it was done in 2010.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
Guys comparing ku and kstate isn't going to help get ku off the big 12 mat in stadium upgrades. I'm not sure why pictures of our castle are being posted, it has nothing to do with the ku funding and track issues.

Now back to the issues at hand,oregonhawk are you guys giving the facade a face lift? Let's be honest the thing is an eye sore
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: DQ12 on February 24, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
KU's run down stadium is kind of endearing.  Like Wrigley.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 24, 2014, 05:24:27 PM
KU's run down stadium is kind of endearing.  Like Wrigley.

more like old riverfront
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 05:27:42 PM
KU's run down stadium is kind of endearing.  Like Wrigley.
the curse of the pig?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trim on February 24, 2014, 05:31:24 PM
Why didn't they keep the current stadium as the track place and build a football stadium where the track thing is being built (has been built?)?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 05:33:23 PM
Why didn't they keep the current stadium as the track place and build a football stadium where the track thing is being built (has been built?)?
well money obviously, and who would want to drive to the middle of the country to watch a d1 football game?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: AbeFroman on February 24, 2014, 05:33:53 PM
Why didn't they keep the current stadium as the track place and build a football stadium where the track thing is being built (has been built?)?

Because they would have to build a hill for all the poors to watch for free.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 06:06:19 PM
BMW, listen to me.  Obsessing about how your college sports team is perceived nationally is a really, really stupid thing to obsess about.  Who cares what other people think about them?  You like them, you think they're great, and better than KSU.  You have fun watching them play and following the team and going to games. You seem to have a lot going for you; good job, healthy, sexed probably over one hundred babes by now.  Stop letting perceived slights of KU from various anonymous internet posters stress you out.  Just decide to stop.

Also, except for the track and the exterior I think KU's football stadium is fine.  Oh and those temporary end zone seats.


Good advice, _33. 


KU's run down stadium is kind of endearing.  Like Wrigley.


Thanks, dlew.  I agree. 


/meltdown   
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 24, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
I posted stuff I was actually pretty serious about.  Can you find what I posted and at least give me some feedback bro?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 24, 2014, 06:57:51 PM
I posted stuff I was actually pretty serious about.  Can you find what I posted and at least give me some feedback bro?
me too! I enjoy these discussions and try not to flame/troll

Also dead serious: congrats beems, hope it goes well and best of luck
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 24, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
yeah. that side they have with the current pressbox is serviceable. you absolutely keep that and all the stands down to the goal line on that side, i think. the rest through? i'd demo and then move the west side closer to the east and tighten up the bowl. the whole lowering the field thing sounds stupid though or maybe i just don't get it.

Unfortunately the concourses and seat access beneath the east side are an unworkable abortion.  It would be the most economical to build a new stadium
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Institutional Control on February 24, 2014, 07:04:15 PM
So, what triggered Beems to go on tilt? Trouble at home? Erectile dysfunction? A bad case of gout? An itch in the middle of his back that he can't reach?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
I think taking some elements of the TCU build would be the dream scenario and could be done for anywhere from $100-$200 million depending upon what KU is willing to sacrifice.

Phase 1:  Trash the East end and build something like the KSU East end and the TCU (west?) end with a better facade.  If they are really worried about holding down the cost, they could maybe keep the lower level, build up a facade and boxes behind it.  The goal is not to go with a full double deck.  Est. Price tag- $40-80MM depending upon the removal of the lower level.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthornton.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproject_content_images%2F8801%2Famon_2_main.jpg&hash=bb2b1a79a245fac0ce937e2c2c98f7da630df189)

Basically what is pictured above, but without the highest part of the seating scrapped.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stadium.tcu.edu%2Fimages%2Fdutchmeyer.jpg&hash=1f28d1a6225a24508ff950ca022d76fbb82af4a0)

Phase 2:  This is where the TCU thing comes in to play.  Call this thing the HAWK'S NEST.  You build suites all along the North End using the Oread stone theme.  Square out the horseshoe and build 2-3 party decks that have seating on the stadium side and large out door party decks on the back.  "The Hill" stays open and you get a baller elite only building right there facing the tailgating mecca of the sidestreets.  Don't mess with trying to link it the football facility, they are separate facilities and you just keep the current football only stuff where it is and focus on fan experience.  Trying to re-locate all of the student-athlete stuff is going to kill your budget, you just spent cash on the football only and the all-athlete thing.  Save your money and do this thing right.

Est Price Tag: $70-90MM

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F12938664.jpg&hash=469226c56ff84aaa80ea46778b74b65cb20d44a6)

Basically this ends up being the view from the hill.  Mas o menos.

Phase 3:  West Side.  Here is where the mas o menos comes in to play.  Do you want to complete the entire rebuild?  By this time the momentum of the baller NEZ suites might have helped roll into a complete demo.  But that is a LOT of stuff to move.  If it were me, I would suck it up and muddle through with the weird West side, build the band a little platform or something to put them right on top of the visitors or make that the KU end and figure out something else to do with the extra space and have the visitors feeling claustrophobic against the tight sideline.

Est Price tag: $0-$90MM

Conclusion:

Phase 1 & 2 Est cost- $100-180MM

Personally I would rather have the baller NEZ that connects to all the tailgate areas and make it just an enormous party with places for young alums and high rollers both and throw up some facade bandaids on the rest to keep the project on budget.  If it is all about the hill, make it all about the hill.  Build the NEZ in to one of the best suite/party palaces in the country with the setting behind it.  Muddle through the E/W stuff until you can raise the $150-250MM more it would take to do it right.


Phase 1 - Agreed.  The horrendous, future-giants-playing-connect-four east side has got to go.  This and removing the track will be the first priority.  I'd imagine that they will use a similar approach to what Washington did with their stadium.  KU may even have to play a season at Arrowhead in order to accomplish this. 

Price tag - $85 million

Phase 2 - Here's a picture of the stadium, looking at the south side (the hill):

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjaehak.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F02%2Fmemorial-stadium.jpg&hash=4f982768930dc14a5a89f805d408406f1298367a)

The rumor is that KU will look to build a "party porch" on the south side.  I'd imagine they'll put in some type of luxury seating there as well, with a tunnel system connecting the football complex and the hill.  This might be feasible within an off-season, and I don't see it costing that much if they keep the seating minimal. 

Price tag - $15-25 million

Phase 3 - Unless they tear down the entire stadium, I'm not sure they will do much to the West side.  There's so many other needs right now that this phase is pretty far down the road (probably mid 2020's at the earliest).  They may just leave the current pressbox alone and build an additional structure onto the North end bowl, and potentially tear down some housing and redevelop the entire area. 

edit - I just realized that my last sentence was basically what you proposed for the "NEZ" in your phase 2.  I really like that idea and hope it's something that Zenger is potentially looking to do.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 24, 2014, 07:08:49 PM
Beems argument about our pressbox is valid, if it was done in 2010.

