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Title: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on October 09, 2020, 07:01:10 PM
seems as good a starting point as any.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on October 09, 2020, 07:46:14 PM
Save us Ben, you're our only hope
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 03:54:56 PM
i hope senator grassley survives the coming strife.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on October 13, 2020, 03:57:34 PM
missed opportunity to go 4-4-4-4-4. Easier to remember
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on October 13, 2020, 06:17:47 PM
missed opportunity to go 4-4-4-4-4. Easier to remember

that's why old man grassley is still just a senator.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on October 16, 2020, 04:46:53 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 16, 2020, 04:48:51 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 16, 2020, 04:55:01 PM

That's not even news.  I would be surprised if they didn't endorse Q
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 16, 2020, 04:57:25 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on October 16, 2020, 07:24:24 PM
Not surprising unfortunately


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Brock Landers on October 16, 2020, 07:46:48 PM
They're the common clay of the new West.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on November 28, 2020, 07:00:17 PM
"the demand for lies exceeds supply" is about the best summation of what seems to me to be the driving force in current republican politics that i've seen.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Phil Titola on November 28, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
Political parties aren't some sort of moral barometers for the country. They are there to make money. Got people that will fork it over? Take advantage.

See churches and NRA.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on November 28, 2020, 08:26:23 PM
BEN PLEASE
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 12, 2020, 03:25:03 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2020, 03:32:00 PM

TBF, the republicans attempt to move to populism got tied to nationalism so that made it an untenable position. The dems   :dunno: ultimately nothing will change. Eventually the nationalist wing of the republicans will lose steam and interest, and the progressives will continue to spin their wheels within the democratic party. The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 12, 2020, 03:57:11 PM
The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:

the non-"establishment" wings of each party are (at best) somewhere between actual idiots and dangerously ignorant, so yes, that would be the best option, although i think the republicans are too far gone.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 12, 2020, 03:58:20 PM
i'm not rooting for these people and i don't think you should either.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on December 12, 2020, 04:03:55 PM
I have been pronouncing maga right!
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 12, 2020, 04:16:40 PM
 :buh-bye:
I have been pronouncing maga right!

Never would have guessed it. I was definitely a Maguh  guy. What he said sounds like muhguh
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2020, 05:06:27 PM
The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:

the non-"establishment" wings of each party are (at best) somewhere between actual idiots and dangerously ignorant, so yes, that would be the best option, although i think the republicans are too far gone.

Ignorant idiots, how dare anyone challenge the status quo, it seems to be working out so well. Congratulations, sys.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: kim carnes on December 12, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:

the non-"establishment" wings of each party are (at best) somewhere between actual idiots and dangerously ignorant, so yes, that would be the best option, although i think the republicans are too far gone.

Ignorant idiots, how dare anyone challenge the status quo, it seems to be working out so well. Congratulations, sys.

The fact that you think it’s working out so terribly is quite ignorant.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on December 12, 2020, 09:02:39 PM
:buh-bye:
I have been pronouncing maga right!

Never would have guessed it. I was definitely a Maguh  guy. What he said sounds like muhguh

same, very disappointing
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on December 12, 2020, 09:29:09 PM
:buh-bye:
I have been pronouncing maga right!

Never would have guessed it. I was definitely a Maguh  guy. What he said sounds like muhguh

same, very disappointing

I hear MAH-guh, which matches what I've always thought and said in my head.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on December 12, 2020, 09:31:50 PM
mine has always been MA (like MAn) and GA (like GUm)

I obviously can't do the sounds and explainers for crap but hopefully that makes sense
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 12, 2020, 10:14:58 PM
 :ksu:
mine has always been MA (like MAn) and GA (like GUm)

I obviously can't do the sounds and explainers for crap but hopefully that makes sense

Yes this is what I always thought. Apparently it’s ma like ma and pa. I’m still kind of in disbelief. Maybe it’s regional like how some places say soda and other places say pop?  :dunno:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on December 12, 2020, 10:45:32 PM
There wasn’t a way I could be more disgusted by a group of people...I thought


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2020, 12:38:54 AM
The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:

the non-"establishment" wings of each party are (at best) somewhere between actual idiots and dangerously ignorant, so yes, that would be the best option, although i think the republicans are too far gone.

Ignorant idiots, how dare anyone challenge the status quo, it seems to be working out so well. Congratulations, sys.

The fact that you think it’s working out so terribly is quite ignorant.

 :ROFL: do you know what the word ignorant means? Seriously?

Pro tip, regardless of how you feel about the direction of the country, if you're going to call someone ignorant it looks really stupid when you misapply the word.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 13, 2020, 05:33:03 AM
The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:

the non-"establishment" wings of each party are (at best) somewhere between actual idiots and dangerously ignorant, so yes, that would be the best option, although i think the republicans are too far gone.

Ignorant idiots, how dare anyone challenge the status quo, it seems to be working out so well. Congratulations, sys.

The fact that you think it’s working out so terribly is quite ignorant.

 :ROFL: do you know what the word ignorant means? Seriously?

Pro tip, regardless of how you feel about the direction of the country, if you're going to call someone ignorant it looks really stupid when you misapply the word.

skinny benny post
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 13, 2020, 11:18:59 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 13, 2020, 11:35:40 PM
If anything had ever needed it’s thread, it’s this. I mean...  :ROFL:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on December 14, 2020, 10:59:24 AM
I like how "Bring Everyone" is followed by nobody else in the plane
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: LickNeckey on December 14, 2020, 11:57:29 AM
my fave is the like 80 year old "ANTIFA" guy
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: LickNeckey on December 14, 2020, 11:59:55 AM
also the fact tha ANTIFA apparently showed up to his LZ to meet him.

1 - doesn't this signal a failry significant breach - like how did ANTIFA find out where you were landing

2 - if ANTIFA had not been there why were you paratrooping solo into a remote field?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 14, 2020, 04:07:46 PM
I wonder how much more of this we will see (or not see)


Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Gooch on December 15, 2020, 08:46:30 AM
How many are retiring or not seeking reelection because it is wholly the Trump party now.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Cire on December 15, 2020, 08:56:58 AM
If you want money, you'll have to be a trumper.  They're going to siphon money out of the party and then quid pro quo for endorsements from the fam.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on December 15, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
If you want money, you'll have to be a trumper.  They're going to siphon money out of the party and then quid pro quo for endorsements from the fam.

Read an article about smaller monied donations, grassroots funding, and that seems to be the case (Trumpworld is going to leverage their fundraising base into power even without official power in gov't). However, it's still only a slice of the pie.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 17, 2020, 04:50:53 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on December 17, 2020, 04:52:24 PM
If he was really a freedom guy he would own it and support legalizing sex work
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Brock Landers on December 17, 2020, 05:23:55 PM
Will Trump's influence on the GOP really last that long?  Until 2024?  The world is going to move on and the further out it gets from Inauguration Day he'll just gradually diminish and become an even bigger sad joke.  His followers might be full of piss and vinegar for maybe a year tops but at some point they'll run out of attention span/patience/money.  Am I wrong? (yeah probably)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on December 17, 2020, 05:28:44 PM
If he runs, I'd be more surprised at this point if he didn't win the Republican primary than if he did.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 17, 2020, 05:47:56 PM
NewsMax and OAN will keep Trump at the front of his followers.  The only way he doesn't run is because of his personal health.  Yes Biden ran at the same age Trump would be in 4 yrs, but Trump is way fatter and gross so another 4 years could be major physical slip for the guy. 
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 17, 2020, 06:41:33 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: wetwillie on December 17, 2020, 06:51:18 PM
NewsMax and OAN will keep Trump at the front of his followers.  The only way he doesn't run is because of his personal health.  Yes Biden ran at the same age Trump would be in 4 yrs, but Trump is way fatter and gross so another 4 years could be major physical slip for the guy. 

Honestly trump winning non consecutive terms would be about as ‘Murica as it gets
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: kim carnes on December 17, 2020, 07:08:39 PM
The establishment of both parties have incentives for colluding to maintain the status quo. Change gets gridlocked and republicans and suburban democrats get to stay comfortable. Win win, right :excited:

the non-"establishment" wings of each party are (at best) somewhere between actual idiots and dangerously ignorant, so yes, that would be the best option, although i think the republicans are too far gone.

Ignorant idiots, how dare anyone challenge the status quo, it seems to be working out so well. Congratulations, sys.

The fact that you think it’s working out so terribly is quite ignorant.

 :ROFL: do you know what the word ignorant means? Seriously?

Pro tip, regardless of how you feel about the direction of the country, if you're going to call someone ignorant it looks really stupid when you misapply the word.

You are the definition.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on December 17, 2020, 09:59:58 PM

Some of these replies are modern art


Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on December 24, 2020, 06:54:13 AM
freshman gop rep from ohio not placing his bet on the gop staying trump4eva

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on December 24, 2020, 08:02:30 AM
Or just not comfortable with flat out lies.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on December 24, 2020, 08:36:49 AM
NewsMax and OAN will keep Trump at the front of his followers.  The only way he doesn't run is because of his personal health.  Yes Biden ran at the same age Trump would be in 4 yrs, but Trump is way fatter and gross so another 4 years could be major physical slip for the guy. 

Honestly trump winning non consecutive terms would be about as ‘Murica as it gets

I would imagine that he gets comfortable in his role out of the work but still in the spotlight that he won't run.  He'll toy with it for 3.5 years though.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on December 24, 2020, 11:14:53 AM
Anthony Gonzalez constantly gets me horned up. It won't be long before he gets washingtonized though, AOC is already moving down that road.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 02:21:38 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2021, 07:55:27 AM
I feel like the GA results are just going to cause each side to dig in deeper. Non-MAGA pubs will be way more convinced that MAGA is a bad direction for the party. On the other hand, Trump and MAGAs will just get madder and more determined not to give up because that's esentially who they are and what they do.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Gooch on January 06, 2021, 08:23:59 AM
As the late great Dr. Serizawa said in Godzilla. "Let them fight."
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 06, 2021, 08:43:13 AM
"Qtah" is a pretty great username
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 06, 2021, 08:48:01 AM
I feel like the GA results are just going to cause each side to dig in deeper. Non-MAGA pubs will be way more convinced that MAGA is a bad direction for the party. On the other hand, Trump and MAGAs will just get madder and more determined not to give up because that's esentially who they are and what they do.

And this is what will ultimately destroy the Republican party.  MAGA is even attacking Lindsey Graham after he said "challenging with zero proof is a political dodge versus fighting for Trump".  As MAGA digs deeper, non-MAGA Pubs will step away.  If the Loefflers of the world continue to get nominated as the party candidates, Democrats will continue to win.  Lindsey knows this as he received a huge wakeup call in his election. 

MAGA did not help their case with all the antics post election.  The self-inflicted blue wave might be around for a while.  I don't love it, but prefer over MAGA wave.   
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 09:02:45 AM
I feel like the GA results are just going to cause each side to dig in deeper. Non-MAGA pubs will be way more convinced that MAGA is a bad direction for the party. On the other hand, Drumpf and MAGAs will just get madder and more determined not to give up because that's esentially who they are and what they do.

And this is what will ultimately destroy the Republican party.  MAGA is even attacking Lindsey Graham after he said "challenging with zero proof is a political dodge versus fighting for Drumpf".  As MAGA digs deeper, non-MAGA Pubs will step away.  If the Loefflers of the world continue to get nominated as the party candidates, Democrats will continue to win.  Lindsey knows this as he received a huge wakeup call in his election. 

MAGA did not help their case with all the antics post election.  The self-inflicted blue wave might be around for a while.  I don't love it, but prefer over MAGA wave.   

