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Title: Sams / Thompson
Post by: BigShotAttorneyCat on October 03, 2013, 08:21:49 AM
We will be seeing Daniel playing some other positions this weekend. If we don't see Tramaine this weekend (or next) it has nothing to do with his comments after the Texas game.
Title: Re: Sams / Tramaine
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 03, 2013, 08:27:13 AM
 :Wha:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dual Ju on October 03, 2013, 08:31:29 AM
 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 08:31:52 AM
 :billdance:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 03, 2013, 08:32:26 AM
first part somewhat exciting, second part not exciting.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 08:37:12 AM
The fact that they do this instead of giving Sams a legitimate shot at playing QB angers me.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 08:40:03 AM
so help me god if waters does one of his skip passes to sams or sets him up to get blown up and he gets injured I will go back in time and kick his dad in the nuts until they detach.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rams on October 03, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
I hate that they didn't give him a real shot at qb (at least yet) but the thought of him running all over the field catching passes in space and torching dudes and winning games makes me happy inside.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Tobias on October 03, 2013, 08:51:08 AM
what a bullshit move
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Unruly on October 03, 2013, 08:52:38 AM
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Tobias on October 03, 2013, 08:54:10 AM
what a bullshit move

maybe chickenshit is what i meant?  both?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 08:54:55 AM
This game is going to be out of hand before the second quarter.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: scottwildcat on October 03, 2013, 08:58:17 AM
jfc
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pissclams on October 03, 2013, 08:59:44 AM
have any of you bear bryants out there in the audience tonight taken a second to think about the very simple fact that this move might be exactly what this pigskin team needs? 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:03:39 AM
I hate that they didn't give him a real shot at qb (at least yet) but the thought of him running all over the field catching passes in space and torching dudes and winning games makes me happy inside.

yeah, I have no doubt that daniel will be a stud receiver. I'm just sad that we still have turnoverdeliverysytem.com trying to get him the ball because I also have no doubt that daniel is a stud QB.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 03, 2013, 09:04:05 AM
I am in the "this angers the eff out of me" camp on this one. Four games have passed, why now? Good god, this is effing stupid. LET HIM THROW THE FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!

RE: Thompson, does this mean he is injured, or is BSAC being facetious?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 03, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
Yeah, Sams has been requesting to move to other positions if he's not going to play QB since last season. You should be happy for him.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Tobias on October 03, 2013, 09:05:07 AM
have any of you bear bryants out there in the audience tonight taken a second to think about the very simple fact that this move might be exactly what this pigskin team needs?

yes
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Pett on October 03, 2013, 09:06:30 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 03, 2013, 09:06:33 AM
I wonder why ERIII didn't just move to receiver to save the 03 season. . .
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: lopakman on October 03, 2013, 09:10:56 AM
Anything that gets Sams on the field more helps this team out.  It's time to just take what you can get. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
Anything that gets Sams on the field more helps this team out.  It's time to just take what you can get.

yes, everyone just give up and accept it. good life lesson here. FOR rough ridin' IDIOTS!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoEMAW on October 03, 2013, 09:12:57 AM
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: PIPE on October 03, 2013, 09:15:52 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position? 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 03, 2013, 09:16:52 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position?

that's not really the question to ask, but hey i'll answer! i would take the second option!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 09:17:36 AM
Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

They do?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:19:08 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position?

that's a dumbfuck question. It's like asking if someone would rather have $1,000 or get electrocuted. Him playing QB 100% of the snaps would be like adding $1,000,000 to the options.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 09:22:16 AM
Well since we are spilling the beans Dorian Roberts will play significantly less minutes so watch out for burns
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 09:23:56 AM
Welp.

This seems like a stupid move. 

That said, Sams would be a better corner or safety, imo, and would help out with more of a need.

What is stupid about all of this is that it took all of spring, all of summer, and a quarter of the season to figure out who should play where. 

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:25:19 AM
Welp.

This seems like a stupid move. 

That said, Sams would be a better corner or safety, imo, and would help out with more of a need.

What is stupid about all of this is that it took all of spring, all of summer, and a quarter of the season to figure out who should play where.

I think if Tramaine is out for a couple games WR is a pretty pressing concern given our current starting QB cripples our running game to the point other teams throw 11 CBs onto the field at once.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:25:59 AM
Well since we are spilling the beans Dorian Roberts will play significantly less minutes so watch out for burns

that's good news. feel free to share stud news like that with your pal steve dave as soon as you hear it next time.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 09:26:29 AM
Welp.

This seems like a stupid move. 

That said, Sams would be a better corner or safety, imo, and would help out with more of a need.

What is stupid about all of this is that it took all of spring, all of summer, and a quarter of the season to figure out who should play where.

They still haven't figured it out.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
Also was told that this is a package/packages and if we get down quick not to expect it
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
How will Sams get the ball as a receiver if his name isn’t Lockett?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 03, 2013, 09:27:05 AM
A Kstate football team without any threat of the QB run.  A proven winner
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 09:27:15 AM
Well since we are spilling the beans Dorian Roberts will play significantly less minutes so watch out for burns

that's good news. feel free to share stud news like that with your pal steve dave as soon as you hear it next time.

 :D
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:27:40 AM
How will Sams get the ball as a receiver if his name isn’t Lockett?

maybe on some plays waters will just stare down sams the entire time and throw him the ball instead of lockett.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: PIPE on October 03, 2013, 09:29:30 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position?

that's a dumbfuck question. It's like asking if someone would rather have $1,000 or get electrocuted. Him playing QB 100% of the snaps would be like adding $1,000,000 to the options.


Really?.....some people melting down about him not playing QB......And what has he shown at Qb to get you all hot and bothered?  Let me guess, "zone read...zone read....QB draw....punt...."  Yes, yes, I know he did score against the crap teams earlier when he had like 3 carries and some TD's....Get the guy on the freakin field....can't believe it took our coaching staff this long to figure something out.....oh, wait, let's see what happens this weekend yet, probably will be the usual Qb draw crap still.....
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 09:30:07 AM
Well since we are spilling the beans Dorian Roberts will play significantly less minutes so watch out for burns

that's good news. feel free to share stud news like that with your pal steve dave as soon as you hear it next time.

Sorry SD, Meister and bsac beat you to it
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 09:30:40 AM
Also was told that this is a package/packages and if we get down quick not to expect it

Like, this is just the awesomest thing ever.  "Hey, we're only going to put this athletic playmaker out on the field when the game is close.  When we get down 14 and have to throw to win the game?  F that noise - sit him down and run Miller out there"
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 03, 2013, 09:31:21 AM
How will Sams get the ball as a receiver if his name isn’t Lockett?

maybe on some plays waters will just stare down sams the entire time and throw him the ball instead of lockett.

Waters will do the take the snap and throw it down the line to Sams at least 3 times.  If OSU is fooled by it even once, they are absolute buffoons
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position?

that's a dumbfuck question. It's like asking if someone would rather have $1,000 or get electrocuted. Him playing QB 100% of the snaps would be like adding $1,000,000 to the options.


Really?.....some people melting down about him not playing QB......And what has he shown at Qb to get you all hot and bothered?  Let me guess, "zone read...zone read....QB draw....punt...."  Yes, yes, I know he did score against the crap teams earlier when he had like 3 carries and some TD's....Get the guy on the freakin field....can't believe it took our coaching staff this long to figure something out.....oh, wait, let's see what happens this weekend yet, probably will be the usual Qb draw crap still.....

yes really, dumbass. I wouldn't say it if it wasn't real.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 09:32:14 AM
The package I'm alluding to is in the backfield zacker
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 09:32:51 AM
Also was told that this is a package/packages and if we get down quick not to expect it

Like, this is just the awesomest thing ever.  "Hey, we're only going to put this athletic playmaker out on the field when the game is close.  When we get down 14 and have to throw to win the game?  F that noise - sit him down and run Miller out there"

you know what really helps with comebacks? turning the ball over shitloads. also not scoring TDs.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 09:33:11 AM
I think if Tramaine is out for a couple games WR is a pretty pressing concern given our current starting QB cripples our running game to the point other teams throw 11 CBs onto the field at once.

So dumb.

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 09:34:30 AM
Also was told that this is a package/packages and if we get down quick not to expect it

This makes more sense.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 09:35:28 AM
How will Sams get the ball as a receiver if his name isn’t Lockett?

maybe on some plays waters will just stare down sams the entire time and throw him the ball instead of lockett.

"My good friend Daniel on three... ready?  Break!"
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: deputy dawg on October 03, 2013, 09:36:05 AM
have any of you bear bryants out there in the audience tonight taken a second to think about the very simple fact that this move might be exactly what this pigskin team needs?

Don't know what to think of Sams playing somewhere other than QB, but I did think this was  :lol:.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 03, 2013, 09:36:44 AM
Waters will do the take the snap and throw it down the line to Sams at least 3 times.  If OSU is fooled by it even once, they are absolute buffoons

yes yes yes yes this. absolutely this. i'm already pissed at the predictability.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 03, 2013, 09:36:54 AM
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 09:36:58 AM
The package I'm alluding to is in the backfield zacker


Oh…well F me.  I mean, D Sams and Mr. Int in the same backfield in a shotgun set.  I mean, think of all the options that we can run Jake out of that in. 

We’ve had 2 weeks and THIS is what this staff has come up with?  Hell, not even 2 weeks…we’ve had spring practice, spring game, summer practice, 4 games…AND two weeks. 

I’m done with them.  Done.  For as good as they did at optimizing the strengths of this roster the past 2 years they are just as if not worse at doing it this year.  I don’t even. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: _33 on October 03, 2013, 09:37:15 AM
The QB capable of playing every position on the field at a high level should be starting at QB.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 09:37:45 AM
 Btw none of this matters if our line doesn't have its crap together and if that's the case I'm against it, we are a injury or two away from 2004 and I'd like to salvage the season
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 09:37:54 AM
Its clear Waters never makes any good reads. That breakdown I did of Lockett's game in Austin showed that all Waters did was "stare him down" and was just lucky Lockett caught it so much.

Look, I get the Waters critiques, but some of this has just gotten stupid.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: deputy dawg on October 03, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
Waters will do the take the snap and throw it down the line to Sams at least 3 times.  If OSU is fooled by it even once, they are absolute buffoons

yes yes yes yes this. absolutely this. i'm already pissed at the predictability.

Curious that you would think passes would be short.  Waters, despite his faults, has shown ability to go deep.  Sams would lay some burn on DB's and CB's in space, providing Waters can get it there.  I think Waters can.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 09:39:31 AM
Its clear Waters never makes any good reads. That breakdown I did of Lockett's game in Austin showed that all Waters did was "stare him down" and was just lucky Lockett caught it so much.

Look, I get the Waters critiques, but some of this has just gotten stupid.


:thumbs:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: TownieCat on October 03, 2013, 09:39:46 AM
Normally I would think  LHCBS is just setting up this play...except for the fact he doesn't let #4 throw the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGwSb2aMqwc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGwSb2aMqwc)
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 09:40:13 AM
Guys, back when I used to be a stud at things like NFL Blitz or Madden '98, I used to do the half back pass like every third play, and if you waited a really long time and let a certain receiver just run a really long time, you could 70yrd bomb touchdowns all day 'er day if you were the Madden Allstars and were playing the colts or something. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 03, 2013, 09:41:38 AM
Waters will do the take the snap and throw it down the line to Sams at least 3 times.  If OSU is fooled by it even once, they are absolute buffoons

yes yes yes yes this. absolutely this. i'm already pissed at the predictability.

Curious that you would think passes would be short.  Waters, despite his faults, has shown ability to go deep.  Sams would lay some burn on DB's and CB's in space, providing Waters can get it there.  I think Waters can.

i think it because it's what's going to happen.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 09:42:20 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position?

that's a dumbfuck question. It's like asking if someone would rather have $1,000 or get electrocuted. Him playing QB 100% of the snaps would be like adding $1,000,000 to the options.


Really?.....some people melting down about him not playing QB......And what has he shown at Qb to get you all hot and bothered?  Let me guess, "zone read...zone read....QB draw....punt...."  Yes, yes, I know he did score against the crap teams earlier when he had like 3 carries and some TD's....Get the guy on the freakin field....can't believe it took our coaching staff this long to figure something out.....oh, wait, let's see what happens this weekend yet, probably will be the usual Qb draw crap still.....

I think everyone is just seeing the offense move the ball better with Sams only running draws than it does with Waters throwing the ball to Lockett and occasionally throwing picks and scrambling for short gains and losses. Just think about how well the offense would move the ball if Sams were to start throwing passes.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 09:43:32 AM
Sams scores like every third time he touches the ball.  We should let him keep touching the ball until that average gets back down to normal man's level. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 03, 2013, 09:44:30 AM
Torell "Stone Hands" Miller step up to the plate :facepalm:

Most people blame Waters for that Int. to Miller that went off of his facemask, you know?

Anyways, would you people rather have our most dynamic athlete sitting on the sidelines "waiting" to play QB, or running all over people on the field, all beit at another position?

that's a dumbfuck question. It's like asking if someone would rather have $1,000 or get electrocuted. Him playing QB 100% of the snaps would be like adding $1,000,000 to the options.


Really?.....some people melting down about him not playing QB......And what has he shown at Qb to get you all hot and bothered?  Let me guess, "zone read...zone read....QB draw....punt...."  Yes, yes, I know he did score against the crap teams earlier when he had like 3 carries and some TD's....Get the guy on the freakin field....can't believe it took our coaching staff this long to figure something out.....oh, wait, let's see what happens this weekend yet, probably will be the usual Qb draw crap still.....

I think everyone is just seeing the offense move the ball better with Sams only running draws than it does with Waters throwing the ball to Lockett and occasionally throwing picks and scrambling for short gains and losses. Just think about how well the offense would move the ball if Sams were to start throwing passes.

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 09:44:53 AM
How many different ways will Bill be able to run Jake with Sams in the backfield or split out as WR?  That's what I'll be looking for.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 09:46:16 AM
Guys, this is all just Bill spreading misinformation.  I mean, Bookie Pimp told us this would never happen, both in the game at the same time.... 

How will we even veer?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 09:46:39 AM
Its clear Waters never makes any good reads. That breakdown I did of Lockett's game in Austin showed that all Waters did was "stare him down" and was just lucky Lockett caught it so much.

Look, I get the Waters critiques, but some of this has just gotten stupid.

Critiques on Waters are no more ridiculous than this staff trying to fix a broken car engine by putting in a new battery.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 03, 2013, 09:48:18 AM
jesus harold christ.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 03, 2013, 09:50:16 AM
This is maybe the most racist thing the staff has done, fwiw.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 09:50:44 AM
Guys, this is all just Bill spreading misinformation.  I mean, Bookie Pimp told us this would never happen, both in the game at the same time.... 