And if we didn't have dozens of suites on the other side of the stadium
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 24, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
The costs of doing the South end zone would be dramatically lower than the North, but I'm not sure how much will there is to build up the hill.  I think having something in the North facing the hill would be much better, although more expensive.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cire on February 24, 2014, 08:59:27 PM
What's with the flea market tents?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 24, 2014, 09:04:04 PM
Is there anything more hickish and small timely than calling a hill, "the hill". 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 24, 2014, 09:04:43 PM
calling a hill a mountain?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 24, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
calling a hill a mountain?

Well played
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 24, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Why didn't they keep the current stadium as the track place and build a football stadium where the track thing is being built (has been built?)?

Because they would have to build a hill for all the poors to watch for free.

 :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 24, 2014, 09:25:30 PM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 24, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
What's with the flea market tents?

try the exotic tastes of grilled rat and cricket
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 24, 2014, 10:06:56 PM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

Making news
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kim carnes on February 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

Making news

:lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Frankenklein on February 24, 2014, 10:24:01 PM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.
fwiw small timey hills like "The Hill" were not used as waypoints by travelers in the old pioneer days.I also think the avoided Lawrence in general because it was on fire or something...iirc
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on February 24, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
I can't believe you guys are still all butthurt about Chuck Robinson.   :ROFL:  It's like, it's been almost a century and a half, ya know?  Sesquicentennial butthurt much?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on February 24, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
anyone who has been on i-70 knows there is a bigger hill just like a mile away from lawrence on the way to kansas city.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: OregonSmock on February 24, 2014, 11:30:23 PM
K-State should relocate its stadium to a campus with a hill and a nice view.  Is the cruise ship portable?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Kat Kid on February 25, 2014, 01:18:18 AM
K-State should relocate its stadium to a campus with a hill and a nice view.  Is the cruise ship portable?

It is sea worthy, but no navigable rivers.  #tenthousandspoons
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 25, 2014, 07:03:44 AM
K-State should relocate its stadium to a campus with a hill and a nice view.  Is the cruise ship portable?

It is sea worthy, but no navigable rivers.  #tenthousandspoons

#goodadvicethatyoujustcanttake
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: SdK on February 25, 2014, 07:19:20 AM
K-State should relocate its stadium to a campus with a hill and a nice view.  Is the cruise ship portable?

It is sea worthy, but no navigable rivers.  #tenthousandspoons

#goodadvicethatyoujustcanttake

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-baskbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F5589074.jpeg&hash=2b83a51daa8a58cf8a1dbf39ae33d289d1e2370a)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 25, 2014, 09:00:37 AM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

It appears the idiots too stupid to follow a river just walked to the hill and said "welp this here looks good'nuff fer me!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 25, 2014, 09:06:39 AM
I think taking some elements of the TCU build would be the dream scenario and could be done for anywhere from $100-$200 million depending upon what KU is willing to sacrifice.

Phase 1:  Trash the East end and build something like the KSU East end and the TCU (west?) end with a better facade.  If they are really worried about holding down the cost, they could maybe keep the lower level, build up a facade and boxes behind it.  The goal is not to go with a full double deck.  Est. Price tag- $40-80MM depending upon the removal of the lower level.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthornton.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fproject_content_images%2F8801%2Famon_2_main.jpg&hash=bb2b1a79a245fac0ce937e2c2c98f7da630df189)

Basically what is pictured above, but without the highest part of the seating scrapped.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stadium.tcu.edu%2Fimages%2Fdutchmeyer.jpg&hash=1f28d1a6225a24508ff950ca022d76fbb82af4a0)

Phase 2:  This is where the TCU thing comes in to play.  Call this thing the HAWK'S NEST.  You build suites all along the North End using the Oread stone theme.  Square out the horseshoe and build 2-3 party decks that have seating on the stadium side and large out door party decks on the back.  "The Hill" stays open and you get a baller elite only building right there facing the tailgating mecca of the sidestreets.  Don't mess with trying to link it the football facility, they are separate facilities and you just keep the current football only stuff where it is and focus on fan experience.  Trying to re-locate all of the student-athlete stuff is going to kill your budget, you just spent cash on the football only and the all-athlete thing.  Save your money and do this thing right.

Est Price Tag: $70-90MM

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F12938664.jpg&hash=469226c56ff84aaa80ea46778b74b65cb20d44a6)

Basically this ends up being the view from the hill.  Mas o menos.

Phase 3:  West Side.  Here is where the mas o menos comes in to play.  Do you want to complete the entire rebuild?  By this time the momentum of the baller NEZ suites might have helped roll into a complete demo.  But that is a LOT of stuff to move.  If it were me, I would suck it up and muddle through with the weird West side, build the band a little platform or something to put them right on top of the visitors or make that the KU end and figure out something else to do with the extra space and have the visitors feeling claustrophobic against the tight sideline.

Est Price tag: $0-$90MM

Conclusion:

Phase 1 & 2 Est cost- $100-180MM

Personally I would rather have the baller NEZ that connects to all the tailgate areas and make it just an enormous party with places for young alums and high rollers both and throw up some facade bandaids on the rest to keep the project on budget.  If it is all about the hill, make it all about the hill.  Build the NEZ in to one of the best suite/party palaces in the country with the setting behind it.  Muddle through the E/W stuff until you can raise the $150-250MM more it would take to do it right.


Phase 1 - Agreed.  The horrendous, future-giants-playing-connect-four east side has got to go.  This and removing the track will be the first priority.  I'd imagine that they will use a similar approach to what Washington did with their stadium.  KU may even have to play a season at Arrowhead in order to accomplish this. 

Price tag - $85 million

Phase 2 - Here's a picture of the stadium, looking at the south side (the hill):

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjaehak.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F02%2Fmemorial-stadium.jpg&hash=4f982768930dc14a5a89f805d408406f1298367a)

The rumor is that KU will look to build a "party porch" on the south side.  I'd imagine they'll put in some type of luxury seating there as well, with a tunnel system connecting the football complex and the hill.  This might be feasible within an off-season, and I don't see it costing that much if they keep the seating minimal. 

Price tag - $15-25 million

Phase 3 - Unless they tear down the entire stadium, I'm not sure they will do much to the West side.  There's so many other needs right now that this phase is pretty far down the road (probably mid 2020's at the earliest).  They may just leave the current pressbox alone and build an additional structure onto the North end bowl, and potentially tear down some housing and redevelop the entire area. 

edit - I just realized that my last sentence was basically what you proposed for the "NEZ" in your phase 2.  I really like that idea and hope it's something that Zenger is potentially looking to do.

