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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13775 on: January 26, 2021, 08:32:55 AM »
25MM people have got it, how many do we need to reach herd immunity? I’m reading somewhere around 85% of population.   So 280 need to be immune to it 25 have been vaxxed, maybe 20 have got the actual virus and will have immunity so that leaves like 230 or so that need to get the shot. 2MM doses a day for 230MM people is 115 days.  If we started hitting 2MM tomorrow it would be end of May to reach our goal.

I've seen estimates of 100M have gotten the virus.  There are 25M confirmed.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13776 on: January 26, 2021, 08:40:44 AM »
SD, how many times did you and the Meade Maulers beat up those Panzy's from Protection KS?

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/960354929/in-tiny-kansas-town-pandemic-skeptics-abound-amid-false-information-and-politics

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13777 on: January 26, 2021, 08:51:18 AM »
SD, how many times did you and the Meade Maulers beat up those Panzy's from Protection KS?

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/960354929/in-tiny-kansas-town-pandemic-skeptics-abound-amid-false-information-and-politics
Articles about all the ways Kansas gets mushed by COVID are becoming their own genre in the national press.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13778 on: January 26, 2021, 09:06:15 AM »
the tracking chip thing is just still so amazing....

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13779 on: January 26, 2021, 09:14:17 AM »
25MM people have got it, how many do we need to reach herd immunity? I’m reading somewhere around 85% of population.   So 280 need to be immune to it 25 have been vaxxed, maybe 20 have got the actual virus and will have immunity so that leaves like 230 or so that need to get the shot. 2MM doses a day for 230MM people is 115 days.  If we started hitting 2MM tomorrow it would be end of May to reach our goal.

I've seen estimates of 100M have gotten the virus.  There are 25M confirmed.

Damn that changes the equation significantly
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13780 on: January 26, 2021, 09:19:20 AM »
25MM people have got it, how many do we need to reach herd immunity? I’m reading somewhere around 85% of population.   So 280 need to be immune to it 25 have been vaxxed, maybe 20 have got the actual virus and will have immunity so that leaves like 230 or so that need to get the shot. 2MM doses a day for 230MM people is 115 days.  If we started hitting 2MM tomorrow it would be end of May to reach our goal.

I've seen estimates of 100M have gotten the virus.  There are 25M confirmed.

Damn that changes the equation significantly

https://covid19-projections.com/infections/us

This has estimates on infections and reports the number vaccinated.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13781 on: January 26, 2021, 09:22:18 AM »
You can't just add vaccinations to the total of estimated infected. There will end up being a lot of overlap between the people who were infected but never tested and those who get the vaccine.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13782 on: January 26, 2021, 09:27:55 AM »
And a shitload of healthcare workers that got COVID are also getting vaxxed
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13783 on: January 26, 2021, 09:52:18 AM »
You can't just add vaccinations to the total of estimated infected. There will end up being a lot of overlap between the people who were infected but never tested and those who get the vaccine.

If it’s an overlap of 50% that’s still 50MM people and speeds up the date of hers immunity a full month
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13784 on: January 26, 2021, 09:55:55 AM »
You can't just add vaccinations to the total of estimated infected. There will end up being a lot of overlap between the people who were infected but never tested and those who get the vaccine.

If it’s an overlap of 50% that’s still 50MM people and speeds up the date of hers immunity a full month

If 85% need vaccinated for herd immunity, I would expect the overlap to be about 85%.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13785 on: January 26, 2021, 10:01:34 AM »
You can't just add vaccinations to the total of estimated infected. There will end up being a lot of overlap between the people who were infected but never tested and those who get the vaccine.

If it’s an overlap of 50% that’s still 50MM people and speeds up the date of hers immunity a full month

If 85% need vaccinated for herd immunity, I would expect the overlap to be about 85%.

The overlap in terms of the number of vaccinated that have had COVID would be the percentage of the population that has had COVID.  So right now the overlap would be something like 25-35%.  I also think that the likelihood of getting a vaccine and having had COVID are negatively correlated, so the overlap percentage would be lower than the percentage of the population that has been infected.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13786 on: January 26, 2021, 10:14:18 AM »
I'm just gonna wait till the confirmed cases are low and not make any assumptions based on this math. Definitely won't be making plans based on herd immunity estimates

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13787 on: January 26, 2021, 10:15:38 AM »
You can't just add vaccinations to the total of estimated infected. There will end up being a lot of overlap between the people who were infected but never tested and those who get the vaccine.

