Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?
Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?
very narrow shouldersGive the boy some puni biscuits and lots and lots of peas. If anything, he'll have one tuff gut. :thumbsup:
maybe good for slippin thru gaps!?
Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?
oh man you got TROLLED
Ertz So Good
https://twitter.com/JSisco16/status/704402902480097280
I have a weird feeling this could be another '11/'12 type season. Relatively unknowns on offense, and a good defense.
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I have a weird feeling this could be another '11/'12 type season. Relatively unknowns on offense, and a good defense.
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If it's going to be either of those years, it'll be 2011, not 12. 12 Was established, we knew who our guys were. The real question was much rather if winning a bunch of close game the previous year was a fluke or not, and 12 came back a resounding "we're much better". Granted last year was kinda like 2011 but in reverse, where we lost a lot of close games instead of winning them. We did after all blow 2 games (TCU, OSU) with sizeable HT leads that normally we are so good at shutting the door on. Though that would make us be 8-5. Not 10-3.
Jesse Ertz doesn’t know whether to introduce himself as a sophomore or a junior.
That’s how bizarre his college football career has been.
“I’m old, whatever I am,” Ertz said Tuesday at Kansas State’s first media session of the spring. “It’s unfortunate, but it is also a good opportunity to learn, gain experience and improve.”
Ertz, a quarterback, began taking college courses in 2013. So in academic terms he is a junior on track to graduate next year. But Ertz also likely has three years of eligibility remaining. By athletic standards, he is a redshirt sophomore.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article70154412.html#storylink=cpy
Ran into one of the K-State players I know at lunch
today and he said Ertz is a total stud at QB. We've heard this previously from various GPC staff but hearing it in a conversation directly from a player and with the strong conviction and voice inflection, provided some increased confidence that he may indeed become a special player. Players love his leadership as well, something that was missing last year.
He obviously needs to stay healthy and his O-Line does need to develop and mature quickly (another comment that supports what we've heard previously) but Jesse sounds like the real deal!
He also said Alex has great potential at QB but that Jesse is, without question, the number one guy. Not sure what this means for Alex longer term.
K-State will seemingly need to find a way to get Delton on the field to keep a guy who was thinking he was going to be getting a lot of playing time his true Freshman year feeling like this is still the right place for him. The latter comments are my own thoughts not necessarily this player's.
I haven't heard if he is any good or not, but I have heard that he put on 10-15 more lbs of muscle this year. Hopefully that will allow us to get a game or two out of him.Hopefully all that weight was in the beefing up of knee ligaments.
I haven't heard if he is any good or not, but I have heard that he put on 10-15 more lbs of muscle this year. Hopefully that will allow us to get a game or two out of him.
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A poor Iowan, barely kept his family fed,
And then one day he was throwin' tight spirals,
Blew out his knee; now he plays intramurals.
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.
Live look in on SW from child hood fandom to today's real worldDid anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.
be careful WC08 might call you emo for saying that.
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.
I'm kind of surprised his knee didn't explode when the flash went off for that picture
I'm kind of surprised his knee didn't explode when the flash went off for that picture
i mean look how skinny he isJohnny Manziel was skinny. :gocho:
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/762033784103501824
We knew that a year ago
i mean look how skinny he isJohnny Manziel was skinny. :gocho:
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/762033784103501824
Here's the only thing we really know about Ertzenhoffer: LHC Bill Snyder thinks that Ertzenhoffer is better than Huebner. That's about all we really know. Now, that IS a good thing. So, reason for optimism!
He was not used as a bettering ram because we had and used real RB's then.i mean look how skinny he isJohnny Manziel was skinny. :gocho:
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/762033784103501824
So was ER3
6'3" 205lbs :dunno:212 lbs
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.This
If Ertz even runs as much as Waters it could be trouble. I do feel like Hubes passed way more than 2011 Klein though, so maybe they are ready to back off the QB run game? :dunno:Dude was a stud dual threat QB in HS. Barring his injury history, I don't know if you're just assuming he can't run because he's skinny. Maybe the injuries tho.
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.
The fact you crap on every thread. The fact you hate optimism from MIR. The fact you've been removed from mhk for years. The fact that you just crap on every thread, with no knowledge, to get a reaction. :dunno: I'd be surprised if you could list 6 K-State players for football (without googling) in the next 5 minutes.I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.
Which part of my post prompted you to post this?
The fact you crap on every thread. The fact you hate optimism from MIR. The fact you've been removed from mhk for years. The fact that you just crap on every thread, with no knowledge, to get a reaction. :dunno: I'd be surprised if you could list 6 K-State players for football (without googling) in the next 5 minutes.I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.
Which part of my post prompted you to post this?
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz? U have no clue, no one does. And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.
its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GG
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year. But way off with regard to Sams. Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.
For what it is worth, I am pro-battering–ram offense so long as we have the horse (or horses) to do it. I think our offensive coaches are perhaps the best in the nation if we have a good running quarterback. We have essentially invented and perfected this style of football, which confuses and stretches the defense while also keeping turnovers very low. When we have a qb, it is pretty amazing to watch.
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz? U have no clue, no one does. And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GGI'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year. But way off with regard to Sams. Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.
Where in the hell did I say anything about Ertz not running? Read better dummies.
wetwillie, you should be embarrassed to be lumped in with a parody poster and a certified moron
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor. We ran him f'n 30 times. For 199 yards. Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011).
Sams had 27 carries against OSU.
What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.
Would bet a mid sized car that the first play from the offense is a QB run.
It was definitely outside. I was there.Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor. We ran him f'n 30 times. For 199 yards. Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011).
Sams had 27 carries against OSU.
What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.
If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor. We ran him f'n 30 times. For 199 yards. Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011).
Sams had 27 carries against OSU.
What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.
If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor. We ran him f'n 30 times. For 199 yards. Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011).
Sams had 27 carries against OSU.
What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.
If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
That's all I remember. Not saying it is right or wrong.Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor. We ran him f'n 30 times. For 199 yards. Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011).
Sams had 27 carries against OSU.
What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.
If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
If Ertz even runs as much as Waters it could be trouble. I do feel like Hubes passed way more than 2011 Klein though, so maybe they are ready to back off the QB run game? :dunno:Dude was a stud dual threat QB in HS. Barring his injury history, I don't know if you're just assuming he can't run because he's skinny. Maybe the injuries tho.
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz? U have no clue, no one does. And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GGI'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year. But way off with regard to Sams. Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.
Where in the hell did I say anything about Ertz not running? Read better dummies.
wetwillie, you should be embarrassed to be lumped in with a parody poster and a certified moron
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props to ben ji for getting in the "what if ertz is a badass" question. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article95343302.html
How awful is Iowa high school football if this guy was crushing records left and right?I think if we're all being honest, everything in Iowa is terrible except their butter sculptures.
How good of a runner do they say Ertz will be?
How good of a runner do they say Ertz will be?
I don't know.. I mean, he's going to be wearing massive exoskeleton-like knee braces, right?
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man, what a puff piece. all on board the Ertz train now.
man, what a puff piece. all on board the Ertz train now.
