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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20325 on: January 06, 2022, 08:19:09 AM »
A year ago almost none of those people had access to a vaccine to help keep them out, today everybody has that option in the US and for whatever bonehead reason has refused to keep themselves out of there.  Absolutely mindblowing.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20326 on: January 06, 2022, 08:21:44 AM »
More Kansas hospitalized with COVID on 1/3/22 than 1/3/21:

https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/d157638.aspx?type=view
In all seriousness I wonder how many are hospitalized "with covid" vs "because of covid".

Sandstone probably has good knowledge of this but my understanding is that hospitals still have considerable incentive to report patients as having covid regardless of what they are being treated for due to reimbursements.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20327 on: January 06, 2022, 08:35:30 AM »
More Kansas hospitalized with COVID on 1/3/22 than 1/3/21:

https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/d157638.aspx?type=view
In all seriousness I wonder how many are hospitalized "with covid" vs "because of covid".

Sandstone probably has good knowledge of this but my understanding is that hospitals still have considerable incentive to report patients as having covid regardless of what they are being treated for due to reimbursements.

well they definitely require more time and attention even if they aren't hospitalized for covid

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20328 on: January 06, 2022, 08:47:02 AM »
More Kansas hospitalized with COVID on 1/3/22 than 1/3/21:

https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/d157638.aspx?type=view
In all seriousness I wonder how many are hospitalized "with covid" vs "because of covid".

Sandstone probably has good knowledge of this but my understanding is that hospitals still have considerable incentive to report patients as having covid regardless of what they are being treated for due to reimbursements.
The people we are seeing in the facility where I work are there BECAUSE OF COVID. I have no incentive to report them as having COVID. I don't know where people keep coming up with that - maybe the hospital has that incentive but I don't. These people are freaking sick. All the really sick ones are unvaxxed. Unlike last winter, there is no support from the tertiary hospitals so critical patients are staying in rural hospitals and we are doing the best we can for them here. Probably going to get worse before it gets better. Conference call with CMOs from KS tertiary hospitals yesterday (TL, DR: tons of workers out sick, capacity maxed out):

EDIT: I know this isn't going to change what the public thinks or does, just posting for catharsis.

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Koranda/status/1478784989890293776?s=20
« Last Edit: January 06, 2022, 08:52:39 AM by Sandstone Outcropping »

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20329 on: January 06, 2022, 08:53:28 AM »
Thanks, Biden!

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20330 on: January 06, 2022, 08:57:05 AM »
More Kansas hospitalized with COVID on 1/3/22 than 1/3/21:

https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/d157638.aspx?type=view
In all seriousness I wonder how many are hospitalized "with covid" vs "because of covid".

Sandstone probably has good knowledge of this but my understanding is that hospitals still have considerable incentive to report patients as having covid regardless of what they are being treated for due to reimbursements.
The people we are seeing in the facility where I work are there BECAUSE OF COVID. I have no incentive to report them as having COVID. I don't know where people keep coming up with that - maybe the hospital has that incentive but I don't. These people are freaking sick. All the really sick ones are unvaxxed. Unlike last winter, there is no support from the tertiary hospitals so critical patients are staying in rural hospitals and we are doing the best we can for them here. Probably going to get worse before it gets better. Conference call with CMOs from KS tertiary hospitals yesterday (TL, DR: tons of workers out sick, capacity maxed out):

EDIT: I know this isn't going to change what the public thinks or does, just posting for catharsis.

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Koranda/status/1478784989890293776?s=20

thanks for the insight, I feel terrible for you

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20331 on: January 06, 2022, 09:10:56 AM »
More Kansas hospitalized with COVID on 1/3/22 than 1/3/21:

https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/d157638.aspx?type=view
In all seriousness I wonder how many are hospitalized "with covid" vs "because of covid".

Sandstone probably has good knowledge of this but my understanding is that hospitals still have considerable incentive to report patients as having covid regardless of what they are being treated for due to reimbursements.
The people we are seeing in the facility where I work are there BECAUSE OF COVID. I have no incentive to report them as having COVID. I don't know where people keep coming up with that - maybe the hospital has that incentive but I don't. These people are freaking sick. All the really sick ones are unvaxxed. Unlike last winter, there is no support from the tertiary hospitals so critical patients are staying in rural hospitals and we are doing the best we can for them here. Probably going to get worse before it gets better. Conference call with CMOs from KS tertiary hospitals yesterday (TL, DR: tons of workers out sick, capacity maxed out):

EDIT: I know this isn't going to change what the public thinks or does, just posting for catharsis.

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Koranda/status/1478784989890293776?s=20

 hang in there

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20332 on: January 06, 2022, 09:11:12 AM »
More Kansas hospitalized with COVID on 1/3/22 than 1/3/21:

https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/d157638.aspx?type=view
In all seriousness I wonder how many are hospitalized "with covid" vs "because of covid".

Sandstone probably has good knowledge of this but my understanding is that hospitals still have considerable incentive to report patients as having covid regardless of what they are being treated for due to reimbursements.
The people we are seeing in the facility where I work are there BECAUSE OF COVID. I have no incentive to report them as having COVID. I don't know where people keep coming up with that - maybe the hospital has that incentive but I don't. These people are freaking sick. All the really sick ones are unvaxxed. Unlike last winter, there is no support from the tertiary hospitals so critical patients are staying in rural hospitals and we are doing the best we can for them here. Probably going to get worse before it gets better. Conference call with CMOs from KS tertiary hospitals yesterday (TL, DR: tons of workers out sick, capacity maxed out):

EDIT: I know this isn't going to change what the public thinks or does, just posting for catharsis.

