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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Kat Kid on September 17, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
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anyone want to bet?
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Fund raiser or not Romney is a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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going to be a bloodbath. pretty big goof by a big goof, woof.
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The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
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God bless twitter for really allowing people to put comments in context.
:flush:
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The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
So you really believe that all people who pay no taxes vote D?
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The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
So you really believe that all people who pay no taxes vote D?
Well, no. I would imagine most vote D or don't vote at all.
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this is the video that cost mitt the election:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVaJu61egdo
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The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
So you really believe that all people who pay no taxes vote D?
Well, no. I would imagine most vote D or don't vote at all.
Look at income demographics and then compare the red states to the blue states.
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The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
So you really believe that all people who pay no taxes vote D?
Well, no. I would imagine most vote D or don't vote at all.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/#.UFfwM8mD6cs.mailto (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/#.UFfwM8mD6cs.mailto)
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what is this thread even about?
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nevermind.
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The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
So you really believe that all people who pay no taxes vote D?
Well, no. I would imagine most vote D or don't vote at all.
Look at income demographics and then compare the red states to the blue states.
I think that it's perceived that the "47%" would vote for Obama because he would provide them entitlements, but under a Mitt presidency it wouldn't really be much different anyway. There is little difference between the two.
The R's deserve to lose anyway. Maybe Romney came to his conscience and threw in the towel. I agree with everything he said though.
So you really believe that all people who pay no taxes vote D?
Well, no. I would imagine most vote D or don't vote at all.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/#.UFfwM8mD6cs.mailto (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/#.UFfwM8mD6cs.mailto)
I stand corrected, although that doesn't prove that the people with no liability vote for Romney.
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I stand corrected, although that doesn't prove that the people with no liability vote for Romney.
Poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible absolutely do, and Romney just spat in their faces.
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Also not paying income tax does not equal no liability. People who don't pay income tax pay other taxes and fees.
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I stand corrected, although that doesn't prove that the people with no liability vote for Romney.
Poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible absolutely do, and Romney just spat in their faces.
You're probably right. Just saying that map thing is slightly misleading. Not 100% of the people in those states are poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible
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I don't really believe that most people who don't pay federal taxes actually realize this. They do pay FICA and state taxes and I'm sure a whole lot of them probably believe they are taxed too much. Then figure in the education and income level of your typical racist, etc. and it's not hard to see that class warfare is not the problem republicans believe it is.
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I stand corrected, although that doesn't prove that the people with no liability vote for Romney.
Poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible absolutely do, and Romney just spat in their faces.
You're probably right. Just saying that map thing is slightly misleading. Not 100% of the people in those states are poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible
Of course it's not completely representative. Every state has a diverse set of populations and circumstances. But the map does illustrate the hypocrisy and weakness of Romney's general argument, which is that most blue states are full of loser parasites when really they're the states supporting a number of poor, staunchly Republican states that are sucking in the most federal money.
I mean I don't really care if this sinks Romney or not, I'm voting third party, but I like to tear down bad arguments.
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I stand corrected, although that doesn't prove that the people with no liability vote for Romney.
Poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible absolutely do, and Romney just spat in their faces.
You're probably right. Just saying that map thing is slightly misleading. Not 100% of the people in those states are poor Republicans who care disproportionately about the gays and abortion and thumping everyone over the head with the Bible
That's true, but those states have a whole lot more poor people than the other states that lean left. Rich people only get 1 vote and there really aren't a whole lot of them. Also, due to the electoral college in most states being an all or none deal, even if the poor people were voting D, they aren't winning the state, so those votes don't determine the election at all.
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But the map does illustrate the hypocrisy and weakness of Romney's general argument
This is what I was trying to say
I mean I don't really care if this sinks Romney or not, I'm voting third party, but I like to tear down bad arguments.
glad to hear this
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But the map does illustrate the hypocrisy and weakness of Romney's general argument
This is what I was trying to say
I guess I just got a little confused when you said that you agreed with everything he said, then. :cheers:
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But the map does illustrate the hypocrisy and weakness of Romney's general argument
This is what I was trying to say
I guess I just got a little confused when you said that you agreed with everything he said, then. :cheers:
The conversation has evolved since 30 minutes ago. And I've had my melatonin :zzz:
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Also not paying income tax does not equal no liability. People who don't pay income tax pay other taxes and fees.
Yeah.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/07/taxes-and-rich-0 (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/07/taxes-and-rich-0)
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Just goes to show you what dickbags all of these guys are. None of them care about anything other than winning the election and gaining power. Obama doesn't care about the middle class and the poor and Romney doesn't care about the middle class and the rich.
I am not sure how much any of this matters anyway. People are so stupid they will probably forget about this by the time they decide if they are going to vote or not. I mean, it was a video that wasn't a part of the plot of a popular TV show or a new reality show anyway.
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Mitt had no chance before this video surfaced. All he's doing is saying what all Republicans believe anyway--they pound this exact same message every day on TV and radio. Just like Todd Akin stated the Republican position on abortion.
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Republicans wanted to beat Obama, but the nominated a guy that is unelectable. Should have gone with that old guy.
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Mitt had no chance before this video surfaced. All he's doing is saying what all Republicans believe anyway--they pound this exact same message every day on TV and radio. Just like Todd Akin stated the Republican position on abortion.
:facepalm:
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Hey, another day, another Romney video of him saying stupid crap.
article
http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/17/2493188/romney-shifts-message-to-challenge.html#storylink=omni_popular (http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/17/2493188/romney-shifts-message-to-challenge.html#storylink=omni_popular)
video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukhFBJgrZxM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukhFBJgrZxM)
Looking forward to another passive-aggressive EMAWmeister post with either
:facepalm: or :flush:
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Just goes to show you what dickbags all of these guys are. None of them care about anything other than winning the election and gaining power. Obama doesn't care about the middle class and the poor and Romney doesn't care about the middle class and the rich.
I am not sure how much any of this matters anyway. People are so stupid they will probably forget about this by the time they decide if they are going to vote or not. I mean, it was a video that wasn't a part of the plot of a popular TV show or a new reality show anyway.
This pretty much sums American politics up.
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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/09/mitts-forty-seven-per-cent-problem.html
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nice one, sluke dave.
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Good one luke dave
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I'll allow it
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I thought this was a good article: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/opinion/brooks-thurston-howell-romney.xml
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Hey, another day, another Romney video of him saying stupid crap.
article
http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/17/2493188/romney-shifts-message-to-challenge.html#storylink=omni_popular (http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/17/2493188/romney-shifts-message-to-challenge.html#storylink=omni_popular)
video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukhFBJgrZxM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ukhFBJgrZxM)
Looking forward to another passive-aggressive EMAWmeister post with either
:facepalm: or :flush:
I have no problem with your post, but theKSU's post was mindnumbingly stupid.
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Some serious wishful thinking on the part of dems if they think this "guns and religion"-lite remark is the end of the election. The economy still blows, foreign policy in the shitter, and most people still have enough self respect to want to pay taxes (eg go to work) than sit on their ass.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/democrats-think-romney-just-self-destructed-by-pointing-out-um-their-entire-strategy/
I do understand your excitement though. B.O. is hopelessly awful, so your best bet is to hope the other candidate fucks up enough to cover up the glaring incompetent you put in office. Should be a great election. :flush:
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Will FSD have a meltdown if Romney doesn't win?
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Some serious wishful thinking on the part of dems if they think this "guns and religion"-lite remark is the end of the election. The economy still blows, foreign policy in the shitter, and most people still have enough self respect to want to pay taxes (eg go to work) than sit on their ass.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/democrats-think-romney-just-self-destructed-by-pointing-out-um-their-entire-strategy/
I do understand your excitement though. B.O. is hopelessly awful, so your best bet is to hope the other candidate fucks up enough to cover up the glaring incompetent you put in office. Should be a great election. :flush:
fwiw, our foreign policy has been in the shitter for 60 years.
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Some serious wishful thinking on the part of dems if they think this "guns and religion"-lite remark is the end of the election. The economy still blows, foreign policy in the shitter, and most people still have enough self respect to want to pay taxes (eg go to work) than sit on their ass.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/democrats-think-romney-just-self-destructed-by-pointing-out-um-their-entire-strategy/
I do understand your excitement though. B.O. is hopelessly awful, so your best bet is to hope the other candidate fucks up enough to cover up the glaring incompetent you put in office. Should be a great election. :flush:
You wanna take the Under?
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It's a good point. The Republicans' are complaining that the poor and elderly aren't paying enough in taxes. They want to raise taxes on everyone except for the top end earners--AKA the ones who have benefited from 93% of income gains this century. Romney and the Republicans know already that the elderly are not likely to be undecided, and the poor probably aren't paying attention to the political noise or are also not undecided.
I'm not outraged at all by what Romney said in the tape. It's refreshing when politicians tell the truth. Oh yeah if you're a college student you're probably not paying "income taxes" (just payroll taxes), so you're a rough ridin' freeloader who needs your taxes raised too. Why don't you get a loan from your parents to help pay for them?
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with so many ratings bonanzas to be had, don't give up yet, damnit. I'll take the under because this just has to be a horserace. It has to. It has to.
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I think you'd get more action if you set it at 337. I'd take the under in that scenario.
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Some serious wishful thinking on the part of dems if they think this "guns and religion"-lite remark is the end of the election. The economy still blows, foreign policy in the shitter, and most people still have enough self respect to want to pay taxes (eg go to work) than sit on their ass.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/democrats-think-romney-just-self-destructed-by-pointing-out-um-their-entire-strategy/
I do understand your excitement though. B.O. is hopelessly awful, so your best bet is to hope the other candidate fucks up enough to cover up the glaring incompetent you put in office. Should be a great election. :flush:
someone is getting really butthurt that his guy isn't gonna win.
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I think you'd get more action if you set it at 337. I'd take the under in that scenario.
315 is where I would set it.
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The fact that both of you have suggested higher numbers than me, but not threatened to bet means I probably have it right.
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there's a haiku in this thread somewhere
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The Fake Sugar Dick
Always chock full of butthurt
Should take a xanax
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chunkles the hero
you are above this board man
don't get dragged in here
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steve dave likes cartoons
he posts them to enrage 'pubs
so much mad, so sad.
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The EMAWmeister
Passive aggressive or bold?
A facepalm appears
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steve dave likes cartoons
he posts them to enrage 'pubs
so much mad, so sad.
:thumbs:
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The fact that both of you have suggested higher numbers than me, but not threatened to bet means I probably have it right.
kk makes a good point here folks
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The EMAWmeister
Passive aggressive or bold?
A facepalm appears
:runaway:
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i want a haiku done about me, 42
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The fact that both of you have suggested higher numbers than me, but not threatened to bet means I probably have it right.
The longer this thing stretches out, the wider the gap is going to get. I'd take the money on 300 now.
Once Romney gets to the debates, he's not only going to lose independents, he's going to create an even more apathetic base.
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Panjandrum, expert.
The realignment guru.
Politics? A muse.
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Sorry O-K-Cat
I am not good with requests
Try again later
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The Fake Sugar Dick
Always chock full of butthurt
Should take a xanax
Butt Hurt Hur Hur Hur
Hur Hur Hur Hur Hur Hur Hur
Butt Hurt HUR hur
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Panjandrum, expert.
The realignment guru.
Politics? A muse.
:blush:
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42 a squawk
attempts PI, but does fail
always fail, poor squawk
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The Fake Sugar Dick
Always chock full of butthurt
Should take a xanax
Butt Hurt Hur Hur Hur
Hur Hur Hur Hur Hur Hur Hur
Butt Hurt HUR hur
That was almost a haiku, but you screwed it up.
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Some serious wishful thinking on the part of dems if they think this "guns and religion"-lite remark is the end of the election. The economy still blows, foreign policy in the shitter, and most people still have enough self respect to want to pay taxes (eg go to work) than sit on their ass.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/democrats-think-romney-just-self-destructed-by-pointing-out-um-their-entire-strategy/
I do understand your excitement though. B.O. is hopelessly awful, so your best bet is to hope the other candidate fucks up enough to cover up the glaring incompetent you put in office. Should be a great election. :flush:
No it isn't about this at all, its about Mitt Romney being a complete bumblefuck that says things that further disenfranchises moderates who are meh about Obama. At the very same time he is doing a much better job of firing up and broadening Obama's base better than BHO can do himself. Fellow Republicans are rightfully calling Romney a dumbass, you hear any Dems calling out Obama? Every time Mitt opens his mouth his base turn-out shrinks with the resignation that he is getting shelled.
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Some serious wishful thinking on the part of dems if they think this "guns and religion"-lite remark is the end of the election. The economy still blows, foreign policy in the shitter, and most people still have enough self respect to want to pay taxes (eg go to work) than sit on their ass.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/democrats-think-romney-just-self-destructed-by-pointing-out-um-their-entire-strategy/
I do understand your excitement though. B.O. is hopelessly awful, so your best bet is to hope the other candidate fucks up enough to cover up the glaring incompetent you put in office. Should be a great election. :flush:
No it isn't about this at all, its about Mitt Romney being a complete bumblefuck that says things that further disenfranchises moderates who are meh about Obama. At the very same time he is doing a much better job of firing up and broadening Obama's base better than BHO can do himself. Fellow Republicans are rightfully calling Romney a dumbass, you hear any Dems calling out Obama? Every time Mitt opens his mouth his base turn-out shrinks with the resignation that he is getting shelled.
While I understand why you Hope and wish this happens, its far from a sure thing. Maybe what you say will/has happen(ed) and maybe Romney will cont to shoot himself in the foot. Alternatively, maybe this honesty
and candor will earn him points and rally a base desperate for him to stop being so nice to the most worthless president in the modern era. Even worse for the libs, maybe people actually care about real issues. Recent polling say I am right and you are wrong.
We will see. Really, who the eff is going to see, be offended and change their views on the race?
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Romney is a crappy candidate. Obama has got this thing unless he really freaks out.
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i think obama could stay silent (about the campaign directly) until the election and still win easily
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things that happen, and fade from the public discussion, more than two weeks before the election basically have no effect on anything.
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things that happen, and fade from the public discussion, more than two weeks before the election basically have no effect on anything.
I agree, but these things seem to be happening to Romney and other republicans on a weekly basis, with no signs of stopping before the election rolls around.
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The fact that both of you have suggested higher numbers than me, but not threatened to bet means I probably have it right.
The longer this thing stretches out, the wider the gap is going to get. I'd take the money on 300 now.
Once Romney gets to the debates, he's not only going to lose independents, he's going to create an even more apathetic base.
welp
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with so many ratings bonanzas to be had, don't give up yet, damnit. I'll take the under because this just has to be a horserace. It has to. It has to.
welp
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http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/oct-10-is-romney-leading-right-now/ (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/oct-10-is-romney-leading-right-now/)
Update
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silver is so good.
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The fact that both of you have suggested higher numbers than me, but not threatened to bet means I probably have it right.
The longer this thing stretches out, the wider the gap is going to get. I'd take the money on 300 now.
Once Romney gets to the debates, he's not only going to lose independents, he's going to create an even more apathetic base.
welp
Yeah...
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Update:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html)
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So when they shade FL, CO, VA, MO, and NC red later this week do we change the numeral in the thread title to 200?
Mods? MODS?!?
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Looks like Romney got another good bump from Tuesday's debate that Obama won.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html)
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Looks like Romney got another good bump from Tuesday's debate that Obama won.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html)
I believe these polls are averaged over a rolling three day period, so i would say saturdays results would be the first to reflect any movement from the debate
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Looks like Romney got another good bump from Tuesday's debate that Obama won.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html)
I believe these polls are averaged over a rolling three day period, so i would say saturdays results would be the first to reflect any movement from the debate
I don't think it's going matter, wetwillie. All that matters now is the economy.
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Under
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Under
lol, way over
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com (http://www.realclearpolitics.com)
Willard has the lead in only 2 battlegrounds and his lead in Florida is only 1.5%. If the turnout isn't good for the Rs, he may get rolled worse than McCain did. I guess as we are nearing election day the republican base are having a hard time mustering up the energy for this guy they hated last winter.
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Romney has a huge lead in the independent vote. 59% to 35%
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Romney has a huge lead in the independent vote polling. 59% to 35%
I hate people who quote popular vote poll numbers. That being said if McCain had that margin he still would have lost the popular vote in '08. I'm sure you knew that though.
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Romney has a huge lead in the independent vote polling. 59% to 35%
I hate people who quote popular vote poll numbers. That being said if McCain had that margin he still would have lost the popular vote in '08. I'm sure you knew that though.
It's all about getting the Independents and getting your base out. Right now it is equal as far as getting the base out between President Obama and Romney, and every poll I see the Independents are going Romney's way. In 08 President Obama had Independents and his base by a good margin.
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Under
lol, way over
Okay! :D
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Romney has a huge lead in the independent vote polling. 59% to 35%
I hate people who quote popular vote poll numbers. That being said if McCain had that margin he still would have lost the popular vote in '08. I'm sure you knew that though.
It's all about getting the Independents and getting your base out. Right now it is equal as far as getting the base out between President Obama and Romney, and every poll I see the Independents are going Romney's way. In 08 President Obama had Independents and his base by a good margin.
Obama has a much larger ground game in states like Ohio and Florida than Romney. He also had a significant advantage in early voting in most of the swing states. That doesn't mean Romney can't win, but it will be incredibly difficult to do so.
Ironically, Romney was more hurt than helped by voter ID laws in places like Pennsylvania and Florida. Both states passed harsh laws that were eventually weakened by the courts and ultimately served as motivation for the same people the laws tried to disenfranchise.
Should be a fun night.
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Romney has a huge lead in the independent vote polling. 59% to 35%
I hate people who quote popular vote poll numbers. That being said if McCain had that margin he still would have lost the popular vote in '08. I'm sure you knew that though.
Right now it is equal as far as getting the base out between President Obama and Romney
You nor anyone else knows this, JFC stop making up crap for the sake of saying something.
Also was your post supposed to be a rebuttal to my previous post, if so complete non-sequitur.
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Intrade says I should take the over, so I'll take the over. 'Grats Barry
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Being disenfranchised due to voter id laws is a completely different level of butthurt.
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I think it would be great if Romney won the popular vote and Obama ends up winning the election. Maybe then we could get rid of the electoral college.
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I think it would be great if Romney won the popular vote and Obama ends up winning the election. Maybe then we could get rid of the electoral college.
Then I could care about my presidential vote! And presidents might even campaign in Kansas! :D
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I think it would be great if Romney won the popular vote and Obama ends up winning the election. Maybe then we could get rid of the electoral college.
Then I could care about my presidential vote! And presidents might even campaign in Kansas! :D
Yeah, it would be pretty great. I'm actually considering voting for Romney today because the polling makes it look like this may be a possibility.
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I think it would be great if Romney won the popular vote and Obama ends up winning the election. Maybe then we could get rid of the electoral college.
Then I could care about my presidential vote! And presidents might even campaign in Kansas! :D
Yeah, it would be pretty great. I'm actually considering voting for Romney today because the polling makes it look like this may be a possibility.
This would be fantastic. All time levels of butt hurt would occur
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I think it would be great if Romney won the popular vote and Obama ends up winning the election. Maybe then we could get rid of the electoral college.
Then I could care about my presidential vote! And presidents might even campaign in Kansas! :D
Maybe they'll go to a BCS type system. Electoral College, Popular Vote, and Computers all weighted equally at 1/3!
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I think it would be great if Romney won the popular vote and Obama ends up winning the election. Maybe then we could get rid of the electoral college.
Then I could care about my presidential vote! And presidents might even campaign in Kansas! :D
Yeah, it would be pretty great. I'm actually considering voting for Romney today because the polling makes it look like this may be a possibility.
Would be a great troll if all the dems in obviously red states voted Romney to make this happen. Should have started organizing this earlier. Could be goEMAWs biggest trophy yet in 2016.
Edit: 'Grats on 10K NK!
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the electoral college is a great thing, tards.
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the electoral college is a great thing, tards.
How so?
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without it, the candidates will focus all of their time in california, texas, etc. even worse than they do now.
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without it, the candidates will focus all of their time in california, texas, etc. even worse than they do now.
IDGAF if the presidential candidates make a stop in Kansas or any other state. If anything, it would be nice to see the candidates actually campaign in areas where they can reach the most people, rather than focus on loser "battleground" states like Ohio.
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without it, the candidates will focus all of their time in california, texas, etc. even worse than they do now.
Candidates don't campaign in California at all.
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without it, the candidates will focus all of their time in california, texas, etc. even worse than they do now.
IDGAF if the presidential candidates make a stop in Kansas or any other state. If anything, it would be nice to see the candidates actually campaign in areas where they can reach the most people, rather than focus on loser "battleground" states like Ohio.
i'm just assuming (maybe i'm wrong) that there would still be battleground states...they would just be the bigger states instead of iowa and ohio.
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without it, the candidates will focus all of their time in california, texas, etc. even worse than they do now.
Candidates don't campaign in California at all.
i didn't specifically mean california. just saying that i think that smaller population states would mean even less to candidates if there wasn't an electoral college.
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without it, the candidates will focus all of their time in california, texas, etc. even worse than they do now.
IDGAF if the presidential candidates make a stop in Kansas or any other state. If anything, it would be nice to see the candidates actually campaign in areas where they can reach the most people, rather than focus on loser "battleground" states like Ohio.
i'm just assuming (maybe i'm wrong) that there would still be battleground states...they would just be the bigger states instead of iowa and ohio.
I'm sure they would focus in larger states, but everything would be a whole lot different. It wouldn't really matter who wins California. The margin of victory is what would matter. It would be interesting to see how candidates approach that.
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i guess no electoral college would benefit local races and state questions, because more people would show up to vote. :dunno:
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OK_Cat, do you think tennis scoring is stupid?
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OK_Cat, do you think tennis scoring is stupid?
ok_cat fun fact: i've never watched a minute of tennis in my life
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Romney has a huge lead in the independent vote polling. 59% to 35%
I hate people who quote popular vote poll numbers. That being said if McCain had that margin he still would have lost the popular vote in '08. I'm sure you knew that though.
I find that poll to be kind of sketchy. Due to the divisiveness of the country, it seems like there are less and less independents, and those that do exist are conservatives who won't vote Republican because of social issues, evangelicals, etc. (e.g. me).
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OK_Cat, do you think tennis scoring is stupid?
ok_cat fun fact: i've never watched a minute of tennis in my life
I've never watched a minute of electoral college-ing in my life, but I understand how it works and why it exists.
Skipping down to Ft. Worth?
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Being disenfranchised due to voter id laws is a completely different level of butthurt.
While true, Florida ended early voting on the Sunday before the election because black churches traditionally "got out the vote" after morning services. That made a lot of people who weren't as enthused in 2012 as they were in 2008 to suddenly become that much more motivated.
It's like Dax's butthurt over foreign policy, except it actually might make a difference.
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OK_Cat, do you think tennis scoring is stupid?
ok_cat fun fact: i've never watched a minute of tennis in my life
I've never watched a minute of electoral college-ing in my life, but I understand how it works and why it exists.
Skipping down to Ft. Worth?
i wouldn't be caught dead in ft worth.
another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
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Being disenfranchised due to voter id laws is a completely different level of butthurt.
While true, Florida ended early voting on the Sunday before the election because black churches traditionally "got out the vote" after morning services. That made a lot of people who weren't as enthused in 2012 as they were in 2008 to suddenly become that much more motivated.
It's like Dax's butthurt over foreign policy, except it actually might make a difference.
The right wing politicians in Florida don't even try to hide how horribly corrupt they are. It's kind of humorous.
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Being disenfranchised due to voter id laws is a completely different level of butthurt.
old people who have voted for 50+ years should not be required to go get govt. issued ID's to vote it is asinine.
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
:sdeek:
Grandpa 8manpick is a huge proponent of this. Sorry about the phone calls.
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yep, same way.
dear state of oklahoma, yes, i would like to keep the department of human services intact.
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
I've only gotten anti-fluoride phone calls & I've now gotten them four consecutive days. It's funny to me because whatever list they have me on is comically wrong, I'm a volunteer for pro-fluoride.
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what do they have against fluoride?
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what do they have against fluoride?
invented by liberals
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
I've only gotten anti-fluoride phone calls & I've now gotten them four consecutive days. It's funny to me because whatever list they have me on is comically wrong, I'm a volunteer for pro-fluoride.
Have they proven that there are more cavities in Wichita?
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
I've only gotten anti-fluoride phone calls & I've now gotten them four consecutive days. It's funny to me because whatever list they have me on is comically wrong, I'm a volunteer for pro-fluoride.
Have they proven that there are more cavities in Wichita?
I think it would be easy enough to prove that there are less teeth in the south, where fluoride is much less likely to be added to water than in other parts of the country.
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
I've only gotten anti-fluoride phone calls & I've now gotten them four consecutive days. It's funny to me because whatever list they have me on is comically wrong, I'm a volunteer for pro-fluoride.
Have they proven that there are more cavities in Wichita?
I think it would be easy enough to prove that there are less teeth in the south, where fluoride is much less likely to be added to water than in other parts of the country.
I would argue that there are fewer toothbrushes per capita in the south.
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what do they have against fluoride?
Its toxic. It can explode. Look it up on the internet.
My MIL. GRHS.
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another thought: they should put a restriction on how long they can campaign. I saw that they both gave speeches yesterday. Do you really feel like there is anyone who is undecided a day before the election? :dubious:
The more campaigning, the more I'm turned off. If I hadn't already mailed mine in, I'd have voted against fluoride in Wichita water because of all the phone calls.
I've only gotten anti-fluoride phone calls & I've now gotten them four consecutive days. It's funny to me because whatever list they have me on is comically wrong, I'm a volunteer for pro-fluoride.
Have they proven that there are more cavities in Wichita?
hasn't been studied, not the point. It's sad that the tea party has made fluoride a partisan issue, fluoride. Someone is going to tell these idiots that 911 is a government intrusion then we'll have a groundswell to kill it too.
SD, they are contending that fluoride is:
1. Big government intervention
2. Poison that is harmful to kids & pets.
I'm in no way joking or being facetious about this.
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fwiw fluoride is in a compound that is a huge part of Prozac
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a huge part of Prozac
lol, that's fantastic science Pike!
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waiting for someone to argue against dhmo :flush:
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I remember when my town had a fluoride issue a few years ago. I couldn't tell why the dentists were in favor of it. :dunno:
Also about tonight: :cheers: :dance: :emawkid: :popcorn: :bigtoke:
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271-267
under
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271-267
under
it's gonna be a bigger ass-kicking than that.
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My well on the farm i grew up on, had fluoride added. I have never had a cavity or major dental work but I think it made me restarted so I'm on the fluoride fence.
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271-267
under
it's gonna be a bigger ass-kicking than that.
Agreed
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271-267
under
it's gonna be a bigger ass-kicking than that.
Agreed
not so fast, john teach me how to dougie! :D
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ever since that john learned how to dougie he's been a sly one
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I'm gonna pick the under if its not to late to get my pick in
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already not looking good for ole mitt
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already not looking good for ole mitt
stop watching MSNBC.
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already not looking good for ole mitt
could be a quick night after all
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Is this where election talk can go?
If Obama wins Florida everyone might as well go ahead and go to bed.
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Obama 64 / 40 Romney per CNN
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already not looking good for ole mitt
stop watching MSNBC.
i am watching abc, because i enjoy their on-air personalities.
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:dance:
this is already an ass beating, the exit polls :love: BTW I'm watching FOX & CNN
Love the excuses, waaahhh not enough white people voted, waaahhhh Sandy slowed our momentum. I'm going to be a real bad winner BTW.
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what time should i start popping my popcorn? i really want to kick back, open up facebook, and eat it during the biggest part of the meltdown. 8? 8:30? 9?
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:dance:
this is already an ass beating, the exit polls :love: BTW I'm watching FOX & CNN
Love the excuses, waaahhh not enough white people voted, waaahhhh Sandy slowed our momentum. I'm going to be a real bad winner BTW.
Is it really that apparent already? The last two elections I was too drunk to make sense of the numbers. From what I've gathered so far, if O gets Ohio and another big swing state it's over.
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what time should i start popping my popcorn? i really want to kick back, open up facebook, and eat it during the biggest part of the meltdown. 8? 8:30? 9?
Closer to 9 prolly
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Is it really that apparent already? The last two elections I was too drunk to make sense of the numbers. From what I've gathered so far, if O gets Ohio and another big swing state it's over.
I think most people thought Romney would win Florida. If he doesn't he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. And right now, it's not looking good for him.
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:dance:
this is already an ass beating, the exit polls :love: BTW I'm watching FOX & CNN
Love the excuses, waaahhh not enough white people voted, waaahhhh Sandy slowed our momentum. I'm going to be a real bad winner BTW.
hey look, mir voted for obama, what a surprise.
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BENGHAZI! PAUL RYAN! OBAMACARE! THESE ISSUES WERE NOT DISCUSSED ENOUGH! HE DIDN'T GO ON TALK RADIO!
-Laura Ingrahm on Fox
:lol:
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Didn't get enough of the vote from people of color, real words by mike huckabee
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Intrade says it's over folks
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wetwillie was pretty on-target for a 9pm meltdown. lots of "please pray for this country" and "we need ohio bad!" type stuff so far. nothing too bad. the only sore loser one so far is "i haven't seen a single american flag at the obama headquarters"
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The only people posting political stuff on my FB page are liberal. Weird.
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wetwillie was pretty on-target for a 9pm meltdown. lots of "please pray for this country" and "we need ohio bad!" type stuff so far. nothing too bad. the only sore loser one so far is "i haven't seen a single american flag at the obama headquarters"
lol i was going to mention this too. wetwillie nailed it
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Well, Nate Silver is certainly getting his dick sucked by twitter at a record setting level.
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not surprised that the losery big 10 states are big fans of the losery democratic party. birds of a feather.
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Bill O'reilly had a nice meltdown
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seems like everything romney didn't want to happen is happening so far :thumbs:
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sarah palin seems to be melting down pretty hard
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CNN is being ultra conservative in their projections. They called NH twenty minutes after everyone else. They still haven't called WI or MN and FOX called them a half hour ago.
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
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fox news is already discussing how the next 4 years have already failed and that this country is stupid
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
the country has spoken, 4 more years.
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
No. I just rough ridin' hate the Republicans after they shunned Ron Paul. But that's for another thread
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We only have the trend to go off.
The only way they got unemployment below 8% was to lop off millions or really add millions to the ranks of those no longer seeking jobs.
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
explain? Frankly Obama is not nearly liberal enough for me, I'll take what I can get until Hillary in '16.
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
the country has spoken, 4 more years.
I'm aware. No fan of Romney here. Just surprised how many people value fairness (he can't make things fair) over freedom and are ok with massive deficits and big government. Obama promised peace in 2008 and my friend has gone to war twice. He has a fight first foreign policy and is no friend of civil liberties and has kept the drug war roaring.
I'm just perplexed by it all. I'm not entirely sure what values/policies/achievements of the president make him so appealing.
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yes, definitely hillary in 16.
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I don't get it either, one of the biggest carrot and stick presidencies in history . . . to huge swaths of his supporters, yet they just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and oh, if it would have been Hillary and Romney, I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband . . . twice.
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I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband
:sdeek:
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
the country has spoken, 4 more years.
I'm aware. No fan of Romney here. Just surprised how many people value fairness (he can't make things fair) over freedom and are ok with massive deficits and big government. Obama promised peace in 2008 and my friend has gone to war twice. He has a fight first foreign policy and is no friend of civil liberties and has kept the drug war roaring.
I'm just perplexed by it all. I'm not entirely sure what values/policies/achievements of the president make him so appealing.
Obama was quite clear that he was getting out of Iraq and was going to focus on Afghanistan. The military is voluntary, certainly your buddy knows this.
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Townie Unofficial Final results: Hawk and Carlin win.
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But the U.S. isn't really out of Iraq, anyone who thinks we are is just rough ridin' stupid.
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
explain? Frankly Obama is not nearly liberal enough for me, I'll take what I can get until Hillary in '16.
Chris christie is going to be tough if he can get out of the crazy people primaries.
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I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband
:sdeek:
Hey Dax is lying again! Hillary is indisputably more liberal than Obama. Is it the half black thing?
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the only reason Obama is winning is because of poor people.
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
explain? Frankly Obama is not nearly liberal enough for me, I'll take what I can get until Hillary in '16.
Chris christie is going to be tough if he can get out of the crazy people primaries.
His mouth & health will get him in a lot of trouble. And frankly I don't think he'll pull a McCain & Romney and move right of center just to garner votes.
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Really enjoying fox news' voter fraud segments.
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I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband
:sdeek:
Hey Dax is lying again! Hillary is indisputably more liberal than Obama. Is it the half black thing?
Hillary is not liberal when it comes to foreign policy, in terms of being a war monger she's in lock step with Obama and Romney. Her domestic agenda while Liberal is vastly more palatable to what we're going to get from Barry.
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also, judging by the car thread, i'm not surprised that goEMAW is pro-democrat. this board is riddled with poors (short for poor people)
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
the country has spoken, 4 more years.
I'm aware. No fan of Romney here. Just surprised how many people value fairness (he can't make things fair) over freedom and are ok with massive deficits and big government. Obama promised peace in 2008 and my friend has gone to war twice. He has a fight first foreign policy and is no friend of civil liberties and has kept the drug war roaring.
I'm just perplexed by it all. I'm not entirely sure what values/policies/achievements of the president make him so appealing.
Obama was quite clear that he was getting out of Iraq and was going to focus on Afghanistan. The military is voluntary, certainly your buddy knows this.
True statements. My friend has chosen his course in life. The things I give credit to the president about are his approach in Iraq and the killing of Bin Laden. My post was more pointing out that he is portrayed as a person of peace, and his actions as Commander in Chief would seem to discredit that. I think the president deserves more criticism for what is going on with the drone strikes than he is receiving.
For the record I think Romney's foreign policy would've been much more destructive globally.
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Karl Rove is pissing me off, he won't meltdown he just keeps trying to rationalize.
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low election iq here, but how often does a guy win the home states of his competitors?
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Gore didn't win Tenn.
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I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband
:sdeek:
Hey Dax is lying again! Hillary is indisputably more liberal than Obama. Is it the half black thing?
Her domestic agenda while Liberal is vastly more palatable to what we're going to get from Barry.
man you need to read more
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You guys really do like Obama don't you? Seems odd to me.
explain? Frankly Obama is not nearly liberal enough for me, I'll take what I can get until Hillary in '16.
Chris christie is going to be tough if he can get out of the crazy people primaries.
His mouth & health will get him in a lot of trouble. And frankly I don't think he'll pull a McCain & Romney and move right of center just to garner votes.
No, he won't, which is why he may never make it out of the primaries. If he can though, it will be the best general election candidate they have put out in a while.
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low election iq here, but how often does a guy win the home states of his competitors?
I dont think kenya has any electoral votes
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Karl Rove is pissing me off, he won't meltdown he just keeps trying to rationalize.
He won't budge. Sarah Palin on the other hand...
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Gore didn't win Tenn.
did he win his vp's state? (completely forgot who his vp candidate was, and i voted for them)
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Don't think clinton got pigaggie.
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low election iq here, but how often does a guy win the home states of his competitors?
I dont think kenya has any electoral votes
yeah, romney can't win kenya b/c kenya is not a state in the united states
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oh i get it, cause obama is black
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low election iq here, but how often does a guy win the home states of his competitors?
The problem with being a phony and having four home states is that you don't really connect anywhere. Also worth noting that while he always touts his time as governor, he was very unpopular in Massachusetts and would have lost if he attempted reelection. His lieutenant governor lost the election by 20 percent.
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I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband
:sdeek:
Hey Dax is lying again! Hillary is indisputably more liberal than Obama. Is it the half black thing?
Her domestic agenda while Liberal is vastly more palatable to what we're going to get from Barry.
man you need to read more
That from the guy who thinks we got out of Iraq.
As long as there's a true conservative Congress, she'll be just like her husband. If not, then yes, it could be really scary. But IMO less scary than what this guy's agenda is, I really do believe that on some levels this guy really doesn't like this country.
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Gore didn't win Tenn.
did he win his vp's state? (completely forgot who his vp candidate was, and i voted for them)
last time a ticket lost the home states of both their pres/vp candidates was McGovern/Shriver in '72.
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Gore didn't win Tenn.
did he win his vp's state? (completely forgot who his vp candidate was, and i voted for them)
last time a ticket lost the home states of both their pres/vp candidates was McGovern/Shriver in '72.
:horrorsurprise:
pretty embarassing for republicans
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Gore didn't win Tenn.
did he win his vp's state? (completely forgot who his vp candidate was, and i voted for them)
last time a ticket lost the home states of both their pres/vp candidates was McGovern/Shriver in '72.
:horrorsurprise:
pretty embarassing for republicans
yeah, losing socialist/union big 10 loser states michigan and wisconsin is a huge embarrassment. it would embarrassing to win those states
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I would have voted for Hillary, just like I voted for her husband
:sdeek:
Hey Dax is lying again! Hillary is indisputably more liberal than Obama. Is it the half black thing?
Her domestic agenda while Liberal is vastly more palatable to what we're going to get from Barry.
man you need to read more
That from the guy who thinks we got out of Iraq.
As long as there's a true conservative Congress, she'll be just like her husband. If not, then yes, it could be really scary. But IMO less scary than what this guy's agenda is, I really do believe that on some levels this guy really doesn't like this country.
Yes you're right, the one casualty in Iraq this year is clearly indicative that we're fighting a war there. We have troops in Germany, Kuwait, Korea, and Japan amongst other countries; are we fighting wars in these places too?
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Gaining in Florida :ohno:
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Well gee MIR, there are still troops in Iraq, the State Department is built their own private little army. Back in August and Sept. the U.S. SENT (more) troops back to Iraq because of the Obama/Hillary proxy war in Syria.
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Yeah so the answer is that there isn't a war in Iraq. Thanks, move on.
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Yeah so the answer is that there isn't a war in Iraq. Thanks, move on.
Oh yeah, no war in Iraq:
33 Killed as Suicide Car Bomber Hits Iraqi Army Base
Toll Expected to Rise With Many Gravely Wounded
by Jason Ditz, November 06, 2012
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4 more years, 4 more years :emawkid:
victory: america
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its been a rough night for me and the other 1%'ers. oh well :cool:
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Gore didn't win Tenn.
did he win his vp's state? (completely forgot who his vp candidate was, and i voted for them)
last time a ticket lost the home states of both their pres/vp candidates was McGovern/Shriver in '72.
:horrorsurprise:
pretty embarassing for republicans
Romney won Utah, which was one of his home states.
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mormonville
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I'm going to go buy a crap ton of candy and soda on my Vision card, and 5 blunts with my debit card and celebrate. God bless America!!!!!!!!!!
Four more years! Four more years! :excited:
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low election iq here, but how often does a guy win the home states of his competitors?
The problem with being a phony and having four home states is that you don't really connect anywhere. Also worth noting that while he always touts his time as governor, he was very unpopular in Massachusetts and would have lost if he attempted reelection. His lieutenant governor lost the election by 20 percent.
I liked it when a pundit expressing surprise that Romney did so poorly in New Hampshire considering he has a summer home there.
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maybe next time, jill :cry:
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Yeah so the answer is that there isn't a war in Iraq. Thanks, move on.
Oh yeah, no war in Iraq:
33 Killed as Suicide Car Bomber Hits Iraqi Army Base
Toll Expected to Rise With Many Gravely Wounded
by Jason Ditz, November 06, 2012
We have army bases in Europe, but I wouldn't say we are at war over there.
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low election iq here, but how often does a guy win the home states of his competitors?
The problem with being a phony and having four home states is that you don't really connect anywhere. Also worth noting that while he always touts his time as governor, he was very unpopular in Massachusetts and would have lost if he attempted reelection. His lieutenant governor lost the election by 20 percent.
I liked it when a pundit expressing surprise that Romney did so poorly in New Hampshire considering he has a summer home there.
Romney should have bought a beach house in Florida. That would have been the better tax write off.
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Well, Nate Silver is certainly getting his dick sucked by twitter at a record setting level.
good for him. but i feel a little bad for the other modelers, who did as well or better, but don't have a times website, and don't blog everyday.
nazi.
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welp, looks like i'm going to have to fire like all of my employees
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welp, looks like i'm going to have to fire like all of my employees
:lol:
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:dance:
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Game over.
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and that's the ballgame
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:cheers:
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Congrats liberal ass fucks. Hope there is a country left if 4 years.
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Loving fox news so hard right now. :lol: :bait:
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Yeah so the answer is that there isn't a war in Iraq. Thanks, move on.
Oh yeah, no war in Iraq:
33 Killed as Suicide Car Bomber Hits Iraqi Army Base
Toll Expected to Rise With Many Gravely Wounded
by Jason Ditz, November 06, 2012
We have army bases in Europe, but I wouldn't say we are at war over there.
he ignored that point when I presented it earlier
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:billdance: :emawkid: :ksu:
AMERICA
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Has mitt gone to bed and can't give concession speech?
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he's changing his magic underpants
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way over
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poor people everywhere rejoice
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4 more years, 4 more years :emawkid:
victory: america
Serious question: why? What do you think Obama is going to do that makes the country better off? The only thing I can think of is Obamacare stays, we raise taxes on the rich, cause eff'em, but we spend more money so we still go deeper on the red (as would have happened with Romney as well). I'm having a hard time coming up with how this is better for the country as a whole. I would have had an equally hard time with Romney. Some who pays attention to this more than I do please explain it. I can see how either candidate is better for individual demographics, but not the country as a whole. The only difference is who gets mumped in the short term while everyone is mumped in the long term.
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going to be a bloodbath.
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4 more years, 4 more years :emawkid:
victory: america
Serious question: why? What do you think Obama is going to do that makes the country better off? The only thing I can think of is Obamacare stays, we raise taxes on the rich, cause eff'em, but we spend more money so we still go deeper on the red (as would have happened with Romney as well). I'm having a hard time coming up with how this is better for the country as a whole. I would have had an equally hard time with Romney. Some who pays attention to this more than I do please explain it. I can see how either candidate is better for individual demographics, but not the country as a whole. The only difference is who gets mumped in the short term while everyone is mumped in the long term.
that's not really a question is it?
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Omg Romney isn't going to concede
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I'm just perplexed by it all. I'm not entirely sure what values/policies/achievements of the president make him so appealing.
he's not romney. romney conducted the most insulting campaign possible, refusing to outline his plans, blatantly twisting the truth, etc. he conducted his campaign with utter contempt for the intelligence of the electorate. the saying is that you can never underestimate the intelligence of the american people. romney proved that wrong, if not by a great deal.
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Personally i care more about keeping the country out of the dark ages more than some debt issue that neither will help.
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lol at kim carnes being so poor that he honestly seems to care about who the president is and how it's going to affect his cash situ. t&ps kc. maybe cut cable?
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4 more years, 4 more years :emawkid:
victory: america
Serious question: why? What do you think Obama is going to do that makes the country better off? The only thing I can think of is Obamacare stays, we raise taxes on the rich, cause eff'em, but we spend more money so we still go deeper on the red (as would have happened with Romney as well). I'm having a hard time coming up with how this is better for the country as a whole. I would have had an equally hard time with Romney. Some who pays attention to this more than I do please explain it. I can see how either candidate is better for individual demographics, but not the country as a whole. The only difference is who gets mumped in the short term while everyone is mumped in the long term.
he is a wedding photographer who lives in oklahoma, in other words he is poor/stupid and should be a democrat. it is in his best interest, and i don't blame him for being one.
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I have no idea why someone would want someone to be president again. Maybe I just get bored easily.
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
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lol at kim carnes being so poor that he honestly seems to care about who the president is and how it's going to affect his cash situ. t&ps kc. maybe cut cable?
daris is mad that i called democrats poor. why are you mad rick?
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
Rove is getting closer to your meltdown
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
:thumbs:
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why is this fox bimbo walking around?
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why is this fox bimbo walking around?
Karl Rove
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After 4 years of saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite on a multitude of issues . . . it's quite funny that anyone would try to deny that Barry isn't just as contempt-able as Romney.
One thing for sure . . . Forward to (more) Perpetual War.
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4 more years, 4 more years :emawkid:
victory: america
Serious question: why? What do you think Obama is going to do that makes the country better off? The only thing I can think of is Obamacare stays, we raise taxes on the rich, cause eff'em, but we spend more money so we still go deeper on the red (as would have happened with Romney as well). I'm having a hard time coming up with how this is better for the country as a whole. I would have had an equally hard time with Romney. Some who pays attention to this more than I do please explain it. I can see how either candidate is better for individual demographics, but not the country as a whole. The only difference is who gets mumped in the short term while everyone is mumped in the long term.
that's not really a question is it?
Yeah it is. Outside of Obamacare stays, what would have changed with Romney for the country as a whole. Both were planning on spending a shitload, only in different places. There aren't any major social issues such as gay marriage that will be decided at the national level. Beside the tax level for the rich and Obamacare, what moves the needle? One winning over the other doesn't change the number of bigots out there.
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
learn to read dummy, RD it looks like kimmy has already cut the cable
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lol at kim carnes being so poor that he honestly seems to care about who the president is and how it's going to affect his cash situ. t&ps kc. maybe cut cable?
daris is mad that i called democrats poor. why are you mad rick?
not sure what you're talking about. you could try coupons too though i guess. maybe give up that morning latte from starbucks. dunno. :dunno:
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4 more years, 4 more years :emawkid:
victory: america
Serious question: why? What do you think Obama is going to do that makes the country better off? The only thing I can think of is Obamacare stays, we raise taxes on the rich, cause eff'em, but we spend more money so we still go deeper on the red (as would have happened with Romney as well). I'm having a hard time coming up with how this is better for the country as a whole. I would have had an equally hard time with Romney. Some who pays attention to this more than I do please explain it. I can see how either candidate is better for individual demographics, but not the country as a whole. The only difference is who gets mumped in the short term while everyone is mumped in the long term.
that's not really a question is it?
Yeah it is. Outside of Obamacare stays, what would have changed with Romney for the country as a whole. Both were planning on spending a shitload, only in different places. There aren't any major social issues such as gay marriage that will be decided at the national level. Beside the tax level for the rich and Obamacare, what moves the needle?
The president sets the tone for agencies. During bush the fcc cracked down super hard on radio and tv. Mitt expressed many times that he would lead a war on obscenity and porn. That crap effects more people than any debt issue does.
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
learn to read dummy, RD it looks like kimmy has already cut the cable
He's right though, I think fox was the first to call it.
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lol at kim carnes being so poor that he honestly seems to care about who the president is and how it's going to affect his cash situ. t&ps kc. maybe cut cable?
daris is mad that i called democrats poor. why are you mad rick?
not sure what you're talking about. you could try coupons too though i guess. maybe give up that morning latte from starbucks. dunno. :dunno:
seems like i might have hit a nerve. sorry, i really don't know anything about your finances. my posts weren't directed at you specifically. maybe go back to ku and get your phd? omg :lol:
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O/U guys? Is it going to get to 300+? I say yes! :driving:
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
learn to read dummy, RD it looks like kimmy has already cut the cable
He's right though, I think fox was the first to call it.
I don't know if Fox was the first to officially call it, but they were the first to show it through body language and tone. They may not have said the words, but they were he first to show they knew the outcome.
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
learn to read dummy, RD it looks like kimmy has already cut the cable
He's right though, I think fox was the first to call it.
Maybe you guys don't know what "the anchors" means? Since reading and comprehension is an issue just I dunno turn on FOX maybe.
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Oh yeah, I am old enough to remember the big crackdown on porn in the 80's and all the little libs running around with their No Censorship shirts on . . . then they looked back and realized it was actually the golden age of Porn.
Just like all the talk about budget cuts etc. etc. if a Republican gets elected, when in reality no real budget cuts ever happen, and it's only a slightly different variation of business as usual.
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romney won't concede.
:lol: what a little bitch
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the Neo Cons are losing it. This is great TV
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The computer geeks called it, and now the money is yelling at the geeks. Its great.
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
learn to read dummy, RD it looks like kimmy has already cut the cable
He's right though, I think fox was the first to call it.
Maybe you guys don't know what "the anchors" means? Since reading and comprehension is an issue just I dunno turn on FOX maybe.
so what was said in your posts supersedes what actually happened? why do you keep talking about reading? you don't read fox news, you watch it. my goodness
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lol at kim carnes being so poor that he honestly seems to care about who the president is and how it's going to affect his cash situ. t&ps kc. maybe cut cable?
daris is mad that i called democrats poor. why are you mad rick?
not sure what you're talking about. you could try coupons too though i guess. maybe give up that morning latte from starbucks. dunno. :dunno:
seems like i might have hit a nerve. sorry, i really don't know anything about your finances. my posts weren't directed at you specifically. maybe go back to ku and get your phd? omg :lol:
i still have no idea what you are talking about. i am sorry to here that the outcome of the presidential election makes or breaks you from a financial standpoint. it doesn't affect me either way, but i'm still sympathetic and just trying to help. good luck with things.
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OMG FOX is amazing right now, the anchors are literally refusing to acknowledge the call. "Maybe the Cleveland suburbs will come in for us."
this is great TV
they were like the first station to call it
learn to read dummy, RD it looks like kimmy has already cut the cable
He's right though, I think fox was the first to call it.
I don't know if Fox was the first to officially call it, but they were the first to show it through body language and tone. They may not have said the words, but they were he first to show they knew the outcome.
they were first, they were pretty aggressive with calling states all night. The other two aren't understanding that the anchors are disagreeing with the FOX decision desk.
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lol at kim carnes being so poor that he honestly seems to care about who the president is and how it's going to affect his cash situ. t&ps kc. maybe cut cable?
daris is mad that i called democrats poor. why are you mad rick?
not sure what you're talking about. you could try coupons too though i guess. maybe give up that morning latte from starbucks. dunno. :dunno:
seems like i might have hit a nerve. sorry, i really don't know anything about your finances. my posts weren't directed at you specifically. maybe go back to ku and get your phd? omg :lol:
i still have no idea what you are talking about. i am sorry to here that the outcome of the presidential election makes or breaks you from a financial stanpoint. it doesn't affect me either way, but i'm still sympathetic and just trying to help. good luck with things.
daris, i said i'm sorry, take it or leave it. i had absolutely no way of knowing.
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way over 300
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And those that acknowledge it are so butthurt and invalidating. :lol:
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
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:cry:
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suck it, fanning.
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
they think the black guy is going to destroy the constitution
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suck it, fanning.
Hurts less when you see it coming. Feels like the Prince years.
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
If anything I guess load up on coal? Idk
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
There's gon'be a rev'loution, rd.
(spits my tobacco)
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
Krauthaumer mentioned this too. They're looking for consolation but totally whiffing
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
Post examples please
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
If anything I guess load up on coal? Idk
If true, I hope Santa sees this
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:dance:
:gocho:
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
can't be. democrats hate guns.
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
Paul Ryan is the reason Willard is going to lose Florida. His take on Medicaid is a non-starter for a national election.
Bobby Jindal :lol: he would get murdered in a primary
Marco Rubio & Nicki Haley would be decent but they are going to have to find a way to shake the Tea Party. Nothing is better for liberal mobilization in a national election than tea party support.
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
Am I wrong in believing that the right ingests more talk radio/cable news than the left, and said media is really the root cause of their problem?
I just watch five minutes of Fox News, and I can't understand how anyone could watch that. The entire narrative and message is just mind numbingly wrong and off-putting.
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
Krauthaumer mentioned this too. They're looking for consolation but totally whiffing
Yeah, those 2 duds suck. I bet Ryan gets in troubs for sexting his meat or sexually harassing some staffer in next 3 years.
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
This is one topic that I happen to have some knowledge on...have been lurking in this thread.
Obama, has never, ever, done anything to move against guns. The ONLY thing he ever did that involved guns was to rough ridin' EXPAND gun rights in National Parks.
I have a bunch of gun "enthusiasts" in my family.
Anyone who tells you that gun laws will be restricted (or ammo) is either a mother rough ridin' idiot, or is profiting off of the mother rough ridin' idiots who are willing to pay artificially inflated prices.
I think it's awesome. All those gun guys, shelling out cash for no reason... :lol:
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Nothing is better for liberal mobilization in a national election than tea party support.
I hope the Koch brothers realize that this little revolution that they've been funding and pushing is actually killing their ability to win elections.
Of course, they probably don't realize that because they're almost criminally insane.
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So is it going to be 333?
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why do I keep seeing dumb and poor people talking about loading up on guns and bullets?
This is one topic that I happen to have some knowledge on...have been lurking in this thread.
Obama, has never, ever, done anything to move against guns. The ONLY thing he ever did that involved guns was to rough ridin' EXPAND gun rights in National Parks.
I have a bunch of gun "enthusiasts" in my family.
Anyone who tells you that gun laws will be restricted (or ammo) is either a mother rough ridin' idiot, or is profiting off of the mother rough ridin' idiots who are willing to pay artificially inflated prices.
I think it's awesome. All those gun guys, shelling out cash for no reason... :lol:
Every gun nut still calls obama anti-gun though. It's bill mahars bubble.
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
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the right is screwed for the rest of time. doesn't really matter though.
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
Control of mexican guns?
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
Meh, Iran Contra...
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
Am I wrong in believing that the right ingests more talk radio/cable news than the left, and said media is really the root cause of their problem?
I just watch five minutes of Fox News, and I can't understand how anyone could watch that. The entire narrative and message is just mind numbingly wrong and off-putting.
yes they get brainwashed by guys who make loads of money when nights like tonight happen. It isn't just conservatives though, people are generally stupid. There are plenty of liberals who thought that if Romney won he would take away all birth control, deport all Hispanics, and throw all black people in jail.
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
Meh, Iran Contra...
LOL . . . nice tap out.
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
Meh, Iran Contra...
LOL . . . nice tap out.
You think I am tapping out?
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
Meh, Iran Contra...
LOL . . . nice tap out.
You think I am tapping out?
Your Iran Contra strawman can't hold the smoke.
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Guns are not an issue, unless you are uneducated and poor.
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Fast and Furious was an attempt to begin gun control . . . what most libs don't seem to get, there was someone deep in Obama's inner circle that knew all about Fast and Furious and what it was designed to do, and the Executive branch has incorrectly invoked executive privilege to keep him from being questioned.
Cons acting like they care about Mexicans getting shot is very funny to me. Similar to many cons contempt for Jews. In one breath they cry about the liberal media but then the very next breath talk about how Obama doesn't care about "our friends in Israel." Many cons would just rather send the Jews back and let them get scudded.
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Guns are not an issue, unless you are uneducated and poor.
First off, WTF are you talking about MIR, this has nothing to do with "Mexicans getting shot" "or Jews getting hit by Scuds" . . . damn, I think I see some latent racism goin on in here. Geezus, where the eff did that come from?
Fast and Furious was about Gun Control . . . PETE.
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
Am I wrong in believing that the right ingests more talk radio/cable news than the left, and said media is really the root cause of their problem?
I just watch five minutes of Fox News, and I can't understand how anyone could watch that. The entire narrative and message is just mind numbingly wrong and off-putting.
yes they get brainwashed by guys who make loads of money when nights like tonight happen. It isn't just conservatives though, people are generally stupid. There are plenty of liberals who thought that if Romney won he would take away all birth control, deport all Hispanics, and throw all black people in jail.
Yep, people who follow politics closely and get upset one way or another are the stupidest people on the planet. Politics is a game. No one will actually do anything to try to change anything. That's not how you get re-elected. Politics is a joke and if you are passionate about one side or the other then you're an idiot.
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
Mike Murphy was on NBC basically saying republicans were losers and can't keep pissing off minorities and women and gays if they don't want to die.
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Yeah nothing says "White man" like the name Piyush Jindal.
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Republicans should be commended for being forthright about hating many different groups of people. I think it's great. The world could use a little more honesty.
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
Mike Murphy was on NBC basically saying republicans were losers and can't keep pissing off minorities and women and gays if they don't want to die.
he's on again.
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Fox News just discovered Reefer Madness. This should be fun.
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karl rove just said obama pulled a dirty tactic of calling anyone that doesn't support him as unpatriotic.
:dubious:
this was rove's signature move running the bush campaign.
fox news is just too much bullshit to handle sometimes.
:dance:
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Guns are not an issue, unless you are uneducated and poor.
First off, WTF are you talking about MIR, this has nothing to do with "Mexicans getting shot" "or Jews getting hit by Scuds" . . . damn, I think I see some latent racism goin on in here. Geezus, where the eff did that come from?
Fast and Furious was about Gun Control . . . PETE.
I do not vote on gun issues. I am indifferent. I have no reason to ever own a hand gun or an assault rifle. I am not worried about a slippery slope taking away my lovely Belgium Over/Under.
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Guns are not an issue, unless you are uneducated and poor.
First off, WTF are you talking about MIR, this has nothing to do with "Mexicans getting shot" "or Jews getting hit by Scuds" . . . damn, I think I see some latent racism goin on in here. Geezus, where the eff did that come from?
Fast and Furious was about Gun Control . . . PETE.
I do not vote on gun issues. I am indifferent. I have no reason to ever own a hand gun or an assault rifle. I am not worried about a slippery slope taking away my lovely Belgium Over/Under.
That has nothing to do with nothing . . . it certainly has nothing to do with a deliberate attempt to begin invoking significant gun control.
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karl rove just said obama pulled a dirty tactic of calling anyone that doesn't support him as unpatriotic.
:dubious:
this was rove's signature move running the bush campaign.
fox news is just too much bullshit to handle sometimes.
:dance:
i saw that. How many people have called obama non patriotic, non citizen, etc? Lol Karl is a gold mine tonight
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Guns are not an issue, unless you are uneducated and poor.
First off, WTF are you talking about MIR, this has nothing to do with "Mexicans getting shot" "or Jews getting hit by Scuds" . . . damn, I think I see some latent racism goin on in here. Geezus, where the eff did that come from?
Fast and Furious was about Gun Control . . . PETE.
I do not vote on gun issues. I am indifferent. I have no reason to ever own a hand gun or an assault rifle. I am not worried about a slippery slope taking away my lovely Belgium Over/Under.
That has nothing to do with nothing . . . it certainly has nothing to do with a deliberate attempt to begin invoking significant gun control.
No one invoked gun control, or will. But, if they did, I would not give a eff.
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the one truly funny thing i've seen posted tonight was "America proved that once you go black, you never go back"
:lol:
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Guns are not an issue, unless you are uneducated and poor.
First off, WTF are you talking about MIR, this has nothing to do with "Mexicans getting shot" "or Jews getting hit by Scuds" . . . damn, I think I see some latent racism goin on in here. Geezus, where the eff did that come from?
Fast and Furious was about Gun Control . . . PETE.
I do not vote on gun issues. I am indifferent. I have no reason to ever own a hand gun or an assault rifle. I am not worried about a slippery slope taking away my lovely Belgium Over/Under.
That has nothing to do with nothing . . . it certainly has nothing to do with a deliberate attempt to begin invoking significant gun control.
No one invoked gun control, or will. But, if they did, I would not give a eff.
Apparently you don't know what "attempt" means.
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obama won the county that paul ryan is from.
even his family hates him :lol:
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Why do I keep hearing Republican commentators saying that people like Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the future of the party?
Do they want to lose?
It will be the party of 90% + white people soon if they keep this up.
Am I wrong in believing that the right ingests more talk radio/cable news than the left, and said media is really the root cause of their problem?
I just watch five minutes of Fox News, and I can't understand how anyone could watch that. The entire narrative and message is just mind numbingly wrong and off-putting.
yes they get brainwashed by guys who make loads of money when nights like tonight happen. It isn't just conservatives though, people are generally stupid. There are plenty of liberals who thought that if Romney won he would take away all birth control, deport all Hispanics, and throw all black people in jail.
Yep, people who follow politics closely and get upset one way or another are the stupidest people on the planet. Politics is a game. No one will actually do anything to try to change anything. That's not how you get re-elected. Politics is a joke and if you are passionate about one side or the other then you're an idiot.
I hate people who say this stupid crap. There is nothing cool or intellectual about emo lethargy and uninformed dispassionate ignorance. If you don't care, that's your own damn problem, but don't be foolish enough to think you are taking some intelligent high road because you chose not to be engaged. the eff outta here
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Why is The Governor from TWD on Fox right now?
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Man, Nate Silver came out of this thing like HighStepperCat.
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Man, Nate Silver came out of this thing like HighStepperCat.
Do we even want to know what his BCS prediction is? :ohno:
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Man, Nate Silver came out of this thing like HighStepperCat.
he didn't nail it though, he's going to be off by 20 EC votes, somewhat significant as this was a much bigger blowout than he projected
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JFC, Obama is strutting around like a boss.
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what a stud.
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Man, Nate Silver came out of this thing like HighStepperCat.
he didn't nail it though, he's going to be off by 20 EC votes, somewhat significant as this was a much bigger blowout than he projected
if you look at his ev distribution histogram, 330something was the highest probability outcome from his model. i do think some of the other models may have been a little closer to target though - although that's not a data driven feeling, just a gut feel. wang had a good post a couple days ago giving his thoughts on the strengths and weaknesses of different modelers.
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Kick ass speech from Obama.
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He is such a stud :love:
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Kick ass speech from Obama.
Yes, one of the best I've ever heard
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Kick ass speech from Obama.
Yes, one of the best I've ever heard
I went to bed too early. :angry:
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Kick ass speech from Obama.
Yes, one of the best I've ever heard
I went to bed too early. :angry:
me too, FU mitt for holding out on your concession.
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Republicans should be commended for being forthright about hating many different groups of people. I think it's great. The world could use a little more honesty.
Not all Republicans are bigoted idiots, dumbass. Mainly just the old ones.
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Republicans should be commended for being forthright about hating many different groups of people. I think it's great. The world could use a little more honesty.
Not all Republicans are bigoted idiots, dumbass. Mainly just the old ones.
Oh Kimmy. Your arrogance knows no bounds.
Sincere congrats to all the Obama supporters.
I hope he does the following things, I will give his administration a great deal of credit if he does.
A) end the drug war, or at a minimum, greatly reduce the violent enforcement of federal drug laws
B) bring the troops home from Afghanistan and the middle east (even Iraq, I'm not interested in arguing if its a war, an occupation or something else)
C) end the drone strikes
D) reduce federal government involvement in education
E) no bailouts, for auto industry, banks, or others.
Some things I'd like the president to make a priority I know won't happen, because his ideologies differ so much from my own. Knock out 3 of the things I've listed Mr. President and I'll gladly say your 2nd term was a success.