Maybe, but it is getting me super jazzed to see Jimmy sling it around the field. He is the FASTEST SWIMMER ON THE TEAM! Might need to start calling him Jimmy "Phelps" Ertz! :ksu:
http://www.meposchools.org/wp-content/files/2013/09/2012-Mediapolis-Football-Results.pdf* Iowa
3600 total yards
59 offensive TDs
2 INTs
He had 2 pick sixes
All one season, he's a mothafuckin badass
Would bet a mid sized car that the first play from the offense is a QB run.
http://www.meposchools.org/wp-content/files/2013/09/2012-Mediapolis-Football-Results.pdf
3600 total yards
59 offensive TDs
2 INTs
He had 2 pick sixes
All one season, he's a mothafuckin badass
Because Lockett, dummy.
Because Lockett, dummy.
I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.
I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.
Because Lockett, dummy.
I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.
I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.
Having more than one or two targets is definitely more dangerous than one Lockett and a Sexton. Didn't Coleman say something about this being our most solid receiving core in a long time or something?
Because Lockett, dummy.
I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.
I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.
Having more than one or two targets is definitely more dangerous than one Lockett and a Sexton. Didn't Coleman say something about this being our most solid receiving core in a long time or something?
think he said that about last years group nard dog
2012 Iowa Gatorade Player of the Year
:dunno:
I mean, I'm intrigued to see what we can do. He has guys that can catch and run. If he's got blockers and can stay healthy, I don't see why he can't at least equal Waters' output.
Literally none of those guys have done anything ever
Set the K-State record in the shuttle run, faster than Bish, Ell, Darren, Frank Murphy, all the Locketts. Iowa that, bitches.
He was regarded as a pocket passer in recruiting profiles, but Borrison said the 6-foot-3, 205 pound Ertz — who broke K-State’s conditioning shuttle run time for quarterbacks — will surprise people with his all-around skills.
Set the K-State record in the shuttle run, faster than Bish, Ell, Darren, Frank Murphy, all the Locketts. Iowa that, bitches.
If Ertz turns out to be a badass, I'm going to have to start believing SD's insider ppl don't know crap, and that makes me sad. :frown: :cry:
Intramural basketball champ. Bish's intramural team was trash. How was Collin's IM team? Huh? Thought so.
How is he with the ladies? Any reports from campus?
How is he with the ladies? Any reports from campus?
His name is Mr. Touchdown so you do the math
Intramural basketball champ. Bish's intramural team was trash. How was Collin's IM team? Huh? Thought so.
I believe Freeman's team won.
Or maybe I'm misremembering. I thought it was baby move your butt butt butt. I think I'll sing it again
If Ertz turns out to be a badass, I'm going to have to start believing SD's insider ppl don't know crap, and that makes me sad. :frown: :cry:
He's like Jake waters with no Tyler Lockett
He reminds me of a smaller Joe Hubener.
He reminds me of a smaller Joe Hubener.
this. With weaker knees
So so bad. wonder what the tucks are thinking of their guy and team captain.In defense of tucks everywhere, they didn't elect Ertz team captain. A bunch of young people did that.
Well this is predictable. If he can stay healthy he's going to be pretty good.
Well this is predictable. If he can stay healthy he's going to be pretty good.
Would you rather have Meier and Webb, or Ertz and Huebner?
.....good god...
Do you want a serious answer to that or should I just gE it
Do you want a serious answer to that or should I just gE it
Seriously. It's tough to decide. Webb was better than Hubes, IMO. The only reason we have to believe that Ertz will be better than Dylan is Iowa HS football stats and an impressive shuttle run score (BETTER THAN BISHOP!).
It's a tough one!
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Do you think Ertz has better talent around him that Dylan did?
Do you think Ertz has better talent around him that Dylan did?
I think I'm not going to compare him to any Kansas State quarterback based on the fact he just had his first career game against the best defense he'll play all year. I'll talk about tonight though. He looked like crap throwing the ball the first half, he wasn't helped by Dana only allowing him to pass in obvious passing situations. And despite the one stupid ass throw he made in the second half he seemed to calm down and go through his progressions and make much better throws, but he was much more hesitant to run.
He'll need to do a better job of keeping his eyes up and just throwing the ball away when the time calls for that. He wasn't great tonight, he wasn't horrible.
I know there wasn't enough "sucks" in this post or non-nuanced knee-jerk hyperbole in this post though, sorry.
I'd take Dylan 100% of the time over Dogshit Iowa QB1
Coffman also fumbled on the Missouri 1 yard-line as time ran out in the first half, remember?
When do we start a petition for Delton? I'm already making a sign for next week...He needs to transfer as far away from this clown show as possible.
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.
Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.
Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40
:dunno:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.
Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40
:dunno:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094
I can't post a link but the ratings I posted are from the K-State app, I'm assuming you can get to them from kstatesports.com or stanford.com on a desktop or laptop.
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.
Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40
:dunno:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094
I can't post a link but the ratings I posted are from the K-State app, I'm assuming you can get to them from kstatesports.com or stanford.com on a desktop or laptop.
I believe you, I don't know how there could be that big of a discrepancy though. Isn't their rating like a pretty standardized thing?
The truth is we have no idea how good/bad Ertz is because we have no idea how good/bad the Stanford defense is. Ertz in general took way too long to get rid of the ball, which is either because he couldn't make his progressions or because the Stanford secondary was generally tight enough that his receivers could not get open. The only thing we know for sure at this point is Ertz has given us no reason to think he is or will be better than any of KSU's last few QBs. Obviously that is not saying much since he just had his first game against a good team, but whether you are optimistic about him or not at this point is just a choice, it's not based on any facts.
So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.
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So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.The offense overall was a huge letdown because the defense played well enough to win and mostly contained a Heisman favorite in the process. Doesn't matter what was expected, it was a missed opportunity and Ertz's shitty play was a big part of that along with the shitty play calling.
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Yeah, a touchdown before the last 3 minutes would have been amazing.So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.
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2-3 touchdown drives
I mean UH, a rough ridin' city college, is beating OU. Big 12th championship and the playoff still in reach.
Not giving up on Ertz just yet. Collin Klein's first game as a Cat was just as bad (13/21 for 128 and 25 carries for 78 yards). In fact, it could be argued it was WORSE because we were playing Eastern Kentucky at home and probably should have lost the game.
Also, after that game we had a bye week and looked much better. I'm hoping for the same type of improvement. :pray:
Meanwhile, white guy from Colorado Collin Klein is worshipped and spawned this actual thread title. Wacky, we're buds. But don't be a dumbass.Listen to this man; he is very wise.
FTR - Waters was definitely the better QB, but his first few performances were not very impressive.
Meanwhile, white guy from Colorado Collin Klein is worshipped and spawned this actual thread title. Wacky, we're buds. But don't be a dumbass.Sorry sd :frown:
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
None of those QBs faced a top 10 team in their first start. I don't think you can compare Ertz to anyone else at this point for better or worse. This will actually make me very for our next game to see if Ertz is on par with any of those guys.
