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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #550 on: May 04, 2021, 08:10:43 PM »
Mine is Ben Sasse


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That's nice, I don't know much about Sasse besides what I occasionally read in the thread on this board.

I would say I kind of liked Doug Jones, albeit he would occasionally remind that he was still a huge dipshit Lib at heart.  But I'd take him back over Tuberville in a second.






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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #551 on: May 04, 2021, 08:11:59 PM »
They all suck (but don't you dare say anything bad about trump)

LMFAO
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« Reply #552 on: May 04, 2021, 08:56:45 PM »
Just admit that you were part of the meltdown about everything 24/7/365 ProgFascist/Blueanon crowd and completely lost your mind from Nov 2016 to January 2021.   Believing every conspiracy no matter how insane. 

You and your party saddled up to the Liz Cheney's of the world because OrangeMan Bad.  Sad

Now you sit glued to networks that have more former defense-intelligence complex people working for them then Fox could ever dream of.

Sad . . . again.




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« Reply #553 on: May 05, 2021, 12:11:21 AM »
I will admit that I lost my mind from November 2020 to January 8, 2021, as it never occurred to me that a sitting U.S. President would openly (and brazenly) accuse the several states of participating in a coordinated voting fraud campaign designed to overturn the election and therefore cast doubt on the integrity of our entire system of government (the returns on that will be slowly coming in over the next 5-10 years). Before that, I was often accused of being a Trump apologist whenever I would tell people to cool their jets because Trump can't do nearly as much damage as the proto-blueanons then feared.

These days, I'm mostly a fan of any Republicans who don't carry Trump's water, because he represents the ultimate death of either our standing in the world, the GOP, or both, regardless of whether his staunchest grand old partiers can see/understand it. I want the GOP to be strong so that one party doesn't just impose its will unchecked by cogent counterarguments. Trump makes it difficult for that to happen, or at least some of us have the misfortune of so foreseeing.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #554 on: May 05, 2021, 06:04:00 AM »
Gop is dead

When Romney and Cheney are getting run but no one says a word about gaetz?

 it’s over


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #555 on: May 05, 2021, 06:41:29 AM »
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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #556 on: May 05, 2021, 08:31:04 AM »
These days, I'm mostly a fan of any Republicans who don't carry Trump's water, because he represents the ultimate death of either our standing in the world, the GOP, or both, regardless of whether his staunchest grand old partiers can see/understand it. I want the GOP to be strong so that one party doesn't just impose its will unchecked by cogent counterarguments. Trump makes it difficult for that to happen, or at least some of us have the misfortune of so foreseeing.

hell yeah

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« Reply #557 on: May 05, 2021, 08:33:50 AM »
I will admit that I lost my mind from November 2020 to January 8, 2021, as it never occurred to me that a sitting U.S. President would openly (and brazenly) accuse the several states of participating in a coordinated voting fraud campaign designed to overturn the election and therefore cast doubt on the integrity of our entire system of government (the returns on that will be slowly coming in over the next 5-10 years). Before that, I was often accused of being a Trump apologist whenever I would tell people to cool their jets because Trump can't do nearly as much damage as the proto-blueanons then feared.

These days, I'm mostly a fan of any Republicans who don't carry Trump's water, because he represents the ultimate death of either our standing in the world, the GOP, or both, regardless of whether his staunchest grand old partiers can see/understand it. I want the GOP to be strong so that one party doesn't just impose its will unchecked by cogent counterarguments. Trump makes it difficult for that to happen, or at least some of us have the misfortune of so foreseeing.

There will always be a second option. We need the GOP to become so weak that the resulting enormous democratic party splits in two.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #558 on: May 05, 2021, 08:37:11 AM »
Gop is dead

When Romney and Cheney are getting run but no one says a word about gaetz?

 it’s over


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #559 on: May 05, 2021, 08:47:58 AM »
Gop is dead

When Romney and Cheney are getting run but no one says a word about gaetz?

 it’s over


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Par for the course

D's are going to lose the House in 22 due to gerrymandering/lost seats.  Who knows on the senate.  We're set up for a long stretch of minority/oligarchy rule and the only hope is that the suburbs can kick out some of these clowns after the trump dust has settled.  But I'm not convinced.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #560 on: May 05, 2021, 08:55:45 AM »
accuse the several states of participating in a coordinated voting fraud campaign designed to overturn the election and therefore cast doubt on the integrity of our entire system of government (the returns on that will be slowly coming in over the next 5-10 years).