They MAGAs will continue to hitch themselves to a practically once in a generation confluence of factors that brought in trump. They seem to think (wrongly of course) they are the majority, when in 2016, especially looking back, enough people just took the gamble on trump just to say eff it let's see what happens. We have seen what happens, and anyone with sense jumped shipped and left the red hot core of magas by themselves.

I agree if the pubs continue to tolerate it (why not, it's practically them now) it'll destroy them. They are a group that doesn't add people it sheds it, and you can't win by constantly shrinking your pool of voters day over day, year after year. That being said, we'll see what 2022 brings, I am curious how quickly they pivot from trump happens 1/21/21. The more they dig in, the more they will suffer. They might be successful in moving away, but that's going to be a tough trick to do, but most magas are pretty stupid so it's possible.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: kim carnes on January 06, 2021, 09:04:01 AM
The Republican Party needs trump to be imprisoned.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2021, 09:06:29 AM
I think a lot of magas never voted before Trump ran and they will likely go back to not voting.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 06, 2021, 09:11:25 AM
I don't know how big of a shift we see on 1/21 from the Republicans.  The loudest voice to their base will continue to be Donald Trump and he isn't going leave the spotlight anytime soon.  Deep red states will continue to embrace him but he certainly will be damaging to moderates.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 06, 2021, 09:15:30 AM
he certainly will be damaging to moderates.

Much less certain after yesterday.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: kim carnes on January 06, 2021, 09:59:28 AM
I think a lot of magas never voted before Trump ran and they will likely go back to not voting.

Maybe, but he also motivated people to vote against him.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2021, 10:11:47 AM
I think a lot of magas never voted before Trump ran and they will likely go back to not voting.

Maybe, but he also motivated people to vote against him.

yes
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 06, 2021, 10:22:20 AM
If there’s one thing the totality of the last election told us is that there’s very little concern with multiple outcomes in the ProgLib camp.  The speaker needed every Rona super spreader to show up in person to scratch out keeping her GinOxy laden brain and hand shakingly latched to the gavel. 

Now she’s passing out a few committee crumbs to keep the far left lunatics placated and enraged at MAGA. 

Meanwhile ChiCom is firmly planting the kind of West Wing inhabitants that Kstreet, WalL Street, Big Pharma, Big Tech, perpetual war lovers and China know and love. 


But BidenVoter doesn’t understand nor does BidenVoter care.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on January 06, 2021, 10:51:14 AM
he certainly will be damaging to moderates.

Much less certain after yesterday.

Kind of an interesting take re mods and republicans. (Lee v much doesn't like the direction of our two party system)
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 10:53:16 AM
LOL that answers that.  They will keep blasting their own balls into outer space until their generation dies out.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 06, 2021, 11:05:26 AM
Against regime change and perpetual war equals far right. (BidenVoter sayings 2021)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 11:07:33 AM
Against regime change and perpetual war equals far right. (BidenVoter sayings 2021)

dang, magas won't stop even down 4 touchdowns after the gun sounds.  This is amaze
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 06, 2021, 11:41:49 AM
Slow Dug not even close: BAU
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
Slow Dug not even close: BAU

 Enraged
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MadCat on January 06, 2021, 11:56:03 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 06, 2021, 12:30:05 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 12:35:41 PM
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 12:44:26 PM
Mitch's pivot started now
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Brock Landers on January 06, 2021, 12:45:43 PM
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"

The older I get, the less I think of Shooter McGavin as a bad guy   :blindfold:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2021, 12:46:19 PM
Mitch's pivot started now

Just caught that waiting for lunch. He went pretty hard at maqa
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2021, 01:06:02 PM
It will be interesting to see if the GOP makes someone else minority leader after that speech.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 06, 2021, 01:12:33 PM
It will be interesting to see if the GOP makes someone else minority leader after that speech.
I don’t think he would have done it if he thought there was any chance it would hurt him politically. He went along with Trump exactly as long as Trump was helping him out.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 06, 2021, 01:14:11 PM
It will be interesting to see if the GOP makes someone else minority leader after that speech.
I don’t think he would have done it if he thought there was any chance it would hurt him politically. He went along with Trump exactly as long as Trump was helping him out.

He wouldn't have denied the $2000 checks if he didn't think the repulicans would hold the senate without them, either.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 01:24:20 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 01:29:34 PM
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"

The older I get, the less I think of Shooter McGavin as a bad guy   :blindfold:

Meh, to be fair, other than trying to get Happy to be run over by that one guy, his biggest crime was being jealous of Happy and not being able to win that gold jacket after putting in all the time and effort to get there. He felt like he earned it, I suspect many people in that position would feel that way too, regardless of profession.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 01:33:34 PM
interesting choice.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 04:48:39 PM
i don't know the answer to this one.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 06, 2021, 04:50:56 PM
Two parties might be the most stable version, but it’s not like we’re required to only have two. The GOP is in a crisis and will likely have to morph into something else entirely.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2021, 04:52:27 PM
I’ve been calling for a GOP split on here for years. It’s a short term loss for long term gain thing. It has zero percent chance of happening but it should.


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Justwin on January 06, 2021, 04:55:28 PM
I’ve been calling for a GOP split on here for years. It’s a short term loss for long term gain thing. It has zero percent chance of happening but it should.


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What would your proposed split look like?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Chingon on January 06, 2021, 04:56:17 PM
It will always collapse back to two.

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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2021, 04:56:55 PM
i don't know the answer to this one.


lol, not a rough ridin' thing.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 05:00:15 PM
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"

The older I get, the less I think of Shooter McGavin as a bad guy   :blindfold:

Meh, to be fair, other than trying to get Happy to be run over by that one guy, his biggest crime was being jealous of Happy and not being able to win that gold jacket after putting in all the time and effort to get there. He felt like he earned it, I suspect many people in that position would feel that way too, regardless of profession.

Bought his grandma's house and also had him go to that green at night and happy got soaked
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 06, 2021, 05:14:52 PM
It will always collapse back to two.

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Yes, but there have pretty major transitions along the way before. We seem poised for another one pretty soon.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 06, 2021, 05:31:26 PM
I’ve been calling for a GOP split on here for years. It’s a short term loss for long term gain thing. It has zero percent chance of happening but it should.


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What would your proposed split look like?
MAGAs and Pubs obviously


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 05:34:42 PM
I’ve been calling for a GOP split on here for years. It’s a short term loss for long term gain thing. It has zero percent chance of happening but it should.


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What would your proposed split look like?
MAGAs and Pubs obviously


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Sane vs insane is the same thing
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 05:38:08 PM
fat v. fit
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 05:40:30 PM
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"

The older I get, the less I think of Shooter McGavin as a bad guy   :blindfold:

Meh, to be fair, other than trying to get Happy to be run over by that one guy, his biggest crime was being jealous of Happy and not being able to win that gold jacket after putting in all the time and effort to get there. He felt like he earned it, I suspect many people in that position would feel that way too, regardless of profession.

Bought his grandma's house and also had him go to that green at night and happy got soaked

I said his worst crime, not all of them
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 05:41:40 PM
He was this close to telling them "look dumbasses, I don't want to have lost this election either but we did, now go back to your shanties, your opinions don't equal crap"

The older I get, the less I think of Shooter McGavin as a bad guy   :blindfold:

Meh, to be fair, other than trying to get Happy to be run over by that one guy, his biggest crime was being jealous of Happy and not being able to win that gold jacket after putting in all the time and effort to get there. He felt like he earned it, I suspect many people in that position would feel that way too, regardless of profession.

Bought his grandma's house and also had him go to that green at night and happy got soaked

I said his worst crime, not all of them

read too fast.  Yes, murder for hire was definitely his biggest crime
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on January 06, 2021, 06:34:36 PM
  :dunno:

the anti-democratic part tho, some legislation would be a good salve for that (portions of HR1)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 06, 2021, 07:09:28 PM
If there’s one thing the totality of the last election told us is that there’s very little concern with multiple outcomes in the ProgLib camp.  The speaker needed every Rona super spreader to show up in person to scratch out keeping her GinOxy laden brain and hand shakingly latched to the gavel. 

Now she’s passing out a few committee crumbs to keep the far left lunatics placated and enraged at MAGA. 

Meanwhile ChiCom is firmly planting the kind of West Wing inhabitants that Kstreet, WalL Street, Big Pharma, Big Tech, perpetual war lovers and China know and love. 


But BidenVoter doesn’t understand nor does BidenVoter care.

You are presumably a real person and I'm fascinated by it.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2021, 08:31:19 PM
Kelly Loeffler being decent
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FragrantBogusHoopoe-max-1mb.gif)

Josh Hawley continuing to be a dickbag
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f098fcbe6aa468c60cc4a57fda5164f6/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 06, 2021, 11:33:37 PM
Kelly Loeffler being decent
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FragrantBogusHoopoe-max-1mb.gif)

Josh Hawley continuing to be a dickbag
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f098fcbe6aa468c60cc4a57fda5164f6/tenor.gif)

Hawley made himself a national name today, and not a good one for non magas.

Loeffler I think knew the jig is up, her loss by far in that GA run off was the most sweetest. Stock dumping harlot
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2021, 12:30:28 AM
Kelly Loeffler being decent
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FragrantBogusHoopoe-max-1mb.gif)

Josh Hawley continuing to be a dickbag
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f098fcbe6aa468c60cc4a57fda5164f6/tenor.gif)

Hawley made himself a national name today, and not a good one for non magas.

Loeffler I think knew the jig is up, her loss by far in that GA run off was the most sweetest. Stock dumping harlot

I bet you every dollar I got that if he runs for Senate in 2024, he'll win.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2021, 01:21:26 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 07, 2021, 05:32:21 AM
Unfortunately Graham circled around perpetual war lover John " bomb everybody" McCain.   Who as we go back through the Rolodex of photographic history, could be found again and again yukking it up with some of the world's biggest and most blood thirsty thugs, from the Ukraine to Syria and points beyond.   Even mega corrupt ChiCom Joe Biden is jealous.

Only the dumbest of the dumb would consider John McCain "virtuous".
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 07, 2021, 08:42:01 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 08:45:24 AM
If they would just start this Civil War they keep talking about, most of them would die. 3 of them died from medical emergencies just walking up the capital stairs.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2021, 08:46:20 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 07, 2021, 08:47:31 AM

45% is pretty low for the MAGA party. This will divide them.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 07, 2021, 08:50:34 AM
The non-MAGA pub party could try to lure moderate dems by adopting a platform appealing to them.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 07, 2021, 08:51:49 AM
The vast majority of BidenVoters polled after 2016 thought the election was stolen from Mega Corrupt Hillary Clinton. Thus kicking off 4 years of destabilization and delegitimization at the behest of foreign entities.

I’m just disappointed we didn’t have someone replace Trump and win so we could watch Dems propose/write articles of impeachment for yet another Pub president.  It’s only been 5 straight.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 07, 2021, 08:52:54 AM
Did SD just become Sasse's moderate party chair?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2021, 08:53:44 AM
56% of voters thinking there was enough fraud to change the election outcome is almost more alarming.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 08:55:06 AM
Watching pilot fish dax try to distance himself from trump is going to be fun.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2021, 08:59:37 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.
I think your split predicto is pretty good.  I don't know how Republicans unify after this because I don't foresee MAGAs becoming more reasonable.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2021, 09:06:10 AM
Did SD just become Sasse's moderate party chair?

yes, that's right
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2021, 09:06:55 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.
I think your split predicto is pretty good.  I don't know how Republicans unify after this because I don't foresee MAGAs becoming more reasonable.

they'll work together because their policy positions are so close. It's how Trump became the face of the party - his policy positions have always been in line with mainstream republicans, he just presented them as a bombastic bad person. That won't change.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 07, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
If they would just start this Civil War they keep talking about, most of them would die. 3 of them died from medical emergencies just walking up the capital stairs.

