CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[michigancat]

interesting data in this thread. Didn't realize this about ICU's

https://twitter.com/chrischirp/status/1350416441498079234

[sonofdaxjones]

My daughter works at the Brody School of Medicine at ECU and got round one of the chip last week.  No issues.

She works in a underserved communities program.   So they’re out in the field a lot. 

[sonofdaxjones]

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Scotty is inextricably tied at the hip of Big Pharma and has been from day one.  So his constant fear mongering gets old. 

He had to recuse himself multiple times during his time at the FDA because of his long term ties to major pharmaceutical companies.

[Phil Titola]

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I think we need better tools. Where are the treatments? Better non medical intervention methods? People stop doing what we are advised now because they don't see it as working based on the data.

[Phil Titola]

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Scotty is inextricably tied at the hip of Big Pharma and has been from day one.  So his constant fear mongering gets old. 

He had to recuse himself multiple times during his time at the FDA because of his long term ties to major pharmaceutical companies.

Trump swamper huh? Shocker

[Dugout DickStone]

Welp, time to start smoking.

[michigancat]

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I think we need better tools. Where are the treatments? Better non medical intervention methods? People stop doing what we are advised now because they don't see it as working based on the data.

People already aren't doing what they're advised to do. Like no one does

[Dugout DickStone]

My 90+ grandparents in meadowlark get their second jab next week I thought Kansas was in way worse shape than that, so I was impressed.

Yeah Meadowlark probably gets some favorable treatment. 

[Phil Titola]

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I think we need better tools. Where are the treatments? Better non medical intervention methods? People stop doing what we are advised now because they don't see it as working based on the data.

People already aren't doing what they're advised to do. Like no one does

I don't see that in my circles. Everybody I know is put away alone  and getting super effing antsy.

I don't know how I would even be able to judge that nobody is doing what they say to do except I see everybody in masks.

Hindsight wonder what would have become of our situation if we told everybody to mask up in March?

[Dugout DickStone]

Every bar/restaurant in KC had a wait time yesterday at about 2.  Not sure where your people are hangin Phil but there is virtually no lockdown in KC

[Phil Titola]

Every bar/restaurant in KC had a wait time yesterday at about 2.  Not sure where your people are hangin Phil but there is virtually no lockdown in KC

Yes there were a lot of people out for restaurant week at reduced capacity restaurants.

To say nobody is doing anything though based on that? Okay.

[michigancat]

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I think we need better tools. Where are the treatments? Better non medical intervention methods? People stop doing what we are advised now because they don't see it as working based on the data.

People already aren't doing what they're advised to do. Like no one does

I don't see that in my circles. Everybody I know is put away alone  and getting super effing antsy.

I don't know how I would even be able to judge that nobody is doing what they say to do except I see everybody in masks.

Hindsight wonder what would have become of our situation if we told everybody to mask up in March?

Yeah I guess mask wearing is one thing a lot of folks are doing but that pales in comparison to limiting family gatherings. I'm guessing a lot of your circle tells you what they think you want to hear and you can tell people aren't doing what they should because as stone said all the restaurants are open which is really a signal to do whatever the heck you want.

[michigancat]

And Phil, I didn't literally mean 100% of people aren't following guidelines.

[catastrophe]

Not sure if this has been shared yet but it convinced me to up my mask game. There are tons of KN95s on Amazon.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/01/why-arent-we-wearing-better-masks/617656/

[Dugout DickStone]

Every bar/restaurant in KC had a wait time yesterday at about 2.  Not sure where your people are hangin Phil but there is virtually no lockdown in KC

Yes there were a lot of people out for restaurant week at reduced capacity restaurants.

To say nobody is doing anything though based on that? Okay.

I didn't say that.  I am saying there is no lockdown.  I went to the Legends (shame yourself thread) and there was pre-covid Christmas level traffic and crowds.  I left

[Phil Titola]

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I think we need better tools. Where are the treatments? Better non medical intervention methods? People stop doing what we are advised now because they don't see it as working based on the data.