If it’s an overlap of 50% that’s still 50MM people and speeds up the date of hers immunity a full month

If 85% need vaccinated for herd immunity, I would expect the overlap to be about 85%.

The overlap in terms of the number of vaccinated that have had COVID would be the percentage of the population that has had COVID.  So right now the overlap would be something like 25-35%.  I also think that the likelihood of getting a vaccine and having had COVID are negatively correlated, so the overlap percentage would be lower than the percentage of the population that has been infected.

I was referring to the percentage of people who have had COVID and will also get the vaccine. I expect it to be about the same percentage as the total population that gets the vaccine. So if 100 million people have already had the virus and 85% of the total population gets the vaccine, I would expect about 85 million people to get vaccinated that have already had the virus. I have seen nothing telling people who have already had the virus to not get the vaccine, only to wait a few months before getting it. Also, if 100 million people have already had the virus, then about 75 million of them are unaware of that fact, so it would be completely irrelevant to whether or not they get vaccinated.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13788 on: January 26, 2021, 10:22:36 AM »
You can't just add vaccinations to the total of estimated infected. There will end up being a lot of overlap between the people who were infected but never tested and those who get the vaccine.

If it’s an overlap of 50% that’s still 50MM people and speeds up the date of hers immunity a full month

If 85% need vaccinated for herd immunity, I would expect the overlap to be about 85%.

The overlap in terms of the number of vaccinated that have had COVID would be the percentage of the population that has had COVID.  So right now the overlap would be something like 25-35%.  I also think that the likelihood of getting a vaccine and having had COVID are negatively correlated, so the overlap percentage would be lower than the percentage of the population that has been infected.

I was referring to the percentage of people who have had COVID and will also get the vaccine. I expect it to be about the same percentage as the total population that gets the vaccine. So if 100 million people have already had the virus and 85% of the total population gets the vaccine, I would expect about 85 million people to get vaccinated that have already had the virus. I have seen nothing telling people who have already had the virus to not get the vaccine, only to wait a few months before getting it. Also, if 100 million people have already had the virus, then about 75 million of them are unaware of that fact, so it would be completely irrelevant to whether or not they get vaccinated.

Ok.  We're just arguing two sides of the same coin.

Thinking that the overlap is a lower percentage doesn't have to do with one's knowledge of whether they have had COVID or not.  It has to do with the correlation of the likelihood of having contracted COVID with the likelihood of being willing to get a vaccine.  I think that people who have contracted COVID as a population will have a lower propensity (independent of the knowledge of their status) to be willing to get the vaccine.  Those that are unwilling to get the vaccine probably undertook more "risky" behaviors and were thus more likely to have COVID.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13789 on: January 26, 2021, 10:41:57 AM »
This is very accurate... anti maskers = anti vaxers

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13790 on: January 26, 2021, 11:13:39 AM »
SD, how many times did you and the Meade Maulers beat up those Panzy's from Protection KS?

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/960354929/in-tiny-kansas-town-pandemic-skeptics-abound-amid-false-information-and-politics
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13791 on: January 26, 2021, 03:25:31 PM »
If 85% need vaccinated for herd immunity, I would expect the overlap to be about 85%.

we have a pretty convincing pattern indicating that there is pronounced seasonality to how this virus spreads, so i expect we'll be seeing the infection rate dwindle to a trickle by mid-spring or so with the combination of population immunity and seasonality.

should have all summer to vaccinate in prep for the coming winter.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13793 on: January 26, 2021, 03:46:04 PM »
so, I don't recall flu season easing as the weather gets colder and crappier...

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13794 on: January 26, 2021, 04:08:33 PM »
100MM Americans have already had covid? Yeah no I don't think that's accurate

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13795 on: January 26, 2021, 04:21:55 PM »
I saw a tweet earlier that Missouri has only jabbed half their doses and is also last in first jabbings
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« Reply #13796 on: January 26, 2021, 04:27:29 PM »
100MM Americans have already had covid? Yeah no I don't think that's accurate

80 is the better estimate, but 100 is possible.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13797 on: January 26, 2021, 04:47:00 PM »
Ya. Best estimate sits at 25%.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13798 on: January 26, 2021, 06:28:32 PM »
How long are these vaccines good for
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #13799 on: January 26, 2021, 06:30:46 PM »
Probably have to get chipped every year with the new variants like the normal flu
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