What's happening in Arizona is disturbing. I worry that this will be the norm for more and more pubs and that efforts like it will get even crazier.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #561 on: May 05, 2021, 09:39:46 AM »
These days, I'm mostly a fan of any Republicans who don't carry Trump's water, because he represents the ultimate death of either our standing in the world, the GOP, or both, regardless of whether his staunchest grand old partiers can see/understand it. I want the GOP to be strong so that one party doesn't just impose its will unchecked by cogent counterarguments. Trump makes it difficult for that to happen, or at least some of us have the misfortune of so foreseeing.

hell yeah

Yeah, this is my bag. 

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« Reply #562 on: May 05, 2021, 10:29:38 AM »
Again, it's absolutely hilarious to watch ProgFascist Media carry Liz Cheney's water in light of events and reactions that were not that long ago relative to another member of the Cheney family and that whole junta.

Any port in any storm:  ProgFascists

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #563 on: May 05, 2021, 10:42:02 AM »
Liz Cheney definitely sucks for lots of reasons but you have to be a pretty big dumbass to blame her for anything her father did. Imagine even having a thought process like that?
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« Reply #564 on: May 05, 2021, 10:54:33 AM »
Liz Cheney definitely sucks for lots of reasons but you have to be a pretty big dumbass to blame her for anything her father did. Imagine even having a thought process like that?

I mean....trumpers thought process isn't very deep.  It's just angry and scared farts

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #565 on: May 05, 2021, 12:25:50 PM »
We haven’t moved right!!!


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #566 on: May 05, 2021, 01:52:32 PM »
Gop is dead

When Romney and Cheney are getting run but no one says a word about gaetz?

 it’s over


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D's are going to lose the House in 22 due to gerrymandering/lost seats. 

Not if HR1 passes.

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« Reply #567 on: May 05, 2021, 04:03:34 PM »
I don't see much momentum for HR1 :dunno:, saw something that the John Lewis named one was more likely but my understanding is that one doesn't touch redistricting which is the high leverage point of ensuring a majority rule institution by design is closer to that in practice (even tho just urban partisan sorting + winner take all single districts really does a good portion of the work already in making it less representative of the majority of voters).

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« Reply #568 on: May 05, 2021, 06:54:11 PM »
Not if HR1 passes.

i don't think it would have a significant impact.
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« Reply #569 on: May 05, 2021, 09:02:09 PM »
Not if HR1 passes.

i don't think it would have a significant impact.

Do you think states would ignore the law? The proposed changes are significant. The proposed changes are essentially what's called the Iowa Model and it works perfectly here.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/five-ways-hr-1-would-transform-redistricting

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« Reply #570 on: May 05, 2021, 09:40:20 PM »
redistricting is by far the most meaningful change in the bill, but i don't think it'd be likely to result in a change in who wins the house in 2022.  i haven't seen an estimate for how it would change the likely partisan split, though, so i could be wrong.
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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #571 on: May 07, 2021, 04:21:14 PM »
I think we can close this thread down. 

There is and will be no post-Trump GOP.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #572 on: May 07, 2021, 04:56:37 PM »
Trump's not going to stop terrorizing the GOP until the 2020 election is overturned.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #573 on: May 07, 2021, 07:47:44 PM »
I think we can close this thread down. 

There is and will be no post-Trump GOP.

I mean someone is going to try and probs succeed to out trump him at some point

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #574 on: May 08, 2021, 10:17:02 AM »
I think we can close this thread down. 

There is and will be no post-Trump GOP.

I mean someone is going to try and probs succeed to out trump him at some point

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