No you're notThere isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
I'm terrified he will be completely unable to walk after graduating from katate.
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
None of those QBs faced a top 10 team in their first start. I don't think you can compare Ertz to anyone else at this point for better or worse. This will actually make me very for our next game to see if Ertz is on par with any of those guys.
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
What I anticipate is that we'll see Ertz get better over the next 3-4 games, get injured, and then spend the rest of the season watching Bazooka Joe not learn from last year's mistakes.
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Let's get Thompson some experience. Can't hurt.
Jammal Lord was down too.Good Lord, look at what we have become. :Crybaby: :curse: :Yuck:
Let's get Thompson some experience. Can't hurt.
After watching the Texas QB last night. This.
Stanford probably has the best defense we'll see all year
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Don't know why Delton doesn't transfer. If they won't move him ahead of Hubener, no reason to waste away on the bench here.
I think it's more about Dana Dimel hating the crap out of him that is the issue.
Stanford probably has the best defense we'll see all year
people keep saying this. they were kind of mediocre last year and lost 5 starters. I don't know how good their recruits are and crap though.
Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.
Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.
Yep! What scares me a bit is if Jerry Kill is working with the athletic department and the football coaches on finding a new coach is that the new staff will likely be required to keep Dana.
Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.
Yep! What scares me a bit is if Jerry Kill is working with the athletic department and the football coaches on finding a new coach is that the new staff will likely be required to keep Dana.
I completely forgot about Jerry Kill. I would LOVE to know his thoughts on the first game.
WVU beat the absolute piss out of the top SEC east team in Morgantown last week, we are hosed.
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?
Trash.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?
Trash.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
It looks like Dana/Del is the 8th highest paid OC on that list. (Assuming no other co-coordinators make as much.)
2015 total offense yards rank: 104
2015 points per game rank: 58
Did we run the wildcat at all in the game? I am 100% certain that is where Delton will be as the season progresses.
We don't play this Saturday
It's presently Tuesday, our next game is Saturday, so agree to disagree
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?
Trash.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
In my mind, I imagine Delton throwing a bad ball, but he must be even worse in real life because he's a far better runner than the other qbs.
In my mind, I imagine Delton throwing a bad ball, but he must be even worse in real life because he's a far better runner than the other qbs.
Delton is definitely a more explosive runner. As for his arm, its hard to say because we haven't seen him through. I can only attest for seeing him several times in high school and IMO his arm was okay, but not great. In any case, it appears that he has at least moved even, if not ahead, of Hubes. This is a good thing.
I think Ertz has potential to be a solid QB the next couple of years. I think Dimel/Miller think they have another version of Klein with him.
Bleeding elbows :surprised:
Let's pump the breaks on this Ertz guy. He hasn't even won the heisman trophy yet.
He seems to be a little bit clumsy. That first long run he had would have been a touchdown if his upper body wasn't 2 yards ahead of his feet and stumbled twice.
ducky ertzThis is his new name.
The knee brace thing probably adds to his clumsiness. He looked good last night, but I'm waiting for the WVU game to make sure it wasn't just an aberration. I'm still not convinced he's going to make it through the season.
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.
this. :kstategrad:
The knee brace thing probably adds to his clumsiness. He looked good last night, but I'm waiting for the WVU game to make sure it wasn't just an aberration. I'm still not convinced he's going to make it through the season.taysom hill has zero knees at all (like literally none. torn lcl acl mcl meniscus multiple times the fact he is even alive is a testament to science) and did whatever the eff he wanted on wvu ground wise, he just liked to throw the ball to the wrong team too many times.
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.
this. :kstategrad:
It wasn't his best pass of the year but whatever
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.
this. :kstategrad:
It wasn't his best pass of the year but whatever
Shoe box throw against the Cardinal?
I can't wait to shove Sisco in all of your morbidly obese craws. I don't know who claimed him as "my guy" but he's clearly mine.keep doing you man
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.well that's gonna suck for skylar, but probably not
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.well that's gonna suck for skylar, but probably not
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.
Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.To think Ertz is gonna risk his knees after he wins the Heiman and CFPLAYOFF next year is a bit presumptuous
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.
Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.
I think you're using the term scary good a little loosely. Like maybe more loosely than anyone ever.
He needs work on his deep balls and deciding where to go with the ball quicker.
He needs work on his deep balls and deciding where to go with the ball quicker.
as well as the panicked throw off the back foot while facing the blitz/heavy pressure.
Two great games at home, two meh games on the road. I see a pattern. I think Ertz will be ok in the long run.Me too, so far he's sucked balls against any team with a pulse
Is it bad for me to be calling for Huebener? JeeshOver Delton yes.
Is it bad for me to be calling for Huebener? Jeesh
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.
It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.
Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.
I think you're using the term scary good a little loosely. Like maybe more loosely than anyone ever.
Your schtick is tired and done kim, work on it
Leave him in Morgantown.overshot the bus, he's in the car 4 ahead.
He threw some nice balls, but four yards too far.Pringle dropped his best ball of the day. A score that would have put the game out of reach.
Ertz will be good eventually, I have no doubt. Just not this year sadly. :frown:
He threw some nice balls, but four yards too far.Pringle dropped his best ball of the day. A score that would have put the game out of reach.
KU would probably be the only team that would trade QBs. Maybe ISU as well. Not a good sign.
That was the worst QB performance I can remember as a K-State fan. I'm sure there have been worse, but none come readily to mind. I mean, 10/30 with no TDs and a pick? rough ridin' woof.this. Carson Coffman could have done that in his sleep.
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.
Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.
Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.
We have no offensive identity and that's the fault of the coaches. If they feel like he can't run an offense then he needs to be benched and we can just run Delton and Warmack on QB reads every play.
And meanwhile, Kenny Hill has thrown for 440 and 5 TD's against OU.
I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.
Ertz reminds me of Everidge, except less decisive
Yeah I guess he didn't make any failed attempted interceptions with his knee on the ground in the end zone this game which in a way could be considered progress.I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.
I guess you could argue that, but quarterback's can win completing 1/2 their passes. It's difficult, but doable. Completing 1/3 of your passes precludes winning from being a realistic outcome.
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.
Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.
I am certainly not going to come in here and say he had a even okay game. It wasn't good, we scored 16 points and he, as the quarterback, has to shoulder that. It was his second state against a team with a pulse, hopefully he'll get better.
Now about that hopefully. If his coaches don't trust him to run a real offense then he needs to sit. I don't know if it's his reads or what we're checking into but every rough ridin' pass off of the blitz was a go route. He isn't hitting those because he isn't stepping into them, that's his fault, but why can't the coaches see that? He did a great job on intermediate routes, even on passing downs, why weren't they called more?
We have no offensive identity and that's the fault of the coaches. If they feel like he can't run an offense then he needs to be benched and we can just run Delton and Warmack on QB reads every play.
Ertz is a rough ridin' joke and deserves to dieThis may be a bit harsh but I'm all for benching.
Ertz is a rough ridin' joke and deserves to dieThis may be a bit harsh but I'm all for benching.
