CHIEFS

[joda]

kc fans need to get over blaming the owners. i don't like either of them all that much and would absolutely prefer better ownership, but that is not something we fans can do anything about. we can refuse to support terrible products, and the persons responsible for those poor products, namely - the general managers.

pioli and moore are far more responsible and deserving of any blame.

when was the last time any chief fans felt good about draft results. definitely not overly impressed with the past couple. our line looks great now and should for a while but other than that...

i'm not speaking about the drafts so much as the general organizational philosophy... pioli acting as if he knows something no one else does. doggedly refusing to admit mistakes. failing to acknowledge that brady and belichek are the reason "the patriot way" won games. hiring retread patriot patsies who will goose step behind him and never dare to question him.

the drafts are merely an extension of pioli's half-baked philosophy.

 

[j-dub]

I'm still trying to figure out what Hunt has done that's so horrible. 4 of the top 5 Chiefs players are signed to multi-year deals, the 5th (Bowe) I wonder how much he actually wants to be here. Carr leaving sucked, but he signed a ridiculous contract with Dallas (he'll have the highest cap hit of any CB currently signed next year) that's way over value so I don't see that as an issue with the owner not paying up. I see poor drafting and not improving the QB situation as the biggest problems facing the Chiefs and those fall squarely on the shoulder of the GM. I still believe that the Chiefs haven't been in the right situation to get a franchise QB but re-signing Orton or any number of other short-term fixes would have been better for the team. Pioli and Cassell is basically the NFL equivelent of Moore and Francouer.

there is no such thing as the "right situation."

smart gm's value qb's above all else. they do whatever it takes to go and get them.

kc could have done the same damn thing that washington did. and they absolutely could have traded up to get tannehill.

do you guys know how much the falcons gave up to trade up for julio jones?? 5 picks. FIVE. not only that - TWO 1st rounders. they moved from the 27th pick to the 6th.

we need a gm who wants to win. period.

[Stevesie60]

Winston's statements were justified. Every NFL fan got mad at Vick for dog fighting, yet it's okay to cheer for someone on your own team to get a head injury so bad that it could end there season? Is their much difference? The gladiator comment was not that far off base.

[kim carnes]

Winston's statements were justified. Every NFL fan got mad at Vick for dog fighting, yet it's okay to cheer for someone on your own team to get a head injury so bad that it could end their season? Is their much difference? The gladiator comment was not that far off base.

none of this would have happened if they would stop playing cassell

[ednksu]

I'm still trying to figure out what Hunt has done that's so horrible. 4 of the top 5 Chiefs players are signed to multi-year deals, the 5th (Bowe) I wonder how much he actually wants to be here. Carr leaving sucked, but he signed a ridiculous contract with Dallas (he'll have the highest cap hit of any CB currently signed next year) that's way over value so I don't see that as an issue with the owner not paying up. I see poor drafting and not improving the QB situation as the biggest problems facing the Chiefs and those fall squarely on the shoulder of the GM. I still believe that the Chiefs haven't been in the right situation to get a franchise QB but re-signing Orton or any number of other short-term fixes would have been better for the team. Pioli and Cassell is basically the NFL equivelent of Moore and Francouer.

there is no such thing as the "right situation."

smart gm's value qb's above all else. they do whatever it takes to go and get them.

kc could have done the same damn thing that washington did. and they absolutely could have traded up to get tannehill.

do you guys know how much the falcons gave up to trade up for julio jones?? 5 picks. FIVE. not only that - TWO 1st rounders. they moved from the 27th pick to the 6th.

we need a gm who wants to win. period.

he is partly right, that is the downfall of a team that goes from 6-7 to 8-5.  Are Chiefs fans willing to tank an entire season to get the draft pick neede?  I don't think many would be willing to make the deal ATL did.  They are a much more complete team, so they could mortgage their future on a Jones pick because they don't have as many holes to fill else where.  KC is almost there though. Decent talent at many skill positions, but I wonder about depth.

