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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2020, 02:35:06 PM »
not good.

"can we really expect politicians to do the right thing if their voters are demanding them not to do it?"

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2020, 09:23:23 PM »
My God, I wasn't prepared for how 100% awful that dudes tweets are. Also I've literally been reading NBA stories since ESPN started a website and I've never heard of that dude.

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2020, 11:57:56 PM »
"can we really expect politicians to do the right thing if their voters are demanding them not to do it?"

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2020, 12:34:58 AM »



I mean, our president should be doing the same for this and hundreds of other cases that have been filmed in the last five days. At the very least governors and mayors should

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2020, 01:26:22 AM »
How in the eff did we miss this?

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2020, 09:09:12 AM »
Wow those guys are idiots

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2020, 09:09:55 AM »
How in the eff did we miss this?
That cop should be in jail for years
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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2020, 10:30:48 AM »

View from the cameraman assaulted in DC last night
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2020, 03:24:30 PM »
This dumb wench writes for the Washington Examiner


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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2020, 03:26:25 PM »
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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2020, 07:50:08 PM »

This account = this thread. The pinned tweet is a running tally of incidents.

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2020, 09:36:59 PM »


BTW this was 24 hours after Des Moines cops were doing that fake take a knee crap. The officers have generally been good here but the two days they have really gone crazy is when the protesters gathered at the state capitol building, which is what happened here.

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2020, 09:44:53 PM »
BREAKING!!!

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2020, 10:29:32 AM »
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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2020, 10:46:18 AM »
I don't know enough about journalism law to know why journalists shouldn't be arrested for doing exactly what other citizens are being arrested for

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2020, 10:48:19 AM »
I don't know enough about journalism law to know why journalists shouldn't be arrested for doing exactly what other citizens are being arrested for
And in this day and age where everyone's holding a camera phone with access to twitter, I don't really know that the "journalist"/"other citizens" distinction really even meaningfully exists.


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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2020, 11:55:25 AM »
I don't know enough about journalism law to know why journalists shouldn't be arrested for doing exactly what other citizens are being arrested for

No specific laws, of course the first amendment allows for freedom of speech along with freedom to assemble

I don't know enough about journalism law to know why journalists shouldn't be arrested for doing exactly what other citizens are being arrested for
And in this day and age where everyone's holding a camera phone with access to twitter, I don't really know that the "journalist"/"other citizens" distinction really even meaningfully exists.

He has a press pass, it's just another case of the NYPD acting first, asking questions somewhere else down the line, literally the opposite of what they should be doing. That journalist and the rest of the people those cops were chasing were not in the act of committing a crime. Detain first, ask questions later is exactly what's broken here.

I'll also point out that the NYPD should be questioned as to whether they are targeting media because of the scrutiny they have faced.

I'll also mention again that the police today are treating media much worse than the North Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War.

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2020, 12:25:04 PM »
I don't know enough about journalism law to know why journalists shouldn't be arrested for doing exactly what other citizens are being arrested for

No specific laws, of course the first amendment allows for freedom of speech along with freedom to assemble

I don't know enough about journalism law to know why journalists shouldn't be arrested for doing exactly what other citizens are being arrested for
And in this day and age where everyone's holding a camera phone with access to twitter, I don't really know that the "journalist"/"other citizens" distinction really even meaningfully exists.

He has a press pass, it's just another case of the NYPD acting first, asking questions somewhere else down the line, literally the opposite of what they should be doing. That journalist and the rest of the people those cops were chasing were not in the act of committing a crime. Detain first, ask questions later is exactly what's broken here.

I'll also point out that the NYPD should be questioned as to whether they are targeting media because of the scrutiny they have faced.

I'll also mention again that the police today are treating media much worse than the North Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War.
Yeah all I'm saying (really just wondering about -- haven't thought about it very much) is that using "I'm media!" as a distinct shield in 2020 doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  I'm not excusing what the cops did (to the media or anyone else) at all, I just don't know why a camera guy for CNN should have any more protection or freedom than some guy holding up a phone.


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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2020, 12:29:46 PM »
I'm more looking at it that if journalists shouldn't be harassed and beat up and arrested then all the other citizens shouldn't either

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Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2020, 12:32:42 PM »
I think at a bare minimum you should be entitled to a presumption you’re not any kind of a threat if you’re at a protest repping a major media outlet.

Should be much easier to prove a claim of excessive use of force if you’re a media member displaying credentials.

For rando dudes holding phones, cops would have a much easier time arguing they thought the person was about to attack or some BS like that.

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2020, 12:40:54 PM »
Who issues press credentials for gathering/protest/riot coverage?

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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2020, 02:04:10 PM »
Who issues press credentials for gathering/protest/riot coverage?
My understanding is that Kenny Lanaou issues press credentials for everything.


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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2020, 02:14:14 PM »
Who issues press credentials for gathering/protest/riot coverage?
My understanding is that Kenny Lanaou issues press credentials for everything.

I was thinking of exactly that when I asked. :lol:


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Re: Journalist persecution/heroism (spinoff from The riot thread)
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2020, 06:55:50 PM »