How will we even veer?

Running the veer would be an excellent way to get Sams some negative yardage so that people might start shutting up about him needing to be on the field more. Maybe this is Bill's plan.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 8manpick on October 03, 2013, 09:51:41 AM
If we love him, let him go.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 09:51:49 AM
This thread had potential, then all the dumbassery started.   
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 8manpick on October 03, 2013, 09:52:18 AM
Also, PIPE belongs on GPC
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rams on October 03, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
I just want to take this time to acknowledge zacker for having an mvp bbs season.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: TownieCat on October 03, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
I can't wait for Sams to get hurt while blocking for Waters on a speed option play to the short side of the field... :flush:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 09:54:13 AM
I think everyone is just seeing the offense move the ball better with Sams only running draws than it does with Waters throwing the ball to Lockett and occasionally throwing picks and scrambling for short gains and losses. Just think about how well the offense would move the ball if Sams were to start throwing passes.

Based on the OOC or the Texas game?

Look, I try to be fair in my analysis based on watching (and rewatching the games). And based on Sams just running the ball, K-State got to 3rd and 6, 3rd and 13, and 3rd and 10 on 3 straight drives that he led. I don't disagree that he didn't get a complete shot because he didn't throw the ball, but to say "moves the ball better with Sams only running draws" has no evidence from what we saw in Austin.

My analysis of the QB spot at K-State has only come from what I've seen, and I have made no assumptions that Sams can't read defenses or doesn't know the offense. But based on what hes not allowed to do, its clear the offensive coaching staff does not trust him to run some parts of the offense, and that's the only reason why I've pretty much conceded the spot to Waters.

Finally, in my analysis of every offensive play from 3 of our 4 games, Austin was by far Waters' best game, and I don't think its fair to conclude that he only had success in garbage time. His fumble was completely and utterly inexcusable, but that really wasn't a decision; as far as decision making goes I think he graded very, very well versus Texas. Frankly, this "stares down his receivers" talking point has very little evidence from my observations. If anything, he has made mistakes in presnap reads occasionally, but the reason he was throwing to Lockett so much IMHO vs Texas is because his presnap reads told him that Lockett would be open and he only made one mistake on a throw to Lockett in 19 attempts (the miscommunicated back shoulder throw).

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
Man, Mr. Int and Sams in the backfield, shotgun formation, we're on OSU's 25yd line....oh, Jake sees something...rushes to the LOS...audibles...hike....short side option.  what a thing of beauty.  can't wait for it.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:02:42 AM
Man, Mr. Int and Sams in the backfield, shotgun formation, we're on OSU's 25yd line....oh, Jake sees something...rushes to the LOS...audibles...hike....short side option.  what a thing of beauty.  can't wait for it.

Agree that any type of speed option with Waters is absolutely stupid.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 03, 2013, 10:09:53 AM
I guess what I’m getting at is this:  what super awesome plays are we really going to run with Sams in the backfield?

Run a read option with him?  It doesn’t matter who’s in the backfield if they are in the backfield with Jake as the QB;  the defense doesn’t have to choose when Jake is the QB.  Oh, we’re going to run a delayed option (like a shuffle option) to the right so Daniel can fake’em out and throw?  Defense will never see that coming.

Great, line him up at WR.  Throw him an out route to the sideline.  Wonderful.  Heaven help me if we do have him at WR and don't throw a jail break screen to him I'll puke.

It’s just so stupid.  It’s so stupid to think that this will in any way help.  And what’s worse is that after some time to reflect on the offense, THIS is what the staff came up with. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 10:10:19 AM
I think everyone is just seeing the offense move the ball better with Sams only running draws than it does with Waters throwing the ball to Lockett and occasionally throwing picks and scrambling for short gains and losses. Just think about how well the offense would move the ball if Sams were to start throwing passes.

Based on the OOC or the Texas game?

Look, I try to be fair in my analysis based on watching (and rewatching the games). And based on Sams just running the ball, K-State got to 3rd and 6, 3rd and 13, and 3rd and 10 on 3 straight drives that he led. I don't disagree that he didn't get a complete shot because he didn't throw the ball, but to say "moves the ball better with Sams only running draws" has no evidence from what we saw in Austin.

My analysis of the QB spot at K-State has only come from what I've seen, and I have made no assumptions that Sams can't read defenses or doesn't know the offense. But based on what hes not allowed to do, its clear the offensive coaching staff does not trust him to run some parts of the offense, and that's the only reason why I've pretty much conceded the spot to Waters.

Finally, in my analysis of every offensive play from 3 of our 4 games, Austin was by far Waters' best game, and I don't think its fair to conclude that he only had success in garbage time. His fumble was completely and utterly inexcusable, but that really wasn't a decision; as far as decision making goes I think he graded very, very well versus Texas. Frankly, this "stares down his receivers" talking point has very little evidence from my observations. If anything, he has made mistakes in presnap reads occasionally, but the reason he was throwing to Lockett so much IMHO vs Texas is because his presnap reads told him that Lockett would be open and he only made one mistake on a throw to Lockett in 19 attempts (the miscommunicated back shoulder throw).

It's based on yards per play, points, and turnovers over the course of the season. Hasn't Sams been better?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2013, 10:13:56 AM
bsac you son of a B with this terrible news!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:17:48 AM
It's based on yards per play, points, and turnovers over the course of the season. Hasn't Sams been better?

Yes, I broke down what Sams did in other games and he did well leading up to UT, but my comment was based on only what we saw in Austin.

Sams was not allowed to throw (one throw was called, though a safe one) against Texas and that's a fair critique of the coaching staff. He was also hurt by some penalties. But using a pretty diverse QB run game package, the offense did not move up and down the field with him at quarterback, nor did it even cross midfield.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 10:18:05 AM
college QB and lifelong professional college analyst kirk herbstreit: waters stares down his WR worse than anyone I've ever seen in my entire life omg it's awful, LOOK AT IT! :replay of it showing that exact thing over and over:

noted mom's basement live'r ksu_FAN: he doesn't do that. you can tell from some of the pixels right here and I've watched a lot of football in my life.

hmmmm, very interesting.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:18:58 AM
college QB and lifelong professional college analyst kirk herbstreit: waters stares down his WR worse than anyone I've ever seen in my entire life omg it's awful, LOOK AT IT! :replay of it showing that exact thing over and over:

noted mom's basement live'r ksu_FAN: he doesn't do that. you can tell from some of the pixels right here and I've watched a lot of football in my life.

hmmmm, very interesting.

:D
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 8manpick on October 03, 2013, 10:20:29 AM
Kurt herbstreit... Lol
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
college QB and lifelong professional college analyst kirk herbstreit: waters stares down his WR worse than anyone I've ever seen in my entire life omg it's awful, LOOK AT IT! :replay of it showing that exact thing over and over:

noted mom's basement live'r ksu_FAN: he doesn't do that. you can tell from some of the pixels right here and I've watched a lot of football in my life.

hmmmm, very interesting.

SD's celebrity obsession has reached an all time high. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Kurt herbstreit... Lol

Yeah, I know. Ohio State loser.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2013, 10:22:56 AM
possible new ksu offense nicknames- "the stare and dink" "stare and dunk" "stare, dink, dunk" "stare, dink, dunk 'em down. kstate wildcats take that crown" "staring at double d's (dinks and dunks)"
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 03, 2013, 10:24:32 AM
This could be great or it could fail miserably.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 03, 2013, 10:24:50 AM

Sams was not allowed to throw . . . the offense did not move up and down the field with him at quarterback.


I mean, we all agree that a "diverse QB run game package" becomes a lot less diverse (i.e. more predictable) when the QB is not allowed to throw.


 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:25:51 AM
possible new ksu offense nicknames- "the stare and dink" "stare and dunk" "stare, dink, dunk" "stare, dink, dunk 'em down. kstate wildcats take that crown" "staring at double d's (dinks and dunks)"

Jake Waters Stare Down Dink and Dunk Fest

JWSDDDF
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 03, 2013, 10:26:35 AM
Somebody just make it so Waters can't make the trip.  Then Sams plays QB, maybe Thompson recovers or whatever because we really, really need him, and we're awesome and nobody bothers bailing Waters out for the rest of the year.

#H2No
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 10:27:12 AM
It's based on yards per play, points, and turnovers over the course of the season. Hasn't Sams been better?

Yes, I broke down what Sams did in other games and he did well leading up to UT, but my comment was based on only what we saw in Austin.

Sams was not allowed to throw (one throw was called, though a safe one) against Texas and that's a fair critique of the coaching staff. He was also hurt by some penalties. But using a pretty diverse QB run game package, the offense did not move up and down the field with him at quarterback, nor did it even cross midfield.

He was only on the field for 11 snaps.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 0.42 on October 03, 2013, 10:28:13 AM
Jake Waters Stare Down Dink and Dunk Fest

JWSDDDF

Not sure if newest punk or kRustymichimichicat hipster band
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 10:30:18 AM
possible new ksu offense nicknames- "the stare and dink" "stare and dunk" "stare, dink, dunk" "stare, dink, dunk 'em down. kstate wildcats take that crown" "staring at double d's (dinks and dunks)"

Jake Waters Stare Down Dink and Dunk Fest

JWSDDDF

JWSDDDFBFInt

Jake Waters Stare Down Dink and Dunk Fest Butt Fumble Int
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: PIPE on October 03, 2013, 10:30:26 AM
I think everyone is just seeing the offense move the ball better with Sams only running draws than it does with Waters throwing the ball to Lockett and occasionally throwing picks and scrambling for short gains and losses. Just think about how well the offense would move the ball if Sams were to start throwing passes.

Based on the OOC or the Texas game?

Look, I try to be fair in my analysis based on watching (and rewatching the games). And based on Sams just running the ball, K-State got to 3rd and 6, 3rd and 13, and 3rd and 10 on 3 straight drives that he led. I don't disagree that he didn't get a complete shot because he didn't throw the ball, but to say "moves the ball better with Sams only running draws" has no evidence from what we saw in Austin.

My analysis of the QB spot at K-State has only come from what I've seen, and I have made no assumptions that Sams can't read defenses or doesn't know the offense. But based on what hes not allowed to do, its clear the offensive coaching staff does not trust him to run some parts of the offense, and that's the only reason why I've pretty much conceded the spot to Waters.

Finally, in my analysis of every offensive play from 3 of our 4 games, Austin was by far Waters' best game, and I don't think its fair to conclude that he only had success in garbage time. His fumble was completely and utterly inexcusable, but that really wasn't a decision; as far as decision making goes I think he graded very, very well versus Texas. Frankly, this "stares down his receivers" talking point has very little evidence from my observations. If anything, he has made mistakes in presnap reads occasionally, but the reason he was throwing to Lockett so much IMHO vs Texas is because his presnap reads told him that Lockett would be open and he only made one mistake on a throw to Lockett in 19 attempts (the miscommunicated back shoulder throw).

Thanks......I get tired of all the blame going towards Waters, when I think most should go towards this coaching staff.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
He was only on the field for 11 snaps.

Yes, part of that was because of his limits in throwing the ball and part because the offense wasn't consistently gaining first downs with the package they had for him. Two out of three drives Waters came in and converted a 3rd down, it would be a legitimate question as to why Sams wasn't reinserted after that on those 2 drives if they were really going to use the Sams package.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 03, 2013, 10:34:35 AM
He was only on the field for 11 snaps.

Yes, part of that was because of his limits in throwing the ball and part because the offense wasn't consistently gaining first downs with the package they had for him. Two out of three drives Waters came in and converted a 3rd down, it would be a legitimate question as to why Sams wasn't reinserted after that on those 2 drives if they were really going to use the Sams package.

The fact that Waters got 18 designed run plays and Sams got 8 against a team that cant stop the read option really pissed me off.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 03, 2013, 10:34:47 AM
Also was told that this is a package/packages and if we get down quick not to expect it
Or if we get up quick, don't expect it. I am getting more and more pissed off as I think about this.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on October 03, 2013, 10:34:51 AM
Guys, this is all just Bill spreading misinformation.  I mean, Bookie Pimp told us this would never happen, both in the game at the same time.... 

How will we even veer?

Link please.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 03, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
Somebody just make it so Waters can't make the trip.  Then Sams plays QB, maybe Thompson recovers or whatever because we really, really need him, and we're awesome and nobody bothers bailing Waters out for the rest of the year.

#H2No

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 10:36:36 AM
I just don't think the staff ever really thought Texas would sell out against the run the way they did against Sams and they were completely unprepared for it. I'm not sure if I've witnessed a coaching performance by any staff as bad as the one we have had over the first 4 games of this season.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 03, 2013, 10:37:50 AM
He was only on the field for 11 snaps.

Yes, part of that was because of his limits in throwing the ball and part because the offense wasn't consistently gaining first downs with the package they had for him. Two out of three drives Waters came in and converted a 3rd down, it would be a legitimate question as to why Sams wasn't reinserted after that on those 2 drives if they were really going to use the Sams package.

The fact that Waters got 18 designed run plays and Sams got 8 against a team that cant stop the read option really pissed me off.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:41:12 AM
The fact that Waters got 18 designed run plays and Sams got 8 against a team that cant stop the read option really pissed me off.

Sams ran 4 read options, 4 QB leads, and 1 QB power. I think one of the read options was actually QB power too, but someone messed it up. 2 plays with penalties as well; 1 was speed option, 1 was QB lead.

Waters ran 2 stretch read options, 7 speed options (kept it twice), and 8 QB leads. The rest were sacks/scrambles.

The speed option point has been talked about enough, and those were dumb. The stretch reads were our best running gains for Hubert. I think QB reads are okay, but 8 is too many for Waters.

If Waters is playing QB for the majority of snaps, I'd like to see no more than 4-6 designed running plays called per game.

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2013, 10:41:18 AM
jesus harold christ.

I always wondered about that h
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Brock Landers on October 03, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
possible new ksu offense nicknames- "the stare and dink" "stare and dunk" "stare, dink, dunk" "stare, dink, dunk 'em down. kstate wildcats take that crown" "staring at double d's (dinks and dunks)"


Dunkin' Oh Nuts
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 03, 2013, 10:42:23 AM
jesus harold christ.

I always wondered about that h

I always thought it was Hugo FWIW.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2013, 10:45:39 AM
possible new ksu offense nicknames- "the stare and dink" "stare and dunk" "stare, dink, dunk" "stare, dink, dunk 'em down. kstate wildcats take that crown" "staring at double d's (dinks and dunks)"

Jake Waters Stare Down Dink and Dunk Fest

JWSDDDF

the jake waters dunk tank  :dunno:

then you have a picture of sams sitting on the piece of wood over the dunk tank and waters getting ready to throw a football at the bullseye. or locket. you guys get the idea.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 10:45:56 AM
jesus harold christ.