[j-dub]

Winston's statements were justified. Every NFL fan got mad at Vick for dog fighting, yet it's okay to cheer for someone on your own team to get a head injury so bad that it could end their season? Is their much difference? The gladiator comment was not that far off base.

yeah. can't fault winston at all. he defended his teammate.

this situation has been coming to a head for a long while. he got booed at a celebrity softball game in the offseason for pete sake...

kc fans are tired of being treated like they are mindless morons. that's why they booed cano at the hr derby. that's why they cheered cassel going down. if pioli and crennel weren't going to put him on the bench, an injury was the only thing that would.

[joda]

I'm still trying to figure out what Hunt has done that's so horrible. 4 of the top 5 Chiefs players are signed to multi-year deals, the 5th (Bowe) I wonder how much he actually wants to be here. Carr leaving sucked, but he signed a ridiculous contract with Dallas (he'll have the highest cap hit of any CB currently signed next year) that's way over value so I don't see that as an issue with the owner not paying up. I see poor drafting and not improving the QB situation as the biggest problems facing the Chiefs and those fall squarely on the shoulder of the GM. I still believe that the Chiefs haven't been in the right situation to get a franchise QB but re-signing Orton or any number of other short-term fixes would have been better for the team. Pioli and Cassell is basically the NFL equivelent of Moore and Francouer.

there is no such thing as the "right situation."

smart gm's value qb's above all else. they do whatever it takes to go and get them.

kc could have done the same damn thing that washington did. and they absolutely could have traded up to get tannehill.

do you guys know how much the falcons gave up to trade up for julio jones?? 5 picks. FIVE. not only that - TWO 1st rounders. they moved from the 27th pick to the 6th.

we need a gm who wants to win. period.

Didn't think going after Tannehill was a good move and still don't. The only 2 QB's I wanted in the 1st round last year where Luck and RG3 and that wasn't happening. I wanted Weeden in the 2nd but Cleveland got desperate. I really wanted Wilson in the 3rd and Pioli took a developmental OLineman but it's arguable whether either of those 2 are true "franchise" QB's. I've detailed my belief in the perfect storm that kept the Chiefs from getting one of the good ones in the past so I'm not going to do it again. But I don't think anyone will argue that improvements should have been made at the position and the Chiefs have missed some opportunities to take gambles.

[j-dub]

I'm still trying to figure out what Hunt has done that's so horrible. 4 of the top 5 Chiefs players are signed to multi-year deals, the 5th (Bowe) I wonder how much he actually wants to be here. Carr leaving sucked, but he signed a ridiculous contract with Dallas (he'll have the highest cap hit of any CB currently signed next year) that's way over value so I don't see that as an issue with the owner not paying up. I see poor drafting and not improving the QB situation as the biggest problems facing the Chiefs and those fall squarely on the shoulder of the GM. I still believe that the Chiefs haven't been in the right situation to get a franchise QB but re-signing Orton or any number of other short-term fixes would have been better for the team. Pioli and Cassell is basically the NFL equivelent of Moore and Francouer.

there is no such thing as the "right situation."

smart gm's value qb's above all else. they do whatever it takes to go and get them.

kc could have done the same damn thing that washington did. and they absolutely could have traded up to get tannehill.

do you guys know how much the falcons gave up to trade up for julio jones?? 5 picks. FIVE. not only that - TWO 1st rounders. they moved from the 27th pick to the 6th.

we need a gm who wants to win. period.

he is partly right, that is the downfall of a team that goes from 6-7 to 8-5.  Are Chiefs fans willing to tank an entire season to get the draft pick neede?  I don't think many would be willing to make the deal ATL did.  They are a much more complete team, so they could mortgage their future on a Jones pick because they don't have as many holes to fill else where.  KC is almost there though. Decent talent at many skill positions, but I wonder about depth.

and this right here is the very attitude and philosophy that will enable pioli and moore to continue their status quo without any fear of reproach.

my goodness.

