Unions

[Kat Kid]

https://twitter.com/thehousered/status/1576975188071043079?s=46&t=lMCXE4hTpA3F-ba9lOfo2Q

If this goes I’m not sure if organized labor really has the strength to carry on. It appears Supreme Court is really going to try to burn it all down.

[MakeItRain]

Most people that know me know that I am a union man and that I love organized labor.  One thing I get asked a fair amount is—“but what about this union, isn’t this bad?” Or “look at this guy, isn’t it mumped up that the union defended him?”

In reverse order, no I pretty much look at unions like lawyers everyone deserves due process, even murderers or whatever but the union can also make choices about what they say or if they say anything.

The answer to the first is related to my last point which is police unions are almost all bad from what I can tell by their spokespeople and they basically have zero solidarity with other unions so they can eff off.

UPS wont cross picket lines to deliver packages, but cops will arrest people to back up capital for fun just because they are cops.

So it is with not a single qualm that I come here to denounce the latest unionization drive that I have come across, RA’s.

https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1576985969634725888?s=46&t=DZpz_eoUqKjU-0uglHAEwQ

That’s right, the student cops from your dorm floor are unionizing. I am absolutely against it. Any right minded student should view RA’s with the disgust they deserve as cops and class traitors and rats. 

No solidarity for RAs!


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When trying to unionize, doesn't it help to have a discernable skill? RAs might be the most replaceable people on the planet. I'd also be interested to know what what perceived gap in workers rights there are with RAs at Barnard College.

[Justwin]

Most people that know me know that I am a union man and that I love organized labor.  One thing I get asked a fair amount is—“but what about this union, isn’t this bad?” Or “look at this guy, isn’t it mumped up that the union defended him?”

In reverse order, no I pretty much look at unions like lawyers everyone deserves due process, even murderers or whatever but the union can also make choices about what they say or if they say anything.

The answer to the first is related to my last point which is police unions are almost all bad from what I can tell by their spokespeople and they basically have zero solidarity with other unions so they can eff off.

UPS wont cross picket lines to deliver packages, but cops will arrest people to back up capital for fun just because they are cops.

So it is with not a single qualm that I come here to denounce the latest unionization drive that I have come across, RA’s.

https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1576985969634725888?s=46&t=DZpz_eoUqKjU-0uglHAEwQ

That’s right, the student cops from your dorm floor are unionizing. I am absolutely against it. Any right minded student should view RA’s with the disgust they deserve as cops and class traitors and rats. 

No solidarity for RAs!


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When trying to unionize, doesn't it help to have a discernable skill? RAs might be the most replaceable people on the planet. I'd also be interested to know what what perceived gap in workers rights there are with RAs at Barnard College.

A discernable skill like workers at Amazon warehouses?

[MakeItRain]

Most people that know me know that I am a union man and that I love organized labor.  One thing I get asked a fair amount is—“but what about this union, isn’t this bad?” Or “look at this guy, isn’t it mumped up that the union defended him?”

In reverse order, no I pretty much look at unions like lawyers everyone deserves due process, even murderers or whatever but the union can also make choices about what they say or if they say anything.

The answer to the first is related to my last point which is police unions are almost all bad from what I can tell by their spokespeople and they basically have zero solidarity with other unions so they can eff off.

UPS wont cross picket lines to deliver packages, but cops will arrest people to back up capital for fun just because they are cops.

So it is with not a single qualm that I come here to denounce the latest unionization drive that I have come across, RA’s.

https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1576985969634725888?s=46&t=DZpz_eoUqKjU-0uglHAEwQ

That’s right, the student cops from your dorm floor are unionizing. I am absolutely against it. Any right minded student should view RA’s with the disgust they deserve as cops and class traitors and rats. 

No solidarity for RAs!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

When trying to unionize, doesn't it help to have a discernable skill? RAs might be the most replaceable people on the planet. I'd also be interested to know what what perceived gap in workers rights there are with RAs at Barnard College.

A discernable skill like workers at Amazon warehouses?

I was waiting for this. There are a lot more people more capable of being an RA than there are people who can work in an Amazon warehouse. Shocking that you don't know that some warehouse jobs require certifications. I also notice you skipped right over that gap in workers rights piece. RAs don't have to wear diapers to ensure they are meeting mandated efficiency quotas.

[wetwillie]

I’d like to see a dumbass RA from Barnard operate a forklift or a reach truck.  I wish a [redacted] would.