I always wondered about that h

I always thought it was Hugo FWIW.

Hambone
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 10:57:01 AM
He was only on the field for 11 snaps.

Yes, part of that was because of his limits in throwing the ball and part because the offense wasn't consistently gaining first downs with the package they had for him. Two out of three drives Waters came in and converted a 3rd down, it would be a legitimate question as to why Sams wasn't reinserted after that on those 2 drives if they were really going to use the Sams package.

Also a legitimate question is why do you need to take out Sams on third and six.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 10:59:04 AM
He was only on the field for 11 snaps.
because of his limits in throwing the ball

Also a legitimate question is why do you need to take out Sams on third and six.

I meant to imply that above; I didn't mean to imply that his skill was limited because from what we've seen in games we don't know if it is.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 10:59:22 AM
I just don't think the staff ever really thought Texas would sell out against the run the way they did against Sams and they were completely unprepared for it. I'm not sure if I've witnessed a coaching performance by any staff as bad as the one we have had over the first 4 games of this season.

If our staff didn't think that they would, then our staff is the worst staff in college fb given our strict color coded offense.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 11:00:30 AM
Also, Waters in the run game doesn't bother me that much. His turnovers and stalled drives and loss to the D2 team bother me...I just don't think running Hubert instead of Waters will be as beneficial as people think it would be.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: deputy dawg on October 03, 2013, 11:03:22 AM
So, will anyone admit to being complete dumbasses if Waters torches Okie State enough for us to win?  A fair question.  I know everyone is team Sams, and I'd like to see more of Sams too, but Waters is just now seeing what real BCS football looks like, and shows signs of a good passing game.  Not sure he's had enough of a chance to show what he has before everyone Jeff Schwinns him.  I get it, Sams needs a chance to demonstrate his passing game too, and has already shown a much better run game. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Skipper44 on October 03, 2013, 11:04:34 AM
Also, Waters in the run game doesn't bother me that much. His turnovers and stalled drives and loss to the D2 team bother me...I just don't think running Hubert instead of Waters will be as beneficial as people think it would be.
the best benefit of taking Waters out of the run game is 2 less fumbles.  The risk:reward of Waters running the option is off the charts bad

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
Also, Waters in the run game doesn't bother me that much. His turnovers and stalled drives and loss to the D2 team bother me...I just don't think running Hubert instead of Waters will be as beneficial as people think it would be.

Hubert at least runs like a running back and doesn't shy away from contact. I just don't think we go deep nearly enough to get the defense on their toes so that Hubert can be effective running the ball with Waters at QB. I'd really like to see somebody else get a shot at RB. We need more speed at that position if Waters is going to be the QB.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 11:07:09 AM
Also, Waters in the run game doesn't bother me that much. His turnovers and stalled drives and loss to the D2 team bother me...I just don't think running Hubert instead of Waters will be as beneficial as people think it would be.

Hubert at least runs like a running back and doesn't shy away from contact. I just don't think we go deep nearly enough to get the defense on their toes so that Hubert can be effective running the ball with Waters at QB. I'd really like to see somebody else get a shot at RB. We need more speed at that position if Waters is going to be the QB.

I pretty much agree.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 11:08:30 AM
So, will anyone admit to being complete dumbasses if Waters torches Okie State enough for us to win?  A fair question.  I know everyone is team Sams, and I'd like to see more of Sams too, but Waters is just now seeing what real BCS football looks like, and shows signs of a good passing game.  Not sure he's had enough of a chance to show what he has before everyone Jeff Schwinns him.  I get it, Sams needs a chance to demonstrate his passing game too, and has already shown a much better run game.

Would you have admitted to being a complete dumbass about Schwinn if he would have started against OSU and won? I wouldn't. He lost to Marshall, just like Waters lost to NDSU.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
Also, Waters in the run game doesn't bother me that much. His turnovers and stalled drives and loss to the D2 team bother me...I just don't think running Hubert instead of Waters will be as beneficial as people think it would be.

it wouldn't be. the entire run game grinds to a stop with him at QB. dorks can "grade out" his passes for Texas and decide that was a good game but when he eliminates an entire portion of our offense (the portion we have traditionally relied upon the most) I grade him an F-.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 03, 2013, 11:08:53 AM
well, having our best athlete on the bench for over half the snaps doesnt do us any good. do whatever it takes to get him on the field and get him in space. its a definitely comparitive advantage to the status quo.

i like the move, if the only other option is having him play QB2 as opposed to QB1.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 11:09:08 AM
I think seeing waters lose to a fcs team is enough for me never to put my chips in the middle of the table on him, especially after SAMs destroyed them

The seeing bcs defenses is a decent talking point but you should never lose to a d2 team
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
well, having your best athlete on the bench for over half the snaps doesnt do us any good. do whatever it takes to get him on the field and get him in space. its a definitely comparitive advantage to the status quo.

i like the move, if the only other option is having him play QB2 as opposed to QB1.

That's not the only other option, though. Nothing is keeping Snyder from making him QB1 and winning games.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: lopakman on October 03, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
well, having your best athlete on the bench for over half the snaps doesnt do us any good. do whatever it takes to get him on the field and get him in space. its a definitely comparitive advantage to the status quo.

i like the move, if the only other option is having him play QB2 as opposed to QB1.

That's not the only other option, though. Nothing is keeping Snyder from making him QB1 and winning games.

It is the only other option if Snyder refuses to play him as QB1.  I don't understand why people don't get this. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 03, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
well, having your best athlete on the bench for over half the snaps doesnt do us any good. do whatever it takes to get him on the field and get him in space. its a definitely comparitive advantage to the status quo.

i like the move, if the only other option is having him play QB2 as opposed to QB1.

That's not the only other option, though. Nothing is keeping Snyder from making him QB1 and winning games.

id like you to read my post again and then stop being stubborn.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Pett on October 03, 2013, 11:20:33 AM
Everyone chill the eff out and let's see if we can get some other tidbits from our bye week out of bsac :shy:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 11:24:57 AM
Also, Waters in the run game doesn't bother me that much. His turnovers and stalled drives and loss to the D2 team bother me...I just don't think running Hubert instead of Waters will be as beneficial as people think it would be.

it wouldn't be. the entire run game grinds to a stop with him at QB. dorks can "grade out" his passes for Texas and decide that was a good game but when he eliminates an entire portion of our offense (the portion we have traditionally relied upon the most) I grade him an F-.

Hurts. Man.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 03, 2013, 11:25:49 AM
Waters is just now seeing what real BCS football looks like

We really mumped him over by shielding him from BCS football in week 1.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 11:26:18 AM
Everyone chill the eff and let's see if we can get some other tidbits from our bye week out of bsac :shy:

That's it
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 03, 2013, 12:09:30 PM
Um, so like is Thompson hurt or suspended? He seemed maybe a little dinged at Texas but wasn't sure how/when it happened.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 03, 2013, 12:14:03 PM
Um, so like is Thompson hurt or suspended? He seemed maybe a little dinged at Texas but wasn't sure how/when it happened.

Ball hit him really hard in the hands.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 03, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
i don't even want to know. lately the b in bsac stands for bad news.  :frown:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 03, 2013, 12:32:06 PM
Um, so like is Thompson hurt or suspended? He seemed maybe a little dinged at Texas but wasn't sure how/when it happened.

He's not suspended
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 03, 2013, 12:33:14 PM
i don't even want to know. lately the b in bsac stands for bad news.  :frown:

bad shot attorney cat- guns pointed right at good news!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 03, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
So we will see Daniel play some different positions or is it going to be that we added the package but won't utilize it unless it helps us win the game bullshit?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EMAWmeister on October 03, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
So we will see Daniel play some different positions or is it going to be that we added the package but won't utilize it unless it helps us win the game bullshit?

I think if it's clear that we won't need it because of being blown out or being successful with Waters, we won't see it.  If the game is on the le and we haven't used it yet, no way in hell do we pull it out then IMO
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
If Daniel is happy so am I
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: KITNfury on October 03, 2013, 12:52:10 PM
I think this will open up the offense big time. We prolly lose 0-1 games from here on out.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2013, 12:53:12 PM
So to clarify, who is our backup quarterback? So like, if Daniel will "play other positions" does that mean some snaps at QB and others at WR/RB?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 03, 2013, 12:55:32 PM
jesus harold christ.

I always wondered about that h

Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 03, 2013, 12:58:47 PM
Sams' effectiveness at another position is directly contingent upon the effectiveness of our QB. 

So, good luck!! 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: ManBearTurkey on October 03, 2013, 12:59:43 PM
Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.


Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 03, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
jesus harold christ.

I always wondered about that h

Our Father, who art in heaven, Harold be thy name

"Hark!", Harold's angel sings.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 03, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
So if Waters gets injured does Sams play QB or is it Ertz so Sams can stay at WR?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2013, 01:09:16 PM
So if Waters gets injured does Sams play QB or is it Ertz so Sams can stay at WR?

So to clarify, who is our backup quarterback? So like, if Daniel will "play other positions" does that mean some snaps at QB and others at WR/RB?

 :impatient:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:09:42 PM
So if Waters gets injured does Sams play QB or is it Ertz so Sams can stay at WR?

I would hope that it would be Sams at that point.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 03, 2013, 01:10:59 PM
So if Waters gets injured does Sams play QB or is it Ertz so Sams can stay at WR?

So to clarify, who is our backup quarterback? So like, if Daniel will "play other positions" does that mean some snaps at QB and others at WR/RB?

 :impatient:

Sometimes I don't think BSAC knows as much as he thinks he does. Like, we would have totally owned him at fattyfest.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
So if Waters gets injured does Sams play QB or is it Ertz so Sams can stay at WR?

So to clarify, who is our backup quarterback? So like, if Daniel will "play other positions" does that mean some snaps at QB and others at WR/RB?

 :impatient:

I don't think sams is converting to full time WR. just maybe seeing the field some at that position.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 01:16:32 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.

someone record the game and edit out the rest of the snaps and all of the time we are on defense and then post it to youtube for me to watch.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 03, 2013, 01:19:50 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.

I would be fine with Waters playing QB during garbage time in the 4th quarter when we have a double digit lead.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 03, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.

I would be fine with Waters playing QB during garbage time in the 4th quarter when we have a double digit lead.
NO! After throwing 70 yard bombs all game long and running for 9 touchdowns with multiple foot plants, the garbage time will be for working on the dink and dunk game. Sams needs to get the reps in so he can dink and dunk better than Waters.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:28:24 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.

I would be fine with Waters playing QB during garbage time in the 4th quarter when we have a double digit lead.
NO! After throwing 70 yard bombs all game long and running for 9 touchdowns with multiple foot plants, the garbage time will be for working on the dink and dunk game. Sams needs to get the reps in so he can dink and dunk better than Waters.

OSU has a history of playing dirty when things go south, and I'd rather let Waters trot out there to get sketti'd so we can have Sams next week to maybe beat Baylor.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: ben ji on October 03, 2013, 01:35:43 PM
Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

Terrance Newman used to play some WR  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: mocat on October 03, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

Terrance Newman used to play some WR  :dunno:

LOL at ben "real ksu fan" ji thinking a blocked PAT for a TD was a reception for a TD  :lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: TownieCat on October 03, 2013, 01:40:40 PM

Sometimes I don't think BSAC knows as much as he thinks he does. Like, we would have totally owned him at fattyfest.

 :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 03, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

Terrance Newman used to play some WR  :dunno:

LOL at ben "real ksu fan" ji thinking a blocked PAT for a TD was a reception for a TD  :lol:
LOL at "NO"mocat thinking a blocked PAT returned the other way was a TD :lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
Plus Newman did play some wide receiver, momentiacat.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 03, 2013, 01:47:05 PM
This resembles mocat's attempt at math.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Newman's "reception" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bFzrEPjpqRY#t=81)
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:53:25 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoEMAW on October 03, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 03, 2013, 01:56:32 PM
I loved when Snyder was asked why they played him at WR and he said something like, "That young man is going to be making lots of money soon, so it's in my best interests to make sure he stays happy".
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: deputy dawg on October 03, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

Newman did kick returns a lot, not often you see defensive player called to do that. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2013, 02:00:55 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm)



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks Dad.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 02:09:23 PM
Didn't we run a fake punt to him? Or at least just throw a deep bomb to him to get a PI call?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoEMAW on October 03, 2013, 02:10:44 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm)



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks, CF3, you beat me to it. Flawless googling. Did you remember that one though? Man, that was awesome, huh. We may be dating ourselves a bit though!  :lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 02:13:42 PM
Quote
While K-State's Man of Steel returns as a Thorpe Award candidate at cornerback, he's also the Wildcats' top candidate to return punts and kickoffs. And while he's not listed on the offensive depth chart, wide receivers coach Greg Peterson calls Newman the "X-factor" when boiling down quarterback Marc Dunn potential targets.

The possibilities thrill the Salina senior.

"It's exciting just to flat-out run," Newman said. "At cornerback, you have to backpedal, turn your hips, stop and plant. At receiver, I'm going forward all the time and it helps a lot."
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoEMAW on October 03, 2013, 02:13:56 PM
Didn't we run a fake punt to him? Or at least just throw a deep bomb to him to get a PI call?

Jesus man, you trying to get us all sent home early? Just google it, bud.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
I remember in 2001 using Sproles and hall in the old school service Academy option w/ Sproles starting at wingback and going in motion and then we'd fake or hand off to Hall and then run the option with Sproles.

I think?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 02:18:21 PM
crazy thought: 2001 was 12 years ago. :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2013, 02:28:56 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm)



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks, CF3, you beat me to it. Flawless googling. Did you remember that one though? Man, that was awesome, huh. We may be dating ourselves a bit though!  :lol:

I remembered it. I had to look up if it was Eastern Illinois or ULM though. It was in the NEZ, no folding chairs that game, just grassy hill.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 03, 2013, 02:29:44 PM
I remember in 2001 using Sproles and hall in the old school service Academy option w/ Sproles starting at wingback and going in motion and then we'd fake or hand off to Hall and then run the option with Sproles.

I think?

That's a trickier one to google
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 03, 2013, 02:32:37 PM
I remember in 2001 using Sproles and hall in the old school service Academy option w/ Sproles starting at wingback and going in motion and then we'd fake or hand off to Hall and then run the option with Sproles.

I think?

