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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9700 on: August 31, 2020, 08:45:11 AM »
Sure, two million Americans would die. But what you're failing to understand is that the strategy didn't necessarily fail in Sweden.

No one said unrestricted movement and gathering Chum.

But you don't put one of the largest cities on earth on full lockdown immediately after telling everyone to ignore the President and get out there and party either.


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9701 on: August 31, 2020, 09:33:46 AM »
"Pandemic Advisor"

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1300416019530473473
Honestly should have done that in April/May if we were gonna do it. I don't see California (or a lot of major cities) fully opening until there's a vaccine or cheap mass rapid testing, especially if it's a hand picked Trump guy advocating for it.

Plus I'm guessing these clowns don't come up with a real plan anyway beyond telling everyone to open up, blue states refusing, and Trump blaming the Dem governors for not opening.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9702 on: August 31, 2020, 09:57:36 AM »
"Pandemic Advisor"

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1300416019530473473
Honestly should have done that in April/May if we were gonna do it. I don't see California (or a lot of major cities) fully opening until there's a vaccine or cheap mass rapid testing, especially if it's a hand picked Trump guy advocating for it.

Plus I'm guessing these clowns don't come up with a real plan anyway beyond telling everyone to open up, blue states refusing, and Trump blaming the Dem governors for not opening.

Delaying this strategy till we did got closer to therapeutics and better testing processes like we are seeing now isn't a bad idea.  You are right though this strategy doesn't smell like a strategy at all.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9703 on: August 31, 2020, 09:58:34 AM »
Dem governors should be blamed for not re-opening sooner.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9704 on: August 31, 2020, 10:07:03 AM »
Dem governors should be blamed for not re-opening sooner.

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Tell us more.  Did they not follow the guidelines laid out by the president's own reopening gating guidelines?  Are any republican governors guilty or is this a purely partisan opinion again from you?

I even saw Chris Christie LOL at this "blame dem leaders" stance.  Woof.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9705 on: August 31, 2020, 10:09:54 AM »
Dem governors should be blamed for not re-opening sooner.

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Tell us more.  Did they not follow the guidelines laid out by the president's own reopening gating guidelines?  Are any republican governors guilty or is this a purely partisan opinion again from you?

I even say Chris Christie LOL at this "blame dem leaders" stance.  Woof.

Dem Gubs control the lionshare of high mortality states, but you guys are so insane you now attempt to herald the Grandma Killers as the heroes.

Now as these states emerges, insta-spikes, waves that could have already been passed through by now.




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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9706 on: August 31, 2020, 10:11:16 AM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9707 on: August 31, 2020, 10:12:48 AM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.

BidenVoter.7 pops in with another post based on his TexAgs and InfoWars extreme fandom.

Please ignore.


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« Reply #9708 on: August 31, 2020, 10:13:03 AM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.

that's the only reason every other country has kept their deaths so low then?  To try and make Trump look bad?  What a bunch of jerks!

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« Reply #9709 on: August 31, 2020, 10:13:26 AM »
Dem governors should be blamed for not re-opening sooner.

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We have a Republican gov who didn't do crap now little ol rural Iowa is the #1 hot spot in the country. Who would have thought that 5 months of blaming this on meat packing plant workers would backfire.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9710 on: August 31, 2020, 10:16:29 AM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.

that's the only reason every other country has kept their deaths so low then?  To try and make Trump look bad?  What a bunch of jerks!

Thanks to the Grandma Killers and nearly 3 co-morbidities in 94% of the Covid-19 deaths the U.S. has a high mortality rate.   Sadly a Dem Mayor told the nations largest city to go party and then locked them down immediately after and then the Governor (now trying to cover it up) created nursing homes of death.




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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9711 on: August 31, 2020, 10:21:19 AM »
Dem governors should be blamed for not re-opening sooner.

100%

We have a Republican gov who didn't do crap now little ol rural Iowa is the #1 hot spot in the country. Who would have thought that 5 months of blaming this on meat packing plant workers would backfire.

look at the top 10 worst states per capita though


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9712 on: August 31, 2020, 10:22:45 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/28/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

I can't remember and won't go back and look like some of the hyper-anal derps on here.

But didn't the resident CoronaBro's almost completely dismiss the notion of various strains/viral loads?

Very weird takes from the weirdos as I recall.


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9713 on: August 31, 2020, 10:27:44 AM »
Dem governors should be blamed for not re-opening sooner.

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We have a Republican gov who didn't do crap now little ol rural Iowa is the #1 hot spot in the country. Who would have thought that 5 months of blaming this on meat packing plant workers would backfire.

look at the top 10 worst states per capita though



I give the sunbelt states a complete pass, because we're over run with  vacationing Northerners.

As an aside, tens of thousands of wealthy NYC'ers are holed up in long term rentals or their 2nd homes up and down to the Eastern seaboard and beyond.   Friends own a Jersey shore seasonal business and it's going gang busters, every house and hotel is jammed, all time record occupancy rates, people are not going back to the city.