[ednksu]

I'm still trying to figure out what Hunt has done that's so horrible. 4 of the top 5 Chiefs players are signed to multi-year deals, the 5th (Bowe) I wonder how much he actually wants to be here. Carr leaving sucked, but he signed a ridiculous contract with Dallas (he'll have the highest cap hit of any CB currently signed next year) that's way over value so I don't see that as an issue with the owner not paying up. I see poor drafting and not improving the QB situation as the biggest problems facing the Chiefs and those fall squarely on the shoulder of the GM. I still believe that the Chiefs haven't been in the right situation to get a franchise QB but re-signing Orton or any number of other short-term fixes would have been better for the team. Pioli and Cassell is basically the NFL equivelent of Moore and Francouer.

there is no such thing as the "right situation."

smart gm's value qb's above all else. they do whatever it takes to go and get them.

kc could have done the same damn thing that washington did. and they absolutely could have traded up to get tannehill.

do you guys know how much the falcons gave up to trade up for julio jones?? 5 picks. FIVE. not only that - TWO 1st rounders. they moved from the 27th pick to the 6th.

we need a gm who wants to win. period.

he is partly right, that is the downfall of a team that goes from 6-7 to 8-5.  Are Chiefs fans willing to tank an entire season to get the draft pick neede?  I don't think many would be willing to make the deal ATL did.  They are a much more complete team, so they could mortgage their future on a Jones pick because they don't have as many holes to fill else where.  KC is almost there though. Decent talent at many skill positions, but I wonder about depth.

and this right here is the very attitude and philosophy that will enable pioli and moore to continue their status quo without any fear of reproach.

my goodness.

is english your first language or are you just stupid?

ATL is top to bottom a better team, not even debatable.  They can spend multiple draft pics to get a super star at a skill position, the Chiefs are not anywhere near good enough as an organization to mortgage that much of their future on 1 skill position. 

The best thing KC could do is to tank a season to get the #1 pick.  They can't give away years worth of picks to get a QB when they can't even keep their all star skill position players with the crap contracts they give out. 

[Pete]

Winston's statements were justified. Every NFL fan got mad at Vick for dog fighting, yet it's okay to cheer for someone on your own team to get a head injury so bad that it could end there season? Is their much difference? The gladiator comment was not that far off base.

Most of the reports that I have read disagree with Winston's assessment, and even suggest that he was mistakenly interpreting the fans cheers for Quinn, long after Cassel was up.

Winston is also close friends with Cassel.

[j-dub]

is english your first language or are you just stupid?

ATL is top to bottom a better team, not even debatable.  They can spend multiple draft pics to get a super star at a skill position, the Chiefs are not anywhere near good enough as an organization to mortgage that much of their future on 1 skill position. 

The best thing KC could do is to tank a season to get the #1 pick.  They can't give away years worth of picks to get a QB when they can't even keep their all star skill position players with the crap contracts they give out.

The chiefs lack two things. a qb and depth. that's it.

you wanna know why? because scott pioli traded for matt cassel, gave him a huge contract, and told the fans that cassel was a qb who can win a championship. he refuses to admit he is wrong. therefore, at the most important position in sports, the chiefs have a guy they only trusted to throw the ball 4 times in the 1st half today. as for depth, we know why we don't have any depth at the qb position. he jettisoned orton because orton was better; he was only marginally better, but that was all the reason scott needed to protect his golden boy/anchor. as for the lack of depth in the secondary - i have no earthly idea why scott has never valued depth in the defensive backfield. but year after year, he has consistently failed to roster talented depth at cb and safety. the d-line is much better against the run than the pass. dorsey, jackson, bailey, powe, poe - none of them are effective pass rushers. other than dorsey, they are all pioli draft picks.

sensing a common theme here dumbass

the chiefs have very good starters across the board. they lack depth, and most importantly a qb. they have a crap ton of cap room to acquire said lack of depth. what they need most importantly, is to remove their head from their ass, fire their joke of a gm/head coach/offensive coordinator and join the rest of the modern nfl by selecting a freaking qb.

tell me again you infantile moron why it would be "mortgaging the future" of a 1-4 team who hasn't led a single game by even a single solitary second to draft an effing qb in the 1st round ?

