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Quote from: DQ12 on June 02, 2020, 04:05:48 PMOf course he would -- it's the classic "no true Scottsman" approach to any evidence suggesting that "communism" has been tried multiple times and the results haven't been great (to put it lightly). And certainly haven't eradicated the destitution and crime -- two things that have existed in every society ever.I get it, but I don't think you need to find an example of a communist country that has completely eliminated crime for his point to have some validity. How do our incarceration and crime rates compare to the rest of the world? What drives that?
Of course he would -- it's the classic "no true Scottsman" approach to any evidence suggesting that "communism" has been tried multiple times and the results haven't been great (to put it lightly). And certainly haven't eradicated the destitution and crime -- two things that have existed in every society ever.
https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1267931902763294721?s=20
Quote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 04:16:29 PMQuote from: DQ12 on June 02, 2020, 04:05:48 PMOf course he would -- it's the classic "no true Scottsman" approach to any evidence suggesting that "communism" has been tried multiple times and the results haven't been great (to put it lightly). And certainly haven't eradicated the destitution and crime -- two things that have existed in every society ever.I get it, but I don't think you need to find an example of a communist country that has completely eliminated crime for his point to have some validity. How do our incarceration and crime rates compare to the rest of the world? What drives that?Let me guess, poverty? If only it were that simple. But even if it were, the poor will be with us always (Jesus's words, not mine). We can't control outcomes.
We can, however, strive to guarantee equal protection under law.
Quote from: mocat on June 02, 2020, 04:36:06 PMhttps://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1267931902763294721?s=20https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1267933776157511681?s=20
https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/1267918269798850563
Quote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 03:42:22 PMhere's a different perspective from Boots Riley who is a full-on true proud communist and is pretty extreme even for me (thread):https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1266851333438500865I still enjoy reading his thoughtsIt’s becoming clear that a lot of non-black people who are upset about their station in life are trying to exploit this event for their own selfish reasons and it’s fuckn pathetic
here's a different perspective from Boots Riley who is a full-on true proud communist and is pretty extreme even for me (thread):https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1266851333438500865I still enjoy reading his thoughts
Quote from: kim carnes on June 02, 2020, 04:26:58 PMQuote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 03:42:22 PMhere's a different perspective from Boots Riley who is a full-on true proud communist and is pretty extreme even for me (thread):https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1266851333438500865I still enjoy reading his thoughtsIt’s becoming clear that a lot of non-black people who are upset about their station in life are trying to exploit this event for their own selfish reasons and it’s fuckn patheticThere are always usurpers. This is one of the more disgusting displays.
The disconnect that exists is when he implicitly argues capital C Communism=less poverty.
Quote from: DQ12 on June 02, 2020, 05:33:27 PMThe disconnect that exists is when he implicitly argues capital C Communism=less poverty. I think you're getting lost in the weeds
Quote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 05:38:21 PMQuote from: DQ12 on June 02, 2020, 05:33:27 PMThe disconnect that exists is when he implicitly argues capital C Communism=less poverty. I think you're getting lost in the weedsI think any novel force his argument could possibly have falls apart with barely any scrutiny.Without “Communism=less poverty,” all he’s saying is that police brutality wouldn’t happen as often if fewer people were poor, which, duh.
Quote from: nicname on June 02, 2020, 05:31:49 PMQuote from: kim carnes on June 02, 2020, 04:26:58 PMQuote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 03:42:22 PMhere's a different perspective from Boots Riley who is a full-on true proud communist and is pretty extreme even for me (thread):https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1266851333438500865I still enjoy reading his thoughtsIt’s becoming clear that a lot of non-black people who are upset about their station in life are trying to exploit this event for their own selfish reasons and it’s fuckn patheticThere are always usurpers. This is one of the more disgusting displays. who is the non-black person here? me?
Quote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 05:34:16 PMQuote from: nicname on June 02, 2020, 05:31:49 PMQuote from: kim carnes on June 02, 2020, 04:26:58 PMQuote from: michigancat on June 02, 2020, 03:42:22 PMhere's a different perspective from Boots Riley who is a full-on true proud communist and is pretty extreme even for me (thread):https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1266851333438500865I still enjoy reading his thoughtsIt’s becoming clear that a lot of non-black people who are upset about their station in life are trying to exploit this event for their own selfish reasons and it’s fuckn patheticThere are always usurpers. This is one of the more disgusting displays. who is the non-black person here? me?I’m not referring to posters on this board.
The police reaction to all of this kind of seems like they are staging their own violent protest against having to protect minorities.
The problem is phrases like "the whole system needs revamped" is such a vague statement that I think wood and rusty are probably imagining two different things.
Quote from: DQ12 on June 02, 2020, 01:12:56 PMThe problem is phrases like "the whole system needs revamped" is such a vague statement that I think wood and rusty are probably imagining two different things.https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/1267815281503744000https://twitter.com/marcushjohnson/status/1266882449021296640
Hell yeahhttps://twitter.com/Marissa_Jae/status/1267956666097709062