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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: The Big Train on September 07, 2013, 04:17:30 PM
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:surprised:
The report makes the following allegations:
* Coaches and boosters paying athletes, including violations ranging from paying for jobs not performed, overpaying for jobs and strictly paying players for performance.
DeForest is accused of running a bonus program – paying players for specific plays – as recently as 2011.
DeForest, who spent 11 seasons at OSU, is in his second year as an assistant coach at West Virginia. Saturday, he denied the charges.
* A environment of academic impropriety, from players not attending class to grade changing to tutors doing work for players.
* Widespread drug abuse and a drug policy that isn’t uniformly administered.
* Hostesses in the Orange Pride program providing sex to recruits.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-football-sports-illustrated-report-expected-to-reveal-improprieties-in-cowboys-program/article/3880554/?page=1
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they aren't in hot water
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
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Joe bob brings trouble everywhere he goes
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This is a blue print of what we need to implement.
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I want us to do that, but not getting caught or being reported in press.
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I this gets Eforest (no D because he can't run one) kicked out of WV, I'm all for these allegations sticking. Eff that guy.
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I want us to do that, but not getting caught or being reported in press.
Being reported is the best part. Lets kids know how you roll on the national news.
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Who cares. Get this trash off the board.
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they aren't in hot water
yeah, they're in stillwater. dumbass thread
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they aren't in hot water
yeah, they're in stillwater. dumbass thread
1. Thread title was no pun intended.
2. Don't be a bitch.
3. Go Cats
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they aren't in hot water
yeah, they're in stillwater. dumbass thread
1. Thread title was no pun intended.
2. Don't be a bitch.
3. Go Cats
go cats
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they aren't in hot water
yeah, they're in stillwater. dumbass thread
1. Thread title was no pun intended.
2. Don't be a bitch.
3. Go Cats
don't mind gfa, he's a little cranky because he hates when sams does good.
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they aren't in hot water
yeah, they're in stillwater. dumbass thread
1. Thread title was no pun intended.
2. Don't be a bitch.
3. Go Cats
don't mind gfa, he's a little cranky because he hates when sams does good.
seven, I'm in a great mood. cats won :D
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:surprised:
The report makes the following allegations:
* Coaches and boosters paying athletes, including violations ranging from paying for jobs not performed, overpaying for jobs and strictly paying players for performance.
DeForest is accused of running a bonus program – paying players for specific plays – as recently as 2011.
DeForest, who spent 11 seasons at OSU, is in his second year as an assistant coach at West Virginia. Saturday, he denied the charges.
* A environment of academic impropriety, from players not attending class to grade changing to tutors doing work for players.
* Widespread drug abuse and a drug policy that isn’t uniformly administered.
* Hostesses in the Orange Pride program providing sex to recruits.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-football-sports-illustrated-report-expected-to-reveal-improprieties-in-cowboys-program/article/3880554/?page=1
I just read the link. So either Gundy changed everything when he took over, or SI just didn't explore what happened when he took the OSU helm? Looks like the latter:
The source added neither Cowboy coach Mike Gundy nor any current players were interviewed for the project, and that Sports Illustrated’s findings indicated that the program is not in the same state it once was.
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Wow, that's top notch journalism, SI.
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I hope they get mumped hard. Any team that tries to cheat with a booster like BP is absolutely sick in the head
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Wow, that's top notch journalism, SI.
My thoughts exactly. Make big news out of old stuff. Like Gundy, his staff, and players were all blind when they came in?
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Wow, that's top notch journalism, SI.
My thoughts exactly. Make big news out of old stuff. Like Gundy, his staff, and players were all blind when they came in?
He's 40. He's a man.
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:bwpopcorn:
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STILLWATER, Okla. -- With the imminent disclosure by Sports Illustrated of alleged transgressions by Oklahoma State's football program, athletic director Mike Holder apologized to his fellow Big 12 schools and vowed to deal with whatever allegations are exposed.
Holder says he was apologizing to "all of the athletic directors in the conference for what's about to happen, what's about to be said about a member institution. That reflects on everyone."
The school says SI told them about the upcoming expose. It has notified the NCAA and launched its own investigation.
that doesn't sound good... at all.
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lucky bastards
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Sounds like a big hammer is coming down. This is bad news for all of the Big 12.
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Supposedly it's all from 2007 and before. Statute of Limitations is up. They'll be fine.
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Am I the only one who thinks this will blow over? Unless I'm mistaken, the NCAA can't do anything unless these "sources" voluntarily agree to speak with NCAA enforcement officials. Otherwise, it's just hearsay. The NCAA has a Faustian obligation to maintain the flimsy veneer of amateurism that it trumpets, and acknowledging the pervasive sub-economy of major college athletics would damage their mission statement.
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Luckily Gundy is both in his 40s and is also a goddamned man. He can weather this storm.
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Yeah, doubt anything happens unless they self impose something pud
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According to several media outlets including The Oklahoman, the series of reports, expected to be published this week, includes the following allegations:
-Payments from coaches and boosters to players.
-A bonus program run by former assistant coach Joe DeForest, now at West Virginia, for Cowboys players that existed as recently as 2011. Coaches and boosters paying athletes, including violations ranging from paying for jobs not performed, overpaying for jobs and strictly paying players for performance.
-Academic corruption involving grade changes and players' work being completed by others.
-Drug abuse among players and sexual relations with hostesses in the school's Orange Pride program.
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Worst case, T. Boone can just start up a new school for them. TSC can even hook them up with the Pink Taco guy.
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Worst case, T. Boone can just start up a new school for them. TSC can even hook them up with the Pink Taco guy.
great idea here
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Yep. Like a bar. Busted? Shut her down, incorporate under new name, get license, open next wknd. And that's if boone doesn't pay off witnesses.
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I would be pretty proud of we did something SI worthy like that.
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Dammit they get all the nice crap.
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I would be pretty proud of we did something SI worthy like that.
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Beasley tho
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I would be pretty proud of we did something SI worthy like that.
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Beasley tho
yea look at his situation now....emaw nation should be so proud!
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Just a millionaire enjoying life. What's your point, Tim?
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That reflects on everyone."
Lol...No, pretty sure it just reflects on you, bud. Good try though! :popcorn:
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I would be pretty proud of we did something SI worthy like that.
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Beasley tho
oh stfu
Also, this is nothing. Remember that used car dealership in Norman. *yawn*
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ksu should be able to sue for some 'cruits out of this deal. at least 1 for each year the money/sex/drugs/school fraud thing was going on.
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ksu should be able to sue for some 'cruits out of this deal. at least 1 for each year the money/sex/drugs/school fraud thing was going on.
Maybe we just pick from their current roster, and take maybe 6 DITR. :whistle1:
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Should have known they were up to something down there. What is a good board to read the meltdown, Black Shoes Diary style?
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If something major happens, we should hire everyone that doesn't get stung. That said, nothing happens here as long as they all keep their mouths shut.
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They might actually be effed
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They might actually be effed
It probably depends on how much they can connect to Gundy. Apparently, some of it extends to him, but we don't know what yet.
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Should have known they were up to something down there. What is a good board to read the meltdown, Black Shoes Diary style?
orangepower is my go-to OSU board, but they're muffling all discussion on the topic. locking threads so as to avoid "unsubstantiated rumors." :'bye cruel world:
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Well Oklahoma st. Orange Pride girls are not really that hot. I've expected better looking girls like playboys hot or something. If anything Oklahoma st should be penalized for that
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If anything, this will only help recruiting. Gundy probably leaked it the day after the statute of limitations expired. Stud/boss power move.
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Everyone cheats in one way or another.
What's sad is that many in our tuck fanbase will make this the reason they recruit better than us, rather than just recognizing that they had (and frankly still have) better facilities than us (and will have better facilities than us until we redo Vanier), they have a generally younger more aggressive coaching staff, and they do things (like all kinds of uni's) that 18 years really like (and frankly college football players have liked for a long time, there's a reason coaches have been pulling surprise uniform changes for decades now).
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http://insidesportsillustrated.com/2013/09/09/sports-illustrated-investigative-report-the-dirty-game-set-to-launch-tuesday-september-10-at-9-a-m-et/
my goodness. not sure what will come from it...but 5 straight days of this. should be fun.
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Well, I know where I'm going to be september buzz at fizz am
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They might actually be effed
It probably depends on how much they can connect to Gundy. Apparently, some of it extends to him, but we don't know what yet.
It depends how cordial they are to the NCAA. The only schools that get punished are the ones that say "eff you" to the NCAA. Kiss a few asses, lose 2 scholarships (see: Oregon vs. USC)
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130910/oklahoma-state-part-1-money/?sct=hp_t11_a2
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130910/oklahoma-state-part-1-money/?sct=hp_t11_a2
Unless part 2 or 3 has some Miami-esque abortion stories, this is pretty tame crap.
"I got $100 like 5 times in 4 years" :jerk:
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I used to be all envious of programs that pay players and wished we would do the same. But since we evidently cannot or will not do that, I say eff the schools that do. This will be fun to watch.
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:popcorn:
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The comments from OSU fans are beautiful. This week is a living nightmare for them.
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Honestly, this feels more like SI is using this story to convince the NCAA that paying players is the way to go rather than SI trying to destroy OSU. The last paragraph is kinda sad.
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130910/oklahoma-state-part-1-money/?sct=hp_t11_a2
Unless part 2 or 3 has some Miami-esque abortion stories, this is pretty tame crap.
"I got $100 like 5 times in 4 years" :jerk:
Sex stories on Thursday :fatty:
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2 dead players and a dead booster because FACTS
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WTF is wrong with these ungrateful players? You got illicit money, now shut up so current players can get the same.
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Sounds like some BS dug up to try and make Manziel drama forgotten.
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WTF is wrong with these ungrateful players? You got illicit money, now shut up so current players can get the same.
But these poor guys were treated unfairly! They were no longer paid when they started sucking! Wahhhhhhh!
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Everyone cheats in one way or another.
What's sad is that many in our tuck fanbase will make this the reason they recruit better than us, rather than just recognizing that they had (and frankly still have) better facilities than us (and will have better facilities than us until we redo Vanier), they have a generally younger more aggressive coaching staff, and they do things (like all kinds of uni's) that 18 years really like (and frankly college football players have liked for a long time, there's a reason coaches have been pulling surprise uniform changes for decades now).
It's begun.
https://twitter.com/FakeWillie/status/377426808133541888
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Pretty interesting to watch the twitter media types react to the story. They are all over the board on this.
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Hopefully Pickens wants to clean the program out and hire some pud non-cheating coach.
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Yeah, doubt anything happens unless they self impose something pud
They're so lucky they don't have John Currie right now.
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Can you imagine the number of receipts that were left in trash cans?
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Can you imagine the number of receipts that were left in trash cans?
Yeah, like none.
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Dez Bryant will want to cooperate seeing how effed he was in the NCAA sanctions vs. Johnny Fuckface
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If something major happens, we should hire everyone that doesn't get stung. That said, nothing happens here as long as they all keep their mouths shut.
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Bite your tongue...Joe Bob???
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WTF is wrong with these ungrateful players? You got illicit money, now shut up so current players can get the same.
But these poor guys were treated unfairly! They were no longer paid when they started sucking! Wahhhhhhh!
man that pony excess documentary.. I wanted to beat the crap out of the kid that blew the whistle (TOO SHORT!)
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OSU fans in full denial mode. saying that the only named sources are players that got kicked off the team.
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2 full days by Scottwildluke!
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=28922.0
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2 full days by Scottwildluke!
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=28922.0
I see one thread about Okie State being in hot water and another thread about them actually being effed (even tho maybe not effed because they cheat well) :dunno:
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So, I think it is safe to say they didn't cheat so well. :dunno:
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So, I think it is safe to say they didn't cheat so well. :dunno:
Didn't get caught until 5 years late and not one huge smoking gun* so they may not get in any trouble.
*yet
I think the scary thing is that there is just a ton of names, and I'm sure that they can start sniffing around some of those names to find current issues.
It's like they started sniffing around a money laundering scheme, got a hold of the books, and now there's no telling what they can find because there's so many names and you want to know why they were in the book to begin with.
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So, I think it is safe to say they didn't cheat so well. :dunno:
Didn't get caught until 5 years late and not one huge smoking gun* so they may not get in any trouble.
*yet
I think the scary thing is that there is just a ton of names, and I'm sure that they can start sniffing around some of those names to find current issues.
It's like they started sniffing around a money laundering scheme, got a hold of the books, and now there's no telling what they can find because there's so many names and you want to know why they were in the book to begin with.
Deleted my post because I was going to try to find a tweet from earlier today saying the same thing you did but in 140 characters.
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
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Multiple small infractions is worse then one big infractions, with the current NCAA.
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So, I think it is safe to say they didn't cheat so well. :dunno:
Didn't get caught until 5 years late and not one huge smoking gun* so they may not get in any trouble.
*yet
I think the scary thing is that there is just a ton of names, and I'm sure that they can start sniffing around some of those names to find current issues.
It's like they started sniffing around a money laundering scheme, got a hold of the books, and now there's no telling what they can find because there's so many names and you want to know why they were in the book to begin with.
Just wait until they find the Artie Piscano of the whole operation. Oh man, the NCAA will have all of the information they need then.
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
^^^ Lead investigator/writer is an OU grad who cant stand that lil bro is on the same level as OU
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If you did enough investigating you would probably find that 90% of schools do this, why did they pick on okie state?
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
^^^ Lead investigator/writer is an OU grad who cant stand that lil bro is on the same level as OU
If this is true, that's, like, SEC level awesome.
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I hope the drug part of the story is more exciting than the money, because if this first one is any indication the drug story will be about a few guys smoking ditch weed out of a pop can. :zzz:
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lol, sports illustrated is going to look like absolute clowns
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lol, sports illustrated is going to look like absolute clowns
yeah. SI might as well have done a story on WWII.
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I hope the drug part of the story is more exciting than the money, because if this first one is any indication the drug story will be about a few guys smoking ditch weed out of a pop can. :zzz:
lol, so true. that first one was snooze city.
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lol, sports illustrated is going to look like absolute clowns
it is starting to look that way
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this is like the time all the journo dumbasses were hyping up the slam piece that Kent Babb was going to destroy Frank with and then he got scared and made it super nice.
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this is like the time all the journo dumbasses were hyping up the slam piece that Kent Babb was going to destroy Frank with and then he got scared and made it super nice.
initial interpretation of "slam piece" changes the meaning of this greatly
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
^^^ Lead investigator/writer is an OU grad who cant stand that lil bro is on the same level as OU
If this is true, that's, like, SEC level awesome.
This isn't Thayer Evans first time throwing mud at OSU
http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/thayer-evans-takes-down-oklahoma-state
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If you did enough investigating you would probably find that 90% of schools do this, why did they pick on okie state?
They didn't know there were going to be violations I don't think. It started as a piece on a team rising to the top so quickly. It was between OSU, Oregon and Boise
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
^^^ Lead investigator/writer is an OU grad who cant stand that lil bro is on the same level as OU
If this is true, that's, like, SEC level awesome.
This isn't Thayer Evans first time throwing mud at OSU
http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/thayer-evans-takes-down-oklahoma-state
Thayer Evans' parents should be punched in the face for naming their child "Thayer."
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If you did enough investigating you would probably find that 90% of schools do this, why did they pick on okie state?
They didn't know there were going to be violations I don't think. It started as a piece on a team rising to the top so quickly. It was between OSU, Oregon and Boise
Holy crap. Boise should be scared to death. Last one standing/not accused of rampant cheating.
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
^^^ Lead investigator/writer is an OU grad who cant stand that lil bro is on the same level as OU
If this is true, that's, like, SEC level awesome.
This isn't Thayer Evans first time throwing mud at OSU
http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/thayer-evans-takes-down-oklahoma-state
Whitlock clowning Thayer on twitter.
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At least they have strong academics right? RIGHT??
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oh man, tatum
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multiple :D 's
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This is a blue print of what we need to implement.
I second this!
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I love how Whitlock is just destroying this when he pretty much implied that he had no intentions of ever reading the story.
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
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At least they have strong academics right? RIGHT??
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The local OK sports guys using twitter to set up interviews with him is hilarious as well...
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
you guys do realize that they fairly recently placed sanctions on USC, Ohio St and Penn St, right?
this whole "too big for the NCAA" is stupid. maybe in basketball, but they've proven they'll issue sanctions to anyone in football. the main issue is there's absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who they punish and how hard.
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I would say as long as the ppl mentioned in the story are countering the story, the NCAA won't do much.
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
you guys do realize that they fairly recently placed sanctions on USC, Ohio St and Penn St, right?
this whole "too big for the NCAA" is stupid. maybe in basketball, but they've proven they'll issue sanctions to anyone in football. the main issue is there's absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who they punish and how hard.
Fair points on USC and Ohio State. Penn State is kind of an entirely different category though.
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
you guys do realize that they fairly recently placed sanctions on USC, Ohio St and Penn St, right?
this whole "too big for the NCAA" is stupid. maybe in basketball, but they've proven they'll issue sanctions to anyone in football. the main issue is there's absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who they punish and how hard.
USC: Essentially told the NCAA to go eff themselves with their internal report. NCAA sanctioned them out of spite
Ohio State: Actual emails where Tressel basically said IDGAF about the NCAA. NCAA sanctioned them out of spite
Penn State: covered up decades of child rape
As long as OSU plays ball with the NCAA they'll be ok. If they try and hinder the NCAA's "investigation" that is when things look bad for them.
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
We don't :cry:
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
I hope we will do this stuff. I hope we haven't been doing this stuff. Would kinda suck to find out that we have been pulling 2 and 3 star kids even after paying.
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
I hope we will do this stuff. I hope we haven't been doing this stuff. Would kinda suck to find out that we have been pulling 2 and 3 star kids even after paying.
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
We don't :cry:
we have.. the car dealerships w/ kids "working", roids, sex, tutors, etc.
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Looks like OU felt threatened by OSU's sustained success and decided to take them down.
^^^ Lead investigator/writer is an OU grad who cant stand that lil bro is on the same level as OU
They aren't on the same level
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fwiw, osu fans have an extreme inferiority complex when it comes to ou, and the fact that a boomer sooner is doing all this is going to absolutely kill them.
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fwiw, osu fans have an extreme inferiority complex when it comes to ou, and the fact that a boomer sooner is doing all this is going to absolutely kill them.
This is almost as good for OU as that time that a construction worker on Stoops house showed up in an OSU shirt and Stoops fired him on the spot.
I mean, this story is a great burn and all, but let's keep perspective.
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Let's see these recruiting hostesses :fatty:
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Let's see these recruiting hostesses :fatty:
Wasn't Bill Self's wife a recruiting hostess at OSU :surprised:
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The only thing I really had a problem with as far as today's articles is "ghost jobs". I mean, had those guys actually had to perform the work, they would have been taken care of. The pay for play model is a little sketchy, but it happens. Having boosters help student athletes in need buy groceries etc and then condemning these kids is mumped up though.
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fwiw, osu fans have an extreme inferiority complex when it comes to ou, and the fact that a boomer sooner is doing all this is going to absolutely kill them.
Some guy at Pats last season was super sad when I told him I've never been to Stillwater but have been to Norman. Then he tried to convince me we're basically sister schools, and I was all "sorry but I have to go take a crap in Jimmy Johns"
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So under normal assumptions money is the worst thing possible, but in this case it being day one of a 5 day release I don't think it is. I bet the crap that comes out is so embarrassing that Gundy gets fired and moves on to the NFL.
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So under normal assumptions money is the worst thing possible, but in this case it being day one of a 5 day release I don't think it is. I bet the crap that comes out is so embarrassing that Gundy gets fired and moves on to the NFL.
Money is the least of OSU's worries. SI knows that it will build hype for the juicy stuff.
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fwiw, osu fans have an extreme inferiority complex when it comes to ou, and the fact that a boomer sooner is doing all this is going to absolutely kill them.
Some guy at Pats last season was super sad when I told him I've never been to Stillwater but have been to Norman. Then he tried to convince me we're basically sister schools, and I was all "sorry but I have to go take a crap in Jimmy Johns"
:lol:
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Let's see these recruiting hostesses :fatty:
the one i have seen does not look good
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Let's see these recruiting hostesses :fatty:
the one i have seen does not look good
Brad posted earlier in regards to their attractiveness. This just confirms it for me.
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
If we are, we're not doing it right. :frown:
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Let's see these recruiting hostesses :fatty:
the one i have seen does not look good
Brad posted earlier in regards to their attractiveness. This just confirms it for me.
can't speak for brad but i tend to drink a lot so I may be off on my perception here
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wait never mind......nailed it!
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wait never mind......nailed it!
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Surely that is not a hostess, but someone's mom, right?
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wait never mind......nailed it!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkwtv.images.worldnow.com%2Fimages%2F23385952_BG1.jpg&hash=94a724975f773f345ca61d87b925aa8a5b59ab2b)
Surely that is not a hostess, but someone's mom, right?
http://www.news9.com/story/23385952/former-member-of-the-orange-pride-talks-about-osu-investigation
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Orange Pride
An organization that donates their time and efforts to assist with Recruiting for Oklahoma State and the Football Program.
It will be a very exciting year! We have a wonderful staff and look forward to another great recruiting season next year! Being a part of Orange Pride is a huge responsibility. You will be required to attend and work each home football game for the 2013 Football season, raise $300.00 in sponsorship money, attend weekly meetings, and work recruiting official visits, Junior Days, Coaches Clinic, etc.
http://www.okstate.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/orange-pride.html
this years crop, much better and after everything thats come out this week i laughed that this is what is on the schools website
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
We don't :cry:
we have.. the car dealerships w/ kids "working", roids, sex, tutors, etc.
Yea, I work at a dealership here in manhattan... have yet to see any players working there.
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i can't speak to the 90's but in recent years the only thing i've heard is envelopes of money, who knows how much. also freeman not getting a dui when he should have.
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
you guys do realize that they fairly recently placed sanctions on USC, Ohio St and Penn St, right?
this whole "too big for the NCAA" is stupid. maybe in basketball, but they've proven they'll issue sanctions to anyone in football. the main issue is there's absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who they punish and how hard.
Fair points on USC and Ohio State. Penn State is kind of an entirely different category though.
Ohio State is what, #2 after coming off probation? With Urban Meyer as their coach? Really stuck it to 'em.
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i can't speak to the 90's but in recent years the only thing i've heard is envelopes of money, who knows how much. also freeman not getting a dui when he should have.
I have heard that players have gotten paid for Jobs that didn't have, but all the jobs were based out of texas because it was a super elite way of cheating. :dunno:
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
you guys do realize that they fairly recently placed sanctions on USC, Ohio St and Penn St, right?
this whole "too big for the NCAA" is stupid. maybe in basketball, but they've proven they'll issue sanctions to anyone in football. the main issue is there's absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who they punish and how hard.
Fair points on USC and Ohio State. Penn State is kind of an entirely different category though.
Ohio State is what, #2 after coming off probation? With Urban Meyer as their coach? Really stuck it to 'em.
Also, OSU was able to make it so that those players could play in their bowl game if they promised to not all go pro and serve a 4 game suspension at the beginning of the following season. After promising, their QB went pro and there have since been no additional repercussions for that that I am aware of.
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Guys, I'm having a change of heart. If the NCAA takes away 2011's wins, EMAW is back to back Big 12 champs
#teamgetfuckedOSU
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i can't speak to the 90's but in recent years the only thing i've heard is envelopes of money, who knows how much. also freeman not getting a dui when he should have.
I have heard that players have gotten paid for Jobs that didn't have, but all the jobs were based out of texas because it was a super elite way of cheating. :dunno:
Holy crap that sounds better than I could dream of. Any way to get high school players in Texas jobs down there for basically the last 3 years of high school that they never have to go to? :dunno:
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Guys, I'm having a change of heart. If the NCAA takes away 2011's wins, EMAW is back to back Big fizz champs
#teamgetfuckedOSU
Incredibly astute point by Abe Froman. HANG THE BANNER FELLAS. BACK TO BACK
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Guys, I'm having a change of heart. If the NCAA takes away 2011's wins, EMAW is back to back Big fizz champs
#teamgetfuckedOSU
Incredibly astute point by Abe Froman. HANG THE BANNER FELLAS. BACK TO BACK
Stra2ght
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I'm surprised by how many former players SI got to talk.
OSU would be a great "set an example" program for the NCAA as well.
I think even OSU is too big. Nothing will come of this (major).
you guys do realize that they fairly recently placed sanctions on USC, Ohio St and Penn St, right?
this whole "too big for the NCAA" is stupid. maybe in basketball, but they've proven they'll issue sanctions to anyone in football. the main issue is there's absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who they punish and how hard.
Fair points on USC and Ohio State. Penn State is kind of an entirely different category though.
Ohio State is what, #2 after coming off probation? With Urban Meyer as their coach? Really stuck it to 'em.
what's the last "inconsequential" school they brought the hammer down on?
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SMU is the only school I've known them to issue meaningful sanctions to. By meaningful I mean actually hurt the program for more than a year or two.
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Guys, I'm having a change of heart. If the NCAA takes away 2011's wins, EMAW is back to back Big fizz champs
#teamgetfuckedOSU
Incredibly astute point by Abe Froman. HANG THE BANNER FELLAS. BACK TO BACK
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We're not cheating. If we're cheating and this is the best we can recruit... :bang:
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SMU is the only school I've known them to issue meaningful sanctions to. By meaningful I mean actually hurt the program for more than a year or two.
exactly. there's no method to the laughable sanctions they hand out, so claiming that they make examples of small schools and let "important" schools skate is baseless.
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From the writer (the semi-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) one, not the fully Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) one), was asked what is the smoking gun. His answer: OSU's method of counseling athletes with drug problems. This can't really be happening. I mean, my god.
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SMU is the only school I've known them to issue meaningful sanctions to. By meaningful I mean actually hurt the program for more than a year or two.
exactly. there's no method to the laughable sanctions they hand out, so claiming that they make examples of small schools and let "important" schools skate is baseless.
oh, ok.
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
We don't :cry:
we have.. the car dealerships w/ kids "working", roids, sex, tutors, etc.
Yea, I work at a dealership here in manhattan... have yet to see any players working there.
Have=past tense
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Great pic and all....but specifically which one of these ladies banged recruits?
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Great pic and all....but specifically which one of these ladies banged recruits?
pretty sure the one in the visor was a major slut
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I wonder how many parts the same type of story would be if it were ku basketball??
Part 1: Our best friend Doug.
Part 2: A multi-million dollar ticket scam/money laundering operation? Who knew? :dunno: (aka: what's in the envelope Brady?)
Part 3: We kept the Morris Twins eligible for 3 years.
Part 4: Barnstorming: The Post Senior Season payoff
Part 5: Walk-on's: White, rich, generally bad at basketball and your new roommate
Part 6: We had no direct contact (but an agent did).
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Great pic and all....but specifically which one of these ladies banged recruits?
pretty sure the one in the visor was a major slut
That's Kingsbury! What a rough ridin' stud.
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Great pic and all....but specifically which one of these ladies banged recruits?
Pretty safe to assume that it's all of the big booty white girls...
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well Thayer Evans comes out well in this.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
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well Thayer Evans comes out well in this.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
Thayer Evans is a terrible scrub hack reporter and I can't believe he got hired to write for Sports Illustrated.
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well Thayer Evans comes out well in this.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
Thayer Evans is a terrible scrub hack reporter and I can't believe he got hired to write for Sports Illustrated.
yeah but that troll game tho
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well Thayer Evans comes out well in this.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
I can't believe I clicked that link. I believe I may have lost a few brain cells trying to cipher out some properly worded sentences amongst all that nonsensical, terrible excuse for journalism. Yuck.
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well Thayer Evans comes out well in this.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/22190
I can't believe I clicked that link. I believe I may have lost a few brain cells trying to cipher out some properly worded sentences amongst all that nonsensical, terrible excuse for journalism. Yuck.
it's a verbatim interview
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For being a pastor, he's not a very good communicator.
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Sounds like the players didn't know they were being recorded? awesome.
Also cDub, i hope you're joking.
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So I've read most of these articles and my question is why OSU ? Surely they can find a bigger fish to fry, also most of these statements all appear pre-Gundy.
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So I've read most of these articles and my question is why OSU ? Surely they can find a bigger fish to fry, also most of these statements all appear pre-Gundy.
also it's boring as crap
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The part about recruits banging chicks being a scandal is hilarious. But secretly recording interviews is just a great twist and my primary interest at this point.
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So I've read most of these articles and my question is why OSU ? Surely they can find a bigger fish to fry, also most of these statements all appear pre-Gundy.
apparently thayer is an ou fan. i believe an outline said they wanted to find a program that had made a rapid rise.
it would be fine with me if nothing came of this except les miles getting banned.
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The part about recruits banging chicks being a scandal is hilarious. But secretly recording interviews is just a great twist and my primary interest at this point.
unless this thing gets good I hope the OSU president retracts his apology and does a crotch grab/bird flip combo.
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today's portion of the article. wow, garbage.
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And a show me the money gesture.
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow 21h
Thayer Evans did not go to OU, which actually makes him like most OU fans…lol
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So I've read most of these articles and my question is why OSU ? Surely they can find a bigger fish to fry, also most of these statements all appear pre-Gundy.
Maybe it's been said in this thread already, but I think I understand what's going here. Thayer is a T-Shirt OU fan that went to a private college in Bartlesville, OK. He's super pissed OSU is pretty damn relevant in college football now, has lots of shiny things, and wants to tear them down. It'd be like K-State Basketball doing great things and a Friends University grad that can't hide his KU stickers, getting a gig with a high visibility mag and tries to destroy our program, or at least make it look shitty.
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow 21h
Thayer Evans did not go to OU, which actually makes him like most OU fans…lol
:D
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the actual series from SI is pretty much the only uninteresting thing about this whole story
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the actual series from SI is pretty much the only uninteresting thing about this whole story
yes
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Whitlock has been at his finest this week. It's like dax in the Syria thread.
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Yeah. This really floated right into his wheelhouse.
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Orange Pride
An organization that donates their time and efforts to assist with Recruiting for Oklahoma State and the Football Program.
It will be a very exciting year! We have a wonderful staff and look forward to another great recruiting season next year! Being a part of Orange Pride is a huge responsibility. You will be required to attend and work each home football game for the 2013 Football season, raise $300.00 in sponsorship money, attend weekly meetings, and work recruiting official visits, Junior Days, Coaches Clinic, etc.
http://www.okstate.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/orange-pride.html
this years crop, much better and after everything thats come out this week i laughed that this is what is on the schools website
someone should tell them they can raise more than $300 if they'd start charging for the handies.
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mikey, get out of here
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I wonder how many parts the same type of story would be if it were ku basketball??
Part 1: Our best friend Doug.
Part 2: A multi-million dollar ticket scam/money laundering operation? Who knew? :dunno: (aka: what's in the envelope Brady?)
Part fizz: We kept the Morris Twins eligible for fizz years.
Part 4: Barnstorming: The Post Senior Season payoff
Part buzz: Walk-on's: White, rich, generally bad at basketball and your new roommate
Part fizz: We had no direct contact (but an agent did).
Funny how Roger Morningstar escaped this deal uncharged...and the dirt on his AAU connections didn't get discussed very much.
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@GSwaim 48m
Just got a text from a guy I know who works at CNN (parent company of SI) who tells me he won't be shocked if we never make it to part five.
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@GSwaim 48m
Just got a text from a guy I know who works at CNN (parent company of SI) who tells me he won't be shocked if we never make it to part five.
ha!
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Apparently some guys who are too dumb to get into college are playing college football. :dunno:
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:surprised:
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@GSwaim 48m
Just got a text from a guy I know who works at CNN (parent company of SI) who tells me he won't be shocked if we never make it to part buzz.
ha!
Gundy and the AD are both going to get fired for this, when ever thing is said and done. Also all the assistants that have been name are gone too.
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We should hire Gundy. Even if it means paying him to do nothing for a couple yrs. I mean, 4-6mil over two or three yrs while Bill finishes up would be worth it. Put some bldg on hold to do this if you have to. Then Gundy picks up from there.
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We should hire Gundy. Even if it means paying him to do nothing for a couple yrs. I mean, 4-6mil over two or three yrs while Bill finishes up would be worth it. Put some bldg on hold to do this if you have to. Then Gundy picks up from there.
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would take
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gundy will be coaching at okie lite for a long, long time you guys. stop being dumb.
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gundy will be coaching at okie lite for a long, long time you guys. stop being dumb.
Yeah, as I said upfront, this is a good thing for them in the long run and nothing major is going to happen other than bringing in huge recruits and a bunch of partying
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What I am enjoying is the group of people who are believing every word of that story while believing that the same thing doesn't happen inside their favorite college sports program.
I hope to God we do all of this stuff
We don't :cry:
yeah. I mean I know we change grades but everyone does that.
we're so lame. :frown:
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I love the tucks getting so high and mighty about this. Erik Kynard got a B in a summer class he never went to for bringing the teacher a souvenir from the Olympics, FFS.
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@GSwaim 48m
Just got a text from a guy I know who works at CNN (parent company of SI) who tells me he won't be shocked if we never make it to part buzz.
ha!
Gundy and the AD are both going to get fired for this, when ever thing is said and done. Also all the assistants that have been name are gone too.
not a chance. The AD might get some pressure, but Gundy will be fine.
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SI: what are you doing. good grief. Should not have hyped this thing.
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Anthony, Bond, Mickens and Woods say they knew teammates who got high before practice and/or games, most often before matchups with "run-over teams" like Kansas.
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They didn't have to actually name the run-over teams. Sheesh
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If nothing comes of this still how awesome of a job by Thayer. Imagine being hired by SI and using it for nothing only but trying to sniff around your rival program to find any wrong doing
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If nothing comes of this still how awesome of a job by Thayer. Imagine being hired by SI and using it for nothing only but trying to sniff around your rival program to find any wrong doing
well, so far OU fans are looking like complete dumbassas while OSU comes out of this thing looking pretty great. so I'd say pretty shitty job.
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Defensive end William Bell told SI that he was a "borderline pothead" when he arrived as a freshman in 2004 and that he quickly learned he was not alone. He saw an opportunity and began bringing marijuana from his hometown of Belton, Texas, to Stillwater, selling blunts for $10 and quarter ounces for $30. "I kept Bennett Hall hot," he says of the dormitory in which he and other athletes lived.
:sdeek:
What kind of crap Mexican shwag were these dumbasses buying? jfc
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OSU COLLEGE KIDS EXPOSED TO HARDCORE ILLICIT DRUGS!
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SI: what are you doing. good grief. Should not have hyped this thing.
It's amazing. I assume these things have to pass by someone else at SI besides the writers before it goes out the door. How did this thing get so far without someone pumping the brakes.
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http://www.lostlettermen.com/the-ok-state-expose-an-ex-si-staffers-take/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605 (http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605)
Jason Whitlock calling any other writer on earth incompetent :lol:
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http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605 (http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605)
Jason Whitlock calling any other writer on earth incompetent :lol:
Whitlock is amazing right now, and usually pretty great.
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yes re. whitlock being amazing
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Part Three might have some of the worst investigating journalism I've ever seen along with being so obviously biased against OSU. I can't believe this was suppose to be a big shocker...
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You can level all the charges you want, but you still have to write compelling copy. There's no narrative arc, no scenes, no sense of progression or creativity. It's one minor allegation after another that would be better suited in a power point.
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http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605 (http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605)
Jason Whitlock calling any other writer on earth incompetent :lol:
Whitlock is amazing right now, and usually pretty great.
I agree that JW is on the right side of it in this instance... but how often do you ever even hear a peep out of this guy when its not simply to express outrage? Being a good sports reporter and a controversial sports reporter are not one and the same. After all the emotionally charged hack jobs i've seen that guy turn out, him criticizing another reporter as "incompetent" is humorous to me.
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http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605 (http://deadspin.com/espns-jason-whitlock-slams-author-of-sis-oklahoma-sta-1286553605)
Jason Whitlock calling any other writer on earth incompetent :lol:
Whitlock is amazing right now, and usually pretty great.
I agree that JW is on the right side of it in this instance... but how often do you ever even hear a peep out of this guy when its not simply to express outrage? Being a good sports reporter and a controversial sports reporter are not one and the same. After all the emotionally charged hack jobs i've seen that guy turn out, him criticizing another reporter as "incompetent" is humorous to me.
he's pretty baller at expressing outrage though. actually, the most enjoyable people in the media and on twitter are just studs at expressing outrage.
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Yeah. His status for non-outrage stuff is not the here.
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yes re. whitlock being amazing
He hasn't been tweeting much today or late yesterday. Apparently ESPN put him in time out for telling everyone how stupid Thayer is.
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yes re. whitlock being amazing
He hasn't been tweeting much today or late yesterday. Apparently ESPN put him in time out for telling everyone how stupid Thayer is.
That would be weird since ESPN is still telling people how stupid Thayer is.
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Defensive end William Bell told SI that he was a "borderline pothead" when he arrived as a freshman in 2004 and that he quickly learned he was not alone. He saw an opportunity and began bringing marijuana from his hometown of Belton, Texas, to Stillwater, selling blunts for $buzz and quarter ounces for $30. "I kept Bennett Hall hot," he says of the dormitory in which he and other athletes lived.
:sdeek:
What kind of crap Mexican shwag were these dumbasses buying? jfc
:Yuck:
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yes re. whitlock being amazing
He hasn't been tweeting much today or late yesterday. Apparently ESPN put him in time out for telling everyone how stupid Thayer is.
That would be weird since ESPN is still telling people how stupid Thayer is.
http://deadspin.com/espn-whitlocks-thayer-evans-comments-not-acceptable-1300137905
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Didnt JW make up stuff about Beaz in a very Thayer-esque way ?
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Didnt JW make up stuff about Beaz in a very Thayer-esque way ?
Yeah, but I was joking.
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:surprised:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/12/4723902/oklahoma-state-sports-illustrated-espn
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http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2013/09/matters-of-conscience-v-matters-of-law-auburn-professor-john-carvalho-on-thayer-evans-journalism/#.UjJ0lX90lXL (http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2013/09/matters-of-conscience-v-matters-of-law-auburn-professor-john-carvalho-on-thayer-evans-journalism/#.UjJ0lX90lXL)
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Next release still not out. But SI says no changes being made. Maybe they are just busy setting up their going out of business sale.
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:facepalm: at this whole story
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Next release still not out. But SI says no changes being made. Maybe they are just busy setting up their going out of business sale.
To be released on the 17th. I thought originally it was a going to come out today. Running scared possibly?
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College athletes smoke weed and get paid? Say it ain't so!
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College athletes smoke weed and get paid? Say it ain't so!
I think everybody is missing the point of the stories.
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Next release still not out. But SI says no changes being made. Maybe they are just busy setting up their going out of business sale.
To be released on the 17th. I thought originally it was a going to come out today. Running scared possibly?
Shame on Thayer for withholding "the sex." What a prude.
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The guilt trip worked. It's up!
ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPP!!!! :drool:
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osu fans looks like defensive dweebs on facebook, even though the rest of us know it's not a big deal.
i've seen dozens of people post a story on facebook about Herbstreit cancelling his SI subscription (fake)
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osu fans looks like defensive dweebs on facebook, even though the rest of us know it's not a big deal.
i've seen dozens of people post a story on facebook about Herbstreit cancelling his SI subscription (fake)
LOL wut. Screenshot please.
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http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/kirk-herbstreit-cancels-sports-illustrated-subscription (http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/kirk-herbstreit-cancels-sports-illustrated-subscription)
it wasn't really herbie's instagram. i think the link at the end of the "story" was removed. :ROFL:
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http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/kirk-herbstreit-cancels-sports-illustrated-subscription (http://www.pistolsfiringblog.com/kirk-herbstreit-cancels-sports-illustrated-subscription)
it wasn't really herbie's instagram. i think the link at the end of the "story" was removed. :ROFL:
oh my!
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herbie posted on twitter that it isn't him. :ROFL:
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did he style his hair in a wind tunnel? good lord
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/si-video/20130913/thayer-evans-osu-report.sportsillustrated
Also, he talks weird.
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Yeah, I'd have dismissed all of this last week if they'd shown his picture during the lead-up.
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"Any idiot can post something on the internet." -Thayer Evans
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Is his hair shooting out the back? That's new to me.
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do you think there was a moment when he thought... "Man, thats it, thats the look i'm going for"
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Yeah, I'd have dismissed all of this last week if they'd shown his picture during the lead-up.
Apparently, he stores his suits in empty potato sacks on the floor of his Ford Fiesta.
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Yeah, I'd have dismissed all of this last week if they'd shown his picture during the lead-up.
Apparently, he stores his suits in empty potato sacks on the floor of his Ford Fiesta.
He's a gritty field reporter, he gets in there and gets the deep, deep crap that nobody else has the chops to dig up. He doesn't have time for your uptight dry cleaned suits. He's too rough ridin' raw for that.
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From ESPN:
University rules prohibit Orange Pride members from having sex with players or recruits, the report said.
:lol:
"Rules." :lol:
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I like how tbsOSU has taken the position that the story is overblown because the orange pride girls only occasionally had sex with recruits and a lot of the time it was only a sexual encounter. WTF?
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I like how tbsOSU has taken the position that the story is overblown because the orange pride girls only occasionally had sex with recruits and a lot of the time it was only a sexual encounter. WTF?
I'm surprised anyone is surprised about the boning... i mean read the university description, they're glorified football groupies, no crap they're boning players
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From ESPN:
University rules prohibit Orange Pride members from having sex with players or recruits, the report said.
:lol:
"Rules." :lol:
Just like there's no sex allowed in dorm study rooms. Rules. Heh.
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From ESPN:
University rules prohibit Orange Pride members from having sex with players or recruits, the report said.
:lol:
"Rules." :lol:
Just like there's no sex allowed in dorm study rooms. Rules. Heh.
:horrorsurprise:
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I for one think there should be MORE outrage at the college kids having sexual intercourse. I was shocked to read that.
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Yeah, I'd have dismissed all of this last week if they'd shown his picture during the lead-up.
I've seen that guy somewhere before...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ufocasebook.com%2F2011%2Fgiorgiotsoukalos.jpg&hash=3c0c79d89b0e3d0bd8b8bf177c369be9be5c4800)
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I almost feel a little bad that Okie State got slammed by the alleged OU fan who wrote this stuff for SI. Seems like poor journalism on SI's part. Almost as bad as if the biggest newspaper in Kansas hired a KU blogger to be their KSU beat writer.