We did something like that with Sproles/Hall. I don't think it was flexbone though, I believe Sproles ran jet motion and then the hand to Saba, but I don't remember exactly.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: mocat on October 03, 2013, 02:33:04 PM
you guys, this time i was just joking i promise
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoEMAW on October 03, 2013, 02:34:52 PM
Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm)



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks, CF3, you beat me to it. Flawless googling. Did you remember that one though? Man, that was awesome, huh. We may be dating ourselves a bit though!  :lol:

I remembered it. I had to look up if it was Eastern Illinois or ULM though. It was in the NEZ, no folding chairs that game, just grassy hill.

Speaking of...lol at Romo's 3 ints. That son of a bitch hasn't changed a bit!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: hatingfrancisco on October 03, 2013, 02:40:10 PM
DERAILED  :dubious:  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: TownieCat on October 03, 2013, 02:41:43 PM
Remember when we pulled Sproles' redshirt 6 games into the season and wasted his freshman year on 28 carries?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 03, 2013, 02:45:14 PM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.

I'd like that to be true, and I'd be ecstatic if a couple of those non-QB plays went for good yardage. Unfortunately, I don't see either of those things happening.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 03, 2013, 02:50:35 PM
Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

That's the thing about Sams getting snaps at another position.  In theory it's great to get him on the field more, but who here is confident it will yield game-changing results? If the package isn't a little more creative than Sams on a jet sweep or quick out or decoy, what's really the point.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: KITNfury on October 03, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Motion from obvious passing formation to Sams at QB (from slot) and completely fool the defenses with the run or pass* option.



















*pffft
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 03, 2013, 05:48:19 PM
The only good part about this thread was finding out that that rough ridin' loser Dorian Roberts won't play that much.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 05:56:11 PM
The only good part about this thread was finding out that that rough ridin' loser Dorian Roberts won't play that much.

yes, that was good
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rams on October 03, 2013, 06:54:49 PM
I could resign myself to not having sams get most of the qb snaps (and I'll obviously have too).  whatever it takes to get him off the sidelines. I think I've realized that it's not so much that he's not playing, it's that he has to pace around on the sidelines like a cheetah that's been confined to a 5x5 cage. it's not easy to watch. he deserves better.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 03, 2013, 06:56:55 PM
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Sams starts the game at QB and wings it around on our first three possessions. :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 03, 2013, 06:57:05 PM
I could resign myself to not having sams get most of the qb snaps (and I'll obviously have too).  whatever it takes to get him off the sidelines. I think I've realized that it's not so much that he's not playing, it's that he has to pace around on the sidelines like a cheetah that's been confined to a 5x5 cage. it's not easy to watch. he deserves better.

don't resign yourself. why be a pussy when it's perfectly fine to be pissed off and call people rough ridin' idiots for being rough ridin' idiots? are you just tired? beaten down?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: mocat on October 03, 2013, 07:19:37 PM
I could resign myself to not having sams get most of the qb snaps (and I'll obviously have too).  whatever it takes to get him off the sidelines. I think I've realized that it's not so much that he's not playing, it's that he has to pace around on the sidelines like a cheetah that's been confined to a 5x5 cage. it's not easy to watch. he deserves better.

don't resign yourself. why be a pussy when it's perfectly fine to be pissed off and call people rough ridin' idiots for being rough ridin' idiots? are you just tired? beaten down?

Yeah Rams rough ridin' earn your avatar
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 03, 2013, 07:20:55 PM
Man zacker really melted down today

Ts and ps bud
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Sams starts the game at QB and wings it around on our first three possessions. :ROFL:

I would have a huge grin on my face the entire time because I really like winning football games.
Title: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Tobias on October 03, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Sams starts the game at QB and wings it around on our first three possessions. :ROFL:

I would have a huge grin on my face the entire time because I really like winning football games.

i would do a  <<redacted>>.gif all the way to the beer fridge
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 03, 2013, 09:33:49 PM
The only good part about this thread was finding out that that rough ridin' loser Dorian Roberts won't play that much.

What's hilarious is that he isn't the worst starting CB in the conference.  This dude from UT couldn't stay in front of The Fridge.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 03, 2013, 11:56:59 PM
Man zacker really melted down today

Ts and ps bud

:jerk:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: mocat on October 04, 2013, 12:31:49 AM
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Sams starts the game at QB and wings it around on our first three possessions. :ROFL:

I would have a huge grin on my face the entire time because I really like winning football games.

i would do a jesse pinkman final episode in the car getaway.gif all the way to the beer fridge

You son of a bitch
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: lopakman on October 04, 2013, 12:52:58 AM
Man zacker really melted down today

Ts and ps bud

Zacker is a good guy, we were in the same fraternity together (The real best fraternity, sorry not DU)  He's always been passionate about K-State football and was pretty much on point today.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2013, 06:56:47 AM

You son of a bitch

I try to reserve my facepalms, but holy crap that's a :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: on my part
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 04, 2013, 07:24:05 AM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.

I would be fine with Waters playing QB during garbage time in the 4th quarter when we have a double digit lead.
NO! After throwing 70 yard bombs all game long and running for 9 touchdowns with multiple foot plants, the garbage time will be for working on the dink and dunk game. Sams needs to get the reps in so he can dink and dunk better than Waters.

OSU has a history of playing dirty when things go south, and I'd rather let Waters trot out there to get sketti'd so we can have Sams next week to maybe beat Baylor.

Why do you think that is?   Could it be that there's so much red ass in their fan base (I mean, way more red ass than what exists in our fan base and that's really saying something) that it seeps into the coaching staff and then translates into dirty play by the players.   I mean Gundy and Ford sitting over biscuits and gravy at the diner.  Wow

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 07:34:28 AM
Man zacker really melted down today

Ts and ps bud

Zacker is a good guy, we were in the same fraternity together (The real best fraternity, sorry not DU)  He's always been passionate about K-State football and was pretty much on point today.

Oh it wasn't a jab, it just seems like he is making this personal
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2013, 07:38:51 AM
football season zacker is the best message boarder this place has.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: p1k3 on October 04, 2013, 07:40:28 AM
football season zacker is the best message boarder this place has.

a true MVP (most valuable poster)
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 07:42:22 AM
So back to the topic at hand.....and this isn't inside info but my source has sensed some frustration with the tight ends basically being an afterthought so hopefully that changes as well. We need to run the seam play at least three times a game
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: OK_Cat on October 04, 2013, 07:50:03 AM

You son of a bitch

I try to reserve my facepalms, but holy crap that's a :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: on my part

eff that, it's been almost a week.  you don't have to keep it quiet because some n00b is behind on his dvr.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: deputy dawg on October 04, 2013, 08:09:07 AM
Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.
You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.

I would be fine with Waters playing QB during garbage time in the 4th quarter when we have a double digit lead.
NO! After throwing 70 yard bombs all game long and running for 9 touchdowns with multiple foot plants, the garbage time will be for working on the dink and dunk game. Sams needs to get the reps in so he can dink and dunk better than Waters.

OSU has a history of playing dirty when things go south, and I'd rather let Waters trot out there to get sketti'd so we can have Sams next week to maybe beat Baylor.

Why do you think that is?   Could it be that there's so much red ass in their fan base (I mean, way more red ass than what exists in our fan base and that's really saying something) that it seeps into the coaching staff and then translates into dirty play by the players.   I mean Gundy and Ford sitting over biscuits and gravy at the diner.  Wow

Grew up on the Oklahoma border.  You have no idea of what redneck is until you go into rural Oklahoma, makes Missouri and West Virginia look like erudite elites by comparison.  More like Gundy and Ford downing Buds out at the pole barn. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 04, 2013, 08:35:01 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Winters on October 04, 2013, 08:35:33 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
:frown:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 08:36:30 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.

That sucks
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rams on October 04, 2013, 08:37:08 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
ask him what's wrong and report back. we'll get him through this together.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 04, 2013, 08:38:26 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Good scoop, but needs more meat. Either find out, or get him to post here.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 08:40:02 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Good scoop, but needs more meat. Either find out, or get him to post here.

It's been known since the first post of this thread dobber
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 08:42:26 AM
So back to the topic at hand.....and this isn't inside info but my source has sensed some frustration with the tight ends basically being an afterthought so hopefully that changes as well. We need to run the seam play at least three times a game

Maybe they should quit blocking like its an afterthought.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 8manpick on October 04, 2013, 08:47:28 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Good scoop, but needs more meat. Either find out, or get him to post here.

It's been known since the first post of this thread dobber


If you think this:
Quote from: first post of this thread
If we don't see Tramaine this weekend (or next) it has nothing to do with his comments after the Texas game.
has meat, then I don't think you even know what meat is.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kostakio on October 04, 2013, 08:48:27 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
ask him what's wrong and report back. we'll get him through this together.

Also ask him why he's a 5th year senior and just now taking stats.  Is it at least stats II? 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 04, 2013, 08:56:30 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
ask him what's wrong and report back. we'll get him through this together.

Also ask him why he's a 5th year senior and just now taking stats.  Is it at least stats II?
:lol: no, Stat 350 which is an introduction. It's a pre-req for a lot of classes though.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 04, 2013, 08:56:48 AM
So back to the topic at hand.....and this isn't inside info but my source has sensed some frustration with the tight ends basically being an afterthought so hopefully that changes as well. We need to run the seam play at least three times a game

Maybe they should quit blocking like its an afterthought.

damn, that's a pretty great FAN_burn
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 04, 2013, 08:59:21 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
ask him what's wrong and report back. we'll get him through this together.

Also ask him why he's a 5th year senior and just now taking stats.  Is it at least stats II?
:lol: no, Stat 350 which is an introduction. It's a pre-req for a lot of classes though.
Getting an early start on the Second Wind program. :dunno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 04, 2013, 09:16:37 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Good scoop, but needs more meat. Either find out, or get him to post here.

It's been known since the first post of this thread dobber


If you think this:
Quote from: first post of this thread
If we don't see Tramaine this weekend (or next) it has nothing to do with his comments after the Texas game.
has meat, then I don't think you even know what meat is.
8MP, thanks for taking care of this one.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 09:35:37 AM
Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Good scoop, but needs more meat. Either find out, or get him to post here.

It's been known since the first post of this thread dobber


If you think this:
Quote from: first post of this thread
If we don't see Tramaine this weekend (or next) it has nothing to do with his comments after the Texas game.
has meat, then I don't think you even know what meat is.
8MP, thanks for taking care of this one.

Happy birthday
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 04, 2013, 09:41:50 AM

Tremaine is in my stats class and he looks really sad/rejected guys.
Good scoop, but needs more meat. Either find out, or get him to post here.

It's been known since the first post of this thread dobber


If you think this:
Quote from: first post of this thread
If we don't see Tramaine this weekend (or next) it has nothing to do with his comments after the Texas game.
has meat, then I don't think you even know what meat is.
8MP, thanks for taking care of this one.

Happy birthday
Lol


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 04, 2013, 09:48:04 AM
Man zacker really melted down today

Ts and ps bud

Zacker is a good guy, we were in the same fraternity together (The real best fraternity, sorry not DU)  He's always been passionate about K-State football and was pretty much on point today.

pfffft,  :blank:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 04, 2013, 10:07:24 AM
So back to the topic at hand.....and this isn't inside info but my source has sensed some frustration with the tight ends basically being an afterthought so hopefully that changes as well. We need to run the seam play at least three times a game

Maybe they should quit blocking like its an afterthought.

I wonder if butt-fumbling Waters' inept running ability has anything to do with our blocking suckage.  I mean, maybe Klein inspired guys to hold their blocks and get down field.  And, with Waters, guys are just like, "meh, eff it."
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 10:10:18 AM
I wonder if butt-fumbling Waters' inept running ability has anything to do with our blocking suckage.  I mean, maybe Klein inspired guys to hold their blocks and get down field.  And, with Waters, guys are just like, "meh, eff it."

Maybe a very little bit, but I think this talking point is a reach. We have guys that just often get blown up at the point of attack and if they really have that mentality this team is done anyway, no matter who plays quarterback.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Skipper44 on October 04, 2013, 10:11:50 AM
So back to the topic at hand.....and this isn't inside info but my source has sensed some frustration with the tight ends basically being an afterthought so hopefully that changes as well. We need to run the seam play at least three times a game

Maybe they should quit blocking like its an afterthought.

I wonder if butt-fumbling Waters' inept running ability has anything to do with our blocking suckage.  I mean, maybe Klein inspired guys to hold their blocks and get down field.  And, with Waters, guys are just like, "meh, eff it."
I can imagine the film sessions when they coaches are into the OL and TEs for not holding blocks and the QB that "moves well" and "runs better than you think" is curling into the fetal position on the screen before contact.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 04, 2013, 10:20:54 AM
I wonder if butt-fumbling Waters' inept running ability has anything to do with our blocking suckage.  I mean, maybe Klein inspired guys to hold their blocks and get down field.  And, with Waters, guys are just like, "meh, eff it."

Maybe a very little bit, but I think this talking point is a reach. We have guys that just often get blown up at the point of attack and if they really have that mentality this team is done anyway, no matter who plays quarterback.

I think the team mentality is a wreck, starting at the top.  Not to rehash the Snyds Dimentia debate, but his post-game comments and in-game management indicate that he's pretty much just checked out.  And, basically, with our on-field leaders gone and all of our coaches collecting social security, we've got no voice leading this group of 18-22 year olds.   

Maybe the team mentality would improve if a team leader like Sams was, like, leading the team at QB.  TT's quotes are obviously indicative.  But, it also seems like the players play harder when he's in the game. 