Yeah, I originally wrote something like that in a post but edited out cause I didn't want to seem too on the nose of what I thought killed them but, having 3 people die from "medical emergencies" in any situation like this is insanely high IMO.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 07, 2021, 09:18:49 AM
Watching pilot fish dax try to distance himself from trump is going to be fun.
Another unoriginal post from the boards biggest weirdo.  BAU
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MadCat on January 07, 2021, 09:19:13 AM
RINOs and Retrumplicans
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Phil Titola on January 07, 2021, 09:20:10 AM
The vast majority of BidenVoters polled after 2016 thought the election was stolen from Mega Corrupt Hillary Clinton.


Wrong.  Let's not forget even when he won, Trump was the one who claimed fraud.

Quote
A new POLITICO/Morning Consult survey showed that 25 percent of registered voters say they agree with Trump that millions of people improperly cast ballots last November. But if the election was subject to voter fraud, 35 percent say it's more likely any improper votes benefited Trump, and 30 percent say they benefited Clinton.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/poll-donald-trump-voter-fraud-234458

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2021, 09:22:14 AM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 09:24:55 AM
Watching pilot fish dax try to distance himself from trump is going to be fun.
Another unoriginal post from the boards biggest weirdo.  BAU

pilot fish dax has moved on to eating someone else's poop.  just hovering around...never the apex
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2021, 09:27:19 AM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.

I don't think that's very fair
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 09:32:23 AM
If they would just start this Civil War they keep talking about, most of them would die. 3 of them died from medical emergencies just walking up the capital stairs.

Yeah, I originally wrote something like that in a post but edited out cause I didn't want to seem too on the nose of what I thought killed them but, having 3 people die from "medical emergencies" in any situation like this is insanely high IMO.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 09:36:47 AM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.

But surely they filed 60+ lawsuits and demanded that the VP decertify, right?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 07, 2021, 09:36:52 AM
If they would just start this Civil War they keep talking about, most of them would die. 3 of them died from medical emergencies just walking up the capital stairs.

Yeah, I originally wrote something like that in a post but edited out cause I didn't want to seem too on the nose of what I thought killed them but, having 3 people die from "medical emergencies" in any situation like this is insanely high IMO.


Holy crap. While I bet the actually situation what went down was more complicated goddamn.

But then again, this is a group of people trump got a lot of them to believe in hydrocloriquine (however it's spelled) and think about injecting bleach as an alternative a some died from that so, I mean it happens.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 07, 2021, 09:37:22 AM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.

I don't think that's very fair

more inaccurate than unfair, imo.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 09:38:39 AM
If they would just start this Civil War they keep talking about, most of them would die. 3 of them died from medical emergencies just walking up the capital stairs.

Yeah, I originally wrote something like that in a post but edited out cause I didn't want to seem too on the nose of what I thought killed them but, having 3 people die from "medical emergencies" in any situation like this is insanely high IMO.


Apex maga
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2021, 09:44:54 AM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.

I don't think that's very fair

more inaccurate than unfair, imo.

I agree but used "fair" because dq was trying "to be fair".

Maybe it was tongue in cheek, not sure.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Justwin on January 07, 2021, 09:45:45 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.

What's your party's platform on abortion?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2021, 09:51:45 AM
Yeah I could be wrong because I didn't follow it super closely.  I just recall a lot of people on the left pointing at Russia and referencing election interference, etc. 

Regardless, I agree that yesterday was far beyond whatever occurred post 2016.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 09:52:37 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.

What's your party's platform on abortion?

more conservative than democrats and therefore yours.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2021, 09:57:24 AM
Yeah I could be wrong because I didn't follow it super closely.  I just recall a lot of people on the left pointing at Russia and referencing election interference, etc. 

Regardless, I agree that yesterday was far beyond whatever occurred post 2016.

false equivalency level: mild
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 09:58:11 AM
Yeah I could be wrong because I didn't follow it super closely.  I just recall a lot of people on the left pointing at Russia and referencing election interference, etc. 

Regardless, I agree that yesterday was far beyond whatever occurred post 2016.

Yeah, the left was pointing at things that actually happened and asking president Trump to do something about them.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: bucket on January 07, 2021, 10:00:11 AM

45% is pretty low for the MAGA party. This will divide them.


Good thread supporting the GOP split.
Title: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2021, 10:01:30 AM
I also agree that the complaints being rooted in facts vs. complete fabrication is an important distinction between the 2016 and 2020 complaints.

Same with comparisons to BLM demonstrations.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Justwin on January 07, 2021, 10:02:36 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.

What's your party's platform on abortion?

more conservative than democrats and therefore yours.

Abstention is always an option.  If the new Pub platform is merely more conservative than Dems, the new Pub party is going to be a lot smaller than the 55% of Republicans that don't approve of the storming of the Capitol.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 10:10:07 AM
that's a nice clean way to split the party right there. 45% MAGA 55% Pub. We're going to lose an assload of elections for a decade but hopefully, eventually, we are the party of moderates. this is obviously all fan-fic, I realize.

What's your party's platform on abortion?

more conservative than democrats and therefore yours.

Abstention is always an option.  If the new Pub platform is merely more conservative than Dems, the new Pub party is going to be a lot smaller than the 55% of Republicans that don't approve of the storming of the Capitol.

no it's not.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2021, 10:12:00 AM
Most Republicans with a choice of pro life conservative terrorists and pro choice moderates will side with the terrorists
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2021, 10:17:04 AM
Most Republicans with a choice of pro life conservative terrorists and pro choice moderates will side with the terrorists
Only so long as the conservative terrorists killed fewer people than those lost in abortions.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 10:19:47 AM
Most Republicans with a choice of pro life conservative terrorists and pro choice moderates will side with the terrorists
Only so long as the conservative terrorists killed fewer people than those lost in abortions.

Yeah, the numbers don't matter at all. It's nothing more than an excuse to justify other awful beliefs and/or behavior.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 10:21:24 AM
Most Republicans with a choice of pro life conservative terrorists and pro choice moderates will side with the terrorists

hence the ass kicking they took in early November.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2021, 10:50:16 AM
here are some scenarios:

- figure out how to rehabilitate MAGAs. will require immediate losses to their ranks in primaries to more moderate conservatives while there is momentum and them eventually just fading away or they go back to not caring about politics.
- keep going down the road of moderate republicans holding their nose and aligning with/voting for MAGAs and ultimately just being MAGAs. there aren't a lot of brave conservatives in office as we've seen pretty clearly over the last four years.
- splitting the party now and, over the long term, building a party of moderates from current GOP and current Dem like minded people. this is my fan fic.

none of these are going to cleanly happen and whatever does will be a mix of them obviously.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 07, 2021, 10:55:49 AM
#3 sounds so dreamy.
Title: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2021, 10:59:20 AM
Yeah that’s a fun dream.

Like the party of: hey guys what if we didn’t spend a ton and ALSO didn’t hate gays and immigrants?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Gooch on January 07, 2021, 11:01:38 AM
The gop must condemn the MAGA/Q people within the party. Cut off all support and funding and also openly denounce them. They won't and will continue to play footsie with them because these are the people who vote in the primaries and they don't want to lose what power they still have.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 07, 2021, 11:01:51 AM
Like the party of: hey guys what if we didn’t spend a ton and ALSO didn’t hate gays and immigrants?

Add in some healthcare end environment stuff to accommodate moderate dems.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 11:10:14 AM
Yeah that’s a fun dream.

Like the party of: hey guys what if we didn’t spend a ton and ALSO didn’t hate gays and immigrants?

That party already exists. Just register democrat.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2021, 11:15:59 AM
#3 sounds so dreamy.

how do we kick out the magas who try to clog the toilet and vape up our place?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 11:18:55 AM
If all of the moderate republicans join the dems, then the progressive dems can form their own party immediately after the maga party dies.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2021, 11:22:39 AM
Yeah that’s a fun dream.

Like the party of: hey guys what if we didn’t spend a ton and ALSO didn’t hate gays and immigrants?

That party already exists. Just register democrat.
The Democrat spending hawks will fly the coop when they get back control of Congress.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 07, 2021, 11:24:46 AM
Yeah that’s a fun dream.

Like the party of: hey guys what if we didn’t spend a ton and ALSO didn’t hate gays and immigrants?

That party already exists. Just register democrat.
The Democrat spending hawks will fly the coop when they get back control of Congress.

They won't run the sort of deficits Trump did. At least when you compare post-COVID to pre-COVID, they won't.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 07, 2021, 11:24:49 AM
The vast majority of BidenVoters polled after 2016 thought the election was stolen from Mega Corrupt Hillary Clinton.


Wrong.  Let's not forget even when he won, Trump was the one who claimed fraud.

Quote
A new POLITICO/Morning Consult survey showed that 25 percent of registered voters say they agree with Trump that millions of people improperly cast ballots last November. But if the election was subject to voter fraud, 35 percent say it's more likely any improper votes benefited Trump, and 30 percent say they benefited Clinton.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/poll-donald-trump-voter-fraud-234458
I’ve posted the poll on this blog before, Phil. You just missed it.

The 4 years of destabilization and delegitimization stands for itself(ves).

Dems have in one form or fashion attempted to impeach the last 5 Pub presidents. 

Dems challenged the last 3 Pub wins in Congress. 
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 07, 2021, 11:26:50 AM
And I think everyone already recognizes this, but there’s a razor thin difference between a moderate dem and moderate Republican. Just so happens representatives of both are generally spineless enough to go along with however the rest of their party is voting.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Justwin on January 07, 2021, 11:33:03 AM
Yeah that’s a fun dream.

Like the party of: hey guys what if we didn’t spend a ton and ALSO didn’t hate gays and immigrants?

That party already exists. Just register democrat.
The Democrat spending hawks will fly the coop when they get back control of Congress.

They won't run the sort of deficits Trump did. At least when you compare post-COVID to pre-COVID, they won't.

Big difference between not spending a ton and not running big deficits.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 07, 2021, 11:39:13 AM
BUDGET HAWKS ARE BACK BABY!


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 07, 2021, 11:44:46 AM
It's only money!

We don't need a budget!

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.

I love you man, but your tenancy to both sides ever-y-thing as a reflex, is something.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 07, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
#3 sounds so dreamy.

how do we kick out the magas who try to clog the toilet and vape up our place?

Probably tough to kick out.  Better to start with a fresh house and not allow in.  Surely we can come up with a cooler name than republican or gop anyway.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: LickNeckey on January 07, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
It's only money!

We don't need a budget!

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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 07, 2021, 05:04:36 PM
to be fair there was a big drawn out thing about the 2016 election spearheaded by dems, iirc.  that said they didn't storm the capitol so good on them for that.

I love you man, but your tenancy to both sides ever-y-thing as a reflex, is something.
I'm not really both sidesing it.  I already pointed out that yesterday is far beyond the pale (for several reasons), which is already obvious.

I was just responding to this exchange:

The vast majority of BidenVoters polled after 2016 thought the election was stolen from Mega Corrupt Hillary Clinton.


Wrong.  Let's not forget even when he won, Trump was the one who claimed fraud.

Quote
A new POLITICO/Morning Consult survey showed that 25 percent of registered voters say they agree with Trump that millions of people improperly cast ballots last November. But if the election was subject to voter fraud, 35 percent say it's more likely any improper votes benefited Trump, and 30 percent say they benefited Clinton.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/poll-donald-trump-voter-fraud-234458
I recall plenty of gnashing about the 2016 election being illegitimate.  I'm just pointing out that cries of election illegitimacy aren't totally novel (regardless of their merit).

