Re. The stout thing, is the stoutness of the defense more about the fact that they're hard hitting which causes the offense to make more mistakes, that we're capable enough to take advantage of, and less about how many yards they give up? One thing I've noticed about the D, outside of how mean, borderline dirty, we are, is how well we tackle, especially in space. The secondary seem to all be good tacklers, I can't remember a K-State team, the last 15 years, that tackles this well.