[ednksu]

The chiefs lack two things. a qb and depth. that's it.

you wanna know why? because scott pioli traded for matt cassel, gave him a huge contract, and told the fans that cassel was a qb who can win a championship. he refuses to admit he is wrong. therefore, at the most important position in sports, the chiefs have a guy they only trusted to throw the ball 4 times in the 1st half today. as for depth, we know why we don't have any depth at the qb position. he jettisoned orton because orton was better; he was only marginally better, but that was all the reason scott needed to protect his golden boy/anchor. as for the lack of depth in the secondary - i have no earthly idea why scott has never valued depth in the defensive backfield. but year after year, he has consistently failed to roster talented depth at cb and safety. the d-line is much better against the run than the pass. dorsey, jackson, bailey, powe, poe - none of them are effective pass rushers. other than dorsey, they are all pioli draft picks.

sensing a common theme here dumbass

the chiefs have very good starters across the board. they lack depth, and most importantly a qb. they have a crap ton of cap room to acquire said lack of depth. what they need most importantly, is to remove their head from their ass, fire their joke of a gm/head coach/offensive coordinator and join the rest of the modern nfl by selecting a freaking qb.

tell me again you infantile moron why it would be "mortgaging the future" of a 1-4 team who hasn't led a single game by even a single solitary second to draft an effing qb in the 1st round ?

Es espanol tu idioma primera?

Nothing you are saying disagrees with my position you idiot.  I said long before you the Chiefs have no depth.  We can't spend draft picks like ATL did to get a QB right now because he would be deaded by week 3 because of the rest of the holes on the team.  The best option for the Chiefs is to tank a season, draft a high round QB from that, and keep their draft picks to spend on the other spots needed on the team.  ATL can spend those picks trading up because they don't suck as a team.  The Chiefs are not 1 QB away from being good. You openly admit that! That is what mortgaging your means. 

[Stevesie60]

Winston's statements were justified. Every NFL fan got mad at Vick for dog fighting, yet it's okay to cheer for someone on your own team to get a head injury so bad that it could end there season? Is their much difference? The gladiator comment was not that far off base.

Most of the reports that I have read disagree with Winston's assessment, and even suggest that he was mistakenly interpreting the fans cheers for Quinn, long after Cassel was up.

Winston is also close friends with Cassel.

Fair enough. If it was true that'd be pretty tough to listen to as a player.

[AppleJack]

Go eff yourself, Eric Winston. what a piece of crap.

[j-dub]

The chiefs lack two things. a qb and depth. that's it.

you wanna know why? because scott pioli traded for matt cassel, gave him a huge contract, and told the fans that cassel was a qb who can win a championship. he refuses to admit he is wrong. therefore, at the most important position in sports, the chiefs have a guy they only trusted to throw the ball 4 times in the 1st half today. as for depth, we know why we don't have any depth at the qb position. he jettisoned orton because orton was better; he was only marginally better, but that was all the reason scott needed to protect his golden boy/anchor. as for the lack of depth in the secondary - i have no earthly idea why scott has never valued depth in the defensive backfield. but year after year, he has consistently failed to roster talented depth at cb and safety. the d-line is much better against the run than the pass. dorsey, jackson, bailey, powe, poe - none of them are effective pass rushers. other than dorsey, they are all pioli draft picks.

sensing a common theme here dumbass

the chiefs have very good starters across the board. they lack depth, and most importantly a qb. they have a crap ton of cap room to acquire said lack of depth. what they need most importantly, is to remove their head from their ass, fire their joke of a gm/head coach/offensive coordinator and join the rest of the modern nfl by selecting a freaking qb.

tell me again you infantile moron why it would be "mortgaging the future" of a 1-4 team who hasn't led a single game by even a single solitary second to draft an effing qb in the 1st round ?

Es espanol tu idioma primera?

Nothing you are saying disagrees with my position you idiot.  I said long before you the Chiefs have no depth.  We can't spend draft picks like ATL did to get a QB right now because he would be deaded by week 3 because of the rest of the holes on the team.  The best option for the Chiefs is to tank a season, draft a high round QB from that, and keep their draft picks to spend on the other spots needed on the team.  ATL can spend those picks trading up because they don't suck as a team.  The Chiefs are not 1 QB away from being good. You openly admit that! That is what mortgaging your means.

like talking to an effing brick. let me break this down.