The psychology of sports can't be understated.  We need to mix something up.  these dudes are playing lazy, unfocused, unmotivated football.  Basically, the only guy I've seen show any fire, is Sams.   
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 10:28:49 AM
There had to be a legit reason why our line sucks, I mean how do you go from last year to now? Can 5-7 guys really take that big of a step back at the same time? I'm not buying it. And don't say it was all Klein because hubes has sucked this year and was a 1000 yd (almost) back last year
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 04, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
There had to be a legit reason why our line sucks, I mean how do you go from last year to now? Can 5-7 guys really take that big of a step back at the same time? I'm not buying it. And don't say it was all Klein because hubes has sucked this year and was a 1000 yd (almost) back last year

1 – effort/technique: I hate to say this cause it isn’t quantifiable or whatever, but they are just getting flat out beat and have been in every game this year.  It’s quite absurd actually.  They look awful.
2 – QB:  an actual dual threat QB puts particular pressure on an opposing defense – backside LB’s/DE’s have to hold a second, safeties have to press the LOS, DE’s can’t get so far up the field that they create running lanes, etc. all of which give an OL more time to get to the next level, better blocking angles, etc.
3 – They were never anything but good:  the OL was good, but never really as great as most make them out to be.  They had problems with active DL fronts, especially when they shifted, had a lot of trouble with simple twists – and kind of buckled on blitz pick ups (it’s just that teams didn’t do it as much because they were afraid of CK tucking and running).
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Benja on October 04, 2013, 10:48:59 AM
Also was told that this is a package/packages and if we get down quick not to expect it

Welp
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 10:54:37 AM
There had to be a legit reason why our line sucks, I mean how do you go from last year to now? Can 5-7 guys really take that big of a step back at the same time? I'm not buying it. And don't say it was all Klein because hubes has sucked this year and was a 1000 yd (almost) back last year

1 – effort/technique: I hate to say this cause it isn’t quantifiable or whatever, but they are just getting flat out beat and have been in every game this year.  It’s quite absurd actually.  They look awful.
2 – QB:  an actual dual threat QB puts particular pressure on an opposing defense – backside LB’s/DE’s have to hold a second, safeties have to press the LOS, DE’s can’t get so far up the field that they create running lanes, etc. all of which give an OL more time to get to the next level, better blocking angles, etc.
3 – They were never anything but good:  the OL was good, but never really as great as most make them out to be.  They had problems with active DL fronts, especially when they shifted, had a lot of trouble with simple twists – and kind of buckled on blitz pick ups (it’s just that teams didn’t do it as much because they were afraid of CK tucking and running).


All good points.

And last year in only 2 of our last 8 games did we average over 4 yards per carry.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 04, 2013, 10:57:09 AM
zacker and _Fan,
Could one of you call out a couple of linemen in particular that are sucking this year? I haven't been able to rewatch any of the games, but I really would like to know. PM me if you don't want to call them out on the blog.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 11:00:55 AM
zacker and _Fan,
Could one of you call out a couple of linemen in particular that are sucking this year? I haven't been able to rewatch any of the games, but I really would like to know. PM me if you don't want to call them out on the blog.

Well, I've called out the TE and to a lesser extent the FB at times. When I look at just OL, Rooks stands out, but all of them seem to have their moments. Losing Stiverson probably didn't help either, he had moved up to be a 1 on the depth chart when he got hurt.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 8manpick on October 04, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
There had to be a legit reason why our line sucks, I mean how do you go from last year to now? Can 5-7 guys really take that big of a step back at the same time? I'm not buying it. And don't say it was all Klein because hubes has sucked this year and was a 1000 yd (almost) back last year

1 – effort/technique: I hate to say this cause it isn’t quantifiable or whatever, but they are just getting flat out beat and have been in every game this year.  It’s quite absurd actually.  They look awful.
2 – QB:  an actual dual threat QB puts particular pressure on an opposing defense – backside LB’s/DE’s have to hold a second, safeties have to press the LOS, DE’s can’t get so far up the field that they create running lanes, etc. all of which give an OL more time to get to the next level, better blocking angles, etc.
3 – They were never anything but good:  the OL was good, but never really as great as most make them out to be.  They had problems with active DL fronts, especially when they shifted, had a lot of trouble with simple twists – and kind of buckled on blitz pick ups (it’s just that teams didn’t do it as much because they were afraid of CK tucking and running).


All good points.

And last year in only 2 of our last 8 games did we average over 4 yards per carry.

Good God. Is that counting QB sacks as negative rushes or just designed runs and scrambles?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 04, 2013, 11:04:18 AM
zacker and _Fan,
Could one of you call out a couple of linemen in particular that are sucking this year? I haven't been able to rewatch any of the games, but I really would like to know. PM me if you don't want to call them out on the blog.

Well, I've called out the TE and to a lesser extent the FB at times. When I look at just OL, Rooks stands out, but all of them seem to have their moments. Losing Stiverson probably didn't help either, he had moved up to be a 1 on the depth chart when he got hurt.
Thanks _Fan. I am buddies with Whitehair's dad (who was also at our tailgate in Austin, which was really awesome) and I was hoping he wasn't the first one you listed.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 04, 2013, 11:09:48 AM
IMO, Lucas has sucked something awful all season.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 11:20:00 AM
Also have had no real want to rewatch the games this year but what olineman is tipping plays? I keep hearing that from last year but apparently it isn't fixed
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: catzacker on October 04, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Also have had no real want to rewatch the games this year but what olineman is tipping plays? I keep hearing that from last year but apparently it isn't fixed

it was last year, i believe it was lucas' outside foot position.  back and it was a pass, not as back and it was a run. something like that.  i would have thought since this was well known it would have been addressed.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
Thanks _Fan. I am buddies with Whitehair's dad (who was also at our tailgate in Austin, which was really awesome) and I was hoping he wasn't the first one you listed.

I'd say Finney is probably our most consistent and Whitehair would be a close 2nd, then Lucas.

Good God. Is that counting QB sacks as negative rushes or just designed runs and scrambles?

It includes everything. FWIW, we only had 12 sacks for -81 yards in those 8 games.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: deputy dawg on October 04, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Quote
I can imagine the film sessions when they coaches are into the OL and TEs for not holding blocks and the QB that "moves well" and "runs better than you think" is curling into the fetal position on the screen before contact.

Pretty harsh burn right there.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 11:33:09 AM
Quote
I can imagine the film sessions when they coaches are into the OL and TEs for not holding blocks and the QB that "moves well" and "runs better than you think" is curling into the fetal position on the screen before contact.

Pretty harsh burn right there.

I'm a big boy, I can handle it.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 04, 2013, 11:33:47 AM
Lil Gronk has really sucked it up to.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 04, 2013, 11:35:27 AM
Also have had no real want to rewatch the games this year but what olineman is tipping plays? I keep hearing that from last year but apparently it isn't fixed

it was last year, i believe it was lucas' outside foot position.  back and it was a pass, not as back and it was a run. something like that.  i would have thought since this was well known it would have been addressed.

Fire dickey if it's still happening
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 04, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
Lil Gronk has really sucked it up to.
What's his 40 time? Any chance we should at least take Jake's carries and give them to Gronk? I mean, if Gronk is scoring touchdowns, dobber is going to be  :emawkid:
Can Gronk play QB?
I mean, I am just throwing darts at this point, but there has to be something fun we can do if the dumb-asses that be aren't going to give #life a chance.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 04, 2013, 11:43:18 AM
gronk can definitely play QB
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2013, 11:48:04 AM
gronk can definitely play QB

I'm sure he has a solid understanding of the playbook.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 04, 2013, 11:51:06 AM
what olineman is tipping plays?

haha.  our staff is tipping the plays.  #15 passes.  #4 runs.  Scheme it.   
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Skipper44 on October 04, 2013, 11:54:30 AM
Quote
I can imagine the film sessions when they coaches are into the OL and TEs for not holding blocks and the QB that "moves well" and "runs better than you think" is curling into the fetal position on the screen before contact.

Pretty harsh burn right there.

I'm a big boy, I can handle it.
the quote parts were not really a shot at FAN but at the comments from Joey Harrington and other tv types that I assume came straight from this staff.

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 11:57:12 AM
the quote parts were not really a shot at FAN but at the comments from Joey Harrington and other tv types that I assume came straight from this staff.

Fair enough. I know that I have said similar things and I'll claim it.

Based on what I anticipated, I'd say Waters is worse at running, better at throwing, and much worse at TOs than I thought going into the season.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Skipper44 on October 04, 2013, 11:58:43 AM

1 – effort/technique: I hate to say this cause it isn’t quantifiable or whatever, but they are just getting flat out beat and have been in every game this year.  It’s quite absurd actually.  They look awful.
2 – QB:  an actual dual threat QB puts particular pressure on an opposing defense – backside LB’s/DE’s have to hold a second, safeties have to press the LOS, DE’s can’t get so far up the field that they create running lanes, etc. all of which give an OL more time to get to the next level, better blocking angles, etc.
3 – They were never anything but good:  the OL was good, but never really as great as most make them out to be.  They had problems with active DL fronts, especially when they shifted, had a lot of trouble with simple twists – and kind of buckled on blitz pick ups (it’s just that teams didn’t do it as much because they were afraid of CK tucking and running).
These points are exactly why having a dual threat is great, especially for a team taking 2 and 3 star project olineman and coaching them up.  One could go on and discuss how the threat of a big run by QB also helps undersized and/or slow WRs get open but we have all seen it for decades.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 04, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 04, 2013, 12:09:46 PM
having a good dual threat move the chains and eat clock also helps keep our crap defense off the field.  It's a lot easier to "bend not break" when the offense has the ball +50% of the time.

If you want a great example of how to unsuccessfully implement a pro-style passing offense with subpar talent, look at KU.  If you've got subpar talent (KSU), you need to run the ball, slow down the game, eat clock and not turn it over.  Basically, KSU 2012-13.  Or, in other words, the exact opposite of KSU 2013-14.     

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Belvis Noland on October 04, 2013, 12:10:17 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

DJamer Wally doesn't think.  That's his problem. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 04, 2013, 12:12:25 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

well thats just stuff only his hard hitting reporting and comprehensive interviewing can conclude. the rest of us are all in the dark without wally.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: lopakman on October 04, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

DJamer Wally doesn't think.  That's his problem.

That's just one of his problems.  There's personality, ego, arrogance,  self-destruction etc.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 04, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: felix rex on October 04, 2013, 01:12:55 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

I heard that Lucas keeps eating the leftover spaghetti that Rooks brings from home on Sundays and he asked Finney about it but Finney told him that he should lay off the carbs anyway and scolded him for not sharing with Stiverson, who really needs a friend right now because he always feels left out during the DDR parties in the evenings.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 04, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rams on October 04, 2013, 01:25:14 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
did you see Lucas yell at his face and slam his helmet down right after the butt fumble before they cut to commercial?  I was all :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 04, 2013, 01:26:41 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

I heard that Lucas keeps eating the leftover spaghetti that Rooks brings from home on Sundays and he asked Finney about it but Finney told him that he should lay off the carbs anyway and scolded him for not sharing with Stiverson, who really needs a friend right now because he always feels left out during the DDR parties in the evenings.

this, this is great.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 04, 2013, 01:33:02 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
did you see Lucas yell at his face and slam his helmet down right after the butt fumble before they cut to commercial?  I was all :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xyFe5QyFTlE#t=8954
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: SeanSnyder4Prez on October 04, 2013, 01:39:20 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
did you see Lucas yell at his face and slam his helmet down right after the butt fumble before they cut to commercial?  I was all :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xyFe5QyFTlE#t=8954
"DAMN, DAWG"
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 04, 2013, 01:46:27 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
did you see Lucas yell at his face and slam his helmet down right after the butt fumble before they cut to commercial?  I was all :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xyFe5QyFTlE#t=8954

The worst part of all this (by far) is Waters' immediate reaction.  Guys scrambling for the ball and shoving and Waters just watches the replay, puts his head down and walks off. No leadership, no fire, no reaction.  Nothing.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 04, 2013, 01:50:13 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
did you see Lucas yell at his face and slam his helmet down right after the butt fumble before they cut to commercial?  I was all :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xyFe5QyFTlE#t=8954

The worst part of all this (by far) is Waters' immediate reaction.  Guys scrambling for the ball and shoving and Waters just watches the replay, puts his head down and walks off. No leadership, no fire, no reaction.  Nothing.
Is Ertz the same way?  I mean he's from Iowa too, right?  :runaway:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 04, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.
did you see Lucas yell at his face and slam his helmet down right after the butt fumble before they cut to commercial?  I was all :horrorsurprise: :emawkid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xyFe5QyFTlE#t=8954

The worst part of all this (by far) is Waters' immediate reaction.  Guys scrambling for the ball and shoving and Waters just watches the replay, puts his head down and walks off. No leadership, no fire, no reaction.  Nothing.

THE WORST
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: michigancat on October 04, 2013, 02:10:19 PM
I give zero shits about leadership or fire.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 04, 2013, 02:20:27 PM
Just looking at his face pisses me off.  He hasn't done anything in these games to make anyone think he should be starting.  But here he is. . .
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 04, 2013, 02:21:44 PM
I give zero shits about leadership or fire.

Loses game deciding fumble, gives zero fucks, walks away and stares into the vast distance doesn't cut it from the most important (from a talent and leadership standpoint) player on your team. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: AppleJack on October 04, 2013, 02:22:21 PM
How is everyone doing this afternoon?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: eastcat on October 04, 2013, 02:51:01 PM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

Lucas hates Waters and isn't afraid to tell him he sucks. That's been pretty obvious on the field. As far as mentality, going from the toughest mother rough rider you'd ever want to block for to Waters must be pretty jarring for the line.  Losing lots of games to shitty teams probably wears on you too.

Maybe Lucas could grow a pair instead of looking for someone to follow like a lost puppy. Oh well, his draft pick slide is going to be ugly.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: SleepFighter on October 04, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
I give zero shits about leadership or fire.

Loses game deciding fumble, gives zero fucks, walks away and stares into the vast distance doesn't cut it from the most important (from a talent and leadership standpoint) player on your team.

Actual worst part of this sequence in bold.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 04, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
How is everyone doing this afternoon?

Pretty good.  How 'bout yourself?  :)
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
Tramaine has mono, right?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 04, 2013, 11:28:46 PM
Tramaine has mono, right?

Saw him on campus Thursday. Don't think it's mono.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2013, 11:38:53 PM
Tramaine has mono, right?

Saw him on campus Thursday. Don't think it's mono.

Did he look hurt?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 05, 2013, 06:28:22 AM
Whatever happened to the really good inside information that I used to be able to find on goEMAW.com? I am thinking about canceling my premium subscription.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Lefty on October 05, 2013, 06:32:41 AM
I give zero shits about leadership or fire.

Can you elaborate on your context here? I'm trying to decide how stupid of a comment this is.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 05, 2013, 07:44:01 AM
DJamer Wally thinks the OL problems are due to personality conflicts - the tackles are extroverted rah-rah guys, the guards are introverts, and Finney is the mom.