Beems... serious question.  Maybe it's in this thread somewhere and I missed it... but where is KU's release on these phases, plans, and budgets? Is there a link? 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cire on February 25, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

It appears the idiots too stupid to follow a river just walked to the hill and said "welp this here looks good'nuff fer me!

Yeah, that was a really stupid thing to say spracne.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 25, 2014, 09:36:31 AM
I think what's being lost in all of this, is that once again, K-State football is the ocean tide to ku's football boat.

Always happy to see Big Bro assist TSC lil' bro in any way we can.




Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Deez Nutz on February 25, 2014, 09:38:22 AM
Everybody Stand Up and Cheer!  The Big 12's Fightin Jayhawks are Here!!  Blue Wings Rising!!!

W   10/10/2009   41   Iowa St.   36    :tsc:
L   10/17/2009   30   Colorado   34   
L   10/24/2009   13   Oklahoma   35   
L   10/31/2009   21   Texas Tech   42   
L   11/7/2009   10   Kansas St.   17   
L   11/14/2009   17   Nebraska   31   
L   11/21/2009   20   Texas   51   
L   11/28/2009   39   Missouri   41   
L   10/2/2010   7   Baylor (TX)   55   
L   10/14/2010   7   Kansas St.   59   
L   10/23/2010   10   Texas A&M   45   
L   10/30/2010   16   Iowa St.   28   
W   11/6/2010   52   Colorado   45    :tsc:
L   11/13/2010   3   Nebraska   20   
L   11/20/2010   14   Oklahoma St.   48   
L   11/27/2010   7   Missouri   35   
L   10/8/2011   28   Oklahoma St.   70   
L   10/15/2011   17   Oklahoma   47   
L   10/22/2011   21   Kansas St.   59   
L   10/29/2011   0   Texas   43   
L   11/5/2011   10   Iowa St.   13   
L   11/12/2011   30   Baylor (TX)   31   
L   11/19/2011   7   Texas A&M   61   
L   11/26/2011   10   Missouri   24   
L   10/6/2012   16   Kansas St.   56   
L   10/13/2012   14   Oklahoma St.   20   
L   10/20/2012   7   Oklahoma   52   
L   10/27/2012   17   Texas   21   
L   11/3/2012   14   Baylor (TX)   41   
L   11/10/2012   34   Texas Tech   41   
L   11/17/2012   23   Iowa St.   51   
L   12/1/2012   10   West Virginia   59   
L   10/5/2013   16   Texas Tech   54   
L   10/12/2013   17   Texas Christian   27   
L   10/19/2013   19   Oklahoma   34   
L   10/26/2013   14   Baylor (TX)   59   
L   11/2/2013   13   Texas   35   
L   11/9/2013   6   Oklahoma St.   42   
W   11/16/2013   31   West Virginia   19    :tsc:
L   11/23/2013   0   Iowa St.   34   
L   11/30/2013   10   Kansas St.   31

Hey wait, I thought KU lost to TCU in 2012 and Texas Tech in 2011.  Squawk outed.   :Wha:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 25, 2014, 10:27:10 AM
But the Spring Game should count as a conference win.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 25, 2014, 10:56:32 AM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

It appears the idiots too stupid to follow a river just walked to the hill and said "welp this here looks good'nuff fer me!

Yeah, that was a really stupid thing to say spracne.

Wow, never hear about "the Hill" before.  Between that, the origins of the Rock Chalk chant, and the origins of the Mizzou rivalry, is there one story at KU that isn't completely based on bullshit?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: SPEmaw on February 25, 2014, 11:01:20 AM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

It appears the idiots too stupid to follow a river just walked to the hill and said "welp this here looks good'nuff fer me!

Yeah, that was a really stupid thing to say spracne.

Wow, never hear about "the Hill" before.  Between that, the origins of the Rock Chalk chant, and the origins of the Mizzou rivalry, is there one story at KU that isn't completely based on bullshit?

Bill Self's infidelity?  :dunno:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: scottwildcat on February 25, 2014, 11:22:17 AM

track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into.

yeah i mean texas state did it which if KU wants to elevate their football program's status to their level then by all means it'll be good for everyone but if they can't afford it then maybe gE should set up a collection fund ya know?

They should just copy what Texas State is doing, would be a rough ridin' home run for them.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thunderjags.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fbobcats_Old.jpg&hash=15af9c3d89d251cac55b65da6cda6cad7e67c5d1)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin.pbworld.com%2Fimages%2F2012_09%2Fimg_bobcat_stadium1.jpg&hash=3e6178d67be5e9d20f23868bdd2bb3dca064ae2f)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmmercury.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2FTxState_Bobcat_Stadium_Facilities_Map.jpg&hash=a5dcf33545f574efa4ed5fabb1952f3bf40bd93a)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ua.txstate.edu%2Ffromthehill%2Fseptember2010%2Fimages%2FTxSt-BobcatStadium-Masterplan.jpg&hash=4af7fef3a3f4c3805f36f22e5952fd6eee954ce7)

Texas State doing big things :love:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on February 25, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

It appears the idiots too stupid to follow a river just walked to the hill and said "welp this here looks good'nuff fer me!

Yeah, that was a really stupid thing to say spracne.

Wow, never hear about "the Hill" before.  Between that, the origins of the Rock Chalk chant, and the origins of the Mizzou rivalry, is there one story at KU that isn't completely based on bullshit?

See also: "The game began there" thread...

On this subject, something has bothered me for a while.  The KU seal says "Established 1865."  But KU opened in 1866, and started teaching college level courses in 1869.  KU received its charter to open in 1864, but literally nothing significant happened in 1865.  Why is 1865 on the seal?  It should say 1866.  (Yes, these types of things actually bother me. #historyproblems)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 0.42 on February 25, 2014, 11:32:31 AM
Texas State doing big things :love:

beems (friend), I'm afraid Texas State has already selected EMAW as their sister school, but maybe we can set up some sort of football aid program? You know, kind of like what the UN does in Haiti. In exchange for imparting Texas State's knowledge in building up football stadiums, you schedule UTSA and beat them by 50 every year. Go 'Hawks! :tsc:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 25, 2014, 11:33:17 AM

track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into.

yeah i mean texas state did it which if KU wants to elevate their football program's status to their level then by all means it'll be good for everyone but if they can't afford it then maybe gE should set up a collection fund ya know?

They should just copy what Texas State is doing, would be a rough ridin' home run for them.

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Texas State doing big things :love:

That would block the hill tho  :frown:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: CatMission on February 25, 2014, 05:09:02 PM


track removal is expensive stuff.  i always assumed ku fans were kidding about taking out the track.  i don't think they realize what they've gotten themselves into.

yeah i mean texas state did it which if KU wants to elevate their football program's status to their level then by all means it'll be good for everyone but if they can't afford it then maybe gE should set up a collection fund ya know?