- this team DOES NOT have lots of holes. it has a lack of depth (excepting o-line and rb).
- depth is easy to acquire through free agency, trades and middle/late round draft picks.
- this team has very strong starting lineups on both O and D except for the QB.  the d-line does not rush the passer well because of design. i brought it up because it's the best example of scott not valuing premium picks. scott and romeo want d ends that will take up blockers rather than make plays in the backfield. scott has therefore spent premium picks on average players. he could have gotten the likes of jackson in the 7th rd. you scream and duck under the covers at the idea of trading picks, but he has been wasting them anyway.
- this team has 28 mill in cap room give or take.

still with me? okay.

- when trading up into the top half of the 1st round, a team will need to give up 1st and 2nd rd picks.
- 1st and 2nd round picks are used on starters. on high impact players. not on depth.
- you keep asserting that the chiefs have too many holes, and they need the picks they would be giving up in order to fill those holes
- were dorsey, albert, flowers, DJamer, jackson, berry, baldwin, arenas, mccluster, and poe drafted for depth? of course not. they were drafted to be impact starters. they are the draft picks the chiefs would forfeit by moving up.
- again. the chiefs have good starting lineups on both sides. the single biggest need is an impact qb. period.
- in order for a team to put itself in position to take an impact qb, assuming that they don't have a top 10 pick, they will have to give up some premium picks.

pioli has had 28 mill in cap room to fix the depth issues. he has chosen not to use it. that is why the team lacks depth.

the chiefs lack of depth and their 1st and 2nd rd draft picks in the next couple years are totally unrelated issues.

lost in all the bs that you spewed is one undeniable fact - an elite qb is more important than anything else. and you don't choose not to trade up and pick a qb because you might not feel all that comfortable with your 3rd string nickel back.

there's nothing else to say

[Stevesie60]

[j-dub]

 

[ednksu]

The chiefs lack two things. a qb and depth. that's it.

you wanna know why? because scott pioli traded for matt cassel, gave him a huge contract, and told the fans that cassel was a qb who can win a championship. he refuses to admit he is wrong. therefore, at the most important position in sports, the chiefs have a guy they only trusted to throw the ball 4 times in the 1st half today. as for depth, we know why we don't have any depth at the qb position. he jettisoned orton because orton was better; he was only marginally better, but that was all the reason scott needed to protect his golden boy/anchor. as for the lack of depth in the secondary - i have no earthly idea why scott has never valued depth in the defensive backfield. but year after year, he has consistently failed to roster talented depth at cb and safety. the d-line is much better against the run than the pass. dorsey, jackson, bailey, powe, poe - none of them are effective pass rushers. other than dorsey, they are all pioli draft picks.

sensing a common theme here dumbass

the chiefs have very good starters across the board. they lack depth, and most importantly a qb. they have a crap ton of cap room to acquire said lack of depth. what they need most importantly, is to remove their head from their ass, fire their joke of a gm/head coach/offensive coordinator and join the rest of the modern nfl by selecting a freaking qb.

tell me again you infantile moron why it would be "mortgaging the future" of a 1-4 team who hasn't led a single game by even a single solitary second to draft an effing qb in the 1st round ?

Es espanol tu idioma primera?

Nothing you are saying disagrees with my position you idiot.  I said long before you the Chiefs have no depth.  We can't spend draft picks like ATL did to get a QB right now because he would be deaded by week 3 because of the rest of the holes on the team.  The best option for the Chiefs is to tank a season, draft a high round QB from that, and keep their draft picks to spend on the other spots needed on the team.  ATL can spend those picks trading up because they don't suck as a team.  The Chiefs are not 1 QB away from being good. You openly admit that! That is what mortgaging your means.

like talking to an effing brick. let me break this down.

- this team DOES NOT have lots of holes. it has a lack of depth (excepting o-line and rb).
- depth is easy to acquire through free agency, trades and middle/late round draft picks.
- this team has very strong starting lineups on both O and D except for the QB.  the d-line does not rush the passer well because of design. i brought it up because it's the best example of scott not valuing premium picks. scott and romeo want d ends that will take up blockers rather than make plays in the backfield. scott has therefore spent premium picks on average players. he could have gotten the likes of jackson in the 7th rd. you scream and duck under the covers at the idea of trading picks, but he has been wasting them anyway.
- this team has 28 mill in cap room give or take.

still with me? okay.

