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dax I don't like where you're going with this

LOL,  we can talk about certain ethnic groups pre-disposition to follow rules, we can talk about a country with a certain demographic make-up's pre-disposition to follow rules

YOOOOOOOO LOL.


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Re: Corona Bro/Corona Meltdown/Corona Model Guessers
« Reply #7229 on: May 27, 2020, 09:11:28 AM »
Time to jump on the positivity train with Phil this morning.

It all started at the KU Med morning media briefing, they were talking sports and towards the end the head dude was like "we can't do a lot of sports normal until a vaccine, advanced theratputics or this thing burns itself out, that would be great"

I'd had that thought of "burn out" in the back of my mind when you reflect back on SARS/MERS etc. that we never got a vaccine for those and they went away.  So went on some confirmation googling to see if anybody else is hinting at this and found this former WHO director:
https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1265232235705270272

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1261578426093383682

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1265566511118331907

but maybe his just a sunshine pumper?


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Re: Corona Bro/Corona Meltdown/Corona Model Guessers
« Reply #7230 on: May 27, 2020, 09:19:30 AM »
Yeah I've never really heard the rationale behind "there will be a second wave," not that I've looked very hard for it. 


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« Reply #7231 on: May 27, 2020, 09:22:08 AM »
More like professor Karol SiHugeStudwhokillsitatthepoolwithallthechicks

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« Reply #7232 on: May 27, 2020, 09:56:21 AM »
It's easy to get lost in charts and trump bullshit, but this is definitely worth watching to get a sense of what it's like when things go bad

https://twitter.com/DrTomFrieden/status/1265386981221113858

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« Reply #7234 on: May 27, 2020, 10:56:49 AM »
Yeah I've never really heard the rationale behind "there will be a second wave," not that I've looked very hard for it.

Because that's what happened with the Spanish Flu in 1918.

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« Reply #7235 on: May 27, 2020, 11:00:02 AM »
Yeah I've never really heard the rationale behind "there will be a second wave," not that I've looked very hard for it.

Because that's what happened with the Spanish Flu in 1918.

while this is one example we have other examples of pandemics not rebounding.  Obviously none of us know what path this COVID19 will follow but is there any indication as to why it would follow the Spanish Flu vs. other pandemics?

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« Reply #7236 on: May 27, 2020, 11:08:40 AM »
Yeah I've never really heard the rationale behind "there will be a second wave," not that I've looked very hard for it.

Because that's what happened with the Spanish Flu in 1918.

while this is one example we have other examples of pandemics not rebounding.  Obviously none of us know what path this COVID19 will follow but is there any indication as to why it would follow the Spanish Flu vs. other pandemics?

it's tough to say. some of it has nothing to do with the virus itself but with how our behavior changes during winter months:

http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/

to avoid a second wave, the best thing we can do is proactively stamp it out as much as possible before october

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« Reply #7237 on: May 27, 2020, 11:27:55 AM »
Yeah I've never really heard the rationale behind "there will be a second wave," not that I've looked very hard for it.

Because that's what happened with the Spanish Flu in 1918.
Right.  But that was 100 years ago, and I like to think there now exist variables that impact that single case study (which involved a bad mutation and trench warfare).

If "the second wave" is just the same way of saying "seasonality" (which you imply by linking the harvard study on flu seasonality) then I can understand that.
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« Reply #7238 on: May 27, 2020, 11:37:02 AM »
Air conditioning and air filtration seems to be good at limiting spread right? That would give us an edge over the 1918 suckers.

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« Reply #7239 on: May 27, 2020, 11:39:01 AM »
Air conditioning and air filtration seems to be good at limiting spread right? That would give us an edge over the 1918 suckers.

Cue the one China restaurant overused story link that featured A/C spread

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« Reply #7240 on: May 27, 2020, 11:48:54 AM »
Time to jump on the positivity train with Phil this morning.

It all started at the KU Med morning media briefing, they were talking sports and towards the end the head dude was like "we can't do a lot of sports normal until a vaccine, advanced theratputics or this thing burns itself out, that would be great"

I'd had that thought of "burn out" in the back of my mind when you reflect back on SARS/MERS etc. that we never got a vaccine for those and they went away.  So went on some confirmation googling to see if anybody else is hinting at this and found this former WHO director:
https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1265232235705270272

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1261578426093383682

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1265566511118331907

but maybe his just a sunshine pumper?

Fauci listened to me, he's on board.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/27/dr-anthony-fauci-says-a-second-wave-of-coronavirus-is-not-inevitable.html

Wear masks now, let's kick this thing's ass!

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« Reply #7241 on: May 27, 2020, 11:52:07 AM »
I hope Karol is an actual predictor and not a Q level predictor

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« Reply #7242 on: May 27, 2020, 12:14:55 PM »

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« Reply #7243 on: May 27, 2020, 12:15:43 PM »
Yeah I've never really heard the rationale behind "there will be a second wave," not that I've looked very hard for it.

Because that's what happened with the Spanish Flu in 1918.
Right.  But that was 100 years ago, and I like to think there now exist variables that impact that single case study (which involved a bad mutation and trench warfare).

If "the second wave" is just the same way of saying "seasonality" (which you imply by linking the harvard study on flu seasonality) then I can understand that.

My rationale for it is basically that we get wave 1 under control-ish but not gone with an abundance of caution and social distancing (i.e. - now in many places), while a fairly low percentage of the population has been exposed to it.  Then as normal life begins to resume there is still a majority of people who haven't been exposed previously so we see it climb again for wave 2.  This doesn't take any seasonality into account.
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« Reply #7244 on: May 27, 2020, 12:25:39 PM »
I don't think we'll see another New York/NJ. I saw the analogy of a frog boiling which is what I expect is more likely unless we throw the doors open to indoor crowds or something.

Like what is happening in California and North Carolina



(Again I think this is showing that shelter in place alone won't stamp it out in any way shape or form)

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« Reply #7245 on: May 27, 2020, 12:28:51 PM »
I don't think we'll see another New York/NJ. I saw the analogy of a frog boiling which is what I expect is more likely unless we throw the doors open to indoor crowds or something.

Like what is happening in California and North Carolina



(Again I think this is showing that shelter in place alone won't stamp it out in any way shape or form)

Joco just threw open the doors.

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« Reply #7246 on: May 27, 2020, 12:30:51 PM »
the analogy of a frog boiling

I don't know if it means I'm unsophisticated or that I'm not hick enough that a frog boiling doesn't serve as a helpful analogy to me.

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« Reply #7247 on: May 27, 2020, 12:38:04 PM »
the analogy of a frog boiling

I don't know if it means I'm unsophisticated or that I'm not hick enough that a frog boiling doesn't serve as a helpful analogy to me.

the story/myth is that if you put a frog in a pot of cold water on a stove and gradually heat it up it won't jump realize it's hot and jump out of the pot.

https://www.conservationmagazine.org/2011/03/frog-fable-brought-to-boil/

Joco just threw open the doors.

did they really though? are bars and restaurants really going to be full capacity tonight?

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« Reply #7248 on: May 27, 2020, 12:44:51 PM »
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Joco just threw open the doors.

did they really though? are bars and restaurants really going to be full capacity tonight?

I sure hope not but you know there are businesses that will.  (Some) Churches for sure will and we all know how that goes.

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« Reply #7249 on: May 27, 2020, 01:17:20 PM »
No county in Kansas is going to enforce anything. Individual businesses may enforce social distancing, but I really doubt most restaurants are going to impose long waits when half of their tables are open.