They should just copy what Texas State is doing, would be a rough ridin' home run for them.

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Texas State doing big things :love:

That would block the hill tho  :frown:
They will have more than a billion dollars. Surely you can raise a hill a little bit with that kind of money. (Admittedly, I am not an engineer)


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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Frankenklein on February 25, 2014, 05:14:23 PM
"The Hill" was a waypoint for travelers in the olden pioneer days - hence, the "the".  Deal with it, you morose MF'er.

It appears the idiots too stupid to follow a river just walked to the hill and said "welp this here looks good'nuff fer me!

Yeah, that was a really stupid thing to say spracne.

Wow, never hear about "the Hill" before.  Between that, the origins of the Rock Chalk chant, and the origins of the Mizzou rivalry, is there one story at KU that isn't completely based on bullshit?
I need to talk to some of my older relatives about this for the deets but I'm pretty sure my great great great Grandpa invented the game of basketball at his farm just outside of Manhattan
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 25, 2014, 08:38:46 PM
The game of basketball was invented 15 minutes after the trash can, when some guy decided it was too much effort walk his trash to the receptacle and threw it instead.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MouseRat on February 25, 2014, 11:13:16 PM
Enough with the big brother/little brother talk already!  You guys can't even get it right.  Instead you let some beak toting hipster tell you how it is.  Come on EMAW nation!  Have we no spine?  Or do we just need a quick history refresher?  Kansas State Agricultural College est. 1863 (or 1857 if you count Bluemont College as it's predecessor), Kansas University 1865.  That would make K-State the big bro and KU the little bro, regardless of undergrad enrollment and endowment.  My case?  I am 5'11" 170 lbs.  My younger brother is 6'5" 240 lbs.  He is and will always be my little bro.  Get it?..... 

Memorial Stadium sucks and there is nothing KU can do to salvage that program.  EMAW!

 :lynchmob:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on February 25, 2014, 11:42:58 PM
The game of basketball was invented 15 minutes after the trash can, when some guy decided it was too much effort walk his trash to the receptacle and threw it instead.

I had not heard this before. No trash cans in Dr. Naismith's time?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 26, 2014, 07:51:30 AM
Enough with the big brother/little brother talk already!  You guys can't even get it right.  Instead you let some beak toting hipster tell you how it is.  Come on EMAW nation!  Have we no spine?  Or do we just need a quick history refresher?  Kansas State Agricultural College est. 1863 (or 1857 if you count Bluemont College as it's predecessor), Kansas University 1865.  That would make K-State the big bro and KU the little bro, regardless of undergrad enrollment and endowment.  My case?  I am 5'11" 170 lbs.  My younger brother is 6'5" 240 lbs.  He is and will always be my little bro.  Get it?..... 

Memorial Stadium sucks and there is nothing KU can do to salvage that program.  EMAW!

 :lynchmob:


kstatefans post
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: p1k3 on February 26, 2014, 07:57:20 AM
Enough with the big brother/little brother talk already!  You guys can't even get it right.  Instead you let some beak toting hipster tell you how it is.  Come on EMAW nation!  Have we no spine?  Or do we just need a quick history refresher?  Kansas State Agricultural College est. 1863 (or 1857 if you count Bluemont College as it's predecessor), Kansas University 1865.  That would make K-State the big bro and KU the little bro, regardless of undergrad enrollment and endowment.  My case?  I am 5'11" 170 lbs.  My younger brother is 6'5" 240 lbs.  He is and will always be my little bro.  Get it?..... 

Memorial Stadium sucks and there is nothing KU can do to salvage that program.  EMAW!

 :lynchmob:


kstatefans post

yeah my eyes hurt from reading that
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 26, 2014, 10:05:44 AM
Mouserat is not afraid to speak his mind, with zeal
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MouseRat on February 26, 2014, 10:38:24 AM
Mouserat is not afraid to speak his mind, with zeal

I know I'm new, but I'm no n00b.  I apologize for my John Brown-esque outburst but some of you are soft and numb to condescending remarks.  I refuse to be patronized by Kansas trolls.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: HerrSonntag on February 26, 2014, 02:15:00 PM
Mouserat is not afraid to speak his mind, with zeal

I know I'm new, but I'm no n00b.  I apologize for my John Brown-esque outburst but some of you are soft and numb to condescending remarks.  I refuse to be patronized by Kansas trolls.
With a rifle in one hand, snarky KU leaflet in the other.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on February 26, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
The game of basketball was invented 15 minutes after the trash can, when some guy decided it was too much effort walk his trash to the receptacle and threw it instead.

 :D
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Brock Landers on February 26, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
The game of basketball was invented 15 minutes after the trash can, when some guy decided it was too much effort walk his trash to the receptacle and threw it instead.

 :D


This makes way more sense than that bullshit peach basket story.  Yet another lie perpetuated in the history of a hobby sport.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: _33 on February 26, 2014, 03:27:13 PM
Mouserat is not afraid to speak his mind, with zeal

I know I'm new, but I'm no n00b.  I apologize for my John Brown-esque outburst but some of you are soft and numb to condescending remarks.  I refuse to be patronized by Kansas trolls.

Hey, shut up stupid.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ljmhawk2 on February 26, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
Why didn't they keep the current stadium as the track place and build a football stadium where the track thing is being built (has been built?)?
well money obviously, and who would want to drive to the middle of the country to watch a d1 football game?

ask Kstate fans.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Mr Bread on February 26, 2014, 04:16:32 PM
Enough with the big brother/little brother talk already!  You guys can't even get it right.  Instead you let some beak toting hipster tell you how it is.  Come on EMAW nation!  Have we no spine?  Or do we just need a quick history refresher?  Kansas State Agricultural College est. 1863 (or 1857 if you count Bluemont College as it's predecessor), Kansas University 1865.  That would make K-State the big bro and KU the little bro, regardless of undergrad enrollment and endowment.  My case?  I am 5'11" 170 lbs.  My younger brother is 6'5" 240 lbs.  He is and will always be my little bro.  Get it?..... 

Memorial Stadium sucks and there is nothing KU can do to salvage that program.  EMAW!

