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Lmao
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Classic mix-up re: the imam.

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Journalist persecution/heroism (lol, thread is re: journalist self-importance)
« Reply #181 on: January 14, 2021, 01:46:45 PM »
That explains the dearth of theological insight I’ve seen since following Pimpin4Paradise786

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Sports journalists are really fired up about other sports journalists and journalism right now.

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About what?
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Adam Schefter and Shams Charnia.

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About what?
This dude, to get a leg up on the competition, sends over stories he's about to publish and let's them fill in the blanks on what they want published with it.

https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1448313854874701830?s=20
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Sports journalists are really fired up about other sports journalists and journalism right now.

also came across this subgenre of sports journalist twitter. sports photog twitter is pretty angry at this buffalo bills media guy

https://twitter.com/jcfphotog/status/1447759430133555200?s=20

https://twitter.com/davidphotokc/status/1448027199655849986

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Yeah, that's absolutely a big No-No. Just like how you're not suppose to cheer in a courtroom or have a reaction.

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The Schefter stuff is a royal rumble. Lots of sports J’s were shitting on him (mostly @-less) and then darren rough ridin' rovell pushed back on them and now olbermann and many others are putting the boots to him.

https://twitter.com/keitholbermann/status/1448297422992691207

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Beating up schefter and rovell is too mainstream, so there’s a different J mob on shams.

https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1448280643662663684

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Sports journalists are really fired up about other sports journalists and journalism right now.

also came across this subgenre of sports journalist twitter. sports photog twitter is pretty angry at this buffalo bills media guy

https://twitter.com/jcfphotog/status/1447759430133555200?s=20

https://twitter.com/davidphotokc/status/1448027199655849986

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If we’re all going to make less than a living wage in this career then WE’RE GOING TO HAVE SOME GOD DAMN UNWRITTEN RULES ABOUT IT!

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Schefter is a sports reporter and not a real journalist.  His job is to build relationships by leaking information that is given to him by someone who wants it leaked.  He works for ESPN, which has billions of dollars tied up in the entity he is reporting on.  Of course he takes care of his sources and does crap like this.  Anyways, what real insight does Schefter provide other than "Player X wants to be traded" and "Player Y is signing with whatever team?"

Also, I'm sorry the unprofessional Bills photographer hurt so many people's feelings.

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Schefter is a sports reporter and not a real journalist.  His job is to build relationships by leaking information that is given to him by someone who wants it leaked.  He works for ESPN, which has billions of dollars tied up in the entity he is reporting on.  Of course he takes care of his sources and does crap like this.  Anyways, what real insight does Schefter provide other than "Player X wants to be traded" and "Player Y is signing with whatever team?"

Also, I'm sorry the unprofessional Bills photographer hurt so many people's feelings.

A reporter is a journalist. What the hell do you think journalism is if not reporting? You say "of course he takes care of his sources and does crap like this." This is not how reporters do their job, on top of it being the height of laziness, it isn't providing impartial information. The literal only worst way to cut a corner there would have been just to completely make up quotes.

Do you know what the story was about that he let oscar Allen write his story for? Do you know the backstory of Allen? I feel like your opinion is formed somewhat by your thought that this story was just breaking a trade. The story was about the lockout. There should have been actual journalism done there. The lockout had real life consequences for people outside the football players on the field. Schefter let "the man" set the narrative when they were trying to justify not paying people. I can't imagine not thinking that isn't a big deal.

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Also, no one gives a eff about the photographer. It's literally one dude complaining on twitter. That tweet had a whole 21 replies and 4 agreeing with the tweet. If I were to guess, that photographer works for the bills.

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Schefter is a sports reporter and not a real journalist.  His job is to build relationships by leaking information that is given to him by someone who wants it leaked.  He works for ESPN, which has billions of dollars tied up in the entity he is reporting on.  Of course he takes care of his sources and does crap like this.  Anyways, what real insight does Schefter provide other than "Player X wants to be traded" and "Player Y is signing with whatever team?"

Also, I'm sorry the unprofessional Bills photographer hurt so many people's feelings.

A reporter is a journalist. What the hell do you think journalism is if not reporting? You say "of course he takes care of his sources and does crap like this." This is not how reporters do their job, on top of it being the height of laziness, it isn't providing impartial information. The literal only worst way to cut a corner there would have been just to completely make up quotes.

Do you know what the story was about that he let oscar Allen write his story for? Do you know the backstory of Allen? I feel like your opinion is formed somewhat by your thought that this story was just breaking a trade. The story was about the lockout. There should have been actual journalism done there. The lockout had real life consequences for people outside the football players on the field. Schefter let "the man" set the narrative when they were trying to justify not paying people. I can't imagine not thinking that isn't a big deal.

My emphasis was on sports more than the difference between reporter and journalist.  I think people reporting on sports generally have wildly different journalistic standards than you would have reporting actual news.  I never considered that people took Schefter, again who works for ESPN, as a legitimate unbiased journalist/reporter and find it strange that people did/do.  If I want a realistic view of the lockout, ESPN is a pretty poor choice to find that information. 


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If we’re all going to make less than a living wage in this career then WE’RE GOING TO HAVE SOME GOD DAMN UNWRITTEN RULES ABOUT IT!
You take a lot of ethics classes and journalism law in J school.

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Here’s the LA Times story that started the recent schefter stuff.

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https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-10-12/nfl-jon-gruden-emails-washington-football-team

Several emails between Allen and journalists are part of the filing too. In one of them from July 2011, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter sent Allen the draft of an unpublished story that was published later the same day.

“Please let me know if you see anything that should be added, changed, tweaked,” Schefter wrote. “Thanks, Mr. Editor, for that and the trust. Plan to file this to espn about 6 am ….”

ESPN released the following statement in response to the correspondence: “Without sharing all the specifics of the reporter’s process for a story from 10 years ago during the NFL lockout, we believe that nothing is more important to Adam and ESPN than providing fans the most accurate, fair and complete story.”

It’s very lol predictable what is happening today because of an excerpt included in a story about many things one can see if they look at long-available court filings in a really stupid case about supposed defamation in an Indian publication.

As for the thing J’s are mad about today, I’d have to pull the case up and look at the whole email chain to know if schefter was being a stooge or being a snarky ass to someone who’d been difficult with him.