(fwiw i love you too)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 07, 2021, 05:17:53 PM
I'm sure a lot of people were saying a lot of things about 2016 that I was unaware of. I always thought objections were more like "Trump is unfit." 2020, on the other hand, is more like "Biden actually received fewer votes." The second is objectively false.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2021, 05:38:03 PM
I'm sure a lot of people were saying a lot of things about 2016 that I was unaware of. I always thought objections were more like "Trump is unfit." 2020, on the other hand, is more like "Biden actually received fewer votes." The second is objectively false.

Also, I think you can recognize that Russian interference was a thing that happened and should be addressed without thinking the results would have been different or overturned as a result
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 07, 2021, 06:23:44 PM
Also, I think you can recognize that Russian interference was a thing that happened and should be addressed without thinking the results would have been different or overturned as a result

yes.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 07, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
I'm sure a lot of people were saying a lot of things about 2016 that I was unaware of. I always thought objections were more like "Trump is unfit." 2020, on the other hand, is more like "Biden actually received fewer votes." The second is objectively false.

Exactly. Dlew, your comparison or analysis reads like both sidesing because it's the equivalent of someone comparing the safety of a kid's stuffed elephant and a loaded handgun because, as a comparison point, they both come in pink.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on January 08, 2021, 01:48:47 AM
They're losing this very important guy.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 08, 2021, 09:39:02 AM
I'm sure a lot of people were saying a lot of things about 2016 that I was unaware of. I always thought objections were more like "Trump is unfit." 2020, on the other hand, is more like "Biden actually received fewer votes." The second is objectively false.

Exactly. Dlew, your comparison or analysis reads like both sidesing because it's the equivalent of someone comparing the safety of a kid's stuffed elephant and a loaded handgun because, as a comparison point, they both come in pink.
I really didn't even mean it as a comparison.  I've said a few times now that there's really no comparison. 

I just read it as Phil saying that no one criticized the 2016 election as illegitimate, which made me think parts of the last 4 years were a fever dream.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 08, 2021, 06:30:05 PM
pretty different from the last poll on this.  some may be how the questions were worded, and some, no doubt is due to some of the consequences (5 deaths) becoming known, but i think it is probably mostly due to the condemnation by the media and by many republican electeds and conservative opinion influencers.  elite messaging matters.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 08, 2021, 06:57:30 PM
this gets also gets at whether dems have an interest in guiding the republican party back to sanity.  i think they do, but if you're farther to the left of me you very well might not.

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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2021, 07:24:07 PM
this gets also gets at whether dems have an interest in guiding the republican party back to sanity.  i think they do, but if you're farther to the left of me you very well might not.

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As a far lefty, I'm fine with this, but there's a greater chance I win the Powerball tomorrow then I get appointed into Biden's cabinet the day after my lottery win becomes public, and I don't buy lottery tickets, than this being incorporated in national elections while any of us are above ground.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2021, 07:26:13 PM
this gets also gets at whether dems have an interest in guiding the republican party back to sanity.  i think they do, but if you're farther to the left of me you very well might not.

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IMO a saner Republican party moves left so I'm all for it. Is the thought behind ranked choice is it makes it more difficult for extremists to win elections?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 08, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
I read this and tell myself that these are the same people who are perfectly fine with the majority of the leadership in their party joining with the Dick Cheney wing of politics and proposing a continuous stream of legislation to ensure that the United States stays in a state of perpetual war across the globe.

Particularly  :lol: :lol: that this is the same contingency of millions who just 12 years ago (and beyond) were calling for W and Cheney to be tried as war criminals.   

That's how insane the American Democratic party is today.



Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 08, 2021, 07:33:01 PM
Is the thought behind ranked choice is it makes it more difficult for extremists to win elections?

yeah, incentivizes candidates to appeal to the center rather than either pole.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 08, 2021, 07:33:56 PM
The same political faction who in my lifetime and really not that long ago took to the streets and every platform possible to rail against cenorship of any kind.   Now today they openly demand censorship and deplatforming of anything and anyone that is not in complete lockstep with their insane political dogma.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 08, 2021, 07:44:54 PM
Is the thought behind ranked choice is it makes it more difficult for extremists to win elections?

yeah, incentivizes candidates to appeal to the center rather than either pole.
Let’s do it!


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 08, 2021, 11:34:40 PM
I like it
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on January 09, 2021, 02:14:26 AM
The same political faction who in my lifetime and really not that long ago took to the streets and every platform possible to rail against cenorship of any kind.   Now today they openly demand censorship and deplatforming of anything and anyone that is not in complete lockstep with their insane political dogma.
Doesn't that cover the entire history of political factions?  :D
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2021, 09:31:28 AM
The same political faction who in my lifetime and really not that long ago took to the streets and every platform possible to rail against cenorship of any kind.   Now today they openly demand censorship and deplatforming of anything and anyone that is not in complete lockstep with their insane political dogma.
Doesn't that cover the entire history of political factions?  :D
It’s cute when Waks attempts to be funny.

Endearing
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 09, 2021, 05:47:54 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2021, 07:14:01 PM
Jesus Christ


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 09, 2021, 07:14:34 PM
I’ve mentioned AS before but that is a hardcore MAGA GOP state


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 10, 2021, 08:41:30 AM
I was encouraged by how many moderate pubs were committed to abiding by the results of the election. (Which is pretty sad.) I am not encouraged by how many moderate pubs in the aftermath of the Capitol riot are playing politics as usual in order to cater to the rapidly growing contingent of their party who caused the riot. Bad omen.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2021, 09:40:21 AM
I think it would be difficult to replicate his draw without the insanity.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 10, 2021, 09:44:59 AM
Yeah that seems like more of a CYA qualifier than anything. Insane people follow Trump because he makes them feel right instead of crazy.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on January 10, 2021, 10:07:46 AM
Minority rule I'd believe as well, weird goal but I guess not really (power).
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 10, 2021, 11:19:34 AM
In addition to insanity being part of Trump's appeal, MAGAs also view him as the ultimate DC outsider. Tall order for pubs to replicate.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Pete on January 10, 2021, 11:29:49 AM
In addition to insanity being part of Trump's appeal, MAGAs also view him as the ultimate DC outsider. Tall order for pubs to replicate.

Names change, and so do backgrounds, but they thing we can always count on Republicans supporting is bigotry and anything that increases their wealth (or ensures that it is not reduced).  Or put another way, fear explains every ounce of Republicans.  Always has, always will.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 10, 2021, 12:57:35 PM
This seems like a positive step!

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 10, 2021, 02:20:53 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: bucket on January 10, 2021, 02:30:45 PM

This Republican has learned nothing.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Gooch on January 10, 2021, 03:44:36 PM
Going to need a whole lot more of this.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on January 10, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
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So, does this mean that Trump has a permanent hold on at least half of the GOP voting base and GOP members of Congress? According to the NBC/Wall Street Journal data, on average, 46.6 percent of Republicans are more a supporter of Trump than the party, while 40 percent pick party over Trump. This suggests that Trump's claim to 'ownership' of the GOP brand is malleable. Even so, it's clear that he leaves a very big shadow that will not fade overnight. 

https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/whose-party-it
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 11, 2021, 11:32:27 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Phil Titola on January 11, 2021, 11:34:28 AM
It's really the only way to invoke change.  Take their money away.  It seems many in this little event seem to think this was a joke and not serious. 
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2021, 11:36:43 AM
They shouldn't be able to fund any politician anyway
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on January 11, 2021, 11:43:18 AM
It's almost like these companies think insurrection and lack of trust in our elections is bad for business.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 11, 2021, 11:44:36 AM
Meh. Most people believe our system of government is politicians report to the people, but it’s probably closer to politicians report to corporations. The good news is that by all indications corporations seem to be better at responding to widespread public sentiment, so maybe it’s really not as big of a problem.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Phil Titola on January 11, 2021, 12:11:38 PM
They shouldn't be able to fund any politician anyway
For sure.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 11, 2021, 12:22:07 PM
PArt of the hard part now is getting the MAGAs to come back to non-maga after being humiliated.  They are embarrassed as hell
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 11, 2021, 01:45:10 PM
Another one. KC!
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Brock Landers on January 11, 2021, 01:53:59 PM
Another one. KC!

This could open the door to a whole new genre of movies on the Hallmark Channel   :D
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MadCat on January 11, 2021, 02:30:20 PM
Another one. KC!

This could open the door to a whole new genre of movies on the Hallmark Channel   :D
Imagine if you will: a jet lands in Kansas to deposit city-slicker divorcee from Arizona newly attending the capitol riot.  As the protagonist attempts to walk the remaining distance to home with her rolling suitcase in tow, her stiletto heel snaps off.  Defeated and alone, stranded on a stark Kansas highway, a local veterinarian/baker/Christmas tree rancher slows his half-ton pickup truck to offer a ride...
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Phil Titola on January 11, 2021, 02:58:58 PM
I like this one because they are asking for a refund  :ROFL:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 11, 2021, 03:06:45 PM
What is really sad for Kansas is the other two Republican candidates would have done the same thing Marshall did.  I applaud Moran for not following. 

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 11, 2021, 03:25:57 PM
What is really sad for Kansas is the other two Republican candidates would have done the same thing Marshall did.  I applaud Moran for not following.

Moran is not a moron (when it comes to many things, especially maga, he's usually more level headed)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 12, 2021, 12:25:15 AM
Another one. KC!

This could open the door to a whole new genre of movies on the Hallmark Channel   :D
Imagine if you will: a jet lands in Kansas to deposit city-slicker divorcee from Arizona newly attending the capitol riot.  As the protagonist attempts to walk the remaining distance to home with her rolling suitcase in tow, her stiletto heel snaps off.  Defeated and alone, stranded on a stark Kansas highway, a local veterinarian/baker/Christmas tree rancher slows his half-ton pickup truck to offer a ride...

Chef's kiss
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 12, 2021, 09:00:31 AM
Extremely lucid point.

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They were not storming the Capitol because they wanted to see a Republican in the White House. They were storming the Capitol because they wanted to see Trump in the White House.

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Polling conducted for HuffPost by YouGov last week captured the difference between Trump and the party explicitly. Asked whether they considered themselves more supporters of Trump or supporters of the Republican Party, 37 percent of Republicans said they were mostly Trump, not party, supporters. Among those who voted for Trump, that percentage was 44 percent. About 30 percent of Republicans and 22 percent of Trump voters said they were supporters of both; only 24 percent of Republicans and 21 percent of Trump voters said they were mostly supporters of the Republican Party.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Cire on January 12, 2021, 09:03:00 AM
Kevin McArthy pleading with the caucus to quit lying about the election.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 12, 2021, 02:47:20 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 12, 2021, 02:54:17 PM
What on earth
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 12, 2021, 02:55:56 PM
The Arizona GOP really seems to have the pulse of the nation right now. It's no wonder they did so well in this last election.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 12, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Cire on January 12, 2021, 07:27:59 PM
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I call bullshit


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 12, 2021, 07:41:07 PM
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They started opposing Trump at one point and never stopped.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: CNS on January 13, 2021, 11:36:18 AM

Censure seems to me to be something that doesn't matter now that all norms have been set on fire.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on January 14, 2021, 07:46:44 AM
I can't imagine Cindy McCain gives a eff. One of the points of contention is that she condemned Trump for his criticism of her husband.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 14, 2021, 08:41:13 AM
It probably matters to Ducey. Honestly, I don't understand how any normal voting republican wouldn't have already censured themselves from the party at this point.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 14, 2021, 01:35:58 PM
It probably matters to Ducey. Honestly, I don't understand how any normal voting republican wouldn't have already censured themselves from the party at this point.