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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9714 on: August 31, 2020, 10:31:34 AM »
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By Natalie Rubio-Licht – Contributing writer
54 minutes ago

Dr. Deborah Fuller, professor of microbiology at the University of Washington, has worked on a vaccine to combat the coronavirus since January. Fuller and her team at UW Medicine have created an RNA vaccine that has the potential to be more effective and cost efficient — requiring minimal refrigeration and fewer doses. By working with HDT Bio Corp., Fuller hopes to start Phase 1 clinical trials at the end of the summer, using 50 volunteers to test dose size and safety, she said.

Can you give me an overview of the progress that you have made on your vaccine research?

Our RNA vaccine that we designed is actually different from (U.S. vaccine developer) Moderna’s. There are two components of RNA vaccines that are very important. Ours differ in both of those components. First of all, the RNA is different in that we made it into a replicating RNA vaccine. Once (RNA) gets to the cell and starts to replicate itself, it makes more copies of the code, so you make more vaccine proteins and get a higher, stronger immune response.

We’re in collaboration with a biotech company in Seattle called HDT Bio, who manufactures a different type of nanocarrier where the RNA goes outside instead of having to be put on the inside (of the nanocarrier). That allowed us to actually manufacture the RNA vaccine and the nanocarrier separately and store them long term.

In terms of funding and staff, what was the process of getting this vaccine research started and continuing it amid the pandemic?

I’ve been working in nucleic acid vaccines for all of my career. When we first started working on it, we had already envisioned and realized their potential as a rapid response technology for future pandemics. We already had funding from the National Institutes of Health for developing some of our platforms for a potential future influenza pandemic, because you always have flu pandemics.

When Covid-19 came out, it was very simple for us to pivot very quickly and switch from influenza to replace and all that. We already had the people in place with the expertise and skills and knowledge to quickly make a vaccine. The biggest challenge when we first got started was actually to find that funding. I had to get approval from the National Institutes of Health to do an emergency reallocation of some of our funding. That allowed us to get started right away in January.

How did you get started developing your model?

Right away in January when the sequence for the SARS-CoV-2 virus was published, that allowed us to immediately start to make vaccines. Nucleic acid vaccines like RNA and DNA have that advantage over other types of vaccines because you don’t need the pathogen — all you need is a sequence for the pathogen, then you can make your vaccine.

Once we saw that they worked, we went into a preclinical non-human primate model. ... We knew if we could get the vaccine to work well in non-human primates, that would be a very good sign for its potential to be used in humans. We started immunizing them in the spring, and after a single immunization, we were able to induce levels of antibodies that have been shown in other studies to be sufficient to provide protection (from the virus).

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« Reply #9715 on: August 31, 2020, 10:32:28 AM »
Of course you give them a pass.  I mean they aren't in charge of their resident's health because of tourism.  No other state has tourism.  Especially CA and NY. 


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9716 on: August 31, 2020, 10:35:17 AM »
I give the sunbelt states a complete pass, because we're over run with  vacationing Northerners.

I need to see these northerners vacation'n in alabama.  My current point of reference is mtv floribama shore.

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« Reply #9718 on: August 31, 2020, 11:25:52 AM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.

that's the only reason every other country has kept their deaths so low then?  To try and make Trump look bad?  What a bunch of jerks!

Thanks to the Grandma Killers and nearly 3 co-morbidities in 94% of the Covid-19 deaths the U.S. has a high mortality rate.   Sadly a Dem Mayor told the nations largest city to go party and then locked them down immediately after and then the Governor (now trying to cover it up) created nursing homes of death.

Citing Gateway Pundit now, are we?

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« Reply #9719 on: August 31, 2020, 11:26:55 AM »

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« Reply #9720 on: August 31, 2020, 11:31:27 AM »
They understand comedy.

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« Reply #9722 on: August 31, 2020, 11:37:13 AM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.

that's the only reason every other country has kept their deaths so low then?  To try and make Trump look bad?  What a bunch of jerks!

Thanks to the Grandma Killers and nearly 3 co-morbidities in 94% of the Covid-19 deaths the U.S. has a high mortality rate.   Sadly a Dem Mayor told the nations largest city to go party and then locked them down immediately after and then the Governor (now trying to cover it up) created nursing homes of death.

Citing Gateway Pundit now, are we?
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9723 on: August 31, 2020, 11:45:26 AM »
*sigh* just wait for a vaccine

https://twitter.com/olgakhazan/status/1300429906287964163

Test and Trace's methodology  :lol:

That only takes into account contact tracers at the state level and volunteers only counted as 1/4 a person  :lol: :lol:

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9724 on: August 31, 2020, 12:20:44 PM »
Dax literally believes the entire world has intentionality harmed their own and the global economy just to make trump look bad.

So there you go, no need to engage him further.

that's the only reason every other country has kept their deaths so low then?  To try and make Trump look bad?  What a bunch of jerks!

Thanks to the Grandma Killers and nearly 3 co-morbidities in 94% of the Covid-19 deaths the U.S. has a high mortality rate.   Sadly a Dem Mayor told the nations largest city to go party and then locked them down immediately after and then the Governor (now trying to cover it up) created nursing homes of death.

Citing Gateway Pundit now, are we?
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html
Your link does not have any tables.