Huh. That seems pretty arbitrary so long as the other measures are being taken. I can understand why bars/restaurants are throwing fits about that.
I pretty much agree but I think indoor dining should be shut down altogether and the bars and restaurants and their employees should be given money. This absolves the city/any other jurisdiction from having to provide any sort of support to the businesses but also lets them act like they're doing something.
I don't know what other tools KC has at their disposal until there's a vaccine.
Yeah that's at least consistent. I don't see how the cost benefit calculus works out if we're letting people eat and drink indoors all day long but then shut things down at night. The Blue Line (KC hockey bar) filed a lawsuit today in which they said that 40 percent of their business comes between 10 pm and 3 am. Seems like a big price to pay for only a marginal benefit public health-wise.
Following your logic they shouldn’t have to close at 3 am either bc it’s arbitrary
3 am is arbitrary, but at least businesses understood that and had that expectation.
In other words, they don't "lose 40% of their revenue" (and need to fire staff, etc.) by closing at 3 am.
Who determined it's a marginal benefit?
If you're open from 11am-10pm under certain circumstances, I just don't see why also being open from 10pm-3am under those same circumstances would present any additional significant risk. If the rules are being followed/enforced, what's the difference?
So you don't remember Aggieville bars being different from 11a-10p and 10-2am?
It sucks bars are losing revenue. Many industries and people are with these restrictions.
Wear masks, make people sit at tables, limit capacity. Aggieville 10-2 am would look different regardless.
even if the "rules" are followed people will be talking louder and more often from being drunk and not eating and therefore more likely to spread. I think dlew has been diagnosed with a good ol' case of willful ignorance
People talk louder when they're not eating?
Listen, I'm not saying it's safe to drink at bars, I'm saying the idea that "it becomes significantly less safe for people to drink at bars after 10 pm" doesn't make sense to me. If we say it's permissibly safe for 60 people to eat/drink in a bar all day long with the understanding that staff is required to enforce the rules, it doesn't follow to me that night time makes that significantly more dangerous.
If we're trusting bars/restaurants to enforce the rules on busy NFL sunday afternoons, then why not Friday at midnight?