Ducey was very MAGA before this, and I'm certain he still views himself as a trump supporter to an extent. This is wild, like I said a couple of months ago, these people are so fragile and non savvy that they have no problem depleting their own base because they get their feelings hurt.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 15, 2021, 09:32:30 AM
Excellent news. Going out on a low note.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 15, 2021, 10:00:52 AM
Excellent news. Going out on a low note.

I kind of look at this as a glass half empty thing if 30+ percent of the country is still okay with Trump at this point in history.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Cire on January 15, 2021, 12:41:35 PM
That's the 30 that back him if he shot someone on 6th ave or whatever.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 01:05:24 AM
a couple of somewhat discordant polls


Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 17, 2021, 03:35:45 PM
many recent polls had showed some deterioration in trump support, presumably a response to more unified and unequivocal media coverage post-riot.  but not here.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: bucket on January 19, 2021, 08:07:33 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on January 19, 2021, 08:13:38 PM
Genius idea
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 19, 2021, 08:15:10 PM
DO IT!
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 19, 2021, 08:54:38 PM
I think that has a shot. He has the cult like following, certainly enough politicians and burgeoning pols. The biggest deterrent to this would be could they actually find enough support in k street and enough corporate dollars to actually be a challenge to the republicans.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 19, 2021, 09:28:15 PM
What a wonderful idea.  Nothing would guarantee Democratic control for the next 16+ years like creating a party that takes votes from only one other party.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 20, 2021, 09:28:22 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on January 20, 2021, 09:32:20 PM
Pretty sure McConnell can dodge until it matters less
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 22, 2021, 07:41:55 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 22, 2021, 07:44:17 AM
chum1 then fist pumps knowing the corporatist Democratic Party may get more money from corporations

#fullyassimilated
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: LickNeckey on January 22, 2021, 08:46:04 AM
or we could pursue legitimate campaign finance reform
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 23, 2021, 07:31:19 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 23, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
At least one person there will die of COVID soon, right?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Spracne on January 23, 2021, 09:44:36 PM

Oh my god... all hell broke loose....

But seriously, without context, that video is very unsatisfying. Just looks like a cheap high school assembly.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: bucket on January 23, 2021, 10:21:53 PM

Oh my god... all hell broke loose....

But seriously, without context, that video is very unsatisfying. Just looks like a cheap high school assembly.

Before or after they censured Jeff Flake, Doug Ducey and Cindy McCain?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 25, 2021, 12:22:43 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 25, 2021, 02:18:05 PM

Cancel culture!!!  First amendment!!
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: mocat on January 25, 2021, 03:24:30 PM

even the way she pronounces Al-ber-to is lol
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 25, 2021, 03:27:47 PM

even the way she pronounces Al-ber-to is lol

Lon Floyd would have done it so much better.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 25, 2021, 11:56:08 PM

even the way she pronounces Al-ber-to is lol

Lon Floyd would have done it so much better.

holy crap, forgot about this dude
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 27, 2021, 05:40:54 AM
i generally believe in more of a stumbling buffoon trump than a 4d chess trump, but he seems to have put down any notion of mutiny senate 'pubs may have had and never broke a sweat doing it.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on January 27, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
I think his last 3 months in office have proved he is not some 4d chess playing anything, he only has an id and that's it. What he does have going for him as far as he knows or cares is nearly a 90% approval rating that was constant within the repub party, and overall knows he can do damn near anything and always have like 37-39% of the country no matter what. He just wants that and the adoration of it.

Any political genius thoughts come from the reaction of cucked and cowed people inside the repub party who don't want to constantly lose. This is the same thing that allowed them to keep him going in 2016, what forced them to hitch themselves/purge moderates in 2018, and what doomed them in 2020. They decided to do that, trump just decided to never change course. 
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 27, 2021, 12:46:47 PM
Wouldn't a maga-free republican party be attractive to moderate independents or democrats who walked away ;) from anything "republican" the past 5 years because it got excessively repug?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 27, 2021, 01:15:09 PM
Wouldn't a maga-free republican party be attractive to moderate independents or democrats who walked away ;) from anything "republican" the past 5 years because it got excessively repug?

MAGAs need to be given their own country. They are too many for there to be any democratic way to handle them.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 27, 2021, 01:45:10 PM
Wouldn't a maga-free republican party be attractive to moderate independents or democrats who walked away ;) from anything "republican" the past 5 years because it got excessively repug?

I would assume the difference between moderate democrats and moderate republicans come down two one or two issues that aren't changing. I'm certain that the religious right would certainly break with the republicans and not maga, so that almost instantly maintains the divide between moderate pubs and dems.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 27, 2021, 02:27:11 PM
I know that there’d still be republicans and democrats. I’m skeptical of the figures getting floated that imply that the republicans would consist only of [# of republicans in mid-2020] minus [magas who go do their own thing]. I think there’d be people who weren’t republicans in mid-2020 (because maga, gross) who’d look at the maga-free republicans and think that’s a decent fit now that the magas aren’t part of it. No idea how many.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 28, 2021, 12:06:04 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 28, 2021, 03:42:19 AM
Come on sys, this primary is so far away it doesn't even have a date yet, approximately 18 months from now. Not only that, but that poll is beyond polluted and is Rasmussen level propaganda.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 28, 2021, 10:37:42 AM
Wouldn't a maga-free republican party be attractive to moderate independents or democrats who walked away ;) from anything "republican" the past 5 years because it got excessively repug?

This would be very attractive to me, a moderate.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 28, 2021, 10:46:48 AM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 28, 2021, 10:54:10 AM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.

Mid-2020 GOP minus maga plus lsoc.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on January 28, 2021, 11:04:02 AM
Republicans have always been maga though, trump just made them unashamed to be public about it
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Chingon on January 28, 2021, 11:04:10 AM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 28, 2021, 11:04:48 AM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.

Mid-2020 GOP minus maga plus lsoc.

That gets rid of everyone but steve dave and lsoc.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 28, 2021, 11:05:54 AM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.

Mid-2020 GOP minus maga plus lsoc.

That gets rid of everyone but steve dave and lsoc.

Talk about a winning ticket
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on January 28, 2021, 11:12:57 AM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.

Mid-2020 GOP minus maga plus lsoc.

That gets rid of everyone but steve dave and lsoc.

Especially now that you've put it that way, I'm in.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2021, 02:27:48 PM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water

This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 28, 2021, 02:30:55 PM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water

This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Spracne on January 28, 2021, 02:39:44 PM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water

This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

As in I can root for an individual player without being a fan of his or her team. It's not that hard to wrap your big brain around.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: DQ12 on January 28, 2021, 02:45:51 PM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water

This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

As in I can root for an individual player without being a fan of his or her team. It's not that hard to wrap your big brain around.
Yeah I guess so.  But voting for a Republican implicitly feels like "backing the party."  For the vast majority of voters, I think the decision at the ballot box is the extent of the "backing" they give to either candidate or party.  Anyway, stupid semantical side tangent.  We can move on.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2021, 02:57:35 PM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water

This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

I could vote for a Republican candidate like Sasse that has not continuously towed the company line.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 28, 2021, 03:06:34 PM
Sasse voted against conviction during the impeachment trial.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on January 28, 2021, 03:08:37 PM
Sasse voted against conviction during the impeachment trial.

While I don't agree with him there, he isn't irredeemable in my mind.  There are a lot of people that I would vote for over Sasse too, just that I wouldn't rule him out from the jump.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on January 28, 2021, 03:12:17 PM
I'll add you to the official Sasseholes mailing list chicat. we appreciate your luke warm support (as it's our preferred water temp).
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 28, 2021, 10:41:40 PM
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
Dehydrated water

This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

 :love: :love: :love:
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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 28, 2021, 11:45:10 PM
arizona republicans are emerging as real thought leaders in the post-trump gop.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 29, 2021, 10:35:07 AM
Holy crap.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 29, 2021, 10:38:05 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on January 29, 2021, 10:42:56 AM
I think it's safe to say that were not yet seeing signs of a post Trump GOP.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 29, 2021, 10:53:11 AM
arizona republicans are emerging as real thought leaders in the post-trump gop.


This seems like a pretty good way to get more democrats into their state legislature.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 29, 2021, 10:58:08 AM
I was thinking a good way to get more on board with eliminating the electoral college.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 29, 2021, 11:20:11 AM
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on January 29, 2021, 11:22:49 AM
It's hard to imagine enough support to get one passed, that's for sure.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 29, 2021, 11:27:32 AM
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Doesn’t have to be initially if enough states agree to do it on their own. If/when that threshold is crossed I think it would only take a few election cycles for people to be fine with amending the constitution.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Spracne on January 29, 2021, 11:29:07 AM
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.

As a general rule, this is probably a safe bet. However, something catastrophic and unexpected could happen, and that could break the cycle.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 29, 2021, 11:29:54 AM
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Doesn’t have to be initially if enough states agree to do it on their own. If/when that threshold is crossed I think it would only take a few election cycles for people to be fine with amending the constitution.

The pact is a cool concept, but it's also pretty flimsy. What stops a state from backing out and going with who their state actually voted for?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on January 29, 2021, 12:15:17 PM
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Doesn’t have to be initially if enough states agree to do it on their own. If/when that threshold is crossed I think it would only take a few election cycles for people to be fine with amending the constitution.

The pact is a cool concept, but it's also pretty flimsy. What stops a state from backing out and going with who their state actually voted for?
I think the states’ own constitutions would stop it. Not sure if there is a legislative mechanism that could quickly undo it, but even then you can bet any emergency attempt would get tied up in court.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 30, 2021, 10:45:26 AM
I think we know the answer:

Quote
Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 30, 2021, 03:31:19 PM
MQGA!

Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) Tweeted:
I had a GREAT call with my all time favorite POTUS, President Trump! 

I’m so grateful for his support and more importantly the people of this country are absolutely 100% loyal to him because he is 100% loyal to the people and America First.

Cont’d...
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 30, 2021, 03:34:55 PM
I think we know the answer:

Quote
Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

four years is a long time away, but right now i'm not sure romney would even win a primary to run for reelection to the senate.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 30, 2021, 03:52:11 PM
I think we know the answer:

Quote
Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

four years is a long time away, but right now i'm not sure romney would even win a primary to run for reelection to the senate.
The fact that nutcases like Greene, Goetz and Boebert are able to win elections (even if it is in a backwater congressional district) really dismays me. These people are totally detached from reality.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 30, 2021, 04:22:37 PM
yeah, we're mumped.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on January 30, 2021, 04:23:51 PM
I think we know the answer:

Quote
Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

You don't really think it'd be greene do you?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 30, 2021, 04:30:50 PM
I think we know the answer:

Quote
Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

You don't really think it'd be greene do you?
Guess it depends on if we are talking about a national primary or state primary. I think she'd have a great chance at beating Romney in Kansas. You should see all the Trump signs and flags that are still up here in Smallville.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on January 30, 2021, 04:48:20 PM
against romney, it would be greene.  romney is brutally unpopular with republican voters.  i think a different "mainstream" republican would still beat greene, but it'd probably be a lot closer than it's comfortable to contemplate.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: IPA4Me on January 30, 2021, 05:11:38 PM
Unfortunately, moderates aren't very popular these days.

Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 01, 2021, 03:01:08 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2021, 04:26:02 PM
lol
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/e6d/a79/1d8a48d260ab1c2f1629efaef9190e7854-mtg--.2x.rsocial.w600.jpg)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Chingon on February 01, 2021, 04:49:25 PM
Looks like the Dems are fully intending to taze their balls/vags clean off.  So stupid. 
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on February 01, 2021, 04:54:15 PM
It's funny to me that Dems are concerned about setting a "dangerous precedent" as alluded to in the article.  The GOP gives no fucks about precedent when they want something done.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: michigancat on February 01, 2021, 04:54:57 PM
she's like that kid who got elected to the KS legislature
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 01, 2021, 11:02:36 PM
she's like that kid who got elected to the KS legislature

Exactly, and should be treated the same censure her, wait for her to do something criminal then send her ass back to the hills.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 01, 2021, 11:17:54 PM
While Eric "love you long time" Swalwell continues to sit on committee's.

I guess someone who has "known" a Chinese spy would would know a lot about spies.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 02, 2021, 05:29:53 AM
While Eric "love you long time" Swalwell continues to sit on committee's.

I guess someone who has "known" a Chinese spy would would know a lot about spies.


Racism and improper use of punctuation in the same post. Classic Dax.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 02, 2021, 09:54:18 AM
While Eric "love you long time" Swalwell continues to sit on committee's.

I guess someone who has "known" a Chinese spy would would know a lot about spies.


Racism and improper use of punctuation in the same post. Classic Dax.

it's a classic grandpa post
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 02, 2021, 01:48:14 PM
?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 02, 2021, 02:05:18 PM
RINO SMDH
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 02, 2021, 03:02:49 PM
While Eric "love you long time" Swalwell continues to sit on committee's.

I guess someone who has "known" a Chinese spy would would know a lot about spies.


Racism and improper use of punctuation in the same post. Classic Dax.

Nobody circles the wagons around his party's POS like WAKS.

I'd also add Swalwell to one of the primary #blueanon ringleaders, at a Schiff'ian level 6.7 out of 7

There wasn't a single lunatic conspiracy that Swalwell didn't 1000% go in on . . . it was almost like he was engaged in a disinformation campaign on behalf of another foreign power.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: CNS on February 02, 2021, 03:15:01 PM
I think we know the answer:

Quote
Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

four years is a long time away, but right now i'm not sure romney would even win a primary to run for reelection to the senate.
The fact that nutcases like Greene, Goetz and Boebert are able to win elections (even if it is in a backwater congressional district) really dismays me. These people are totally detached from reality.

This is a good argument for not convicting Trump, imo.  I am not saying that this should be the route taken, but if trump is convicted, he will pull out of the GOP and do the his own party thing.  That will fracture the GOP for the foreseeable future.  If that doesn't happen, the Mitch's can fight from inside to squash the MAGA out.  You already see Mitch trying to do a little of that with MTG. 

I personally, want trump convicted, but understand it isn't going to happen.  the incentives are misaligned.  Due to the party split that would happen, most of the incumbent Pubs would have a hard time winning re-election against dems with a split party.  They aren't voting on Don.  they are voting to keep their jobs next go 'round.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 02, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
While Eric "love you long time" Swalwell continues to sit on committee's.

I guess someone who has "known" a Chinese spy would would know a lot about spies.


Racism and improper use of punctuation in the same post. Classic Dax.

Notice he didn't even bother to push back on the racism claim.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 02, 2021, 09:05:26 PM
Why should I fight back for being called a racist against people who call anyone who disagrees with the politics or opinions of members of their political movement a racist?

You've watered down the word racist to the point that it's utterly meaningless.

Only the most hardcore hyper-partisan douchebags would step up to defend a POS like Swalwell who sadly keeps being given positions of power by the POS who run your party.



Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on February 02, 2021, 09:15:21 PM
Why should I fight back for being called a racist against people who call anyone who disagrees with the politics or opinions of members of their political movement a racist?

You've watered down the word racist to the point that it's utterly meaningless.

Only the most hardcore hyper-partisan douchebags would step up to defend a POS like Swalwell who sadly keeps being given positions of power by the POS who run your party.

Under the extremely watered down gE version of the term, are you a racist?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 02, 2021, 09:18:24 PM
Why should I fight back for being called a racist against people who call anyone who disagrees with the politics or opinions of members of their political movement a racist?

You've watered down the word racist to the point that it's utterly meaningless.

Only the most hardcore hyper-partisan douchebags would step up to defend a POS like Swalwell who sadly keeps being given positions of power by the POS who run your party.

Under the extremely watered down gE version of the term, are you a racist?

No, are you?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on February 02, 2021, 10:18:26 PM
Well to be fair, I don't know what you consider to be the watered down version of gE's definition of "racist."  Tell me what it is and I can answer your question.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 02, 2021, 10:31:39 PM
Well to be fair, I don't know what you consider to be the watered down version of gE's definition of "racist."  Tell me what it is and I can answer your question.

Disagreeing with the politics of a liberal.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on February 02, 2021, 10:54:14 PM
And you haven’t done that? Damn.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 02, 2021, 10:58:40 PM
And you haven’t done that? Damn.

I don't think you understand how this works.

You asked what that resident ProgFascist standard was.



Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 03, 2021, 07:30:33 AM
Oh no...
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 07:41:57 AM
 :lol:  Right on cue  :lol:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 07:45:43 AM
Just clarify for my resident stalkers.

I am by the definition of the resident ProgFascists a racist because I don't agree in totality with the political beliefs of ProgFascists.

So rather than debate the actual topic, the resident ProgFascists immediately throw the race card anytime they need to defend one of their own.

In this case, waks feels the need to jump in and defend a total POS like Eric Swalwell.  Who on top of being a total POS, is also one of the chief #blueanon types just below known liar (and repeated leaker of classified information) Adam Schiff.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 03, 2021, 07:49:43 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 07:51:14 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 03, 2021, 08:49:02 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)
If you don't understand why your statement of Eric "Love You Long Time" Swalwell is racist then I don't know how to help you. You're beyond helping. It has nothing to do with political dogma or defending Swalwell.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 03, 2021, 09:26:02 AM
Crosspost from Trump Owns Russia thread:

?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 09:30:17 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)
If you don't understand why your statement of Eric "Love You Long Time" Swalwell is racist then I don't know how to help you. You're beyond helping. It has nothing to do with political dogma or defending Swalwell.

It was directed at Swalwell, a white dude with a frat boy hair cut.  If you can't understand that, I can't help you.   But you do understand that, and you know that the only way you can defend a POS like Swalwell is to (once again) poorly play the race card. 

I'll remind myself that hell has no fury like ProgFascists defending their POS politicians.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 03, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)
If you don't understand why your statement of Eric "Love You Long Time" Swalwell is racist then I don't know how to help you. You're beyond helping. It has nothing to do with political dogma or defending Swalwell.

yeah.  I think this is agernational thing.  Olds see nothing wrong with this racist quote from full metal jacket.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 03, 2021, 10:44:26 AM
I don't think he even knows that Vietnam is a different country from China
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
And simpletons will never stop using huge stretches in an attempt to protect their #blueanon enablers, like Swalwell.

Sad




Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 03, 2021, 10:56:15 AM
I don't think he even knows that Vietnam is a different country from China

Or that they speak different languages
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 10:58:31 AM
StarStalker.7 and SlowDug Deflecto Meters:  275%
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 03, 2021, 11:09:09 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)
If you don't understand why your statement of Eric "Love You Long Time" Swalwell is racist then I don't know how to help you. You're beyond helping. It has nothing to do with political dogma or defending Swalwell.

It was directed at Swalwell, a white dude with a frat boy hair cut.  If you can't understand that, I can't help you.   But you do understand that, and you know that the only way you can defend a POS like Swalwell is to (once again) poorly play the race card. 

I'll remind myself that hell has no fury like ProgFascists defending their POS politicians.
So if it was a Russian spy that he was rough ridin' you would make the same joke? Ok.  :blank:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 03, 2021, 11:19:53 AM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)
If you don't understand why your statement of Eric "Love You Long Time" Swalwell is racist then I don't know how to help you. You're beyond helping. It has nothing to do with political dogma or defending Swalwell.

It was directed at Swalwell, a white dude with a frat boy hair cut.  If you can't understand that, I can't help you.   But you do understand that, and you know that the only way you can defend a POS like Swalwell is to (once again) poorly play the race card. 

I'll remind myself that hell has no fury like ProgFascists defending their POS politicians.
So if it was a Russian spy that he was rough ridin' you would make the same joke? Ok.  :blank:

he would.  Olds really get their kicks off of that stuff
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: LickNeckey on February 03, 2021, 11:23:51 AM
Dax is actually incapable of being critical of the Russian regime
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 03:23:42 PM
Well, in the dilemma of being wrong or admitting to being a racist, dax chooses racism.

So on brand.

You define racism as anyone who disagrees with your political dogma.

1000% on brand for StarStalker.7 (and most of the others)
If you don't understand why your statement of Eric "Love You Long Time" Swalwell is racist then I don't know how to help you. You're beyond helping. It has nothing to do with political dogma or defending Swalwell.

It was directed at Swalwell, a white dude with a frat boy hair cut.  If you can't understand that, I can't help you.   But you do understand that, and you know that the only way you can defend a POS like Swalwell is to (once again) poorly play the race card. 

I'll remind myself that hell has no fury like ProgFascists defending their POS politicians.
So if it was a Russian spy that he was rough ridin' you would make the same joke? Ok.  :blank:

Who knows? 

I can say with 1000% certainty he could have then and now been rough ridin' a spy from any country and you'd still be enabling that #blueanon POS.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 03:24:26 PM
Dax is actually incapable of being critical of the Russian regime

Only the extremely small brained and easily manipulated believe that Russia is a real problem.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 03, 2021, 04:06:13 PM
Russia is soft as butter, but they try so damn hard to piss us off it's funny
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 03, 2021, 04:22:02 PM
Dax is actually incapable of being critical of the Russian regime

Only the extremely small brained and easily manipulated believe that Russia is a real problem.

LOL add this to the book
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 03, 2021, 07:50:34 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 03, 2021, 07:54:07 PM
A huge victory for the Party(ies) of Perpetual War.

War Monger Biden must be thrilled!

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 04, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-gave-marjorie-taylor-greene-private-standing-ovation-reports-2021-2

Remember when the republicans kicked Tim Huelskamp off the Ag Committee for being a dumbass?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 04, 2021, 09:48:42 AM
A huge victory for the Party(ies) of Perpetual War.

War Monger Biden must be thrilled!

Big blow for the Q's
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: CNS on February 04, 2021, 11:06:46 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-standing-ovation-b1797361.html

GOP only house meeting and MTG got a standing ovation from half the members. 

This party split may actually happen.

Also, I read that the Boebert received a GED in 2020.  I mean, more power to those doing positive things during the down time of quarantine, but that's a congress woman now.  We have gone from intelligent liars manipulating idiots for power the the idiots believing the lies so strongly, and for long enough, that they have decided to, and successfully, run for congress themselves.  We now are in the Culture Warrior stage of Congress, rather than the smoky back room stage.  Is that a step up or down?

The new Q contingent is interesting. 

They are either going to force GOP normies to comply to Q or they are going to force a split.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 04, 2021, 11:11:04 AM
JFC, this is really something.  My party is tazing their own balls to death over a ridiculous internet rumor/game.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 04, 2021, 11:26:56 AM
Greene is obviously a huge sack of crap but as always the dems can't get out of their own way. They have no business dictating that she can't sit on committees because she's a horrible human. I don't know why they just can't let the pubs deal with it and any repercussions that comes from whatever they decide.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on February 04, 2021, 11:34:38 AM
It is something to observe how spectacularly both parties can fail when given the floor. It’s like they exist solely to oppose each other (spoiler: they basically do).
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on February 04, 2021, 11:37:20 AM
Look at Mitt proposing legislation that can win bipartisan support and help people.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/future-perfect/22264520/mitt-romney-checks-parents-4200?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 04, 2021, 11:39:30 AM
Greene is obviously a huge sack of crap but as always the dems can't get out of their own way. They have no business dictating that she can't sit on committees because she's a horrible human. I don't know why they just can't let the pubs deal with it and any repercussions that comes from whatever they decide.

