why not Jim?

[Pett]

JFC. Why would he want to come here?

[wiley]

Didn't we get rid of our old turd regime for two new guys from $EC?  shouldn't this give even a sliver of hope?  I understand the KSU doom and gloom everyone hates us   mentality.  But it could change  

[WillieWatanabe]

jfc, i can't stand when people call Bill a legend, especially when they use it in that context.

[wetwillie]

Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.

K-State of the Future     Jim Leavitt HC Sean Snyder OC Tate Snyder LB Coach

[wiley]

Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.

K-State of the Future     Jim Leavitt HC Sean Snyder OC Tate Snyder LB Coach

I'd turn in my kstate card if 2 of the 3 became true

[WildcatNkilt]

I'm holding out hope that Leavitt comes in as D-Coord to improve (can't get worse) our Defense.  Then when OB'z is ready to retire, Currie can hire new.  Win-Win for Currie if he has the testicles to fight the gray-hairs. 

[Dr Rick Daris]

Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.

just looking at snyder's current staff should tell anyone w/ half a brain all they need to know about snyder's ability to hire for a specific job. although it should be easier if the position he is hiring for does not have to actually work for him. either way, the safe bet for all parties is for leavitt to come on board and there you go for the next ten years. hate this.

[sonofdaxjones]

IMO Currie will do everything he can to at least get a significant portion of the athletics side of K-State 2025 going before he bolts . . . if he accomplishes that, he'll be the leading candidate for the biggest AD jobs in college athletics.   Thus, he wil take the path that leads to this happening the fastest.

[Pete]

Mods,

I am kinda sick of reading about this stuff, so can you just change the thread title to "we got him" or "we lost him" or whatev when "it" actually happens.  I'll check back in then, tia.

[Sugar Dick]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  

[MeatSauce]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  

need a cigarette after that?

[CHONGS]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  

Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

[Sugar Dick]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  

Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD

[Panjandrum]

Keep telling yourself that. There are things Currie is great at and there are a ton of things he has no experience at, like hiring head coaches. First of all, Currie knows better to piss of Snyder and his meaningful supporters. Also, by allowing Snyder to pick his successor, he does not take the blame if it dowen't work out. Currie is too smart to go in against the legend that is Coach Snyder. Let's think about this from Currie's perspective: (1) allow a legendary future hall of fame coach with ties to the industry and knows K-State better than any other person select our next coach, or (2) allow a young 2nd year AD who has never hired a head coach hire K-State's next football coach. Currie is not that arrogant despite what people want to think. The next coach will have Snyder ties.

If I think I know where you got that from, I can almost guess the nard that wrote that.

[Rams]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  

Did this just murder this rough ridin' thread or bring it back to life?

  

[DQ12]

I'd be okay with Leavitt as our next head coach.

[CHONGS]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 

Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

[Panjandrum]

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

I just look forward to the day that the only Snyder you see on game day is the name on the side of the stadium and the press box.

I'm sick of him and his cronies holding this University and Athletic Department hostage.

[Sugar Dick]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 

Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

Concur.

On the flip side:  systematically excluding those with Snyder Ties just because they have Snyder ties from the pool (thereby reducing its size) = irrational and paranoid

[O-town Kat]

I wonder if Bill knows how dysfunctional his Kansas State family is right now on the computers and technology things out there.

[Dr Rick Daris]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 

Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

Concur.

On the flip side:  systematically excluding those with Snyder Ties just because they have Snyder ties from the pool (thereby reducing its size) = irrational and paranoid

what coach is being excluded because of his snyder ties?

[Sugar Dick]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU.  

Did this just murder this effing thread or bring it back to life?

  

My aim, per usual, was murder, with recitation as an acceptable consequence

[Panjandrum]

I wonder if Bill knows how dysfunctional his Kansas State family is right now on the computers and technology things out there.

His grandson is back in school and can't fetch him the Internet.

[Sugar Dick]

What's hilarious and sad about this board:  The fear of hiring someone with "Snyder Ties" or a "K-State Guy"

Look around the NCAA and identify the successful coaches.  When you realize how many have "Snyder Ties" or could be classified as a "K-State Guy", take a bong rip off your tailpipe and end your life because you are so stupid you can't possibly be of any use to society.

This also goes for anyone who compares Snyder to Prince.  <--  These people are actually dumber than those with the aforementioned 'fraidy cat fear.

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State regardless of their baggage  I don't care if they maliciously ran over someone with their car and framed Joques Crawford, or raped a girl and blamed it on Ell Roberson.  We need to try and win all the games on our schedule and having really good coaches helps do that.


Rant:

Ron Prince won 7 games in the the Big XII therefore he's as good a coach as Urban Meyer who won 7 games this season.  Ignore all other accomplishments, if Prince had Urban Meyers staff and Raheem Morris' wife wasn't a bitch, and Freeman could play both ways he'd be on his way to a NC.  Listen:  Ron Prince is a sh*tty coach, from day 1 til the day the jury lays the verdict on his bogus buyout clause written on a McDonald's napkin.  Stop trying to be a contrarian for the sake of making yourself feel intelligent, I know it's en vogue on goEMAW.com, but this is like the biggest collection of dorks/geaks/losers in all of K-State fandom.  Acting like one makes you one.  STFU. 

Without addressing the rest of your straw-burning, list all of the successes AND failures from the Snyder coaching tree.  Then we can see if insisting a new hire to be part of the Snyder tree is better than running an actual coaching search.

Google: "Snyder coaching tree"

Straw = "AND failures"

F*ck you,
SD

We should hire the best coach we can get to come to K-State.  Full stop.  The fear is that we are limiting our search to ONLY within the Snyder tree.  I don't think choosing from this limited pool of applicants is as good as conducting an actual national coaching search.

Concur.

On the flip side:  systematically excluding those with Snyder Ties just because they have Snyder ties from the pool (thereby reducing its size) = irrational and paranoid

what coach is being excluded because of his snyder ties?

Not sure, not involved in the nonexistent coaching search.

[sys]

LHC Bill Snyder will be around (still HC) longer than John Currie.  I would not be shocked to see Currie walk if Leavitt is hired, who could blame him?

IMO Currie will do everything he can to at least get a significant portion of the athletics side of K-State 2025 going before he bolts . . . if he accomplishes that, he'll be the leading candidate for the biggest AD jobs in college athletics.   Thus, he wil take the path that leads to this happening the fastest.

currie is ambitious and will be interested in, and would leave for, any clearly better ad job that opens up.  that has nothing to do with leavitt being hired or not.  he just wants to move up.

firing snyder would be a huge risk for him.  no potential employer would blame him for retaining uberpopular snyder to eternity no matter the results, whereas if he hires a failure, that'll look bad.