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Koranda/status/1478784989890293776?s=20

thanks for the insight, I feel terrible for you
I appreciate that. I play a small role and I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me. Very proud of the team I'm part of. Kind of gets me when I see HCWs like nurses and RTs who have suffered severe health problems due to Covid or who are pregnant or over 65yo suiting up and going back to the bedside day after day to provide care. We will get through this eventually but I believe that a lot of the suffering has been avoidable. Just wish everyone who could get vaxxed would do so - don't really care what people do about masks, etc. It would prevent a lot of needless suffering. Again, not trying to change the public's mind about any of this. Just posting posting here b/c this is a pretty safe place for me to get stuff off of my chest.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20333 on: January 06, 2022, 09:19:22 AM »
I appreciate and feel for you sandstone

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20334 on: January 06, 2022, 09:38:40 AM »
Thanks, Biden!

Too bad his mandate is being held up in court.  Should have done it earlier!

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20335 on: January 06, 2022, 09:40:11 AM »
Unfortunately people that haven’t got a vaccine already will never get one. For some reason they will take basically anything once they get it though.  Hopefully the Pfizer therapeutic gets released soon and can keep the unvaccinated from making it to the hospitals as frequently.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20336 on: January 06, 2022, 10:05:31 AM »
Unfortunately people that haven’t got a vaccine already will never get one. For some reason they will take basically anything once they get it though.  Hopefully the Pfizer therapeutic gets released soon and can keep the unvaccinated from making it to the hospitals as frequently.

It's anecdotal but I know of an unvaxxed MAGA who dropped his wife off at the Covid icu and went straight to get his shot. (The wife died after 6 weeks on a vent).

People willing to take a Pfizer therapeutic but not a Pfizer vaccine is madness to me.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20337 on: January 06, 2022, 10:15:01 AM »
Unfortunately people that haven’t got a vaccine already will never get one. For some reason they will take basically anything once they get it though.  Hopefully the Pfizer therapeutic gets released soon and can keep the unvaccinated from making it to the hospitals as frequently.

It's anecdotal but I know of an unvaxxed MAGA who dropped his wife off at the Covid icu and went straight to get his shot. (The wife died after 6 weeks on a vent).

People willing to take a Pfizer therapeutic but not a Pfizer vaccine is madness to me.
Similar to the lifelong smokers/alcoholics/drug users I know that won't take a vaccine because you just don't know what they put in those things but treat their bodies like trashcans on the regular.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20338 on: January 06, 2022, 10:19:26 AM »
Unfortunately people that haven’t got a vaccine already will never get one. For some reason they will take basically anything once they get it though.  Hopefully the Pfizer therapeutic gets released soon and can keep the unvaccinated from making it to the hospitals as frequently.

It's anecdotal but I know of an unvaxxed MAGA who dropped his wife off at the Covid icu and went straight to get his shot. (The wife died after 6 weeks on a vent).

People willing to take a Pfizer therapeutic but not a Pfizer vaccine is madness to me.


Yea and zero hesitation on monoclonal antibodies.  I just want people to stop dying and hospitals to be normal again, if it’s by some weird mental gymnastics that Pfizer pill = good and Pfizer vax = bad then so be it.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20339 on: January 06, 2022, 12:17:51 PM »
Unfortunately people that haven’t got a vaccine already will never get one. For some reason they will take basically anything once they get it though.  Hopefully the Pfizer therapeutic gets released soon and can keep the unvaccinated from making it to the hospitals as frequently.

It's anecdotal but I know of an unvaxxed MAGA who dropped his wife off at the Covid icu and went straight to get his shot. (The wife died after 6 weeks on a vent).

People willing to take a Pfizer therapeutic but not a Pfizer vaccine is madness to me.
I think this happens a lot. Good buddy of mine got his ass kicked by covid, wife and kids were fine. He got vaxxed after he got better

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20340 on: January 06, 2022, 03:06:52 PM »
From my bud in Chicago. His wife is ER nurse. This stuff still sucks.

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200 of the 287 patients that are in the hospital aren't vaccinated. 40+ ICU beds taken all unvaccinated. She's had 2 patients die this week and has only worked 2 days.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20341 on: January 06, 2022, 03:11:44 PM »
roll up your sleeves!

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« Reply #20342 on: January 06, 2022, 03:22:54 PM »
Trumper dumper going to work

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« Reply #20343 on: January 06, 2022, 03:25:21 PM »
From my bud in Chicago. His wife is ER nurse. This stuff still sucks.

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200 of the 287 patients that are in the hospital aren't vaccinated. 40+ ICU beds taken all unvaccinated. She's had 2 patients die this week and has only worked 2 days.

Oh, well.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20344 on: January 06, 2022, 05:28:22 PM »
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20345 on: January 06, 2022, 06:18:53 PM »
i will never not love these.

https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert/status/1479113317503299587

What an unethical dick.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20346 on: January 06, 2022, 06:19:11 PM »
Eh. Ok.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20347 on: January 06, 2022, 06:34:58 PM »
i will never not love these.

https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert/status/1479113317503299587

What an unethical dick.

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Didn’t read the story huh
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20348 on: January 08, 2022, 08:34:17 AM »
gottlieb retweeted this so you know it's good

https://twitter.com/JReinerMD/status/1479464334300491781

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #20349 on: January 08, 2022, 09:54:40 AM »