Do they need a 2/3 vote or simple majority? Regardless, I think it's probably politically expedient to force house republicans to go on the record stating they believe a woman who believes Jewish space lasers caused the California wildfires and also that the Sandy Hook shooting was a false flag with paid actors should be on the education committee.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Cire on February 04, 2021, 11:47:37 AM
oh great, now these people are going to quit their walmart jobs to just sit around and have kids!

Thanks mitt!
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 04, 2021, 01:52:58 PM
Look at Mitt proposing legislation that can win bipartisan support and help people.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/future-perfect/22264520/mitt-romney-checks-parents-4200?__twitter_impression=true

Socialism :cool:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on February 04, 2021, 06:51:46 PM
some weird combos.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 04, 2021, 08:45:04 PM
Not sure what's going on with Rice, Malliotakis, Jacobs, and Gimenez.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: bucket on February 04, 2021, 09:19:50 PM
Not sure what's going on with Rice, Malliotakis, Jacobs, and Gimenez.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 04, 2021, 11:30:36 PM
Ok but what if it was the Jewish space laser that pew pew pew’d that guy in the dingdong instead of his own taser?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 05, 2021, 07:54:26 AM
Mark (@mwp764) Tweeted:
Ironically, I also woke up laughing this morning at how smug I am that *voting machine companies* are dealing justice more swiftly and more thoroughly than the entire GOP at this point. https://t.co/oH0wg8D6V2
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 05, 2021, 12:38:32 PM
I bet MTG is fantastic at the secks.  The crazy ones always are.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 05, 2021, 03:58:51 PM
Ok but what if it was the Jewish space laser that pew pew pew’d that guy in the dingdong instead of his own taser?

 :Wha:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on February 06, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
i can't remember what thread dax puts all his anti-swalwell stuff in, so i'll just put this here.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on February 06, 2021, 05:16:41 PM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 07, 2021, 01:04:15 AM
Imagine even hinting at defending Eric Swalwell aka Mini Schiff.

Sad
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 07, 2021, 01:05:50 AM
ProgFascist Nation has a kindred spirit in Liz 'forever wars' Cheney.

The two entities are indistinguishable at this point.



Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 09, 2021, 09:07:18 AM
Anyone else have fond memories of watching Mona Charen on CNN's The Firing Line back in the 90's?

Quote
In opposing Trump and working for a Biden victory, many of us in the Never Trump camp have been happy to make alliances with progressives and others who are committed to decency and the rule of law.

Where we go from here is less clear. Some will become Democrats. Others will work to reform the Republican party. Still others will consider forming a new party.

America desperately needs a sane center right party. The matter is urgent because as things now stand, every general election between Democrats and the current Republican party will be a contest between democracy and its enemies.


?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 11, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
I bet MTG is fantastic at the secks.  The crazy ones always are.
@Jobu, looks like there was at least one guy out there who wanted to try it out:

?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 11, 2021, 01:38:57 PM
This feels like the most normal thing about her
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 11, 2021, 01:41:12 PM
Tantric sex guru
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 11, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
I enjoyed this, also:

?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 11, 2021, 01:59:54 PM
Excellent call by Jobu. She honestly struck me as a freak, too.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MadCat on February 11, 2021, 02:04:31 PM
Looks like she cheated with Zangief
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 11, 2021, 02:04:48 PM
I feel sorry for her husband.  He's been tapping the crazy for 25 years.  He won't find anything better.

I doubt that they split up. 
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2021, 02:06:55 PM
Looks like she cheated with Zangief

First off, this is spot on.


Also, I don't imagine it's very satisfying to go from tantric sex guru to gym manager.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 11, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
Excellent call by Jobu. She honestly struck me as a freak, too.
Don't anyone PI me for saying this but it makes you wonder about Boebert and McEnany, as well. Just the brazen craziness.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 11, 2021, 02:32:37 PM
Excellent call by Jobu. She honestly struck me as a freak, too.
Don't anyone PI me for saying this but it makes you wonder about Boebert and McEnany, as well. Just the brazen craziness.


Boebert for sure.  Crazy as a shithouse rat.

McEnany just strikes me as a dummy.  Prolly still good in the sack tho.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
The bowling alley story where Boebert's boyfriend (now husband) showed the tattoo on his penis to an underage girl at the snack bar is kind of amazing.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 11, 2021, 02:42:35 PM
Who wants to invite fitz back to gE so we can really get this boner thread moving?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 11, 2021, 02:45:52 PM
I thought that guy was dead.  No?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 11, 2021, 02:59:47 PM
Who wants to invite fitz back to gE so we can really get this boner thread moving?
Boner stuff, continued:

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 11, 2021, 03:04:26 PM
I wonder if tantric sex gurus have a union.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: 8manpick on February 11, 2021, 03:08:52 PM
Wow, is this goPow now?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 11, 2021, 03:13:09 PM
Wow, is this goPow now?
The future of the GOP IS GOP(ow).
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on February 11, 2021, 03:17:01 PM
One of the pics in that article is of the husband having worked out in jorts.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 11, 2021, 04:28:41 PM
One of the pics in that article is of the husband having worked out in jorts.

I think that's sexy for a segment of the population, namely ones who would attract someone like MTG.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MadCat on February 11, 2021, 04:46:34 PM
Everyone is someone's type
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 11, 2021, 06:00:05 PM
Lol

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on February 11, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
Chalk up another "christian" to the legions of heathens.

Again for the record, just like the Liberty U guy, I could care less what she does, that's her life. Just you know, if you can't practice what you preach, then shut the hell up.

Also yes, Jobu def nailed her, and honestly once you see it out in the open it makes sense, a lot. She's got a pretty high motor in real life, doesn't surprise me it keeps going behind closed doors. She definitely seeks these out too, she doesn't strike me as a women that can be kept down easily, if you catch my drift.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: kim carnes on February 11, 2021, 06:21:41 PM
I bet MTG is fantastic at the secks.  The crazy ones always are.
@Jobu, looks like there was at least one guy out there who wanted to try it out:

?s=20

the article is quite light on actual evidence, the guys won’t admit to it.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Institutional Control on February 11, 2021, 06:34:30 PM
I wish that whatever people do in their bedroom was nobody else’s business.


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on February 12, 2021, 12:06:21 AM
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/11/page-tied-reno-county-gop-posts-conspiracy-theories-d-c-riot-capitol-insurrection-trump-election/6720665002/
Title: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 12, 2021, 12:21:06 AM
Anyone else have fond memories of watching Mona Charen on CNN's The Firing Line back in the 90's?

Quote
In opposing Trump and working for a Biden victory, many of us in the Never Trump camp have been happy to make alliances with progressives and others who are committed to decency and the rule of law.

Where we go from here is less clear. Some will become Democrats. Others will work to reform the Republican party. Still others will consider forming a new party.

America desperately needs a sane center right party. The matter is urgent because as things now stand, every general election between Democrats and the current Republican party will be a contest between democracy and its enemies.


?s=20
It really fascinating to see a guy who just about 16 or 17 years ago was universally despised in the ProgLib (now ProgFascist) camp, be welcomed into the new offshoot movement (comprised of millions) with open arms. 

The guy who some ProgLibs wanted tried for war crimes. 

Congrats Bill Kristol, you got one hell of a grift going.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Jobu on February 12, 2021, 07:44:37 AM

Also yes, Jobu def nailed her


Oh, man.  I wish.   :fatty:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 12, 2021, 09:34:40 AM
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/11/page-tied-reno-county-gop-posts-conspiracy-theories-d-c-riot-capitol-insurrection-trump-election/6720665002/
Yeah. Our county's Republican party facebook page is an absolute cesspit of this kind of MAQA conspiratorial BS. One reason that I'm deeply pessimistic about the future of the GOP.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MadCat on February 12, 2021, 10:34:32 AM
Will there be a new center-right party?  Will it be full of Sasseholes?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 12, 2021, 10:43:21 AM
The democratic party will continue to be the center-right party.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2021, 10:47:49 AM
The democratic party will continue to be the center-right party.

Yep
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Chingon on February 14, 2021, 02:39:34 PM
So I think it's clear that there will be no post-Trump GOP for at least a generation or so.   

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on February 15, 2021, 10:25:20 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 15, 2021, 10:30:42 AM
The Texas gop chair came out in favor of texit. Trump has completely broken gop brains.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 15, 2021, 11:15:21 AM
The Texas gop chair came out in favor of texit. Trump has completely broken gop brains.

He has tazed their balls.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 15, 2021, 12:31:12 PM
Hey hey, only we can talk about secession and breaking up the United States . . . ProgFascist/#blueanon nation

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 15, 2021, 12:34:32 PM
I hope you resident ProgFascists know that your movement got absolutely clown suited twice in the impeachment process, very very embarrassing for you.

At least 25 other ways of handling that situation that could have made getting iPOTUS Biden elected a lot easier.

The good thing for you, is that your like the Red Army of Korean War vintage and are doing a great job of ensuring that you'll be able to run over conservatives with wave upon wave of drone like entities that believes every single whack-a-doo conspiracy your leadership can dream up.   


Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: bucket on February 15, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
You don't speak for blueanon!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 15, 2021, 02:08:00 PM
I hope you resident ProgFascists know that your movement got absolutely clown suited twice in the impeachment process, very very embarrassing for you.

At least 25 other ways of handling that situation that could have made getting iPOTUS Biden elected a lot easier.

The good thing for you, is that your like the Red Army of Korean War vintage and are doing a great job of ensuring that you'll be able to run over conservatives with wave upon wave of drone like entities that believes every single whack-a-doo conspiracy your leadership can dream up.
How could it have been any easier? Trump got destroyed.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 15, 2021, 02:08:36 PM
Hey hey, only we can talk about secession and breaking up the United States . . . ProgFascist/#blueanon nation
Literally nobody ever has seriously suggested doing this.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 15, 2021, 02:47:40 PM
Roger Marshall feels confident that cowardice is good for the grift!

(https://i.imgur.com/uJSvSgX.png)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on February 15, 2021, 03:05:54 PM
Hey hey, only we can talk about secession and breaking up the United States . . . ProgFascist/#blueanon nation
Literally nobody ever has seriously suggested doing this.

:dubious:
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 15, 2021, 03:15:10 PM
Hey hey, only we can talk about secession and breaking up the United States . . . ProgFascist/#blueanon nation
Literally nobody ever has seriously suggested doing this.

:dubious:
I assumed he was talking about post Civil War and I meant on this blog. I'm sure there is probably a contingency of people on the west coast that think California or PNW should secede but nobody should take them seriously, just as nobody should take Texit seriously.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on February 15, 2021, 03:21:55 PM
We seriously should break up the united states.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 15, 2021, 03:50:00 PM
We seriously should break up the united states.
I was just watching a program about the partition of India after the British left. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer but it seems like lot of stuff could go terribly wrong.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 15, 2021, 04:11:09 PM
We seriously should break up the united states.
How would you do it?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Institutional Control on February 15, 2021, 09:17:16 PM
We seriously should break up the united states.
How would you do it?

I think there’s an entire thread about it.