[michigancat]

Most people that know me know that I am a union man and that I love organized labor.  One thing I get asked a fair amount is—“but what about this union, isn’t this bad?” Or “look at this guy, isn’t it mumped up that the union defended him?”

In reverse order, no I pretty much look at unions like lawyers everyone deserves due process, even murderers or whatever but the union can also make choices about what they say or if they say anything.

The answer to the first is related to my last point which is police unions are almost all bad from what I can tell by their spokespeople and they basically have zero solidarity with other unions so they can eff off.

UPS wont cross picket lines to deliver packages, but cops will arrest people to back up capital for fun just because they are cops.

So it is with not a single qualm that I come here to denounce the latest unionization drive that I have come across, RA’s.

https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1576985969634725888?s=46&t=DZpz_eoUqKjU-0uglHAEwQ

That’s right, the student cops from your dorm floor are unionizing. I am absolutely against it. Any right minded student should view RA’s with the disgust they deserve as cops and class traitors and rats. 

No solidarity for RAs!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

When trying to unionize, doesn't it help to have a discernable skill? RAs might be the most replaceable people on the planet. I'd also be interested to know what what perceived gap in workers rights there are with RAs at Barnard College.

A discernable skill like workers at Amazon warehouses?

I was waiting for this. There are a lot more people more capable of being an RA than there are people who can work in an Amazon warehouse. Shocking that you don't know that some warehouse jobs require certifications. I also notice you skipped right over that gap in workers rights piece. RAs don't have to wear diapers to ensure they are meeting mandated efficiency quotas.

I think if you don't have a "redeemable skill" it helps to do particularly taxing/stressful/dangerous work.

[Kat Kid]

Most people that know me know that I am a union man and that I love organized labor.  One thing I get asked a fair amount is—“but what about this union, isn’t this bad?” Or “look at this guy, isn’t it mumped up that the union defended him?”

In reverse order, no I pretty much look at unions like lawyers everyone deserves due process, even murderers or whatever but the union can also make choices about what they say or if they say anything.

The answer to the first is related to my last point which is police unions are almost all bad from what I can tell by their spokespeople and they basically have zero solidarity with other unions so they can eff off.

UPS wont cross picket lines to deliver packages, but cops will arrest people to back up capital for fun just because they are cops.

So it is with not a single qualm that I come here to denounce the latest unionization drive that I have come across, RA’s.

https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1576985969634725888?s=46&t=DZpz_eoUqKjU-0uglHAEwQ

That’s right, the student cops from your dorm floor are unionizing. I am absolutely against it. Any right minded student should view RA’s with the disgust they deserve as cops and class traitors and rats. 

No solidarity for RAs!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

When trying to unionize, doesn't it help to have a discernable skill? RAs might be the most replaceable people on the planet. I'd also be interested to know what what perceived gap in workers rights there are with RAs at Barnard College.

A discernable skill like workers at Amazon warehouses?

The ability to reliably perform hard, manual work is a skill.

But yeah also go watch those YouTube’s of forklift drivers lighting lighters.

[sys]

i don't understand the claimed connection between work requiring a scarce skill and that work being suitable to be performed by union labor.

[star seed 7]

Forklifts really aren't that hard to operate, I assume some ra dorm nerd has played video games and driven a car before. The skills translate.

[wetwillie]

You son of a bitch

[Trim]

lopakman tried, failed.

[MakeItRain]

i don't understand the claimed connection between work requiring a scarce skill and that work being suitable to be performed by union labor.

no idea, you tell me. Is it a coincidence that industries with organized labor tend to be those with either a defined skill set and or professions that generally have more jobs than an available workforce?

I legit don't know enough about the history of labor to be able to provide an answer, it was an observation, not a statement of fact.

[CNS]

i don't understand the claimed connection between work requiring a scarce skill and that work being suitable to be performed by union labor.

no idea, you tell me. Is it a coincidence that industries with organized labor tend to be those with either a defined skill set and or professions that generally have more jobs than an available workforce?

I legit don't know enough about the history of labor to be able to provide an answer, it was an observation, not a statement of fact.

Unions and guilds used to be the ones passing that knowledge down.  People joined them to learn those skills.  Still to this day, many if not most, labor unions have defined and required training it's members have to complete to become full members.

