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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19725 on: December 17, 2021, 02:45:35 PM »
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19726 on: December 17, 2021, 03:13:40 PM »
I think we can all agree that the solution is to have vaccinated and unvaccinated wings in hospitals. If the unvaccinated wing is full you can’t just hop over to the other side.

Maybe you can apply for an exemption if a doctor has advised you against getting vaccinated, but you would have to do that before getting COVID.

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« Reply #19727 on: December 17, 2021, 03:19:15 PM »
Just allow insurance companies to deny coverage for illnesses people didn't get vaccinated against, allowing for medical exceptions, and the problem will solve itself.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19728 on: December 17, 2021, 03:40:07 PM »
Just allow insurance companies to deny coverage for illnesses people didn't get vaccinated against, allowing for medical exceptions, and the problem will solve itself.

Yes.  This. 

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19729 on: December 17, 2021, 03:48:20 PM »
The problem is then that there are billions in unpaid medical bills, those people will just declare bankruptcy. Better to deny medical care but also obviously problematic there. Also what about kids whose pre ts are just MAGA chuds?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19730 on: December 17, 2021, 03:48:51 PM »
I think charging them exorbitant health insurance premiums for it is the best route.

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CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19731 on: December 17, 2021, 03:53:36 PM »
I think charging them exorbitant health insurance premiums for it is the best route.
Best route long term, but my solution is better for immediate concerns because you should be able to get bipartisan support to separate vaxxed and unvaxxed beds since anti-vaxxers are just as leery of the vaxxed.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19732 on: December 17, 2021, 03:59:36 PM »
I think charging them exorbitant health insurance premiums for it is the best route.
Best route long term, but my solution is better for immediate concerns because you should be able to get bipartisan support to separate vaxxed and unvaxxed beds since anti-vaxxers are just as leery of the vaxxed.

The COVID wing is already the unvaxxed wing. Just send unvaccinated people to that wing, regardless if they come in with COVID or not.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19733 on: December 17, 2021, 04:05:53 PM »
Can Omicron just please burn this thing to the ground in the next four weeks? Just infect everyone who is still susceptible and get us back to a permanent June 2021 situation.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19734 on: December 17, 2021, 04:06:42 PM »
It’s never going back to normal bud
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19736 on: December 17, 2021, 04:27:00 PM »
What's going on with the White Trash variant?
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19737 on: December 17, 2021, 04:30:26 PM »
Can Omicron just please burn this thing to the ground in the next four weeks? Just infect everyone who is still susceptible and get us back to a permanent June 2021 situation.

It has been normal everywhere in the US for several months and will continue to be normal for most of the country.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19738 on: December 17, 2021, 04:40:06 PM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/where-i-live-no-one-cares-about-covid/620958/

Good follow-up article:
https://slate.com/technology/2021/12/covid-denial-atlantic-rural-america-vaccines.html

I did convince one person to get their first Moderna and one to get boosted today. Felt good. Can confirm that delta is quite successfully scouring all the nooks and crannies for the unvaxxed.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19739 on: December 17, 2021, 04:45:22 PM »
I think charging them exorbitant health insurance premiums for it is the best route.
Best route long term, but my solution is better for immediate concerns because you should be able to get bipartisan support to separate vaxxed and unvaxxed beds since anti-vaxxers are just as leery of the vaxxed.

They actually aren't.  They would never go for this.  They will demand equal access to healthcare

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19740 on: December 17, 2021, 04:50:12 PM »
It would be equal though, just separate.

Same number of beds would be fine with me.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19741 on: December 17, 2021, 05:19:17 PM »
Here's what I think Biden should do:

-Clear booster messaging, make it clear every adult gets a booster... Include tv ads, billboards, prime time tv speeches, etc
-Bring back national guard-run vax sites where anyone has trouble scheduling
-Ramp up rapid test production and make sure every person in the country gets one a day. Mailed them to every residence in the US. Psaki mocked a reporter for suggesting this and she was wrong. (This is probably most important AND difficult)

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19742 on: December 17, 2021, 05:26:52 PM »
Here's what I think Biden should do:

-Clear booster messaging, make it clear every adult gets a booster... Include tv ads, billboards, prime time tv speeches, etc
-Bring back national guard-run vax sites where anyone has trouble scheduling
-Ramp up rapid test production and make sure every person in the country gets one a day. Mailed them to every residence in the US. Psaki mocked a reporter for suggesting this and she was wrong. (This is probably most important AND difficult)

Add allow other countries to manufacture and distribute the same vaccines (not sure if he has the power to do that).

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19743 on: December 17, 2021, 05:52:36 PM »
-Ramp up rapid test production and make sure every person in the country gets one a day. Mailed them to every residence in the US. Psaki mocked a reporter for suggesting this and she was wrong. (This is probably most important AND difficult)

she was idiotic to mock the suggestion, but i don't think it's a great way to distribute tests.  very wasteful.


better would be for the federal govt to subsidize the price and make them available through normal retail outlets for a dollar or two.  as well as make them available for free by request through the mail and at govt and/or health care outlets (like hospitals, schools, post offices, public libraries, city halls, etc)

but you're right that the more important part is ramping up production.  my understanding is that they are in short supply even with basically no effort being made to distribute them, so even if we wanted to improve distribution, we don't have the tests available to do so.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19744 on: December 17, 2021, 05:56:50 PM »
It's going to be wasteful but people won't put the effort in for two dollar tests at Walgreens. I'd start sending everyone a week's supply and then by request.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19745 on: December 17, 2021, 05:58:29 PM »
I'd start sending everyone a week's supply and then by request.

yeah, that could work.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19746 on: December 17, 2021, 06:03:04 PM »
As long as we agree that charging $25 at a store and having it reimbursed through your health insurance is a dumb rough ridin' idea.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19747 on: December 17, 2021, 06:09:46 PM »
As long as we agree that charging $25 at a store and having it reimbursed through your health insurance is a dumb rough ridin' idea.

i don't know why they cost so much ($10-15 each, $25 is for a two pack), but having it reimbursed through your health insurance is the stupidest thing imaginable.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #19749 on: December 17, 2021, 09:48:49 PM »
Those people are so stupid
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