Ertz is basically Dylan Meier
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I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
If I'm right, the good news is Ertz can eventually settle in and start playing on the level of Waters or Klein (minus the durability). He also may never settle down, in which case it will basically be 2015 all over again. In either case, I don't see him ever getting benched for Delton because I'm sure he'll always perform better in practice.
In either case, I don't see him ever getting benched for Delton because I'm sure he'll always perform better in practice.
Yeah I guess he didn't make any failed attempted interceptions with his knee on the ground in the end zone this game which in a way could be considered progress.I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.
I guess you could argue that, but quarterback's can win completing 1/2 their passes. It's difficult, but doable. Completing 1/3 of your passes precludes winning from being a realistic outcome.
I couldn't believe the number of go routes the coaches wanted Ertz to throw. He made a few really bad, unacceptable decisions, but most QBs complete less than 50% of the passes he threw. A lot of that is probably on Ertz ignoring shorter routes.
We saw the same thing from Hubes last year when Baylor and TCU blitzed - it looks like a scheme our QBs can't execute
We saw the same thing from Hubes last year when Baylor and TCU blitzed - it looks like a scheme our QBs can't execute
Dimel has learned the process from Weber.
1. Be arrogant that you know the Xs and Os better than anyone.
2. Set up a system that hypothetically works well with no deficiencies.
3. After a while, opposing coaches figure it out.
4. Opposing coaches start adjusting in ways that forces your system to react into low probability plays (like long fades).
5. Arrogantly say your scheme works, it attacks the weakness your opponents show (even if the opposition is purposely baiting you because the method of attacking is your biggest weakness too), blame it on the players for not executing your hypothetically correct system.
The beauty in it for Dimel is the Snyder system. He only has to answer for it once a year in the offseason and Snyder has brainwashed a sect of his players to buy into the personal accountability mantra and only allows those players to speak so they'll fall on the sword. A large sect of the fan base buys into it because Snyder veils it in "doing it the right way".
More blame on Dimel please, keep forgetting about Miller.
The thing is, the defense wasn't giving us the fly route down the sideline.
The thing is, the defense wasn't giving us the fly route down the sideline.they were playing man on the wideouts every time they brought heat. and it was pretty easy to see when they were and were not coming. that's giving us the fly route down the sideline if you have a good qb.
This offense will never score enough to beat ttu. Or baylor/OSU for that matter.:frown:
maybe it's a glitch in my brain computer but I like it when our QB runs a lot and I don't like it when he doesn't. like designed runs a lot. not like he's running away from someone. except bishop, I liked it still when he ran away from someone.
Ertz will play well this weekend. I could play well against Tech's defense. If Ertz doesn't play well, that is very discouraging.
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo
They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo
They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo
They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.
I think we game planned to run, it just didn't work very well initially: first 10 running plays, 21 yards gained.
Ell had a weak 1st year too.
Wasn't that the game Brandon Clarke would catch a pass open by like 20 yds and always get run done from behind?Ell had a weak 1st year too.
I'm assuming you mean his sophomore year. Not to belabor the point but he had a ton of turnovers but man was he fun to watch. Here was his stat line for that season
Passing
Rk Player Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
1 Ell Roberson 54 136 39.7 855 6.3 4.2 4 8 90.5
Rushing
Rk Player Att Yds Avg TD
2 Ell Roberson 142 643 4.5 9
Look at how different our offense looked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ikKfgaHmQ
full game, fun game worth a watch
Like I said, I'm all in for Sisco but if the coaches don't trust him they need to sit him for Delton but there is nothing indicating that they would be any less risk averse
Wasn't that the game Brandon Clarke would catch a pass open by like 20 yds and always get run done from behind?Ell had a weak 1st year too.
I'm assuming you mean his sophomore year. Not to belabor the point but he had a ton of turnovers but man was he fun to watch. Here was his stat line for that season
Passing
Rk Player Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
1 Ell Roberson 54 136 39.7 855 6.3 4.2 4 8 90.5
Rushing
Rk Player Att Yds Avg TD
2 Ell Roberson 142 643 4.5 9
Look at how different our offense looked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ikKfgaHmQ
full game, fun game worth a watch
Like I said, I'm all in for Sisco but if the coaches don't trust him they need to sit him for Delton but there is nothing indicating that they would be any less risk averse
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo
They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.
I think we game planned to run, it just didn't work very well initially: first 10 running plays, 21 yards gained.
Hubes is better than Ertz
I can't argue with thisHubes is better than Ertz
They are both trash so WGAF
I can't argue with thisHubes is better than Ertz
They are both trash so WGAF
in this camp as well.Hubes is better than Ertz
They are both trash so WGAF
I can't argue with thisHubes is better than Ertz
They are both trash so WGAF
i'd probably take hubes, mostly bc ertz is made of glass and occasionally joe make it interesting by throwing way down field for a td or 5 yards behind a receiver on a screen.
Did they say what the specific injury was with Ertz?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu576%2Fteamcatlab%2Fertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif&hash=69513cb87f9b08aad993720d97c1da33a2b6cf5d)Just then, Del tells Dana "I think we got a running QB here.". (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fbsdm2.gif&hash=47ce332c0eaeaf6e6cb7316ae12afd774d956fcd)
Shut up demoGood rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.Shut up demoGood rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.Shut up demoGood rebuttal...
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fthumbs_up_emoticon.gif&hash=b1f2e975b7df20d1f196018d8418db79682bd85d)Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.Shut up demoGood rebuttal...
Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fthumbs_up_emoticon.gif&hash=b1f2e975b7df20d1f196018d8418db79682bd85d)Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.Shut up demoGood rebuttal...
Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.Shut up demoGood rebuttal...
Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.Ertz ran for 170 yards today, stupid.
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.Ertz ran for 170 yards today, stupid.
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.Ertz ran for 170 yards today, stupid.
Any offense built around your QB running the ball 15+ times per game is a joke
Any offense built around your QB running the ball 15+ times per game is a joke
They have six consecutive 200-yard rushing games
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.
Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.
Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.
You can also argue that some of the coaching decisions cost us 1 win, maybe 2.
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.
Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.
You can also argue that some of the coaching decisions cost us 1 win, maybe 2.
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.
Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
Glass bones, knees, etc
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
Glass bones, knees, etc
Sams was a better passer
:lol:He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
Glass bones, knees, etc
Sams was a better passer
Pfftt... Stats. Like they matter.He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
Glass bones, knees, etc
Sams was a better passer
Ertz and Sams both threw 4 INTs in a season.
Sams on 53 attempts and Ertz on 244.
The Ell story in front of our eyes. :love:
He's a great runner in space, far below average passer. I mean, it's great he hasn't had the int's, but throwing footballs is not one of his strengths.You do know he's got a mumped up shoulder. Could be from running all the time.
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
Glass bones, knees, etc
The Ell story in front of our eyes. :love:
Pump the brakes
ertz = klein
pringle = harper
lee = brown
:ksu:
but he's white
He throws the hottest stiff arm since I don't know who
his stiff arms are as mighty as his falls are awkward. Great clip.