 :lynchmob:

You have different dads. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on February 26, 2014, 09:26:10 PM
Why didn't they keep the current stadium as the track place and build a football stadium where the track thing is being built (has been built?)?
well money obviously, and who would want to drive to the middle of the country to watch a d1 football game?

ask Kstate fans.
for money? Sure! Plenty to go around
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MouseRat on February 26, 2014, 11:52:02 PM
Enough with the big brother/little brother talk already!  You guys can't even get it right.  Instead you let some beak toting hipster tell you how it is.  Come on EMAW nation!  Have we no spine?  Or do we just need a quick history refresher?  Kansas State Agricultural College est. 1863 (or 1857 if you count Bluemont College as it's predecessor), Kansas University 1865.  That would make K-State the big bro and KU the little bro, regardless of undergrad enrollment and endowment.  My case?  I am 5'11" 170 lbs.  My younger brother is 6'5" 240 lbs.  He is and will always be my little bro.  Get it?..... 

Memorial Stadium sucks and there is nothing KU can do to salvage that program.  EMAW!

 :lynchmob:

You have different dads.

I'm #2 in a set of triplets.  Big sis came first.  Lil bro and I were 8 minutes apart.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 25, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
Can't wait to see their rendos now that bball season is over.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2014, 10:18:13 AM
Can't wait to see their rendos now that bball season is over.

They are going to release probably the day after we release Vanier 2.0 so it can be 20 times better and that kind of technical stuff. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 25, 2014, 10:29:49 AM
Can't wait to see their rendos now that bball season is over.

They are going to release probably the day after we release Vanier 2.0 so it can be 20 times better and that kind of technical stuff.
And it's going to crush me.  :frown:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: deputy dawg on March 25, 2014, 01:14:50 PM
Can't wait to see their rendos now that bball season is over.

They are going to release probably the day after we release Vanier 2.0 so it can be 20 times better and that kind of technical stuff.

Any update on the quality/quantity of clip art?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 25, 2014, 01:23:48 PM
Can't wait to see their rendos now that bball season is over.

They are going to release probably the day after we release Vanier 2.0 so it can be 20 times better and that kind of technical stuff.

Any update on the quality/quantity of clip art?

whatever is better than ours.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: SPEmaw on March 26, 2014, 10:33:03 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/26/4917085/lawrence-approves-rental-inspection.html#tnt_refhome (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/26/4917085/lawrence-approves-rental-inspection.html#tnt_refhome)

it's about time Low-rents got its act together and did something about the slum villages they have devouring their town's residential market. those kids have rights and definitely deserve to live in decent housing.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2014, 07:38:38 AM
K-State's improvements are lipstick on a pig, but our stadium is so awesome that people want to tear it all down and start over . . . phognet

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 27, 2014, 08:46:53 AM
K-State's improvements are lipstick on a pig, but our stadium is so awesome that people want to tear it all down and start over . . . phognet
OSU's stadium was a pig once upon a time. But yeah, we're just throwing our money away for nothing.

Our stadium may or may not be TBP Stadium level when all phases are complete, but it's going to look good.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2014, 09:30:18 AM
K-State's improvements are lipstick on a pig, but our stadium is so awesome that people want to tear it all down and start over . . . phognet

They are out of ammo.  Every time they say anything we announce another $50 million in improvements.  They are afraid of an athletic dept arms race they will lose.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2014, 09:32:25 AM
our stadium is in a hole, parking lots, and cruise ships. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trim on March 27, 2014, 09:38:46 AM
K-State's improvements are lipstick on a pig, but our stadium is so awesome that people want to tear it all down and start over . . . phognet

They are out of ammo.  Every time they say anything we announce another $50 million in improvements.  They are afraid of an athletic dept arms race they will lose.

http://pacmail.em.marketinghq.net/functions/message_view.html?mid=651632&mlid=3212&siteid=2008000085&uid=da989302e5&hq_e=el&hq_m=651632&hq_l=1&hq_v=da989302e5

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2014, 09:56:36 AM
I love them...
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ydarg2012 on March 27, 2014, 11:57:56 AM
K-State's improvements are lipstick on a pig, but our stadium is so awesome that people want to tear it all down and start over . . . phognet

They are out of ammo.  Every time they say anything we announce another $50 million in improvements.  They are afraid of an athletic dept arms race they will lose.

http://pacmail.em.marketinghq.net/functions/message_view.html?mid=651632&mlid=3212&siteid=2008000085&uid=da989302e5&hq_e=el&hq_m=651632&hq_l=1&hq_v=da989302e5

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Help Raise Banners.

Luncheons!!!  :excited:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 27, 2014, 12:00:38 PM
Someone has a ripe opportunity to step in and own Jayhox right now on the phog. I'm currently banned from there until next month, lol.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12772883&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12772883&p=2)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Gooch on March 27, 2014, 12:03:34 PM
1/5 the endowment!!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on March 27, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
1/5 the endowment!!

Walk the plank, little guy...
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2014, 12:27:34 PM
Someone has a ripe opportunity to step in and own Jayhox right now on the phog. I'm currently banned from there until next month, lol.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12772883&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12772883&p=2)
I enjoyed the Colin Klein vegetable talk
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: EMAWmeister on March 27, 2014, 12:37:04 PM
I still haven't found what Beems is trying to show off with his impressive "satellite imagery".
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 27, 2014, 12:40:11 PM
I still haven't found what Beems is trying to show off with his impressive "satellite imagery".
Yeah, he's really not helping his case any.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2014, 12:46:15 PM
No one is going to confuse Hoax with someone who is smart.  K-State just updated its entire master plan.

Nearly $350 million dollars in new construction completed in the last 4 years.    Another $225 million about to commence in the next 12 months, another $150 million plus in the fundraising stage.    That doesn't include the nearly $1 billion that will be spent on NBAF. 

The Anderson Football Center is a newer, slightly larger version of Vanier.   Vanier 2.0 will dwarf the AFC.





Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trim on March 27, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
I still haven't found what Beems is trying to show off with his impressive "satellite imagery".
Yeah, he's really not helping his case any.

It's completely over my head.  Like, here's a really picturesque nature setting and I suppose they could just trace the football field lines in the sand, maybe hang a scoreboard off that palm tree and have fans sit up further on the beach and watch a game with the ocean in the background, and that would blow away really all of the traditional football stadiums.

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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
No one is going to confuse Hoax with someone who is smart.  K-State just updated its entire master plan.

Nearly $350 million dollars in new construction completed in the last 4 years.    Another $225 million about to commence in the next 12 months, another $150 million plus in the fundraising stage.    That doesn't include the nearly $1 billion that will be spent on NBAF. 

The Anderson Football Center is a newer, slightly larger version of Vanier.   Vanier 2.0 will dwarf the AFC.







you wouldn't understand as you're not a graduate of the nation's 60th (tie) ranked law school.  people care about that damn law school building.  it's important.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 27, 2014, 02:30:10 PM
Quote
The KU Endowment is an actual thing.  So it is capitalized.  Your smaller Endowment is also an actual thing, so it is also capitalized.  It can also be used in part to fund athletic facilities, but usually is not.  I did not say it would be, but Memorial is highlighted as a near term project on the master plan.