- when trading up into the top half of the 1st round, a team will need to give up 1st and 2nd rd picks.
- 1st and 2nd round picks are used on starters. on high impact players. not on depth.
- you keep asserting that the chiefs have too many holes, and they need the picks they would be giving up in order to fill those holes
- were dorsey, albert, flowers, DJamer, jackson, berry, baldwin, arenas, mccluster, and poe drafted for depth? of course not. they were drafted to be impact starters. they are the draft picks the chiefs would forfeit by moving up.
- again. the chiefs have good starting lineups on both sides. the single biggest need is an impact qb. period.
- in order for a team to put itself in position to take an impact qb, assuming that they don't have a top 10 pick, they will have to give up some premium picks.

pioli has had 28 mill in cap room to fix the depth issues. he has chosen not to use it. that is why the team lacks depth.

the chiefs lack of depth and their 1st and 2nd rd draft picks in the next couple years are totally unrelated issues.

lost in all the bs that you spewed is one undeniable fact - an elite qb is more important than anything else. and you don't choose not to trade up and pick a qb because you might not feel all that comfortable with your 3rd string nickel back.

there's nothing else to say

I really think you are completely missing the rough ridin' point of all my posts.  I don't know what your first language is, but your english reading comp is rough ridin' awful. 

I already said the Chiefs need better depth and have decent first tier starters for most of their skill spots.  YOU ARE AGREEING WITH ME HERE.
No one is saying that you use top draft picks for depth.  The players the Chiefs currently have right now are fringe starters everywhere else outside of the skill spots.  The D line and O line have a lot of holes.  Dorsey, Jackson, DMC are not top tier starters at their spots.  For christ sake the Chiefs have a 30 year old guard playing center and you think thats good staring lineup. 

Yes the Chiefs #1 need is an elite starting QB, as I've always said.  The better way to get in position to get that player would be to tank a season, get the #1 spot and draft and develop.  Your dumbass way of mortgaging multiple years of draft picks leaves nothing around the new QB.  Bowe is going to leave, Charles is going to leave, Baldwin will probably leave when Hunt refuses to pay legitimate starter salaries to these top tier players (Baldwin may not if he get a 'character issues' reputation).  Your dumbass way doesn't leave ANY draft picks for those who will eventually leave when the Chiefs cheap out (see: Brandon Carr).  Your dambass way prevents the Chiefs form replacing crap players like Dorsey who haven't lived up to anywhere near to their draft position. Your dumbass way prevents building depth because we should be replacing players and demoting current starters to lesser roles as new better players are brought in. 

Ya know I just re-read your post for the 3rd team because I couldn't believe how much you missed in this thread.  I really can't believe how dense you are. 

[Stevesie60]

ednksu, if I were the K-State mask I would make a joke about you being on your period. Unfortunately for you, I will do the same as Jakesie60 because it seems to be the best way to sum up your behavior right now.

[ednksu]

ednksu, if I were the K-State mask I would make a joke about you being on your period. Unfortunately for you, I will do the same as Jakesie60 because it seems to be the best way to sum up your behavior right now.

what behavior is that?  Lolling at a guy who can't comprehend what I've written?  Lolling at a guy who is trying to prove his point so hard he seems more like a high school kid who can't stand to be proven wrong?

[Stevesie60]

ednksu, if I were the K-State mask I would make a joke about you being on your period. Unfortunately for you, I will do the same as Jakesie60 because it seems to be the best way to sum up your behavior right now.

what behavior is that?  Lolling at a guy who can't comprehend what I've written?  Lolling at a guy who is trying to prove his point so hard he seems more like a high school kid who can't stand to be proven wrong?

You're describing yourself. The first sign was asking a message board poster "OH MY GOD DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT ENGLISH IS!?!? CAN YOU NOT READ!?!?! DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND?!?!?" And then you did that for every single one of your posts. He made a lot better points than you did. j-dub is talking about all of the things the Chiefs CONTINUALLY do, and you are talking about what is going to happen in the future (like losing Charles and Baldwin and Bowe) and you act like they are fact. So who is being illogical? The guy posting 100% accurately about what the Chiefs do every year or the one pretending to know the future?