The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT. But they let Jesse throw them.
He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards. I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.
If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.
Ummm pringle can jump out of the damn stadium pan. Good lord
I enjoy the sisco kid but isn't qbr how fanning justifies loving the crap out of Alex "loser" smith?No dumbass. Do your research.
The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT. But they let Jesse throw them.He throws a lot of bad balls that the receivers bail him out on. Even more than the good throws that the receivers drop.
He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards. I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.
If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.
but he's white
His name is Sisco and he's shown support for #blacklivesmatter
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/805915627764453381https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/805916894997909505
Zachary Adam Ertz is an American football tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Eagles in the second round of the 2013 NFL Draft
They are dumb announcers.QuoteZachary Adam Ertz is an American football tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Eagles in the second round of the 2013 NFL Draft
Ummm pringle can jump out of the damn stadium pan. Good lord
kslim, i think pan was referring to catching as well
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/805915627764453381https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/805916894997909505
He's using a special ESPN QBR that factors rushing. He's 9th in the Big 12 in passing efficiency (unless I missed something).
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8/p1
Not saying one is better than the other, just that it's not what most people think when they think "QB Rating".
https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/805915627764453381https://twitter.com/TylerDreiling/status/805916894997909505
He's using a special ESPN QBR that factors rushing. He's 9th in the Big 12 in passing efficiency (unless I missed something).
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8/p1
Not saying one is better than the other, just that it's not what most people think when they think "QB Rating".
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.Won't happen.
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.Won't happen.
Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?
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Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?He's the highest rated QB Snyder's nabbed in Snyder 2.0 and since Ell. He continues to win the scout team award as well.
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The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT. But they let Jesse throw them.
He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards. I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.
If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.
his "jump ball" throws are terrible.
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.Won't happen.
For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.Won't happen.
For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.
Insane is my middle name. Steffy Insane 08.
One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field. I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder. If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.
I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense. (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Because Dana Dimel is smarter than you (just ask him) and they will never see it coming.To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.Won't happen.
For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.
Insane is my middle name. Steffy Insane 08.
One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field. I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder. If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.
I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense. (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)
Your idea being ridiculous has nothing to do with Sisco and Thompson. Make Sisco Kevin Lopina and make Thompson Tom Brady. Why in the hell would you sit a guy for three hours that you then rely upon for the most critical drive of the game?
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.Won't happen.
For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.
Insane is my middle name. Steffy Insane 08.
One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field. I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder. If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.
I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense. (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)
Your idea being ridiculous has nothing to do with Sisco and Thompson. Make Sisco Kevin Lopina and make Thompson Tom Brady. Why in the hell would you sit a guy for three hours that you then rely upon for the most critical drive of the game?
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?
We have zero examples of quarterbacks in a Snyder system making a considerable jump in passing ability from their first to second years.
Literally never happened. Especially the guy with the funky motion that won the Unitas award.
We have zero examples of quarterbacks in a Snyder system making a considerable jump in passing ability from their first to second years.
Literally never happened. Especially the guy with the funky motion that won the Unitas award.
This.
Here is a chart of all 2nd year Snyder QBs (and 3rd for Ell) and there is improvement in nearly every category. Note, this doesn't include the bowl game for Ertz, but his numbers are still very solid. Also, this accounts for the average improvement of all of these QBs in their 2nd years (+ Ell's 3rd) and its probably more likely Ertz surpasses the average if he stays healthy IMO.
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?
Don't indulge him, please.
I've always felt that it's mostly (not entirely) a byproduct of the coaching staff allowing the QB's to do more in the offense. The diversity of play calls in year two for all of these guys is much greater, and they're allowed more freedom to spread the ball down the field.
Of course, there's always the fact that we drill the crap out of them over the winter in the film room, they get added reps in the Spring and Summer as the clear #1, etc. But there is something systemic in what we do that accounts for this jump, and I remember how much they opened the book up for Ell, Klein, Waters, etc. in year two. I feel that's a pretty significant variable.
Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?
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Because he isn't from Iowa or a walk on from Kansas.
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.
The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001. Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.
The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001. Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.
Does anyone keep stats for yards traveled in the air? We must rank similarly to triple option teams.
I've always felt that it's mostly (not entirely) a byproduct of the coaching staff allowing the QB's to do more in the offense. The diversity of play calls in year two for all of these guys is much greater, and they're allowed more freedom to spread the ball down the field.
Of course, there's always the fact that we drill the crap out of them over the winter in the film room, they get added reps in the Spring and Summer as the clear #1, etc. But there is something systemic in what we do that accounts for this jump, and I remember how much they opened the book up for Ell, Klein, Waters, etc. in year two. I feel that's a pretty significant variable.
I agree and its very significant.
I would guess Ertz's biggest jumps will come in YPA and TDs. Its possible, if not likely, that INT% and YPC will get slightly worse, but mostly because he will be allowed to take a few more chances and defenses will have better gameplans against him. Overall, the efficiency of the offense will go up, especially since he'll be paired with the best SO running back besides Sproles and a very good JR in Silmon. Plus a pretty good group of playmakers at WR. IMO, next year's offense is going to be really good, at least top 30 and probably top 20.
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.
The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001. Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.
Does anyone keep stats for yards traveled in the air? We must rank similarly to triple option teams.
Well, maybe not triple, but we are an option team.
As for that stat, no, but here are a ton of advanced stats here:
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2016-kansas-state-advanced-statistical-profile
And yes, we are a very effective and efficient running team with very few big plays, especially in the passing game.
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/808083488289198080
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/808083488289198080
Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/808083488289198080
Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....
Same with TCU last year and probably a handful of other games in my 4 years at K-State
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/808083488289198080
Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....
Same with TCU last year and probably a handful of other games in my 4 years at K-State
Oh dammit you like the Dallas Cowboys... ugh!
starsbravesksu kinda reminds people of stevedaveksu. you are off to a strong start dude. :thumbs:
since no one else wants these all run, no pass qbs, why can't we recruit enough of them to have one for every game instead of living in dread that the only good one in any given year will die before snyder has used up every last drop of him?
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
I thought I heard a little street in his voice
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Guys, he's a badass. And the future is bright.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C00mcggUAAAzYhc.png:large)
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama. Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama. Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.
They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it. We lost to every ranked team we played.
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama. Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.
They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it. We lost to every ranked team we played.
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama. Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.
They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it. We lost to every ranked team we played.
He had nearly 300 yards against a winning team with the likely #1 NFL draft pick on the defensive line.
But, please, continue. You're definitely in your wheelhouse in conversations like this.
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
If you can't enjoy this, I truly feel sorry for you. And if your just gEing or trolling or whatever, I feel even more sorry for you. Get over your ridiculous self for one moment and enjoy K-State sports or just leave. Really.
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games? Just curious
If you can't enjoy this, I truly feel sorry for you. And if your just gEing or trolling or whatever, I feel even more sorry for you. Get over your ridiculous self for one moment and enjoy K-State sports or just leave. Really.