My point is that you focus all of your school's energy on raising funds to add to the only building on campus anyone in world would cares anything about.  If anyone proposed a campus-wide master plan at K-state like the one at KU, everyone would laugh.  So you will have a nice stadium soon and in the future.  We will have an even more amazing campus and a new stadium soon (relatively) and in the future.  K-State couldn't expand or improve its campus the way KU intends because K-State has about 1/5 the $$$.  If you funneled the football donations to your Endownment, it might move from 1/5 the size of KU's to 3/10 the size.

Take a lap.

This is gold.....absolute gold.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: #LIFE on March 27, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
Quote
The KU Endowment is an actual thing.  So it is capitalized.  Your smaller Endowment is also an actual thing, so it is also capitalized.  It can also be used in part to fund athletic facilities, but usually is not.  I did not say it would be, but Memorial is highlighted as a near term project on the master plan.

My point is that you focus all of your school's energy on raising funds to add to the only building on campus anyone in world would cares anything about.  If anyone proposed a campus-wide master plan at K-state like the one at KU, everyone would laugh.  So you will have a nice stadium soon and in the future.  We will have an even more amazing campus and a new stadium soon (relatively) and in the future.  K-State couldn't expand or improve its campus the way KU intends because K-State has about 1/5 the $$$.  If you funneled the football donations to your Endownment, it might move from 1/5 the size of KU's to 3/10 the size.

Take a lap.



 :D
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
Do we really need to upgrade campus facilities (duh I know we already are)?  We're already winning the student recruiting battle.  It's like everywhere I look ku is playing ketchup.  ( :D)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2014, 04:02:15 PM
The most laughable part is that Hoax thinks that ku is going to be allowed to borrow against it's full endowment, or that somehow that endowment could be capitalized.   If that happens, no one is likely to ever establish a permanent endowment at ku ever again.  Good luck going to the the estates/trusts/families/individuals who have established permanent endowments for specific purposes (some of whom are K-State alumni) at ku and explaining that capitalization.

The endowment funds are separate corporations operating under the umbrella of the university, if other entities within the university borrow money from the endowment, that means that ultimately the university, the KBOR, and the State of Kansas' debt burden increases right along with it.






Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 27, 2014, 04:03:40 PM
The most laughable part is that Hoax thinks that ku is going to be allowed to borrow against it's full endowment, or that somehow that endowment could be capitalized.   If that happens, no one is likely to ever establish a permanent endowment at ku ever again.  Good luck going to the the estates/trusts/families/individuals who have established permanent endowments for specific purposes (some of whom are K-State alumni) at ku and explaining that capitalization.
Half their board thinks they can use the endowment like a piggy bank.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: meow meow on March 27, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
pretty sure i have seen a campus wide master plan on this website within the last year, too lazy to look.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: PowercatPat on March 27, 2014, 04:20:57 PM
Copy and paste more posts from that thread for those of use who are banned. tia
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 27, 2014, 04:25:02 PM
Campus Master Plan Projects/K-State 2025


Expansion of Peters Recreation Complex-Completed $20 million

New and Renovated Jardine Apartments Nearly Completed $100 Million

Expansion of College of Veterinary Medicine

Two New Research Quadrangles

Two New Academic Buildings

New Parking Garage

Expansion of Ackert Hall

Expansion of Cardwell Hall

New Academic Quadrangle

Expansion of International Student Center

New Residence Halls and Renovated Derby Dining Center

New Kramer Dining Center and Residence Halls Approved by Regents in Process $76  Million

New Science Quadrangle  Phase One Geo-Sciences Building in Fund Raising Phase

College of Engineering Phase IV Construction to start summer 2014 $45 million

Seaton Hall Addition for College of Architecture, Planning and Design  In Fund Raising Phase $65 million

New Sciences Building

K-State Student Union Expansion  In Final Design Phase $25 Million

New College of Business Administration  Construction Starts Summer 2014 $55 Million

Renovation of East Memorial Stadium for Visitor Center in final fund raising phase $20 million

New Performing Arts Complex

Sports Complex Masterplan (Multi-Phase)  $176.5 million spent 2012 to 2015 

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: meow meow on March 27, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
CASE CLOSED!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Winters on March 27, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
Quote
The KU Endowment is an actual thing.  So it is capitalized.  Your smaller Endowment is also an actual thing, so it is also capitalized.  It can also be used in part to fund athletic facilities, but usually is not.  I did not say it would be, but Memorial is highlighted as a near term project on the master plan.

My point is that you focus all of your school's energy on raising funds to add to the only building on campus anyone in world would cares anything about.  If anyone proposed a campus-wide master plan at K-state like the one at KU, everyone would laugh.  So you will have a nice stadium soon and in the future.  We will have an even more amazing campus and a new stadium soon (relatively) and in the future.  K-State couldn't expand or improve its campus the way KU intends because K-State has about 1/5 the $$$.  If you funneled the football donations to your Endownment, it might move from 1/5 the size of KU's to 3/10 the size.

Take a lap.

This is gold.....absolute gold.
yes, great stuff  :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2014, 04:42:10 PM
They are so damn awesome.  I hope they never quit.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 27, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
Quote
Memorial needs a complete overhaul. I'm confident a massive project will be competed within the next 5 years making it far more attractive than KSU's facilities.
Confidence rising!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 27, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
Quote
Memorial needs a complete overhaul. I'm confident a massive project will be competed within the next 5 years making it far more attractive than KSU's facilities.
Confidence rising!
Damn. You beat me to it.  :D
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 27, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
The most laughable part is that Hoax thinks that ku is going to be allowed to borrow against it's full endowment, or that somehow that endowment could be capitalized.   If that happens, no one is likely to ever establish a permanent endowment at ku ever again.  Good luck going to the the estates/trusts/families/individuals who have established permanent endowments for specific purposes (some of whom are K-State alumni) at ku and explaining that capitalization.
Half their board thinks they can use the endowment like a piggy bank.