[Cartierfor3]

Jakesie,

DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?  I DON'T THINK YOU DO!  ednksu CAN predict the future you stupid idiot.  good grief you non-english speaking mexican. 

[ednksu]

ednksu, if I were the K-State mask I would make a joke about you being on your period. Unfortunately for you, I will do the same as Jakesie60 because it seems to be the best way to sum up your behavior right now.

what behavior is that?  Lolling at a guy who can't comprehend what I've written?  Lolling at a guy who is trying to prove his point so hard he seems more like a high school kid who can't stand to be proven wrong?

You're describing yourself. The first sign was asking a message board poster "OH MY GOD DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT ENGLISH IS!?!? CAN YOU NOT READ!?!?! DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND?!?!?" And then you did that for every single one of your posts. He made a lot better points than you did. j-dub is talking about all of the things the Chiefs CONTINUALLY do, and you are talking about what is going to happen in the future (like losing Charles and Baldwin and Bowe) and you act like they are fact. So who is being illogical? The guy posting 100% accurately about what the Chiefs do every year or the one pretending to know the future?

sorry dude you're wrong here.  First time I responded to him was about selling off multiple picks for a QB when the Chiefs don't have enough piece to make that work.  He brought up JJ at ATL, and I posted about how that was wrong.  J's next post was a curt post which totally missed the point about how my attitude was some how tacit support for Pioli, when anyone who understands english could clearly see I'm no supporter of him or the ownership.  What can I say, I don't like it when idiots misrepresent my ideas, worse when people can't even understand basic posts.  I don't care that he can't read posts and spews while agreeing with the VAST majority of what I've said, I think its pretty funny.

I do speak to the past, I speak to how KC fans are too loyal for their own good.  I speak to how ownership of the Royals and Chiefs have abused the privileged of having good fans for DECADES.  I speak about losing Bowe and Charles because I see the recent past with Carr (see how I reference track record before everyone else?) Jared Allen and the litany of players the Royals have let go.  KC ownership is the problem, not just a short term hire GM. 

[ednksu]

Jakesie,

DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?  I DON'T THINK YOU DO!  ednksu CAN predict the future you stupid idiot.  good grief you non-english speaking mexican.

racist bigot is racist

[kim carnes]

ednksu, if I were the K-State mask I would make a joke about you being on your period. Unfortunately for you, I will do the same as Jakesie60 because it seems to be the best way to sum up your behavior right now.

what behavior is that?  Lolling at a guy who can't comprehend what I've written?  Lolling at a guy who is trying to prove his point so hard he seems more like a high school kid who can't stand to be proven wrong?

You're describing yourself. The first sign was asking a message board poster "OH MY GOD DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT ENGLISH IS!?!? CAN YOU NOT READ!?!?! DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND?!?!?" And then you did that for every single one of your posts. He made a lot better points than you did. j-dub is talking about all of the things the Chiefs CONTINUALLY do, and you are talking about what is going to happen in the future (like losing Charles and Baldwin and Bowe) and you act like they are fact. So who is being illogical? The guy posting 100% accurately about what the Chiefs do every year or the one pretending to know the future?

sorry dude you're wrong here.  First time I responded to him was about selling off multiple picks for a QB when the Chiefs don't have enough piece to make that work.  He brought up JJ at ATL, and I posted about how that was wrong.  J's next post was a curt post which totally missed the point about how my attitude was some how tacit support for Pioli, when anyone who understands english could clearly see I'm no supporter of him or the ownership.  What can I say, I don't like it when idiots misrepresent my ideas, worse when people can't even understand basic posts.  I don't care that he can't read posts and spews while agreeing with the VAST majority of what I've said, I think its pretty funny.

I do speak to the past, I speak to how KC fans are too loyal for their own good.  I speak to how ownership of the Royals and Chiefs have abused the privileged of having good fans for DECADES.  I speak about losing Bowe and Charles because I see the recent past with Carr (see how I reference track record before everyone else?) Jared Allen and the litany of players the Royals have let go.  KC ownership is the problem, not just a short term hire GM.