[Justwin]

i don't understand the claimed connection between work requiring a scarce skill and that work being suitable to be performed by union labor.

no idea, you tell me. Is it a coincidence that industries with organized labor tend to be those with either a defined skill set and or professions that generally have more jobs than an available workforce?

I legit don't know enough about the history of labor to be able to provide an answer, it was an observation, not a statement of fact.

Unions and guilds used to be the ones passing that knowledge down.  People joined them to learn those skills.  Still to this day, many if not most, labor unions have defined and required training it's members have to complete to become full members.

I would agree that many unions today function very much as guilds. The story above about no new apprenticeships for elevator workers is pretty ridiculous, in my opinion. That union is functioning to keep people out of a trade as much as it is working to negotiate with employers.

Workers like Amazon warehouse workers, who I would still argue are pretty low-skilled, are the ones that would benefit from union representation more. They have a more inelastic supply of labor and are more easily exploited and mistreated by employers.

[catastrophe]

Yeah I’m sure unions have a pretty non-linear history but I always think of the industrial revolution when it was a way to prevent exploitation of cheap labor, which was “unskilled” in the sense that they typically didn’t have other job opportunities.

In that sense, Amazon workers unionizing seems like a much clearer parallel than some of the other unions currently in existence.

[MakeItRain]

Most people that know me know that I am a union man and that I love organized labor.  One thing I get asked a fair amount is—“but what about this union, isn’t this bad?” Or “look at this guy, isn’t it mumped up that the union defended him?”

In reverse order, no I pretty much look at unions like lawyers everyone deserves due process, even murderers or whatever but the union can also make choices about what they say or if they say anything.

The answer to the first is related to my last point which is police unions are almost all bad from what I can tell by their spokespeople and they basically have zero solidarity with other unions so they can eff off.

UPS wont cross picket lines to deliver packages, but cops will arrest people to back up capital for fun just because they are cops.

So it is with not a single qualm that I come here to denounce the latest unionization drive that I have come across, RA’s.

https://twitter.com/laurenkgurley/status/1576985969634725888?s=46&t=DZpz_eoUqKjU-0uglHAEwQ

That’s right, the student cops from your dorm floor are unionizing. I am absolutely against it. Any right minded student should view RA’s with the disgust they deserve as cops and class traitors and rats. 

No solidarity for RAs!


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my wife brought up a point, do these motherfuckers even draw a salary?

[Kat Kid]

https://twitter.com/byheatherlong/status/1578367926687891456?s=46&t=WcdYtz6g7lwGOE6XINMngQ

Anyone going to make a case blaming teachers unions for this?

One thing I will say is I think all of this gets much worse before it gets better as the right is looking at COVID, gays and ESSSR funds and smelling blood. Like the orc guy in LOTR- Education is back on the menu boys!

[wetwillie]

Teachers numbers just got right sized, no need to fill the 300k open positions

[star seed 7]

Assuming this is the forklift thread

https://twitter.com/LauraKellyKS/status/1580966800644542465

[michigancat]

Assuming this is the forklift thread

https://twitter.com/LauraKellyKS/status/1580966800644542465

not in Kansas lol

[Skipper44]

Assuming this is the forklift thread

https://twitter.com/LauraKellyKS/status/1580966800644542465

not in Kansas lol

it is in Kansas but that is not a forklift

[star seed 7]

Assuming this is the forklift thread

https://twitter.com/LauraKellyKS/status/1580966800644542465

not in Kansas lol

it is in Kansas but that is not a forklift

Embarrassingly low skid steer iq (lssiq) from skipper here lmao

[Skipper44]

Assuming this is the forklift thread

https://twitter.com/LauraKellyKS/status/1580966800644542465

not in Kansas lol

it is in Kansas but that is not a forklift

Embarrassingly low skid steer iq (lssiq) from skipper here lmao

ssl =/= flt

[michigancat]

Assuming this is the forklift thread

https://twitter.com/LauraKellyKS/status/1580966800644542465

not in Kansas lol

it is in Kansas but that is not a forklift

I wasn't clear, I was trying to say it wouldn't belong in the union thread because she was in Kansas

[MakeItRain]

Dipshit dems, the supposed party of labor, made these people end their strike without giving them a single day of sick pay. Not only did they force these people to take a deal that they didn't want, but they also allowed six prominent republicans to vote yes on the provision while one of their supposed their own, voted no.

Total crap show and they let Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Little Marco, and Fancy Lindsay mush their faces.