Aren't they realizing by now that it is obviously not?  I mean, look at Memorial.  And why not use the endowment for the Gridiron Club (Coming 2010)?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 27, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
i mean, by the time they're ready to rebuild Memorial in 10 years, we're gonna be ready to renovate the WSC.  think about that. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: GoodForAnother on March 27, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I still don't know who the eff that TrillaTrilla guy thinks he is but he's a disgrace to the mancat avatar
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on March 27, 2014, 06:42:03 PM
I still don't know who the eff that TrillaTrilla guy thinks he is but he's a disgrace to the mancat avatar

He's a decent sock.  He's actually someone who should be enjoyed whilst perusing there.  Also, nobody laughed at my inter-thread remark about small endowments  :shakesfist:.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 27, 2014, 07:02:05 PM
Campus Master Plan Projects/K-State 2025


What about the KSU Gardens?  Is this thing still happening?  I've always thought it would look very nice!   :raccoon:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ksre.ksu.edu%2Fksugardens%2Fdoc2876.ashx&hash=6f647e9b68cea62d4dda9478c1c9598286410dca)

http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/ksugardens/doc2876.ashx (http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/ksugardens/doc2876.ashx)
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Campus Master Plan Projects/K-State 2025


What about the KSU Gardens?  Is this thing still happening?  I've always thought it would look very nice!   :raccoon:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ksre.ksu.edu%2Fksugardens%2Fdoc2876.ashx&hash=6f647e9b68cea62d4dda9478c1c9598286410dca)

http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/ksugardens/doc2876.ashx (http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/ksugardens/doc2876.ashx)

that would look really nice. i say we get the nbafers to do it for us. use some of that billion dollar nbaf money.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2014, 07:42:42 PM
I still don't know who the eff that TrillaTrilla guy thinks he is but he's a disgrace to the mancat avatar

He's a decent sock.  He's actually someone who should be enjoyed whilst perusing there.  Also, nobody laughed at my inter-thread remark about small endowments  :shakesfist:.

he's pretty good, not sure if sock
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 28, 2014, 09:03:56 AM
Copy and paste more posts from that thread for those of use who are banned. tia

Here you go:

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All this report proves is that you have an ugly, redneck student body that wears anything purple and jean shorts.


Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: deputy dawg on March 28, 2014, 09:09:37 AM
Probably already luke'd, but anyway:
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/28/4921652/ku-chancellor-upholds-rejection.html

Students are tired of subsidizing losers, and try to get rid of the fees that they have to pay that goes straight to KU AD.  Grey-Little does a Solomon-like splitting of the baby down the middle.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ydarg2012 on March 28, 2014, 12:02:12 PM
Campus Master Plan Projects/K-State 2025


Can someone quantify this spending and eventual campus size ratio as relative to the student body? Then compare it to KU?  I think that stat would be most telling about the difference in excellence of beautiful Manhattan and that dirty floormat to KC.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2014, 12:43:30 PM
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Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ednksu on March 28, 2014, 12:59:38 PM
Has a university or student body ever complained about having too much tailgating space or places to park?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 28, 2014, 01:04:36 PM
The best tailgating locations in the NFL have a lot of asphalt.  I've never viewed parking space as a negative.   
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
The best tailgating locations in the NFL have a lot of asphalt.  I've never viewed parking space as a negative.   
When you're running out of talking points, you get desperate. Kinda like this pic of a dude farm humping a sheep. http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=12772883&p=3
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2014, 01:17:27 PM
I kind of enjoyed the tailgating experience at Auburn. If K-State would let people tailgate all over campus like that, I think I'd prefer an on-campus location without much parking. What we have is great, too, though.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 28, 2014, 01:25:42 PM
I kind of enjoyed the tailgating experience at Auburn. If K-State would let people tailgate all over campus like that, I think I'd prefer an on-campus location without much parking. What we have is great, too, though.

As someone who lives out of town, I enjoy being able to roll up to my parking spot every gameday.  I think it would be a giant pain in the ass to fight for parking on a side street every weekend and not have room to set up my tailgate.  Also, I love being able to go back out to my tailgate at halftime to throw down a couple more beers and throw more food in my belly.  I would not be able to do this if I parked on a side street 5 blocks away and make it back in by kickoff.  It's also really fun getting to know the people who park around you every weekend and knowing where others park every weekend as well.  If I lived in Manhattan and was walking distance from the stadium, I'm sure I would feel differently. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
I kind of enjoyed the tailgating experience at Auburn. If K-State would let people tailgate all over campus like that, I think I'd prefer an on-campus location without much parking. What we have is great, too, though.
Getting out of that Auburn traffic was a disaster after the game. It took an hour and a half to get back to the main strip. I'm sure the campus thing has something to do with it. I loved my experience there, but I couldn't put up with that every week.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: wiley on March 28, 2014, 01:35:26 PM
I kind of enjoyed the tailgating experience at Auburn. If K-State would let people tailgate all over campus like that, I think I'd prefer an on-campus location without much parking. What we have is great, too, though.
Getting out of that Auburn traffic was a disaster after the game. It took an hour and a half to get back to the main strip. I'm sure the campus thing has something to do with it. I loved my experience there, but I couldn't put up with that every week.

yes it was
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MadCat on March 28, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: Sayers
Manhattan in 10 years when everyone is taking college online.

I laughed at this.  KU is the least 'online' school of all the Regents universities.  Why put in the effort when Kansas City is right there?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 28, 2014, 01:39:51 PM
I kind of enjoyed the tailgating experience at Auburn. If K-State would let people tailgate all over campus like that, I think I'd prefer an on-campus location without much parking. What we have is great, too, though.
Getting out of that Auburn traffic was a disaster after the game. It took an hour and a half to get back to the main strip. I'm sure the campus thing has something to do with it. I loved my experience there, but I couldn't put up with that every week.

Same with OU who uses the same strategy. It was awful.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Pett on March 28, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
Is there some sort of fund we can donate $ to help lil bro get some sort of renovation going? TIA
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on March 28, 2014, 01:48:56 PM
Is there some sort of fund we can donate $ to help lil bro get some sort of renovation going? TIA

The Williams Fund?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 28, 2014, 01:49:24 PM
Is there some sort of fund we can donate $ to help lil bro get some sort of renovation going? TIA

Thats like giving money to a drug addict who is asking for it to buy some food.  You know the addict is going to buy more drugs.  In this case, KU will buy more basketball things.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: PowercatPat on March 28, 2014, 04:08:08 PM
The best tailgating locations in the NFL have a lot of asphalt.  I've never viewed parking space as a negative.   

Me neither. Ben clinging to that talking point is just beyond dumb.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ChiComCat on March 28, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
The best tailgating locations in the NFL have a lot of asphalt.  I've never viewed parking space as a negative.   

Me neither. Ben clinging to that talking point is just beyond dumb.

He's used to judging stadiums when they are empty.  Empty parking is not fun looking.  Huge tailgates are but he struggles to picture that at Memorial.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Demo158 on March 28, 2014, 04:59:34 PM
I kind of enjoyed the tailgating experience at Auburn. If K-State would let people tailgate all over campus like that, I think I'd prefer an on-campus location without much parking. What we have is great, too, though.
Stillwater does this as well. It's cool in the fact that you could drink beer in front of the business hall but it was a pain in the ass to find other groups seeing as they were spread all over the campus. I like our more condensed setting. "Hey, where are you?", you answer East lot, West lot, or Ag fields. Nice and simple.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2014, 05:04:31 PM
I couldn't imagine anything more depressing than a huge, nearly empty parking lot at Memorial right before a conference football game. Those hardy few true blue fans would be out there working their grills, sweat beading down their faces, dripping off their noses, sizzling when it hits the pavement. One man waves at another 40 yards across the lot. The other man comes over to say hello.