People already aren't doing what they're advised to do. Like no one does

I don't see that in my circles. Everybody I know is put away alone  and getting super effing antsy.

I don't know how I would even be able to judge that nobody is doing what they say to do except I see everybody in masks.

Hindsight wonder what would have become of our situation if we told everybody to mask up in March?

Yeah I guess mask wearing is one thing a lot of folks are doing but that pales in comparison to limiting family gatherings. I'm guessing a lot of your circle tells you what they think you want to hear and you can tell people aren't doing what they should because as stone said all the restaurants are open which is really a signal to do whatever the heck you want.

No my reference to my circles is that's all I can go off of to judge behavior. How can you opine that nobody is doing anything except by using the the knowledge of the people you know? Because a restaurant at 50% capacity is full on a Saturday night? Okay. Maybe those are all chipped healthcare workers?

My real point was we need better guidance for people as this same drumbeat isn't getting through.  Which I guess goes to your point of nobody doing anything.

[Phil Titola]

And Phil, I didn't literally mean 100% of people aren't following guidelines.

I should learn to take everyone seriously not literally. My president taught me that.

[Phil Titola]

Every bar/restaurant in KC had a wait time yesterday at about 2.  Not sure where your people are hangin Phil but there is virtually no lockdown in KC

Yes there were a lot of people out for restaurant week at reduced capacity restaurants.

To say nobody is doing anything though based on that? Okay.

I didn't say that.  I am saying there is no lockdown.  I went to the Legends (shame yourself thread) and there was pre-covid Christmas level traffic and crowds.  I left

Well given we don't have lockdowns in place I don't think that's what I was saying is happening. People are wearing masks, distances being respected, etc. We have to figure something else out because saying "world stay home for 15 months" isn't sustainable.

[Dugout DickStone]

There isn't world "stay home" though.  I don't think we have a real disagreement bro. The majority of folks I know are going to work everyday.  Masked up, only 2-3 on an elevator, etc.  But they going.  8-5.  The whipped coffee/bread making/my counter is my desk is done.  At least in my circle. 

[Phil Titola]

There isn't world "stay home" though.  I don't think we have a real disagreement bro. The majority of folks I know are going to work everyday.  Masked up, only 2-3 on an elevator, etc.  But they going.  8-5.  The whipped coffee/bread making/my counter is my desk is done.  At least in my circle.

Yeah I think we are too. The same mantra from last March isn't working. We need better messaging AND better treatments and advice for people.

[Trim]

Any part of a plan that relies on americans to do the right thing should be presumed to fail. I’d put no resources into those parts of a plan at this point and reallocate those resources to 24/7 chip’n.

[michigancat]

No my reference to my circles is that's all I can go off of to judge behavior. How can you opine that nobody is doing anything except by using the the knowledge of the people you know? Because a restaurant at 50% capacity is full on a Saturday night? Okay. Maybe those are all chipped healthcare workers?

I literally don't know anyone personally who's been doing everything they should be doing (including myself). People take it seriously but still have a party or go visit grandma for christmas or have a bubble but also have a second bubble that they try not to talk about with the first bubble or travel to Montana right when they're peaking and come straight back to my gym or any number of things.

My real point was we need better guidance for people as this same drumbeat isn't getting through.  Which I guess goes to your point of nobody doing anything.

oh yeah the guidance is terrible, but I think everyone knows what they should (or perhaps could) be doing and aren't doing it and the leaders don't want to tell people to do it because Ted Cruz will say you want to cancel Christmas. Also because it's really hard!

[Phil Titola]

I literally don't know anyone personally who's been doing everything they should be doing (including myself).

We have a crap plan then obviously.

[Dugout DickStone]

The "side bubble" is absolutely a thing and no one really talks about.

[michigancat]

I literally don't know anyone personally who's been doing everything they should be doing (including myself).

We have a crap plan then obviously.

I don't think a better "plan" (whatever that might be) would make a difference at this point. The virus is out of control, we know ways to get it under control, but American's aren't willing to do what is required to get it under control. Like trim said, just jab as many chips as quickly as possible and pray that enough people do enough to keep the new variant from overloading hospitals.