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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4475 on: April 16, 2020, 09:20:16 PM »
Useful Idiot Nation is just  :curse: on Twitter about the prospect of gradually reopening the economy.

Always easy to spot the "everything will be free" BernieBro crowd.

I fell behind a couple of days with this thread. I read a couple of posts here where you made some cogent points, didn't use really stupid nicknames, and didn't repeat yourself. Even though I disagreed with said posts it was nice reading coherent thoughts of someone who wasn't a parody of himself.

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4476 on: April 16, 2020, 09:21:31 PM »
I'm very dynamic MIR.


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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4477 on: April 16, 2020, 09:27:06 PM »
Canada's off the hook?

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4478 on: April 16, 2020, 09:36:12 PM »
Canada's off the hook?

Is their PM still in hiding?


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4479 on: April 16, 2020, 10:08:42 PM »
I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.
I agree that the origin isn't a priority right now.  All I'm saying is that I think the world eventually deserves an answer as to how this episode actually began.

This is important so we can use science to try to learn from this in the future and not so we can exact some kind of revenge, right?
Principally, yes.  But if CCP knew that this came from one of their labs, and have been making up some bullshit about a Pangolin in a wet market, I don't think it's asking too much for them to offer a "my bad for leaking this thing and lying about it for x months while a ton of people got sick and died and got their economies wrecked." 

To be clear, I'm not accusing anyone of anything.  I don't know what happened.  But I do think investigating the origin of this worldwide catastrophe is worthwhile.  I hope that nothing nefarious is behind it and it's just some freak virus that emanated naturally. 
« Last Edit: April 16, 2020, 10:19:51 PM by DQ12 »


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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4480 on: April 17, 2020, 12:16:18 AM »
If they did it they will never ever admit it

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4481 on: April 17, 2020, 07:16:25 AM »
You keep pangolins out of your damn mouf DQ boy
When the bullets are flying, that's when I'm at my best

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4482 on: April 17, 2020, 08:39:16 AM »
You keep pangolins out of your damn mouf DQ boy
If pangolins did this to us, pangolins must pay.


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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4483 on: April 17, 2020, 08:47:37 AM »
So matching up KCMO health director's comments and the federal recommendations here are my guesses*

-May 15th - can go out to eat again and go to the gym
- June 1st - I chill with my parents in person again
-June 15th - Office probably opening up for some
-July 15th - I step back foot in my office
- August 25 - My first trip on a plane
-April 2021 - I step foot in Kauffman stadium

*-Assuming we get proper testing in place that my president told us we'd have a month ago that KCMO health still didn't seem that optimistic about.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2020, 08:56:01 AM by Phil Titola »

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4484 on: April 17, 2020, 08:49:17 AM »
this guy has very soothing daily update threads

https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1250995928778989570

and a good conversation with someone volunteering in a New York ED @3:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1I2KlWPw9I&feature=youtu.be

haven't watched the entire thing, but the guy following the NY guy is an epidemiologist and the style is just kind of a calm interesting discussion if you want to kill some time. I enjoy it.

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4486 on: April 17, 2020, 08:54:57 AM »
Not super new, but I'm not sure I've seen it posted here yet:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-us-aircraft-carrier-are-symptom-free-idUSKCN21Y2GB

yeah that's kinda scary when it comes to how effective testing + contact tracing will be. Still, the evidence is that it's been pretty effective in Korea/HK/Singapore (even though I read Singapore was having a resurgence)

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4487 on: April 17, 2020, 09:02:56 AM »
this guy has very soothing daily update threads

https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1250995928778989570

and a good conversation with someone volunteering in a New York ED @3:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1I2KlWPw9I&feature=youtu.be

haven't watched the entire thing, but the guy following the NY guy is an epidemiologist and the style is just kind of a calm interesting discussion if you want to kill some time. I enjoy it.

pretty good deep dive discussion of the racial disparity of transmission and deaths too! @MakeItRain

mentions things we've been discussed but also a big problem with misinformation and mistrust due to a ton of false information out there and distribution of testing.

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4488 on: April 17, 2020, 09:29:36 AM »
that UCSF thing had an in-depth therapeutics discussion which was a little over my head and I skipped but might be interesting because the woman presenting seemed very calm and data driven.

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4490 on: April 17, 2020, 09:56:49 AM »
https://twitter.com/WillOremus/status/1251153326500016128

So what's to stop someone from installing the app, then turning it or Bluetooth off, and then showing their phone to whoever (with the app and Bluetooth on) to show no COVID contacts?

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4491 on: April 17, 2020, 10:00:58 AM »
https://twitter.com/WillOremus/status/1251153326500016128

So what's to stop someone from installing the app, then turning it or Bluetooth off, and then showing their phone to whoever (with the app and Bluetooth on) to show no COVID contacts?

I don't know, the article mentions quite a few similar flaws with the conept

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4492 on: April 17, 2020, 10:05:38 AM »
No grocery store is going to want to be on the news for refusing service to people too poor to own a smart phone.

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4493 on: April 17, 2020, 10:17:00 AM »
https://twitter.com/WillOremus/status/1251153326500016128

I mentioned this when the news first came out about this proposal as a way to drive adoption.  That said, the socioeconomic division of it makes it hard to see it actually taking place.

there are easy ways for apps not to work if say bluetooth is turned off.  Gambling apps have those control capabilities now, they don't launch with certain settings on/off, rooted, etc.

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4494 on: April 17, 2020, 10:23:33 AM »
No grocery store is going to want to be on the news for refusing service to people too poor to own a smart phone.
Yeah. I personally would love if bars, restaurants, and movie theaters were strict about it though.

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Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4496 on: April 17, 2020, 10:44:56 AM »
https://twitter.com/WillOremus/status/1251153326500016128

So what's to stop someone from installing the app, then turning it or Bluetooth off, and then showing their phone to whoever (with the app and Bluetooth on) to show no COVID contacts?

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4497 on: April 17, 2020, 10:57:23 AM »
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4498 on: April 17, 2020, 11:05:17 AM »
meh.  I bet there were more shady ones coming from those larger states.  Look at huge pieces of crap states like FL and AL.  They aren't that high either...

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Re: China Did This! Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4499 on: April 17, 2020, 11:06:42 AM »
Jackie clearly doesn't understand that Nordic/Germanic crossing the t's and doting the i's 'ing rule following.

Good to see the excellent economic viability already in place in 1st world/cutting edge Bama (where drive thru testing started over a month ago)