I loved this.   Lol
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: ksu_funny33 on October 05, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
 Nothing that hasn't been mentioned, but Thompson does have mono so he's out for about a month and Sams will be playing wr today.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 05, 2013, 01:38:22 PM
We have 1 receiver, no good rb, no threat to run at qb, a mediocre, poor passing blocking OL and a terrible defense which cannot pass rush and is especially susceptible at cornerback. I don't really know how you can predict a close game.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sunny_cat on October 05, 2013, 01:59:52 PM
 :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kim carnes on October 05, 2013, 02:21:12 PM
We have 1 receiver, no good rb, no threat to run at qb, a mediocre, poor passing blocking OL and a terrible defense which cannot pass rush and is especially susceptible at cornerback. I don't really know how you can predict a close game.

its called delusion
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 05, 2013, 02:21:35 PM
6 weeks for mono my ass
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 05, 2013, 06:52:54 PM
is it true that TT has mono or did bill just handicap the offense/special teams and keep the senior from playing his last game in his home state because he is a deranged old man with a god complex? sad either way.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kim carnes on October 05, 2013, 06:53:30 PM
is it true that TT has mono or did bill just handicap the offense/special teams and keep the senior from playing his last game in his home state because he is a deranged old man with a god complex? sad either way.

its the latter
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 05, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
is it true that TT has mono or did bill just handicap the offense/special teams and keep the senior from playing his last game in his home state because he is a deranged old man with a god complex? sad either way.

its the latter
your the latter
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 05, 2013, 06:57:50 PM
I hope it's just Bill being an bad person. We need Thompson back and if it's mono, he's going to be gone for awhile.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 05, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
So BSAC, why isn't he playing?  Chris Harper was raising hell on twitter. tia
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 05, 2013, 07:05:13 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 05, 2013, 07:12:48 PM
ok n/m

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So he really does have mono lol I was WRONG!!! #kstate
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 05, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
ok n/m
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Chris Harper ?@THEChrisHarper 3s
So he really does have mono lol I was WRONG!!! #kstate

that's a shame. also a shame that i don't trust any of the current players or media as much as i trust chris.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2013, 09:09:07 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?

I told you dummies already. Why wouldn't he travel with mono?

I'm not going to do it for you but there is a very real potential life/death reason why football players shouldn't play with momo, look it up.

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kim carnes on October 05, 2013, 09:10:29 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?

I told you dummies already. Why wouldn't he travel with mono?

I'm not going to do it for you but there is a very real potential life/death reason why football players shouldn't play with momo, look it up.

he doesn't have mono though.  he spoke his mind.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 05, 2013, 09:12:27 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?

I told you dummies already. Why wouldn't he travel with mono?

I'm not going to do it for you but there is a very real potential life/death reason why football players shouldn't play with momo, look it up.

Exactly my point. He should be in bed eating chicken noodle soup and sipping a 7-up.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?

I told you dummies already. Why wouldn't he travel with mono?

I'm not going to do it for you but there is a very real potential life/death reason why football players shouldn't play with momo, look it up.

Exactly my point. He should be in bed eating chicken noodle soup and sipping a 7-up.

I think you need to discover webmd or wikipedia
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?

I told you dummies already. Why wouldn't he travel with mono?

I'm not going to do it for you but there is a very real potential life/death reason why football players shouldn't play with momo, look it up.

he doesn't have mono though.  he spoke his mind.

Yeah its pretty common for suspended players to travel and be on the bench. Also Harper knows these things not sure why he was being a moron on twitter today. I guess he needed any chance he saw to lash out on OBz
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 05, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
if someone told me that bill poisoned TT with mono, i would probably believe them.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kim carnes on October 05, 2013, 09:24:20 PM
Why the eff would he travel if he has mono?

I told you dummies already. Why wouldn't he travel with mono?

I'm not going to do it for you but there is a very real potential life/death reason why football players shouldn't play with momo, look it up.

he doesn't have mono though.  he spoke his mind.

Yeah its pretty common for suspended players to travel and be on the bench. Also Harper knows these things not sure why he was being a moron on twitter today. I guess he needed any chance he saw to lash out on OBz

it is if you want to lie about why he is sitting out
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 06, 2013, 12:14:47 PM
what in the actual eff?
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 06, 2013, 03:18:18 PM
Tucks love bill and hate the team. Just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sunny_cat on October 06, 2013, 03:25:03 PM
Tucks love bill and hate the team. Just doesn't make sense.

Yes it does make sense. :opcat:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EuroCat on October 06, 2013, 04:26:56 PM
Without the proper hydration and rest mono can turn into a nasty eye hernia.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: ednksu on October 06, 2013, 04:35:15 PM
jfc those "fans" need to be stomped out
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sunny_cat on October 06, 2013, 04:45:31 PM
Without the proper hydration and rest mono can turn into a nasty eye hernia.

Never know what someone might find in the trash.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 06, 2013, 08:49:56 PM
Do these people ever wake up and realize that they were wrong? How does that make them feel? This would make an interesting case study for our ol' pal Blump.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2013, 08:50:08 PM
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 06, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
omg. it's heart wrenching, but at the same time i want to admire it for it's ability to tell me more than any amount of words ever could.

#fyjc #fybs
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
omg. it's heart wrenching, but at the same time i want to admire it for it's ability to tell me more than any amount of words ever could.

#fyjc #fybs

Beware of the Evil behind the Smiling Eyes
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Tobias on October 06, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
kinda creeps me out
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
kinda creeps me out

It is Halloween month.

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 09, 2013, 09:43:48 AM
I didn't see this posted.

Tramaine Thompson ?@TripleEffinT 7 Oct
Good lord im not in trouble everyone relax. If u dont kno what ur talking about then shush up lol. Im a good kid im not in the dog house
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 09, 2013, 09:45:02 AM
I didn't see this posted.

Tramaine Thompson ?@TripleEffinT 7 Oct
Good lord im not in trouble everyone relax. If u dont kno what ur talking about then shush up lol. Im a good kid im not in the dog house

why doesn't every KSU fan come here and read BSAC stuff and accept it as fact? it's, like, there are a ton of idiot KSU fans out there.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 09, 2013, 09:45:40 AM
I didn't see this posted.

Tramaine Thompson ?@TripleEffinT 7 Oct
Good lord im not in trouble everyone relax. If u dont kno what ur talking about then shush up lol. Im a good kid im not in the dog house

why doesn't every KSU fan come here and read BSAC stuff and accept it as fact? it's, like, there are a ton of idiot KSU fans out there.

Everyone has lots of idiot fans, but do we have more? :dunno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 09, 2013, 09:58:04 AM
I didn't see this posted.

Tramaine Thompson ?@TripleEffinT 7 Oct
Good lord im not in trouble everyone relax. If u dont kno what ur talking about then shush up lol. Im a good kid im not in the dog house

why doesn't every KSU fan come here and read BSAC stuff and accept it as fact? it's, like, there are a ton of idiot KSU fans out there.

Everyone has lots of idiot fans, but do we have more? :dunno:

Don't know how it is everywhere, but it seems a lot of our fans enjoy being willfully ignorant.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: puniraptor on October 09, 2013, 10:01:05 AM
dont be talking bad on chris you guys
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 09, 2013, 10:08:49 AM
bsac probably needs to be on facebook and attach tthompson updates like this to pics of his kids and what his wife made him for dinner. that would get the word out.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 09, 2013, 10:11:44 AM
always pictured bsac as more of a penthouse type guy.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 09, 2013, 10:15:05 AM
always pictured bsac as more of a penthouse type guy.  :dunno:

true story alert***

irl, bsac is married to my sister. that's how i got to be a mod.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 09, 2013, 10:16:09 AM
always pictured bsac as more of a penthouse type guy.  :dunno:

true story alert***

irl, bsac is married to my sister. that's how i got to be a mod.

Are they still doing the "open" marriage thing?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 09, 2013, 10:16:53 AM
always pictured bsac as more of a penthouse type guy.  :dunno:

true story alert***

irl, bsac is married to my sister. that's how i got to be a mod.

Are they still doing the "open" marriage thing?

 :flush:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 09, 2013, 10:20:29 AM
always pictured bsac as more of a penthouse type guy.  :dunno:

true story alert***

irl, bsac is married to my sister. that's how i got to be a mod.

Are they still doing the "open" marriage thing?

 :flush:

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 09, 2013, 10:26:26 AM
always pictured bsac as more of a penthouse type guy.  :dunno:

true story alert***

irl, bsac is married to my sister. that's how i got to be a mod.

Are they still doing the "open" marriage thing?

 :flush:

 :dunno:


i had my other sister talk to her about what you're referring to and she said the incident/episode/whatever you want to call it never happened. also, there is a pm function for discussions like this. maybe use it next time.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Bill Clarahan on October 09, 2013, 10:31:37 AM
I didn't see this posted.

Tramaine Thompson ?@TripleEffinT 7 Oct
Good lord im not in trouble everyone relax. If u dont kno what ur talking about then shush up lol. Im a good kid im not in the dog house

why doesn't every KSU fan come here and read BSAC stuff and accept it as fact? it's, like, there are a ton of idiot KSU fans out there.

Everyone has lots of idiot fans, but do we have more? :dunno:



Without a doubt :Carl:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 09, 2013, 11:01:22 AM
I didn't see this posted.

Tramaine Thompson ?@TripleEffinT 7 Oct
Good lord im not in trouble everyone relax. If u dont kno what ur talking about then shush up lol. Im a good kid im not in the dog house

why doesn't every KSU fan come here and read BSAC stuff and accept it as fact? it's, like, there are a ton of idiot KSU fans out there.

Everyone has lots of idiot fans, but do we have more? :dunno:
Our stadium only holds ~50,000+, so my answer is "absolutely: no, relatively: yes"
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cire on October 09, 2013, 11:38:21 AM
i think per capita we have more dumb fans.  small school and all
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 09, 2013, 11:55:16 AM
i think per capita we have more dumb fans.  small school and all

the number of dumb fans will obviously decline as we move towards 2025. natural selection will pick off the dumbest fans and we will graduate more smart fans.

circle of life, you guys. were getting smarter fans every single day.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 09, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
There's one dude that could use some natural selection for sure.  You in the NEZ probably know who I'm talking about...
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: SEK_EMAW on October 09, 2013, 12:26:52 PM
i think per capita we have more dumb fans.  small school and all

Are you counting t-shirt fans as 'fans'?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
our fans are smater than ku's.

so there's that.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: eastcat on October 09, 2013, 07:40:02 PM
I don't care about the intelligence of our fans. I just want more of them.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 10, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
if you guys would listen to the gopowercat podcast you would know that tremaine DOESN'T HAVE MONO. THEY SAW HIM ON THE SIDELINE.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2013, 01:27:14 PM
if you guys would listen to the gopowercat podcast you would know that tremaine DOESN'T HAVE MONO. THEY SAW HIM ON THE SIDELINE.

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 10, 2013, 01:40:23 PM
I'm probably in the 1% smartest of our fans.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: mocat on October 10, 2013, 02:01:09 PM
our fans are smater than ku's.


is this like a combo of smarter / tater ?  :Wha:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 10, 2013, 02:20:25 PM
our fans are smater than ku's.


is this like a combo of smarter / tater ?  :Wha:

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 8manpick on October 10, 2013, 02:29:32 PM
We will be seeing Daniel playing some other positions this weekend.

Did this happen? Just wondering. Haven't seen the game.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 10, 2013, 02:31:28 PM
We will be seeing Daniel playing some other positions this weekend.

Did this happen? Just wondering. Haven't seen the game.

He took at least 1 handoff as a RB.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 10, 2013, 02:32:34 PM
We will be seeing Daniel playing some other positions this weekend.

Did this happen? Just wondering. Haven't seen the game.

He took at least 1 handoff as a RB.

2 snaps. 1 power run as a running back in shotgun. 1 play at tailback when Waters sailed a throw over a receiver.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2013, 02:33:19 PM
We will be seeing Daniel playing some other positions this weekend.

Did this happen? Just wondering. Haven't seen the game.

Yeah, but they abandoned it pretty quick so he could get back to QB where the bigger need was.  Toe and 'lil Klein held it down at WR once their guy was running the show.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 10, 2013, 02:33:40 PM
Hey guys did burns play??? Just wondering
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2013, 02:34:28 PM
We will be seeing Daniel playing some other positions this weekend.

Did this happen? Just wondering. Haven't seen the game.

He took at least 1 handoff as a RB.

2 snaps. 1 power run as a running back in shotgun. 1 play at tailback when Waters sailed a throw over a receiver.

Wasn't there one with him split out as a receiver where he went in motion to take a handoff from Jake upon the snap?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Hey guys did burns play??? Just wondering

He was the one with this on his back:
















38
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 10, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
Hey guys did burns play??? Just wondering

He was the one with this on his back:
















38
it was rhetorical trim
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
Hey guys did burns play??? Just wondering

He was the one with this on his back:
















38
it was rhetorical trim

it was me remembering pak'n w/JW and lol'n about the dude w/no name walking back kickoffs.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: star seed 7 on October 10, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
our fans are smater than ku's.


is this like a combo of smarter / tater ?  :Wha:

oh my  :blush:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 10, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
Hey guys did burns play??? Just wondering

He was the one with this on his back:
















38
it was rhetorical trim

it was me remembering pak'n w/JW and lol'n about the dude w/no name walking back kickoffs.
touché, I was eluding to my scoop. While he did play it wasn't for known crap head Roberts so I'll call it a wash
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2013, 08:53:52 PM
if you guys would listen to the gopowercat podcast you would know that tremaine DOESN'T HAVE MONO. THEY SAW HIM ON THE SIDELINE.

Man, all 3 of them called BSAC a huge liar.  I've only gotten through the "serious football" stuff so far, but I think they've just about run out of code language for Sams/Waters and DJDT is gonna pull a Jeffy within weeks.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2013, 09:43:04 PM
if you guys would listen to the gopowercat podcast you would know that tremaine DOESN'T HAVE MONO. THEY SAW HIM ON THE SIDELINE.

Man, all 3 of them called BSAC a huge liar.  I've only gotten through the "serious football" stuff so far, but I think they've just about run out of code language for Sams/Waters and DJDT is gonna pull a Jeffy within weeks.

When did BSAC say he has mono?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 10, 2013, 09:57:41 PM
if you guys would listen to the gopowercat podcast you would know that tremaine DOESN'T HAVE MONO. THEY SAW HIM ON THE SIDELINE.

Man, all 3 of them called BSAC a huge liar.  I've only gotten through the "serious football" stuff so far, but I think they've just about run out of code language for Sams/Waters and DJDT is gonna pull a Jeffy within weeks.

When did BSAC say he has mono?
he didn't it was know early last week triple t would miss last week and possibly more
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 10, 2013, 10:18:54 PM
guys, he DOESN"T HAVE MONO. the gpc guys saw him REALLY UP CLOSE on the sideline. and the SUN WAS EVEN OUT. HOW COULD HE HAVE MONO?!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2013, 11:34:26 AM
if you guys would listen to the gopowercat podcast you would know that tremaine DOESN'T HAVE MONO. THEY SAW HIM ON THE SIDELINE.

Man, all 3 of them called BSAC a huge liar.  I've only gotten through the "serious football" stuff so far, but I think they've just about run out of code language for Sams/Waters and DJDT is gonna pull a Jeffy within weeks.