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Institutional Control on February 15, 2021, 09:36:44 PM
Breaking up the United States
 https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?share_fid=22920&share_tid=35629&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgoemaw%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D35629&share_type=t&link_source=app


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 15, 2021, 11:01:04 PM
I always took that thread to be more of a fantasy/joke thread. Perhaps I stand corrected. If anyone actually thinks any of the scenarios in that thread are probable, let alone possible, then well, I think they should probably be ridiculed.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 15, 2021, 11:19:09 PM
Oh look, waks is like years behind. 

No one is the least bit surprised.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 16, 2021, 12:10:32 AM
Some people just don't get goEMAW. Sad.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Institutional Control on February 16, 2021, 07:31:07 AM
I always took that thread to be more of a fantasy/joke thread. Perhaps I stand corrected. If anyone actually thinks any of the scenarios in that thread are probable, let alone possible, then well, I think they should probably be ridiculed.

Well, it is never going to happen in our lifetime.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2021, 08:43:36 AM
I think that if any southern state wants to leave, we should let them. The only one that wouldn't be addition by subtraction would be Texas.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 16, 2021, 09:21:00 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 16, 2021, 09:25:40 AM
Poll yesterday came out and 3/4 of Republicans want trump to be a major figure in the party going forward.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: memphis on February 16, 2021, 09:32:46 AM
The derth of leadership to let Trump be it is still kind of astounding. Like they could all be Sasseholes or whatevs.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2021, 10:44:43 AM
I think that if any southern state wants to leave, we should let them. The only one that wouldn't be addition by subtraction would be Texas.

LOL, seriously?  (checks U.S. domestic migration charts and ingress/egress rankings)

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 16, 2021, 11:05:45 AM
I think that if any southern state wants to leave, we should let them. The only one that wouldn't be addition by subtraction would be Texas.

Yeah, we should try to keep Texas.  The rest are net takers, living off of the north's charity.  Should try to work a deal for New Orleans.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on February 16, 2021, 12:31:59 PM
I always took that thread to be more of a fantasy/joke thread. Perhaps I stand corrected. If anyone actually thinks any of the scenarios in that thread are probable, let alone possible, then well, I think they should probably be ridiculed.

It would be difficult, but good things are.  I don't look at it from the angry secession perspective, but more an amicable divorce perspective.  We've grown apart and that's OK.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 16, 2021, 12:55:58 PM
I think that realistically, if we offered the south a peaceful secession, they would refuse. They are only interested if it involves a violent uprising where they get their balls collectively tased off and they get to continue to be Americans afterward.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 16, 2021, 01:32:09 PM
I think that realistically, if we offered the south a peaceful secession, they would refuse. They are only interested if it involves a violent uprising where they get their balls collectively tased off and they get to continue to be Americans afterward.

They wouldn't actually do it.  If that collection of obese states think they could go it alone without the federal aid they aren't looking at math.  They are net takers.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: passranch on February 16, 2021, 02:24:19 PM
I always took that thread to be more of a fantasy/joke thread. Perhaps I stand corrected. If anyone actually thinks any of the scenarios in that thread are probable, let alone possible, then well, I think they should probably be ridiculed.

Well, it is never going to happen in our lifetime.


Not with that defeatist attitude it's not.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 16, 2021, 02:25:08 PM
Texas wouldn't do it either. They complain about illegal immigration now. Imagine the problems they would have without the USFG (insert Dems want open borders strawman here). Also, when you start to factor in matters of national defense. Roflmao. Let them try to do it on their own.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Save us Ben Sasse, you’re our only hope


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Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 17, 2021, 11:57:56 AM
https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/our-political-family-feuds (https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/our-political-family-feuds)
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 17, 2021, 12:43:31 PM
Only a completely out-of-touch idiot doesn't believe that the ProgFascist movement isn't pushing hard for open borders.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2021, 01:22:33 PM
Now Texas showed they are incompetent in getting power to their citizens
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2021, 10:11:42 PM
I always took that thread to be more of a fantasy/joke thread. Perhaps I stand corrected. If anyone actually thinks any of the scenarios in that thread are probable, let alone possible, then well, I think they should probably be ridiculed.

It would be difficult, but good things are.  I don't look at it from the angry secession perspective, but more an amicable divorce perspective.  We've grown apart and that's OK.

You lived most of your life in Kansas and outside Portland and Seattle the PNW is filled with racist survivalist who would rather drink pond water and eat MREs than go to the store with the coloreds and globalists.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Spracne on February 17, 2021, 10:13:08 PM
Not to be argumentative, but what's wrong with MREs? Them shits are delicious AND sustaining....
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 17, 2021, 10:19:00 PM
Not to be argumentative, but what's wrong with MREs? Them shits are delicious AND sustaining....

Well I haven't had one in roughly 30 years, when they only came in solid green bags, and they were crap, so you may be right.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Trim on February 17, 2021, 10:41:12 PM
I always took that thread to be more of a fantasy/joke thread. Perhaps I stand corrected. If anyone actually thinks any of the scenarios in that thread are probable, let alone possible, then well, I think they should probably be ridiculed.

It would be difficult, but good things are.  I don't look at it from the angry secession perspective, but more an amicable divorce perspective.  We've grown apart and that's OK.

You lived most of your life in Kansas and outside Portland and Seattle the PNW is filled with racist survivalist who would rather drink pond water and eat MREs than go to the store with the coloreds and globalists.

There’ll definitely have to be a lot of moving around via the transfer portal.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2021, 09:20:11 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 22, 2021, 09:27:57 AM
Lol.  That is a good way for the GQP to lose by even wider margins than it did in 2020.  Maybe Trump running again is what finally turns Texas blue. 

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 22, 2021, 09:31:49 AM
I'd prefer him to go away forever. But pubs getting hamstrung with a proven loser in 2024 seems like getting what they deserve for embracing him to begin with.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Chingon on February 22, 2021, 09:32:58 AM
I dunno man, I think Trump will grab back a lot of votes back from the 'burn it down' crew again.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 22, 2021, 10:01:14 AM
Just when you think they can't taze anymore, they turn the tazer up to 11 and blast their own bags into 2024
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 22, 2021, 10:10:10 AM
Who will run against him in the primary? I'm guessing we get Sasse and maybe Romney. Not expecting much opposition, really.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Institutional Control on February 22, 2021, 10:53:00 AM
Dude is going to so old in 4 years.  If he won, he'd be 86 at the end of his term.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 22, 2021, 10:55:48 AM
Dude is going to so old in 4 years.  If he won, he'd be 86 at the end of his term.

I don't think his age is going to matter much. It's not like he would be any less competent as a leader than he was the last time. I'd be a little bit surprised if he lives that long, though.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2021, 11:38:19 AM
Who will run against him in the primary? I'm guessing we get Sasse and maybe Romney. Not expecting much opposition, really.

The article says he isn't going to run, he's just saying that to hang on to power. He's more likely to be in jail for tax evasion than the Republican nominee for president.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 22, 2021, 11:53:49 AM
If he's still alive, he would run from prison and he would win the nomination.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: ChiComCat on February 22, 2021, 12:32:04 PM
The upside to running is that it would keep Gaetz/Hawley/Cotton from running.  I don't know how they could suck him off and run against him at the same time.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 22, 2021, 01:08:39 PM
Yeah. I would also like to believe that he would have no shot in the general election.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 22, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
GOP had many cross lines for Biden in 2020.  I imagine it will be even more if Trump is on the general ballot in 2024.  Capital storming videos will be on loop in 2024 during election adds. 

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 22, 2021, 01:44:33 PM
GOP had many cross lines for Biden in 2020.  I imagine it will be even more if Trump is on the general ballot in 2024. Capital storming videos will be on loop in 2024 during election adds.
Will those videos get more voters to reject Trumpism or more voters horned up to support Trump and Trump Toadies? Not sure I want to know the answer.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 22, 2021, 01:45:45 PM
I think those videos would increase turnout on both sides, probably more so on the democrats' side.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 22, 2021, 01:49:08 PM
Trump didn't pardon any of them either which pissed them off.  Think how crazy it would be if Proud Boys vote Dem because they are pissed Trump didn't give their buds a pardon
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 22, 2021, 01:52:38 PM
I would also add that Dems seem more organized than Pubs when it comes to voting and voting registration.  I imagine the Atlanta, GA template will be used moving forward for Dems.

Wow...and to think GA is now officially a battleground state.  2024 will be off the rails!


Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: MakeItRain on February 22, 2021, 03:03:16 PM
I think those videos would increase turnout on both sides, probably more so on the democrats' side.

As expected state legislatures across the country are making it very difficult to vote. Among the things they're trying to do here is remove voters off the roll if they miss a single general election. They want to bar county auditors from sending absentee ballot applications, not absentee ballots but an application to receive an absentee ballot. They want to make it a felony for county election officials to "not follow election laws" which is as nebulous as it sounds.

Thirty three states have introduced 165 bills this year to restrict voting access.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 24, 2021, 11:55:31 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: chum1 on February 26, 2021, 08:21:08 AM
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 26, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 26, 2021, 05:34:03 PM
?s=20
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: catastrophe on February 26, 2021, 09:24:53 PM
Walkaway
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: dal9 on February 26, 2021, 09:29:37 PM
Yeah. I would also like to believe that he would have no shot in the general election.

i was pretty sure about that last time too
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on February 27, 2021, 01:15:27 AM
Yeah. I would also like to believe that he would have no shot in the general election.

i was pretty sure about that last time too
Welp, you were right. He got his ass kicked.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on February 27, 2021, 05:31:42 PM
progress!

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on February 28, 2021, 03:16:46 PM
i assume that the cpac attendees skew towards florida residents, but i do think that of the obvious potential 2024 republican presidential candidates, desantis is the most authentically trump-like in tone and mannerism and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he is a strong contender for the nomination.


Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: star seed 7 on February 28, 2021, 03:33:11 PM
Yeah, he's texags favorite trump heir for sure
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 28, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
Did he give his speech yet?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 01, 2021, 01:14:50 PM
I’m hearing he didn’t whine about the lost election.  Pretty wise move
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2021, 01:38:58 PM
I’m hearing he didn’t whine about the lost election.  Pretty wise move

I caught about 15 minutes of it and the whole 15 minutes was whining about the lost election.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 01, 2021, 02:24:39 PM
I’m hearing he didn’t whine about the lost election.  Pretty wise move

I caught about 15 minutes of it and the whole 15 minutes was whining about the lost election.

This surprises me if true. He doesn't seem like a person that would constantly whine and complain about and not take any responsibility for things that happen to him.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2021, 02:25:42 PM
Yeah, I was shocked. I thought surely he would get up on the stage and talk policy. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 01, 2021, 03:49:14 PM
I think whining non-stop and complaining will not serve him well.  It is not the boot strappy life style the magas crave.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: cfbandyman on March 01, 2021, 03:50:53 PM
I think whining non-stop and complaining will not serve him well.  It is not the boot strappy life style the magas crave.

He should have railed about the lack of PTO for his fellow MAGAs, that would've moved the needle IMO
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 01, 2021, 03:51:30 PM
Yeah, they have always been known for their reason and rationality. I think this cpac might be the turning point where Trump starts to fall out of favor with the GOP.
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 05, 2021, 08:58:58 PM
?s=20


?s=20


Also, Mods, should the title of this tread be changed to just "The GOP"?
Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2021, 09:02:23 PM
lmao

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on March 06, 2021, 01:58:48 PM
hiring an all coms staff already paying off.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: sys on March 06, 2021, 04:40:55 PM
i bet he doesn't.

Title: Re: the post-trump gop
Post by: waks on March 06, 2021, 11:58:24 PM