Wacky, u need to chill
Last 7 games-
64% passing. 719 yds rushing, 5.6 per carry
I wasn't an Ertz fan early in year, but he is proving me wrong, and he has completely grown on me.
2017 offense could be special with some potential breakout stars ready to emerge
I absolutely respect the crap out of kim carnes for being infallibly dedicated to his trolling effort even after fun qat wins. If you don't get kim carnes then that's on you.
In all honesty, I enjoy this more because Carnes is such a rough ridin' idiot. Not sure what that says about her or me, and I don't care. Go cats.
ron prince, two of the top 4 rushing guys since LHC LHC Bill Snyder came to KSU (not really but you know what I'm saying about it being weird)defenses had to respect the laser cannon arm of one Josh Freeman
ron prince, two of the top 4 rushing guys since LHC LHC Bill Snyder came to KSU (not really but you know what I'm saying about it being weird)defenses had to respect the laser cannon arm of one Josh Freeman
I think he's talking about James Johnson
I really like this about him but I also worry that he responds to ever-y-thing on twitter.
I really like this about him but I also worry that he responds to ever-y-thing on twitter.
Pretty sure you forgot about his 3 TD's he accounted for.
:lol: He gets it!
https://twitter.com/JSisco16/status/814872686056902656
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.
How does carnes make it through life being so miserable?
Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.
so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,? Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness. Bishop, Beasley, Roberson.....
Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.
Oh, I know.Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.
Not to pick on ya wacks, but that sounds awfully familiar
Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.
so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,? Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness. Bishop, Beasley, Roberson.....
Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.
so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,? Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness. Bishop, Beasley, Roberson.....
Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.
Kimmy sucks donkey dicks; and anyone who supports him is licking his balls.Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.
so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,? Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness. Bishop, Beasley, Roberson.....
Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.
Bookcat shut up.
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:
2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)
Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.
I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were. I still can't get over 1755/1012. That's Ell 2002 good.
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:
2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)
Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.
I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were. I still can't get over 1755/1012. That's Ell 2002 good.
I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:
2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)
Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.
I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were. I still can't get over 1755/1012. That's Ell 2002 good.
I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.
His ypc is worse because he's the slowest of our rushing QBs, maybe faster than el beaz. Sisco is used in short yardage situations too, he's just a much bigger threat of breaking a 20+ run.
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:
2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)
Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.
I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were. I still can't get over 1755/1012. That's Ell 2002 good.
I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.
His ypc is worse because he's the slowest of our rushing QBs, maybe faster than el beaz. Sisco is used in short yardage situations too, he's just a much bigger threat of breaking a 20+ run.
I think that's true, but this staff has gone away from using the QB as a battering ram quite so much in the redzone. (%run is based on attempts)
2011 %RUN %TD
QB 54.6% 82.4%
RB 42.7% 14.7%
WR 2.7% 2.9%
2012 %RUN %TD
QB 46.8% 61.9%
RB 51.3% 38.1%
WR 1.9% 0.0%
2016 %RUN %TD
QB 40.5% 38.5%
RB 58.6% 60.5%
WR 0.9% 2.6%
Part of that is having better (and bigger) backs, though we did have Hubert in 12.
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012
Ck7 had a pretty good fullback too but we just never gave him the ball
the problem with him being a complete badass is that it will suck more when he's broken in game 3 of 2017.
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012
Ck7 had a pretty good fullback too but we just never gave him the ball
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012
That's kind of my point. I am glad they found someone else to bash into the LOS in short yardage (2-5 yards) situations rather than the QB. At that point they obviously thought Klein was a better option than Wilson or any of our backs. I'm glad we have bigger backs and that they feel Dimel can take some of that load. I get the nepotism conspiracies, but I'm sure part of the rationale is not beating up the QB when you don't have to.
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012
That's kind of my point. I am glad they found someone else to bash into the LOS in short yardage (2-5 yards) situations rather than the QB. At that point they obviously thought Klein was a better option than Wilson or any of our backs. I'm glad we have bigger backs and that they feel Dimel can take some of that load. I get the nepotism conspiracies, but I'm sure part of the rationale is not beating up the QB when you don't have to.
I don't care about nepotism, we give the fullback the ball way too much, don't care who it is or who is calling plays. Fullbacks block, tailbacks run. That has nothing to do with what we were talking about but I felt it needed to be said.
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this team's personality more.I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.
2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this team's personality more.I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.
2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
It's a hot take that I'd take no personality if that meant an 11-1 regular season?I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this team's personality more.I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.
2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
LOL. The hottest of takes.
It's a hot take that I'd take no personality if that meant an 11-1 regular season?I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this team's personality more.I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.
2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
LOL. The hottest of takes.
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?Depends, what is the star rating of these poindexters?
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?
i just don't know if i could enjoy a national championship football run if they went the whole season without a 15 yard taunting penalty(https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/kansas-state-called-for-taunting-against-tamu-in-bowl-game.gif)
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.
But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.
#family
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.
But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.
#family
Which exceptions are you noting?
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?
Not trying to be a downer, but the 2017 team is not going to be better than the 2012 team.
everyone that isn't talking about how Ertz is awesome or our team swagger is awesome please shut the eff up thanks
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.I don't know if that's totally true; cause I enjoyed the eff out of 2011=12. (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fbsdm2.gif&hash=47ce332c0eaeaf6e6cb7316ae12afd774d956fcd)
But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.
#family
an overwhelmingly tuck opinion by michimichmichicat for certain
everyone that isn't talking about how Ertz is awesome or our team swagger is awesome please shut the eff up thanks
Okay CrustyTuck.
I do admit that we seem to have a little swagger.
Even the Iowan had a good one about LOL'ing at all the people who think Kstate is so unathletic.
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.
But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.
#family
Whatever happened w/ that?From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.
But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.
#family
Daniel Sams stotted and went to jail for a bit in connection with a murder charge :dunno:
This was horrendously stupid but very very funny.i just don't know if i could enjoy a national championship football run if they went the whole season without a 15 yard taunting penalty(https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/kansas-state-called-for-taunting-against-tamu-in-bowl-game.gif)
Whatever happened w/ that?From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.
But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.
#family
I want to say they dropped the charges on DSams, but can't find anything on it.
Daniel Sams stotted and went to jail for a bit in connection with a murder charge :dunno:
Mods, please rename thread in honor of Jesse's demonstrated complete badassery.
lolMods, please rename thread in honor of Jesse's demonstrated complete badassery.
done
Chris Harper is one of the most likable Cats OAT
Lol nohonest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?
Not trying to be a downer, but the 2017 team is not going to be better than the 2012 team.
And the 2012 team wasnt remotely close to being as good as our 2002 or 2003 teams. So what?
https://youtu.be/CmM4LQ7mANg:love:
Oh my
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Not a good passer, right guys?
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?
It's like we have Bishop back.
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?
It's like we have Bishop back.
He was at the game today!
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?
It's like we have Bishop back.
He was at the game today!
Yes. It made me feel old. Bishops first season and the Fiesta Bowl win was 20 YEARS AGO!