I've obtained the following transcript in an email:

Quote
Bart Ray-Gun (summarized): [Sams was lucky to have Thompson and Lockett out so he could be throwing to the backups he's used to]
DJDT: Can I also say, that this whole thing going around about Tramaine Thompson having mono is the biggest piece of baloney, you could make 2 foot-long sandwiches on how big that piece of baloney is.  There's no way that guy had mono.
FITZ: I don't know what's going on.  I wish I had an answer for everyone.  I just can't -
DJDT: I physically saw him on the sideline.  He did not have mono.  There's no way.  There's no way.  MONO?  People are like, on a couch.
BRG: He warmed up in pads!
DJDT: He warmed up in pads!
FITZ: I had mono once.
DJDT: He doesn't have mono.
FITZ: Uh, I felt like I was gonna die for a month.  That's all I felt like doing was sleeping for a month.  No way I could warm up for a practice or a football game or anything.
DJDT: Or even just be on the sidelines at a football game with the sun beating on you?
FITZ: No, no, no, no. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 11, 2013, 11:35:53 AM
THE SUN WAS OUT
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 11, 2013, 11:36:47 AM
There you have it. Investigative reporting.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 11, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Lol wtf??
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 11, 2013, 11:38:14 AM
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FITZ: Uh, I felt like I was gonna die for a month.  That's all I felt like doing was sleeping for a month.

there's a condition likely responsible for this, but i don't think it's mono.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 11, 2013, 11:42:14 AM
Is the answer, Alcoholism? Diabetes? Eating gross things? Being a pediphile? Etc.

Those things aren't mono.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Winters on October 11, 2013, 11:44:12 AM
Is the answer, Alcoholism? Diabetes? Eating gross things? Being a pediphile? Etc.

Those things aren't mono.
:D
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: owl borland on October 11, 2013, 12:29:39 PM
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DJDT: Can I also say, that this whole thing going around about Tramaine Thompson having mono is the biggest piece of baloney, you could make 2 foot-long sandwiches on how big that piece of baloney is.  There's no way that guy had mono.

That's a lot of baloney
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 11, 2013, 01:01:15 PM
Best baloney sandwich.  Ever
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
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FITZ: Uh, I felt like I was gonna die for a month.  That's all I felt like doing was sleeping for a month.

there's a condition likely responsible for this, but i don't think it's mono.

diabitis?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 11, 2013, 01:20:09 PM
Insider report: He is in my stats class and keeps wearing his hood up all class long. This started the week of the ok.st game
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 11, 2013, 01:21:03 PM
Insider report: He is in my stats class and keeps wearing his hood up all class long. This started the week of the ok.st game

The big C?  :ohno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 11, 2013, 01:45:50 PM
Insider report: He is in my stats class and keeps wearing his hood up all class long. This started the week of the ok.st game

The big C?  :ohno:
He also has it pulled around his head quite tight. Saw him talking to some girl on wednesday during our 7:30 pm test. He was doing stud things such as making her laugh. Maybe he has an STD
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MadCat on October 11, 2013, 02:04:33 PM
Insider report: He is in my stats class and keeps wearing his hood up all class long. This started the week of the ok.st game

The big C?  :ohno:
He also has it pulled around his head quite tight. Saw him talking to some girl on wednesday during our 7:30 pm test. He was doing stud things such as making her laugh. Maybe he has an STD
  Moderate to severe plaque psoriasis?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 11, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Seems like a penis hernia to me
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 11, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
it's actually mono, tho
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2013, 02:25:47 PM
How great is it that gE believes rumors from the staff and gpc thinks they are lies.  It's like opposite day!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2013, 02:26:57 PM
it's actually mono, tho

Quote
BRG: He warmed up in pads!
DJDT: He warmed up in pads!

, tho.

:runaway:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 11, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
If this is in the sky, than you can't have Mono.

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Just plain medical fact!!

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 11, 2013, 02:37:48 PM
it's actually mono, tho

No they get paid to tell you that you are wrong
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Willesgirl on October 13, 2013, 01:38:35 PM
Came here to find out why Triple Effing T has been sidelined. For what it's worth, I believe the mono story. I had it a few years ago. I went to the doctor because I had a swollen lymph node in my neck. I didn't feel bad AT ALL, but I was sleeping really well. (Am typically an insomniac.) I had a somewhat labor intensive job, and my doctor made me take three weeks off, even though I felt 100 percent fine. Apparently, if you're not careful, you could end up hospitalized or something. (I can't remember the details. Your spleen swells or something.???) Makes perfect sense that Tremaine looks fine and probably feels OK too, but isn't allowed to play.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2013, 03:29:18 PM
No need to mock the gpc crew when we have health experts on here like ER3II on here who are certain that Thompson doesn't have mono.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 13, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
I'm just glad Snyder really sent the message by sitting Thompson out for two games, but still letting him be part by being on the sideline with a headset on.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: wetwillie on October 13, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
I can't believe I fell for ednksu's TT warmup lie.  I feel so ashamed :bawl:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 13, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
I'm just glad Snyder really sent the message by sitting Thompson out for two games, but still letting him be part by being on the sideline with a headset on.

Thompson helping with the coaching is probably what's gotten us so much #life the last 2 games.  He was spot on in his comments after the texas game.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 20, 2013, 06:41:02 PM
I've been sitting on this, but it was revealed on this past week's "The GoPowercat Podcast" that Thompson had mono.

But another mystery was set forth - why is that Hubert is more effective with Sams at QB than with Waters taking the snaps?  DJDT can't figure it out at the moment, but tune in next week!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2013, 07:08:26 PM
The day he figures it out will be the day that it is no longer true.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2013, 07:38:25 PM
I'm just glad Snyder really sent the message by sitting Thompson out for two games, but still letting him be part by being on the sideline with a headset on.

Thompson helping with the coaching is probably what's gotten us so much #life the last 2 games.  He was spot on in his comments after the texas game.

Bill: "if you think you can do any better, be my guest"
TT: "where is my headset?"

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 21, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
I'm just glad Snyder really sent the message by sitting Thompson out for two games, but still letting him be part by being on the sideline with a headset on.

Thompson helping with the coaching is probably what's gotten us so much #life the last 2 games.  He was spot on in his comments after the texas game.

Bill: "if you think you can do any better, be my guest"
TT: "where is my headset?"

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 :lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 21, 2013, 11:59:43 AM
I've been sitting on this, but it was revealed on this past week's "The GoPowercat Podcast" that Thompson had mono.

But another mystery was set forth - why is that Hubert is more effective with Sams at QB than with Waters taking the snaps?  DJDT can't figure it out at the moment, but tune in next week!

I thought they said "no way" Thompson had mono because he was on sidelines.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 21, 2013, 12:00:45 PM
well, chalk up another stud scoop to BSAC.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 21, 2013, 12:01:20 PM
I've been sitting on this, but it was revealed on this past week's "The GoPowercat Podcast" that Thompson had mono.

But another mystery was set forth - why is that Hubert is more effective with Sams at QB than with Waters taking the snaps?  DJDT can't figure it out at the moment, but tune in next week!

I thought they said "no way" Thompson had mono because he was on sidelines.

That was the prior episode.  I guess some new information came to light.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 21, 2013, 01:28:53 PM
I've been sitting on this, but it was revealed on this past week's "The GoPowercat Podcast" that Thompson had mono.

But another mystery was set forth - why is that Hubert is more effective with Sams at QB than with Waters taking the snaps?  DJDT can't figure it out at the moment, but tune in next week!

I thought they said "no way" Thompson had mono because he was on sidelines.

That was the prior episode.  I guess some new information came to light.  :dunno:

Yeah, Thompson obviously no longer has mono, so DJDT can start believing that he did and probably still does.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 21, 2013, 01:40:12 PM
sort of just, acted like they knew he had mono all along didn't they?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 21, 2013, 01:48:47 PM
I'm just glad Snyder really sent the message by sitting Thompson out for two games, but still letting him be part by being on the sideline with a headset on.

Thompson helping with the coaching is probably what's gotten us so much #life the last 2 games.  He was spot on in his comments after the texas game.

Bill: "if you think you can do any better, be my guest"
TT: "where is my headset?"

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pffftt. how hilariously adorbs would it be if TT had his own neek
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slimz on October 21, 2013, 02:34:27 PM

I've obtained the following transcript in an email:

Quote
Bart Ray-Gun (summarized): [Sams was lucky to have Thompson and Lockett out so he could be throwing to the backups he's used to]
DJDT: Can I also say, that this whole thing going around about Tramaine Thompson having mono is the biggest piece of baloney, you could make 2 foot-long sandwiches on how big that piece of baloney is.  There's no way that guy had mono.
FITZ: I don't know what's going on.  I wish I had an answer for everyone.  I just can't -
DJDT: I physically saw him on the sideline.  He did not have mono.  There's no way.  There's no way.  MONO?  People are like, on a couch.
BRG: He warmed up in pads!
DJDT: He warmed up in pads!
FITZ: I had mono once.
DJDT: He doesn't have mono.
FITZ: Uh, I felt like I was gonna die for a month.  That's all I felt like doing was sleeping for a month.  No way I could warm up for a practice or a football game or anything.
DJDT: Or even just be on the sidelines at a football game with the sun beating on you?
FITZ: No, no, no, no. 


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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 21, 2013, 04:24:48 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 25, 2013, 10:25:03 AM
https://vine.co/v/hpgrwVYEO5V
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sunny_cat on October 25, 2013, 10:50:12 AM
https://vine.co/v/hpgrwVYEO5V

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: AbeFroman on October 25, 2013, 11:14:52 AM
https://vine.co/v/hpgrwVYEO5V

I can't even imagine how much it must suck to:

1. constantly get mushed by your boss in public
2. your boss is Fitz
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: scottwildcat on October 25, 2013, 04:59:48 PM
https://vine.co/v/hpgrwVYEO5V

BOOM. ROASTED.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 25, 2013, 09:20:29 PM
goEMAW just out scooping the crap out of everyone, as usual
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: pvegs on October 25, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
I would have been skeptical of that story. Glad Tramaine is better. Maybe if goEMAW had a weekly podcast I could compare the two to see which is more accurate/informative.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 26, 2013, 02:04:26 AM
https://vine.co/v/hpgrwVYEO5V

OOM. ROASTED.

oom roasted is one of my new goEMAW faves
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: star seed 7 on October 26, 2013, 02:30:38 AM
Skibe, are you in town? I would like 2 meat (lol) you.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 26, 2013, 11:57:57 AM
Skibe, are you in town? I would like 2 meat (lol) you.


I wish. :frown: New Orleans today for this ol' bbs poster.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Katpappy on October 28, 2013, 11:34:24 PM


Kansas State QB Jake Waters Proves vs. WVU That He Should Be Full Time Starter


By
Sean Frye
  (Featured Columnist)  on October 26, 2013
Kansas State just got its first Big 12 win of the season, and in the process Jake Waters proved once and for all that he, and not Daniel Sams, should be the full-time starting quarterback.

The Kansas State Wildcats (3-4) went into the game against WVU reeling and looking for their first Big 12 win. Waters, who had seen limited time in recent weeks backing up Sams, proved to be the spark LHC Bill Snyder was looking for.

Waters put up three touchdowns and 198 yards through the air on 10-of-13 passing. He also rushed for 55 yards and helped secure the Wildcats' first win in over a month, a 35-12 thrashing of the Mountaineers.

Waters actually got off to a bad start, fumbling the ball on the Wildcats' first possession. But Snyder said after the game that he was pleased with how Waters responded.

"I am proud of him," Snyder said. "When things don't go your way that is what you are supposed to do. We are all supposed to do that. That is what life is all about."

Who should be the full-time starter for K-State?

Daniel Sams  Jake Waters Submit Vote vote to see results

Where Waters really showed his stuff was on two deep touchdown throws to his two favorite targets, Tyler Lockett and Tramaine Thompson. The Wildcats lit up the scoreboard first on a 35-yard bomb to Lockett, whom Waters hit in stride on a post route.

Then in the second half, Waters found Thompson on an almost identical play that went for 30 yards and a touchdown.

Kansas State put the game away when Waters threw a perfect 24-yard strike to Lockett in the back corner of the end zone, giving K-State a 28-12 lead with just 7:31 remaining.

Many fans at Kansas State had been yearning for Sams to takeover ever since they saw him achieve some success as Collin Klein's backup last year. Waters three-touchdown performance, in fact, is the most productive game for a K-State quarterback since Klein went 19-of-21 with three TDs against WVU last season.

With his performance today, Waters proved that he deserves to be the starting quarterback as Kansas State looks to win three of its next five games to become bowl eligible.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: sunny_cat on October 28, 2013, 11:37:49 PM
Don't blame Sean. He doesn't know any better.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Big Train on October 29, 2013, 12:04:58 AM


Kansas State QB Jake Waters Proves vs. WVU That He Should Be Full Time Starter


By
Sean Frye
  (Featured Columnist)  on October 26, 2013
Kansas State just got its first Big 12 win of the season, and in the process Jake Waters proved once and for all that he, and not Daniel Sams, should be the full-time starting quarterback.

The Kansas State Wildcats (3-4) went into the game against WVU reeling and looking for their first Big 12 win. Waters, who had seen limited time in recent weeks backing up Sams, proved to be the spark LHC Bill Snyder was looking for.

Waters put up three touchdowns and 198 yards through the air on 10-of-13 passing. He also rushed for 55 yards and helped secure the Wildcats' first win in over a month, a 35-12 thrashing of the Mountaineers.

Waters actually got off to a bad start, fumbling the ball on the Wildcats' first possession. But Snyder said after the game that he was pleased with how Waters responded.

"I am proud of him," Snyder said. "When things don't go your way that is what you are supposed to do. We are all supposed to do that. That is what life is all about."

Who should be the full-time starter for K-State?

Daniel Sams  Jake Waters Submit Vote vote to see results

Where Waters really showed his stuff was on two deep touchdown throws to his two favorite targets, Tyler Lockett and Tramaine Thompson. The Wildcats lit up the scoreboard first on a 35-yard bomb to Lockett, whom Waters hit in stride on a post route.

Then in the second half, Waters found Thompson on an almost identical play that went for 30 yards and a touchdown.

Kansas State put the game away when Waters threw a perfect 24-yard strike to Lockett in the back corner of the end zone, giving K-State a 28-12 lead with just 7:31 remaining.

Many fans at Kansas State had been yearning for Sams to takeover ever since they saw him achieve some success as Collin Klein's backup last year. Waters three-touchdown performance, in fact, is the most productive game for a K-State quarterback since Klein went 19-of-21 with three TDs against WVU last season.

