2024 Presidential Race

[Spracne]

Looks like someone got into the British Sudafed last night/this morning.

[Kid In the Hall]

If the Holocaust is the only genocide that you teach, then people end up believing that anything that falls short of killing 6 million people isn't really a genocide.

Right, like I don't think even reading the verbatim text provided that he was downplaying it, but linking it to other atrocities. Like the Holocaust is the one of the most stark and devasting one, but if that is the only view you see then it comes off as the only thing ever bad to happen to a group of people ever. Sounds like if anything he wants to reinforce that liquidating people just for who they are is bad, and here are tons of examples of them. Don't do that.

History nerd here...

Depending on what historian you want to argue with (and/or Dax), there have been as many as 30+ "genocides" since the beginning of the 20th century alone. To isolate the Holocaust as a singular event in the context of what constitutes a genocide is just silly. You can - and should - clarify the extremes, severity, etc. of the Holocaust (and should with any discussion of any genocide), but the dude saying what he said would be a pretty common practice for a discussion about genocide in a history class type of setting.

Would we be outraged if we said that WW2 was the most costly war of all-time, but also that WW1 was a pretty big deal too (along with loads of other wars) and that it's worth exploring common themes between them? Does that minimize what happened during WW2?

The obvious answer is no. But, people who wanna be outraged are gonna be outraged.

[steve dave]

Maybe they’ll go with the holocaust thing?

https://x.com/hugolowell/status/1824129287940964766?s=46&t=odWzhuZU7P443NcVwlC1iQ


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[chum1]

I remember when Bill Clinton was elected there were women who were like, "this is the first president that I could actually imagine myself having sex with."

https://x.com/orangecountydem/status/1823757559343538244

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Bidenomics

[steve dave]

lmao at the shot and chaser

[Sandstone Outcropping]

lmao at the shot and chaser

incredible ball tazing

[sonofdaxjones]

.#blueanongE- Picking and choosing when the market is or isn’t the real economy is just absolutely fantastic.

#blogkaren and Lick complaining/crying about posting frequency is also fantastic.


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[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanongE - the selective defenders of the free market are getting fed a real turd sandwich by their chosen POTUS candidate and all this talk of market caps on commodities. 

Given her abject failure at tackling root cause immigration issues it’s not the least bit surprising she doesn’t want to tackle the root cause of food price inflation. But would rather go down this meaningless and highly virtue signaling path of tackling the very nebulous “price gouging” path.  Playing to the absolute stupidest of the stupid.


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[steve dave]

NOOOOO!!!! NOT HEALTHCARE! eff! crap!

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1824188422292115595

[sonofdaxjones]

This is called price controls and it never ever works.

This is a balls across the nose shot at the free market (selectively of course) defenders of #blueanongE

https://twitter.com/yamiche/status/1823909069742096813?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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[Dugout DickStone]

That was how I learned about the holocaust - it was one of multiple.  Likely the worst but not alone

[sonofdaxjones]

Nothing price controls can’t fix.

#itsfineitsallfine

https://twitter.com/realejantoni/status/1824260032264802690?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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[steve dave]

not sure why this is in the presidential race thread, especially given the administration's position on fed independence and that fact that the previous administration appointed this fed chief. NEVERTHELESS, I'm diving in.

Dax, do you believe the Fed operated poorly? Or did you post here beause you believe the executive branch should have a say in Fed decisions like Donald Trump does?

I personally believe the Fed/Jerome has navigated the last 5 years extraordinarily well. Our economy (objectively doing incredibly) is evidence of that. I do think they should have cut a bit earlier but they are nothing if not prudent in their moves so being late is better than being early imo. I also believe that one of the most important things we do is continue the Feds independence from the executive (or any other) branch.

I would love an honest good faith discussion on this, it's like my only hobby outside of youth sports coaching.

[steve dave]

would also like @Justwin 's take on it if he/she still posts. that poster knows (fed) ball imo, even if we disagree mostly.

[sonofdaxjones]

not sure why this is in the presidential race thread, especially given the administration's position on fed independence and that fact that the previous administration appointed this fed chief. NEVERTHELESS, I'm diving in.

Dax, do you believe the Fed operated poorly? Or did you post here beause you believe the executive branch should have a say in Fed decisions like Donald Trump does?

I personally believe the Fed/Jerome has navigated the last 5 years extraordinarily well. Our economy (objectively doing incredibly) is evidence of that. I do think they should have cut a bit earlier but they are nothing if not prudent in their moves so being late is better than being early imo. I also believe that one of the most important things we do is continue the Feds independence from the executive (or any other) branch.

I would love an honest good faith discussion on this, it's like my only hobby outside of youth sports coaching.

The price of lumber is plummeting, housing slow down is beyond here.

All indications are the manufacturing sector is in recession.

The tech sector is imploding in terms of job loss

Consumer numbers only appear up because the previous months were all revised down.

Transitory inflation now enters its 4th consecutive year. 

Per the Oracles recent investment in Ulta we can say the lipstick index is screaming. For uninformed dolts that means women are setting aside higher dollar purchases in clothes and accessories and buying cosmetics.

My post had literally nothing to do with Fed’s management and everything to do with their need to manage this gaslighting, SFB administration.

Now featuring price fixing


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[steve dave]

not sure why this is in the presidential race thread, especially given the administration's position on fed independence and that fact that the previous administration appointed this fed chief. NEVERTHELESS, I'm diving in.

Dax, do you believe the Fed operated poorly? Or did you post here beause you believe the executive branch should have a say in Fed decisions like Donald Trump does?

I personally believe the Fed/Jerome has navigated the last 5 years extraordinarily well. Our economy (objectively doing incredibly) is evidence of that. I do think they should have cut a bit earlier but they are nothing if not prudent in their moves so being late is better than being early imo. I also believe that one of the most important things we do is continue the Feds independence from the executive (or any other) branch.

I would love an honest good faith discussion on this, it's like my only hobby outside of youth sports coaching.

The price of lumber is plummeting, housing slow down is beyond here.

All indications are the manufacturing sector is in recession.

The tech sector is imploding in terms of job loss

Consumer numbers only appear up because the previous months were all revised down

Per the Oracles recent investment in Ulta we can say the lipstick index is screaming. For uninformed dolts that means women are setting aside higher dollar purchases in clothes and accessories and buying cosmetics.

My post had literally nothing to do with Fed’s management and everything to do with their need to manage this gaslighting, SFB administration.

Now featuring price fixing


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your post about "losses at the Federal Reserve" has zero to do with the Fed management? I'm not 100% certain you know the "why" of what you posted at all Dax.

[sonofdaxjones]

I am as well. I can spot an unprecedented time in the feds history from miles away.

Correction - the Fed showed loses 109 years ago.


As usual you didn’t touch anything else.




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[steve dave]

I am as well. I can spot an unprecedented time in the feds history from miles away.

As usual you didn’t touch anything else.




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dax, I asked you very simple "yes and no" questions which you ducked. if you want me to opine on your "price of lumber" etc. garbage I will say I'm very happy we are seeing disinflation and a cooling in the economy, which is exactly what the Fed has been trying to accomplish and the fact that the labor market is still at full employment but showing signs of strain is ALSO exactly what the Fed has been trying to accomplish holding rates so high for so long. They are extraordinarily prudent, even if I think they should have cut a bit sooner.

[sonofdaxjones]

The loses are not market losses they are cash losses. Of which they directly impact the US treasury. Who floats the Treasury, Steve?


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[steve dave]

The loses are not market losses they are cash losses. Of which they directly impact the US treasury. Who floats the Treasury, Steve?


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united states citizens via taxes for the most part. I think they have some other side hustles but it's you and I. money well spent imo. you may have chosen to navigate the last 5 years differently and I'd love to hear your ideas on how it could have been done better. I certainly can't come up with much, even in hindsight.

[sonofdaxjones]

The US government now spends $1.3 trillion a year on interest alone and growing.

Almost the entirety of the economic good times idiots try to take credit for relative to this administration is solely derived from government spending.

Again, my post doesn’t have much to do with Fed policy itself, they’re merely trying to float the bubble for as long as they can

For political purposes? Well that’s up to you.


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[steve dave]

not sure what's to answer there other than I don't believe the fed is operating at all for political purposes. that's the best thing about the fed!

[star seed 7]

would also like @Justwin 's take on it if he/she still posts. that poster knows (fed) ball imo, even if we disagree mostly.

Yes, wish they posted more even if it's just to correct me when I'm stupid.

[sonofdaxjones]

If you go back 5 years let’s recognize that #blueanon entities and coronabro favorites are almost solely responsible for the free money as a Fed loss situation that we’re dealing with now.

Had people like Gav and the Coach not been filling up skate parks with sand or setting up snitch nation.  Our country might not have needed the monetary policy that lead to this mess.


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