Sisco's best pass tonight was the 8 yard touchdown.
HerniaOh no
Sisco's best pass tonight was the 8 yard touchdown.The TD pass to Harris was also v impressive.
The nation's most efficient passer during the first true weekend of the college football season was not Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson, top NFL prospects Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen, or even one of the highly touted quarterbacks in the SEC.
In fact, it was a quarterback who is known more for using his legs.
Jesse Ertz put together the kind of performance for No. 19 Kansas State in a Week 1 blitz of Central Arkansas that turned some heads. He was 10 of 16 for 333 yards and four touchdowns, three of them from 50 yards or more, for a school-record 319.8 passer rating — all in just three quarters of work.
HerniaOh no
HerniaOh no
WTF?!?
Whats that? Just the little ole humpty dumpty Associated Press getting all up on our guy JSisco16.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/k-state-quarterback-jesse-ertz-has-big-opening-weekendQuoteThe nation's most efficient passer during the first true weekend of the college football season was not Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson, top NFL prospects Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen, or even one of the highly touted quarterbacks in the SEC.
In fact, it was a quarterback who is known more for using his legs.
Jesse Ertz put together the kind of performance for No. 19 Kansas State in a Week 1 blitz of Central Arkansas that turned some heads. He was 10 of 16 for 333 yards and four touchdowns, three of them from 50 yards or more, for a school-record 319.8 passer rating — all in just three quarters of work.
HerniaOh no
WTF?!?
grumblings of a left hand hernia?
HerniaOh no
WTF?!?
grumblings of a left hand hernia?
He's not hurt at all
HerniaOh no
WTF?!?
grumblings of a left hand hernia?
He's not hurt at all
yeah i think dax was just talking about his own injury, sustained during his weekly post-church service dump
dax if you ever branch of from gE just let me know and I'll get you my email to subscribe to daxcats.com
KK also told me hand mumped so don't dogpile on dax
prob hurt it at midnight practice
KK also told me hand mumped so don't dogpile on dax
fitz has been sitting on ertz's hand and that's what injured it
That last run was stotting level swag
looks like someone has been by the ertz bugI'm infected
@makeitrain, you were 100% right and I was 100% wrong about Ertz. He's better than Klein and right up there with Ell. Watching him run is amazing. His passing has improved a ton. Let's enjoy this together. :cheers:
ESPN TQBR (http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr)
Idk if I love this metric but I'll take it when it says nice things about our guy. ESPN claims TQBR accounts for the quality of opponent. Right now the Big XII has five of the top eight QBs. Kenny Hill is 28, Bender and Buchele are 93 and 95, respectively. Wgaf about Iowa State.
The Vandy dude Schumer is #1. :ohno:
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
i still like sisco a lot. He plays with a tremendous amount of heart and guts. Quite a few good balls that got dropped but he admittedly didn't have a fantastic game.
i still like sisco a lot. He plays with a tremendous amount of heart and guts. Quite a few good balls that got dropped but he admittedly didn't have a fantastic game.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
A&M is the pinnacle as of now.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
My bad, I must have missed all of the posts giving Vandy's defense props.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.
So this is a bad loss?
Not helping
The broader concern is that it feels like any progress made last year just got erased. The KSU team we saw today looked almost just like the one that was playing around this time last year.
That is a very bad sign for a Snyder team with a returning senior QB.
Ertz was very bad tonight. Playcalling was very bad, receivers were awful, penalties were dumb, but Ertz was really really bad tonight. I completely lost my crap in the stadium tonight when he missed a WIDE OPEN receiver on 4th and 7 at the end of the game. Then on the ride back to the hotel I was thinking, "welp, time to log onto gE and see MIR get all blowhardy and blame everyone but #HisGuy."
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.
So this is a bad loss?
Not helping
Your point is stupid and contrived, really who gives a crap. Mason Rudolph has never beaten a good team, neither did Pat Mahomes, who gives a crap. He did enough to beat OSU but he doesn't play defense so we didn't win. JT Barrett has beat a lot of good teams but he sucks. This QB from UT has the #4 team in OT and they scored one damn offensive touchdown in regulation. Your point is dumb, I'm sure you'll make 8 more posts about it though.
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game
catastrophe is 100% correct. And that's fine. After I got done with my usual over the top and over-exaggerated twitter meltdown I woke up this morning and realized that despite everything that happened last night and even how poor he preformed Jesse is a gamer. Last season was a lot of fun, and this season can still be fun. Jesse will not be remembered 10 years from now as one of the great K-State QBs and this season (probably)won't be a double digit win season, but Jesse has guts and there will be fun moments this season.The broader concern is that it feels like any progress made last year just got erased. The KSU team we saw today looked almost just like the one that was playing around this time last year.
That is a very bad sign for a Snyder team with a returning senior QB.
meh
That's not my stance at all, I lay equal blame on him, the WRs, and the coaching staff.
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game
Interesting take given how many carries he was forced into.
I dont know what game you guys watched but Ertz looked to me like he was afraid to hit someone or make a play all night long. He throws the ball poorly (half the time they are wounded ducks) and is in general just a big pu$$y.
The people that come out of the woodwork and some of the comments after a loss are pretty amazing.
how does a pu$$y and a p*ssy differ?One costs more.
Dang, I got "your mommed". Ouch.
Sounds more like you got herpes from your sister
Look at his post count tho
Look at his post count thoMatters not. One became known before the other.
honestly, this board could use the zeal. post more ksuchris2000
how does a pu$$y and a p*ssy differ?One costs more.
I wouldn't call Ertz a pussy, but I will say confidently that he has peaked and isn't a guy who can take over games like elite quarterbacks.
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I need the zeal so just keep it comingDD, you hit it on the nail head!!! IT'S THE ZEAL, YES IT'S THE ZEAL WE WERE LACKING IN THE VANDY GAME! :driving:
Mods, please move today's posts to the "browns give their brown opinions on a huge stud" threadWould read for the lols
Mods, please move today's posts to the "browns give their brown opinions on a huge stud" threadWould read for the lols
And no matter the reason for Ertz not driving for the extra yards today, I guarantee you he wants to barrel through. There is absolutely no reason to think he's a pussy. Don't get spoiled by the fact Klein could take an inhuman level of punishment.
Knuckle balls and end over end passes are obv harder to catch that Jake Waters spiral delivery systemThat's true, but it doesn't apply here.
And no matter the reason for Ertz not driving for the extra yards today, I guarantee you he wants to barrel through. There is absolutely no reason to think he's a pussy. Don't get spoiled by the fact Klein could take an inhuman level of punishment.
I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think our offensive play caller has adjusted the offense to a QB that isn't capable of being a freak battering ram and opposing defenses seem to know this. Waters was a good passer who had a great receiver to keep defenses honest. Ertz is a good passer with crap receivers and some call him a pussy when he scrambles and slides. Being a battering ram is clearly not his strength.
I thought the drops today... how many were there??... Were largely receiver errors as most were quite catchable... having said that, Ertz is still a pussy and a tentative runner, at best.id have to imagine you had a belly fully of pennies when you typed this
Some people have a hard time coming to grips with seeing their (fainting) goat being called for what he is.
Lotta betas itt dying to toss some Ertz salad.
i'm not an ertz fanboy. he's fine. but all you fuckwits calling him a "pussy" bc he doesn't wanna get destroyed on the field, can absolutely choke on a dick and die and just have zero idea about anything.
i'm not an ertz fanboy. he's fine. but all you fuckwits calling him a "pussy" bc he doesn't wanna get destroyed on the field, can absolutely choke on a dick and die and just have zero idea about anything.
You get tackled in football, fucktard
I got one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalistI'm trying hard to understand this post. I just can't make heads or tails of it.
got = for.Ahhh yes, thank you.
Autocorrect I assume.
I got one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalist
better?I for one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalistI'm trying hard to understand this post. I just can't make heads or tails of it.
Yeah. I get it now. I wasted for time than I'd like to admit trying to figure it out. Hahabetter?I for one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalistI'm trying hard to understand this post. I just can't make heads or tails of it.
Ertz taking dives like a French soccer player has him firmly in bitch status, imhoYou dumb fucks think our QB should be a ramming jamming rough ridin' FB/RB and throw a ball true as an arrow after the rough ridin' beating he takes. I know our coaches DGAF about our QB's health and pack them full of Novocain so they can take a rough ridin' beating that no decent FBS coach would do to their team QB.
I have no problem with him avoiding hits. His throws aren't always great, but man the receivers have to help him out. He could've easily been 12-17 for 190 and at least 2 TDs today if those guys catch. With 95 yards rushing and another TD, that's a good day.
I've learned to expect this
Also, when did it become goEtard to like Ertz?
I don’t want to go find the post but we all knew FSD was a dumbasstry post number 1
I have no problem with him avoiding hits. His throws aren't always great, but man the receivers have to help him out. He could've easily been 12-17 for 190 and at least 2 TDs today if those guys catch. With 95 yards rushing and another TD, that's a good day.
Avoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.
I remember one lol roll in the 2nd quarter. I mean he got a first down thoughAvoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.
I only recall one play where he got to the second level and he barrel rolled, it was in the fourth quarter. It might not have been apparent on TV but he had two defenders that had him pinned in and he was getting one more yard at best and he was going to pay for that yard.
Also for those of you complaining about him barrel rolling, in the postgame press conference LHC Bill Snyder said they do not work on quarterbacks sliding, which seems insane to me.
Delton is the better slider. :th_twocents:
Avoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.
I only recall one play where he got to the second level and he barrel rolled, it was in the fourth quarter. It might not have been apparent on TV but he had two defenders that had him pinned in and he was getting one more yard at best and he was going to pay for that yard.
Also for those of you complaining about him barrel rolling, in the postgame press conference LHC Bill Snyder said they do not work on quarterbacks sliding, which seems insane to me.
Delton is the better slider. :th_twocents:
He looked like a fainting goat on the last play but ok
In [Ertz's] last two, those passing numbers dipped to 17 of 45 for 195 yards a touchdown and two interceptions.
Delton is the better slider. :th_twocents:
He looked like a fainting goat on the last play but ok
The bar was set pretty low.
QuoteIn [Ertz's] last two, those passing numbers dipped to 17 of 45 for 195 yards a touchdown and two interceptions.
:sdeek:
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?Definitely not a yeast infection.
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx
Ertz is about on par with carson coffmanI could agree with this.
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Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx
:drool:Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx
I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game
Interesting take given how many carries he was forced into.
*See multiple ACL tears and OU game last year
:drool:Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx
I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?
idk how reliable this is, considering how 'open' our coaching staff is regarding injuries, but apparently a knee sprain...
http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/injuries.html
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?
idk how reliable this is, considering how 'open' our coaching staff is regarding injuries, but apparently a knee sprain...
http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/injuries.html
Torn meniscus, out 4-6 weeks, surgery this week. Delton will start.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
If Ertz has any desire to be able to even walk after the age of 40 he should get this surgery and never set foot on FB FIELD again.
Wish that dude coulda stayed healthy
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:drool:Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx
I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
I guess he didn't :dunno: It's fine though, it just would have just finished with him having a temper tantrum because I won't agree with him.
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?No. I do not remember that second half at all.
Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?
Let's make them stop our run game.
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?No. I do not remember that second half at all.
Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?
Let's make them stop our run game.
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?No. I do not remember that second half at all.
Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?
Let's make them stop our run game.
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS
You guys were right he is just a big pussy.
after the game I'd be all like "I guess they don't teach counting at TCU :ROFL: "TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS
what if they did that the whole game? we'd kill them
I would hope after three or four penalties in a row they would call an unsportsmanlike penalty. BOOM 15 yds boys!TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS
what if they did that the whole game? we'd kill them
You can't score points on a penalty.
You can't score points on a penalty.
You can't score points on a penalty.
Even better, we'll forever be on the .0000000001 yard line and can just kick a field goal when time expires at the end of regulation
I see no holes in this planYou can't score points on a penalty.
Even better, we'll forever be on the .0000000001 yard line and can just kick a field goal when time expires at the end of regulation
We're gonna need a old fashioned Bill miracle.
It's all a lie. Every last bit of it.
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.
:frown:
He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:
He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down: But has Ertz ever beaten a good team? A&M?
But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.
So this is a bad loss?
Not helping
Your point is stupid and contrived, really who gives a crap. Mason Rudolph has never beaten a good team, neither did Pat Mahomes, who gives a crap. He did enough to beat OSU but he doesn't play defense so we didn't win. JT Barrett has beat a lot of good teams but he sucks. This QB from UT has the #4 team in OT and they scored one damn offensive touchdown in regulation. Your point is dumb, I'm sure you'll make 8 more posts about it though.
Ertz = Mahomes
That makes me feel better.
If Ertz stays healthy his senior year is Snyder still our coach?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmM4LQ7mANg&ab_channel=DavidGladow
Does this team get to the Dr. Pepper this year with 2016 Ertz?No I don't think our offense is that bad. Maybe we beat ISU but not sure.
Does this team get to the Dr. Pepper this year with 2016 Ertz?No I don't think our offense is that bad. Maybe we beat ISU but not sure.
I definitely didn’t appreciate his athleticism as much as I should have. Great video, thanks for sharing.That was a fantastic highlight pack. Some great runs in there.
If that situation existed, one of them would have transferred out by then.Does this team get to the Dr. Pepper this year with 2016 Ertz?No I don't think our offense is that bad. Maybe we beat ISU but not sure.
If we had both Ertz and Thompson, we might have beat OSU.
Does this team get to the Dr. Pepper this year with 2016 Ertz?
We had a lot more talent than people gave us credit for in 2016. I don't feel like we ever took the field and felt like we didn't have enough talent to be competitive or win a game. The culture and personalities that makes a team is so important, and we had great personalities. Everybody pushed in the same direction. Everyone went above what was necessary. We all played for each other. We knew we had a lot of youth going into the season. When you have that you're going to have some nerves and some operational errors early.