"Plenty of food on the grill, if you'd like a bite. We always try to cook enough to feed our friends in blue."

"Why thanks," he responds, as he cracks open a Bud Light, "but I reckon I've had enough. Do you like our chances?"

"Well, they never seem to be good lately, but we always have a chance. I just pray that I get to see the day this lot is full before I die."

"Amen to that. Amen to that."
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: cat99 on March 28, 2014, 10:28:08 PM
Still makes me laugh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOt0ngsis4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOt0ngsis4)

Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: KITNfury on March 28, 2014, 10:39:49 PM
Still makes me laugh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOt0ngsis4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOt0ngsis4)
What's funny to me is that I was totally jealous when it looked like they were gonna do that and now after the west side we did, I realize what a crap pile the gridiron club would have been.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Cire on March 28, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
Yeah would have been whatever les than half assed is
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bucket on March 28, 2014, 10:45:11 PM
Book of basketball tho!  :excited:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 28, 2014, 11:22:31 PM
Still makes me laugh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOt0ngsis4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOt0ngsis4)
What's funny to me is that I was totally jealous when it looked like they were gonna do that and now after the west side we did, I realize what a crap pile the gridiron club would have been.

More clip art on buildings...a coat check room as a top-of-the-line ammenity...wifi hot spot.... :ROFL:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: EMAWzified on March 29, 2014, 12:35:15 AM
That reallhy would have been lipstick on a pig.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on March 29, 2014, 02:41:18 AM
KU stadium sucks. There, I said it. Now we can all stop tiptoeing around the truth
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Demo158 on March 29, 2014, 06:49:41 AM
The squawks stadium is a rough ridin' joke, just like their football program!
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: ednksu on March 29, 2014, 08:05:23 AM
guys since we don't have a mythology built on a stolen game to secure our sports's ego, what do you say we take up some of our parking lot space to build a structure to Nike Cortez shoes?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on March 29, 2014, 09:29:00 AM
The squawks stadium is a rough ridin' joke, just like their football program!

This is some cutting edge stuff, here.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 29, 2014, 09:39:22 AM
Kick his ass, spracs.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: kslim on March 29, 2014, 09:54:22 AM
I just wish they would get on with it already. Tracks built fellas, wasn't that what ku has been waiting for?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 29, 2014, 10:07:38 AM
Is the Gridiron club the funniest thing about ku?  It sucked to begin with, and they still couldn't afford it.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: wabash909 on March 29, 2014, 10:21:22 AM
Is the Gridiron club the funniest thing about ku?  It sucked to begin with, and they still couldn't afford it.

Yes.  Much funnier than the time they made a building for a piece of paper so they could pretend they invented the game of basketball.


Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Spracne on March 29, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
Is the Gridiron club the funniest thing about ku?  It sucked to begin with, and they still couldn't afford it.

We hired Gale Sayers to lead the fundraising efforts.  More like Kansas Comic.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 29, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
It's really just 2 different philosophies about how to run a football program.  It's no secret that KSU has always modeled its program after an NFL franchise (Dallas). It's why they have huge parking lots for their sell out crowd to tailgate several hours before the game.  RV's and elaborate tailgate set ups as far as you can see.  It's also why K-State has built basically Jerry World north in Manhattan.  Constantly putting up the best, most modern, most aesthetic and income generating facilities in the college game.

Ku has gone with  more of a Division II approach.  Small crowds, quaint stadium that doesn't take much to keep up.  Located by the low income student housing so the kids can roll out of bed and if they remember there is a home game that day they can stroll over to the stadium, yell the F word in public on a few kick offs and hit the Wheel by halftime.

Obviously, KSU likes the way its model works (Titletown) but Kansas seems more than content with theirs as well.  Just 2 different methods, neither is necessarily "right"
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MouseRat on March 29, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
Limestone!  Laughing never hurt so good!  Ouch.  I need to take five to collect myself and change my shorts.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 29, 2014, 08:50:35 PM
Limestone!  Laughing never hurt so good!  Ouch.  I need to take five to collect myself and change my shorts.

It was definitely a quality post.  Really encapsulates the state of each program very well. 
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: dave on March 29, 2014, 08:58:12 PM
One of the better posts on the internet, period.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bones129 on March 29, 2014, 10:17:40 PM
Epic post.  :billdance:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bucket on March 29, 2014, 10:18:21 PM
 :jerk:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Katpappy on March 30, 2014, 12:47:27 AM
Great post, LSOC.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Tobias on March 30, 2014, 01:09:31 AM
:jerk:

yes, lsoc's post was indeed pleasurable
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: star seed 7 on March 30, 2014, 02:21:24 AM
:jerk:

yes, lsoc's post was indeed pleasurable

Tobias, I don't think that's what bucket was saying
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Tobias on March 30, 2014, 02:24:04 AM
i never know when they're being literal or @scottwildcat
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: bucket on March 30, 2014, 02:58:49 AM
i never know when they're being literal or @scottwildcat

Hey! I did NOT hate on any wildcats....
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: TeeShirtFan on March 30, 2014, 07:08:33 PM
From the official KU Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.138440612961.111402.44728562961&type=1

- See what the Gridiron Club will look like when completed! Featuring club seating, it will enable Kansas Athletics to make a $40 million investment in KU academics. Learn more at http://www.kugridironclub.com/

Anyone need an iphone case?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: The Big Train on March 30, 2014, 07:24:42 PM
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Funded entirely through the sale of seats

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on March 30, 2014, 07:34:27 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/7218_138441692961_4148793_n.jpg)

Look like a glorified erector set
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 30, 2014, 09:24:41 PM
Glad they didn't waste their money on that nasty mess
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: Trogdor on March 30, 2014, 11:17:39 PM
Glad they didn't waste their money on that nasty mess

What money did they have to waste in the first place?
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: MadCat on March 30, 2014, 11:51:16 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/7218_138441692961_4148793_n.jpg)

Look like a glorified erector set
Lipstick facade on an erector-set-pig.
Title: Re: ku stadium
Post by: DQ12 on March 31, 2014, 01:22:48 AM
i never realized how horrible the gridiron club design was.  it always seemed to look very "meh" to me whenever i saw it, but man, that is actually horrible.

maybe when they find some viable financing for building something over there it will be a better outcome.

if there's one lesson we can learn from KU here, it's that sometimes being to poor to do anything can actually save you from having enough money to do something truly awful.