With his performance today, Waters proved that he deserves to be the starting quarterback as Kansas State looks to win three of its next five games to become bowl eligible.

:opcat:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: IHateSQUAWKS on October 29, 2013, 07:27:37 AM


Kansas State QB Jake Waters Proves vs. WVU That He Should Be Full Time Starter


By
Sean Frye
  (Featured Columnist)  on October 26, 2013
Kansas State just got its first Big 12 win of the season, and in the process Jake Waters proved once and for all that he, and not Daniel Sams, should be the full-time starting quarterback.

The Kansas State Wildcats (3-4) went into the game against WVU reeling and looking for their first Big 12 win. Waters, who had seen limited time in recent weeks backing up Sams, proved to be the spark LHC LHC Bill Snyder was looking for.

Waters put up three touchdowns and 198 yards through the air on 10-of-13 passing. He also rushed for 55 yards and helped secure the Wildcats' first win in over a month, a 35-12 thrashing of the Mountaineers.

Waters actually got off to a bad start, fumbling the ball on the Wildcats' first possession. But Snyder said after the game that he was pleased with how Waters responded.

"I am proud of him," Snyder said. "When things don't go your way that is what you are supposed to do. We are all supposed to do that. That is what life is all about."

Who should be the full-time starter for K-State?

Daniel Sams  Jake Waters Submit Vote vote to see results

Where Waters really showed his stuff was on two deep touchdown throws to his two favorite targets, Tyler Lockett and Tramaine Thompson. The Wildcats lit up the scoreboard first on a 35-yard bomb to Lockett, whom Waters hit in stride on a post route.

Then in the second half, Waters found Thompson on an almost identical play that went for 30 yards and a touchdown.

Kansas State put the game away when Waters threw a perfect 24-yard strike to Lockett in the back corner of the end zone, giving K-State a 28-12 lead with just 7:31 remaining.

Many fans at Kansas State had been yearning for Sams to takeover ever since they saw him achieve some success as Collin Klein's backup last year. Waters three-touchdown performance, in fact, is the most productive game for a K-State quarterback since Klein went 19-of-21 with three TDs against WVU last season.

With his performance today, Waters proved that he deserves to be the starting quarterback as Kansas State looks to win three of its next five games to become bowl eligible.

Waters had a good game against the easiest Big 12 team we have played so far this season.  Why not let Sams run more than 3 running plays to see if he can be successful as well?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2013, 07:41:04 AM
Jake did well. 

That said, it is weird to me that some journalists are so eager to jump on his side. I mean, that Joshua kinder dumbass actually tweeted that sams td to lockett was lockett bailing out sams,but his tds w Jake were just good throws.  Weird.

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 29, 2013, 08:15:02 AM
#teamkstatewinning
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
#teamkstatewinning

Yeah, I am here now too. 

Honestly, I don't care any more.  #TeamWhatEvsBillIAmTiredOfThisShitJustWin
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 29, 2013, 09:13:46 AM
#TeamCallingPlaysThatFitTheQuarterbackWhoIsCurrentlyPlaying

and

#TeamWinning

are they mutually inclusive? i think so!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: #LIFE on October 29, 2013, 09:15:02 AM
Waters had a good game against the easiest Big 12 team we have played so far this season.  Why not let Sams run more than 3 running plays to see if he can be successful as well?

Actually just 1 good half.  He was same old dogshit Jake the 1st half.

I'm with you guys though, I just want to win.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2013, 09:15:45 AM
#TeamCallingPlaysThatFitTheQuarterbackWhoIsCurrentlyPlaying

and

#TeamWinning

are they mutually inclusive? i think so!

Maybe #TeamBillMakeUpYourGodDamnFoggyMind?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 29, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I just feel so bad for Thompson that he had to keep quiet while all the haters were talking bad about him and saying he absolutely didn't have mono.

Quote
"The thing that bothered me the most out of that whole thing was how people were really talking bad about me," Thompson said. "There were a lot of people talking bad about me, saying I was in the doghouse because of my Texas comments and things like that. Coach Snyder doesn’t let us talk about injuries so I had to sit back and take that. That sucked."

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2013/10/27/3082430/thompson-happy-to-be-back-on-field.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2013, 09:20:32 AM
Fitz and Wally are absolute bullies.  It disgusts me the way they discuss the challenges of kids in such a negative, and often insensitive, way.

They need to take some responsibility for the hate and discontent they spread like seeds in the wind.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kso_FAN on October 29, 2013, 09:33:17 AM
Most of goEMAW knew (and believed) the truth from the start. Poor TT.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2013, 10:47:27 AM
Dumbasses jtksu and ERii have remained silent since their fat faces were mushed about Thompson's mono.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 29, 2013, 10:55:38 AM
Dumbasses jtksu and ERii have remained silent since their fat faces were mushed about Thompson's mono.

I never said he was in the dog house, I just don't think mono is what kept him from playing.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 'taterblast on October 29, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
I just don't think mono is what kept him from playing.

best buds forever ERII, but you need to run away from thinking this. as fast as you can.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 29, 2013, 11:00:40 AM
I just don't think mono is what kept him from playing.

best buds forever ERII, but you need to run away from thinking this. as fast as you can.

You're probably right, I don't want MIR to come in here and get super angry and kick my ass again.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 29, 2013, 11:01:38 AM
wait, so after as many years as he's been covering Snyder teams, Fitz actually thought that Bill might hold out one of his best players for multiple games because he said something in the media?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: CNS on October 29, 2013, 11:14:47 AM
wait, so after as many years as he's been covering Snyder teams, Fitz actually thought that Bill might hold out one of his best players for multiple games because he said something in the media?

I don't know if he said that, I just know that he basically said there is no way he had mono.  Like, no way at all.  Not even possible. 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 29, 2013, 11:15:39 AM
ah ok.  I don't watch his worthless videos so I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 29, 2013, 11:19:18 AM
Wouldn't you think that it would have benefited TT more to stay home and rest rather than travel if he had mono? That's all I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 29, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
Wouldn't you think that it would have benefited TT more to stay home and rest rather than travel if he had mono? That's all I'm trying to say.

the reason why they can't play during/shortly after having mono is because there's a danger of a spleen rupture if they get hit the right way.  it's enlarged during and after mono.  there's also such a thing as walking mono where you have more mild symptoms but still wouldn't be able to play.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 29, 2013, 11:30:03 AM
Wouldn't you think that it would have benefited TT more to stay home and rest rather than travel if he had mono? That's all I'm trying to say.

the reason why they can't play during/shortly after having mono is because there's a danger of a spleen rupture if they get hit the right way.  it's enlarged during and after mono.  there's also such a thing as walking mono where you have more mild symptoms but still wouldn't be able to play.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 29, 2013, 11:45:16 AM
Fitz and Wally are absolute bullies.  It disgusts me the way they discuss the challenges of kids in such a negative, and often insensitive, way.

They need to take some responsibility for the hate and discontent they spread like seeds in the wind.
Why does the University give these idiots special access to the athletic dept? They are well-known to be bad people.

Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2013, 11:47:50 AM
Wouldn't you think that it would have benefited TT more to stay home and rest rather than travel if he had mono? That's all I'm trying to say.

the reason why they can't play during/shortly after having mono is because there's a danger of a spleen rupture if they get hit the right way.  it's enlarged during and after mono.  there's also such a thing as walking mono where you have more mild symptoms but still wouldn't be able to play.

I told the dumbass this more than once but he was convinced he knew what the hell he was talking about when it was clear that he didn't
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 29, 2013, 11:51:14 AM
Fitz and Wally are absolute bullies.  It disgusts me the way they discuss the challenges of kids in such a negative, and often insensitive, way.

They need to take some responsibility for the hate and discontent they spread like seeds in the wind.

I would think Tremaine would personally take offense that they basically said he was in trouble with his head coach.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: ChiComCat on October 29, 2013, 11:59:59 AM
The media deciding to vilify a college student with no information, but its going to happen when Snyder won't talk about injuries to any extent.  Not that he needs to give a total breakdown, but coming out and saying that TT is not out for any disciplinary reasons could have happened.  At least its going to happen with journalism integrity of GoPo. 

GoPowercat: Poorly educated guesses, thinly veiled racism and letting you know that we knew, after the fact.  That will be $10.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 29, 2013, 12:07:17 PM
GoPowercat: Poorly educated guesses, thinly veiled racism and letting you know that we knew, after the fact.  That will be $10.
:thumbs:

This would be a great tag line for their in-stadium advertising, t-shirt giveaways, etc, imho.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 29, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Wouldn't you think that it would have benefited TT more to stay home and rest rather than travel if he had mono? That's all I'm trying to say.

the reason why they can't play during/shortly after having mono is because there's a danger of a spleen rupture if they get hit the right way.  it's enlarged during and after mono.  there's also such a thing as walking mono where you have more mild symptoms but still wouldn't be able to play.

I told the dumbass this more than once but he was convinced he knew what the hell he was talking about when it was clear that he didn't

 :D
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2013, 12:50:18 PM
:D

 :eye:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 29, 2013, 01:15:08 PM
How can the journalists bash on Sams when he didn't throw any incomplete passes? Also, eff our little time journalists. ESPN still says Sams is better

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/74843/ranking-the-big-12s-top-25-quarterbacks?ex_cid=espnapi_public (http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/74843/ranking-the-big-12s-top-25-quarterbacks?ex_cid=espnapi_public)
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: slobber on October 29, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
GoPowercat: Poorly educated guesses, thinly veiled racism and letting you know that we knew, after the fact.  That will be $10.
:thumbs:

This would be a great tag line for their in-stadium advertising, t-shirt giveaways, etc, imho.
Would easily double the membership.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Gooch on October 29, 2013, 02:43:53 PM
:D

 :eye:
I'm glad I don't have to try to broker the peace b/w you two now when you come down for the Clutch show with Metalhead.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 29, 2013, 02:46:20 PM
:D

 :eye:
I'm glad I don't have to try to broker the peace b/w you two now when you come down for the Clutch show with Metalhead.

MIR's going?!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Gooch on October 29, 2013, 02:47:11 PM
:D

 :eye:
I'm glad I don't have to try to broker the peace b/w you two now when you come down for the Clutch show with Metalhead.

MIR's going?!  :surprised:
No but I was going to get him on the phone. I hate to see mommy and daddy fight!
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2013, 11:32:09 PM
:D

 :eye:
I'm glad I don't have to try to broker the peace b/w you two now when you come down for the Clutch show with Metalhead.

MIR's going?!  :surprised:

They like me better, I actually knew where they were tailgating last Saturday :Nahnah:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 29, 2013, 11:43:10 PM
:D

 :eye:
I'm glad I don't have to try to broker the peace b/w you two now when you come down for the Clutch show with Metalhead.

MIR's going?!  :surprised:

They like me better, I actually knew where they were tailgating last Saturday :Nahnah:

you still didn't come by...
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2013, 11:51:19 PM
:D

 :eye:
I'm glad I don't have to try to broker the peace b/w you two now when you come down for the Clutch show with Metalhead.

MIR's going?!  :surprised:

They like me better, I actually knew where they were tailgating last Saturday :Nahnah:

you still didn't come by...

My wife  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: DQ12 on October 30, 2013, 01:19:52 AM
he was too busy hanging out with me, metalhead.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: felix rex on October 30, 2013, 06:44:51 AM
Right or wrong, I'm running with walking mono as the new eye hernia just because I like saying it.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: steve dave on October 30, 2013, 07:10:13 AM
I can confirm that he had the type of mono that makes you feel like crap
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 30, 2013, 07:45:52 AM
he was too busy hanging out with me, metalhead.

bologna, gooch and I watched you and meigecat serenading everyone from atop an suv. No MiR tho.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 60scat on October 30, 2013, 07:59:37 AM
Who is meigecat?   I'm a cat fan that graduated from Miege many years ago.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: 0.42 on October 30, 2013, 09:36:03 AM
The media deciding to vilify a college student with no information, but its going to happen when Snyder won't talk about injuries to any extent.  Not that he needs to give a total breakdown, but coming out and saying that TT is not out for any disciplinary reasons could have happened.  At least its going to happen with journalism integrity of GoPo. 

GoPowercat: Poorly educated guesses, thinly veiled racism and letting you know that we knew, after the fact.  That will be $10.

Such a juvenile post from your mom's basement. Go back to Lawrence you SQUAK
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 30, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
Who is meigecat?   I'm a cat fan that graduated from Miege many years ago.

hes a myth.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 30, 2013, 12:51:17 PM
Who is meigecat?   I'm a cat fan that graduated from Miege many years ago.

hes a myth.

legend?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2015, 01:31:43 AM
Ray-Gun's still fighting the good (?) fight:

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KansasCityCat9 said: ?
I mean, is it really mono? Or is it like Tramaine Thompson had "mono" 2 years ago and was out (put in quotes on purpose)
Completely different circumstances. Thompson made the trip to Stillwater two years ago. He just didn't play. He also popped off to the media the week before. Banks didn't travel, and hasn't spoken to the media since early August. I think it's safe to assume he has mono because even if he wasn't ready to play, I'm pretty sure K-State would have taken more than one healthy scholarship quarterback on the trip.
 
2 BrettGPC, Yesterday at 2:11 PM

And shout to pencat1979:

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KansasCityCat9 said: ?
I mean, is it really mono? Or is it like Tramaine Thompson had "mono" 2 years ago and was out (put in quotes on purpose)
Eye Hernia
 
4 pencat1979, Yesterday at 2:22 PM
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2015, 11:05:04 AM
I love this thread bump, I stacked up the body bags in here  :love: Was this the thread that turned ERii into a parody poster?
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: kslim on October 06, 2015, 11:17:41 AM
Well since we are spilling the beans Dorian Roberts will play significantly less minutes so watch out for burns
i hate myself for this
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2015, 03:38:57 PM
I love this thread bump, I stacked up the body bags in here  :love: Was this the thread that turned ERii into a parody poster?

How far back to I have to go?  I just searched for ray-gun and mono or something and quickly found that specific section to know this was the right thread for the update.
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2015, 05:34:44 PM
I love this thread bump, I stacked up the body bags in here  :love: Was this the thread that turned ERii into a parody poster?

How far back to I have to go?  I just searched for ray-gun and mono or something and quickly found that specific section to know this was the right thread for the update.

Page 11
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Trim on October 06, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
I went back to 11 through the end and enjoyed it so much I read 1-10 too.  Pretty good! 
Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 06, 2015, 07:41:59 PM
Mono, lol. Ok.

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Title: Re: Sams / Thompson
Post by: Bloodfart on October 07, 2015, 08:23:38 AM
 :lol: