CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[JavaCat]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

https://twitter.com/KansasDOL/status/1250081485681569792

[star seed 7]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

I know it's frustrating, but it's not really their fault. It takes a while to get someone trained to be able to do anything, I heard this morning they are reaching out to retirees to see if they can come back to help with the volume. Suddenly stripping government to bare bones doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Also, there's a thread on the kc reddit that someone figured out the number to call that skips the line or something, maybe try that.

[420seriouscat69]

Cool. Thanks! It's very frustrating.

[Trim]

But I think all decent people ought to submit to it, given the circumstances.

People doing dirt can't possibly agree to be part of this.

People doing dirt? 

Criminals, cheaters, clandestine biz dealers, etc.  Anyone who doesn't want the people they customarily deal with knowing they're dealing with others outside their circle. 

[Phil Titola]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

I know it's frustrating, but it's not really their fault. It takes a while to get someone trained to be able to do anything, I heard this morning they are reaching out to retirees to see if they can come back to help with the volume. Suddenly stripping government to bare bones doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Also, there's a thread on the kc reddit that someone figured out the number to call that skips the line or something, maybe try that.

"too much government waste, why we spending so much money" suddenly becomes "why don't we have services we need right now" real damn fast doesn't it?

[420seriouscat69]

I know nothing about IT, but apparently their system is like 40 years old, so... Yeah, it's pretty frustrating if that's the case.

[DQ12]

But I think all decent people ought to submit to it, given the circumstances.

People doing dirt can't possibly agree to be part of this.

People doing dirt? 

Criminals, cheaters, clandestine biz dealers, etc.  Anyone who doesn't want the people they customarily deal with knowing they're dealing with others outside their circle. 

Oh yeah, for sure.  But I don't think the system requires everyone in it to be effective.  The more the merrier, but even if we get 40 percent participation (or higher or lower), it'd still be pretty helpful.

[Spracne]

But I think all decent people ought to submit to it, given the circumstances.

People doing dirt can't possibly agree to be part of this.

People doing dirt? 

Criminals, cheaters, clandestine biz dealers, etc.  Anyone who doesn't want the people they customarily deal with knowing they're dealing with others outside their circle. 

I didn't know you were of the Sal Goodman ilk of attorney.

[LickNeckey]

the fire department is a total waste of money if your house isn't burning

duh

[Rage Against the McKee]

We all find ourselves in a bit of dirt from time to time.

[420seriouscat69]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

I know it's frustrating, but it's not really their fault. It takes a while to get someone trained to be able to do anything, I heard this morning they are reaching out to retirees to see if they can come back to help with the volume. Suddenly stripping government to bare bones doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Also, there's a thread on the kc reddit that someone figured out the number to call that skips the line or something, maybe try that.

"too much government waste, why we spending so much money" suddenly becomes "why don't we have services we need right now" real damn fast doesn't it?

the fire department is a total waste of money if your house isn't burning

duh

Imagine being this goddamn petty during a pandemic when unemployment is about to near 40%. Keep it up, guys! Bravo!

[Phil Titola]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

I know it's frustrating, but it's not really their fault. It takes a while to get someone trained to be able to do anything, I heard this morning they are reaching out to retirees to see if they can come back to help with the volume. Suddenly stripping government to bare bones doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Also, there's a thread on the kc reddit that someone figured out the number to call that skips the line or something, maybe try that.

"too much government waste, why we spending so much money" suddenly becomes "why don't we have services we need right now" real damn fast doesn't it?

the fire department is a total waste of money if your house isn't burning

duh

Imagine being this goddamn petty during a pandemic when unemployment is about to near 40%. Keep it up, guys! Bravo!

Not petty at all, it sucks.  Sorry it's happening to anybody, especially buds on here. 

We have to recognize this moment for future "why do we spend money on XXX" questions though.

[DQ12]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

I know it's frustrating, but it's not really their fault. It takes a while to get someone trained to be able to do anything, I heard this morning they are reaching out to retirees to see if they can come back to help with the volume. Suddenly stripping government to bare bones doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Also, there's a thread on the kc reddit that someone figured out the number to call that skips the line or something, maybe try that.

"too much government waste, why we spending so much money" suddenly becomes "why don't we have services we need right now" real damn fast doesn't it?

the fire department is a total waste of money if your house isn't burning

duh

Imagine being this goddamn petty during a pandemic when unemployment is about to near 40%. Keep it up, guys! Bravo!

Not petty at all, it sucks.  Sorry it's happening to anybody, especially buds on here. 

We have to recognize this moment for future "why do we spend money on XXX" questions though.

Sure, but that's a little revisionist.  The debate was never framed as "we have to prepare for some catastrophic economic meltdown/health crisis" in terms of spending.  At least not that I can remember.

I think it's disingenuous for anyone at this point (aside from maybe CDC/Intelligence wonks) to say "I told you so" regarding the current crisis.

[michigancat]

We all find ourselves in a bit of dirt from time to time.

you have contact with a criminal with a warrant, then all your data falls under the warrant, next thing you know some putz at the NSA is stalking your wife

[Phil Titola]

The state of Kansas should hire some IT people or something because their site goes down every Monday. What a mess.

Still down. No possible way to apply for unemployment this week. lol. What a joke.

I know it's frustrating, but it's not really their fault. It takes a while to get someone trained to be able to do anything, I heard this morning they are reaching out to retirees to see if they can come back to help with the volume. Suddenly stripping government to bare bones doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Also, there's a thread on the kc reddit that someone figured out the number to call that skips the line or something, maybe try that.

"too much government waste, why we spending so much money" suddenly becomes "why don't we have services we need right now" real damn fast doesn't it?

the fire department is a total waste of money if your house isn't burning

duh

Imagine being this goddamn petty during a pandemic when unemployment is about to near 40%. Keep it up, guys! Bravo!

Not petty at all, it sucks.  Sorry it's happening to anybody, especially buds on here. 

We have to recognize this moment for future "why do we spend money on XXX" questions though.

Sure, but that's a little revisionist.  The debate was never framed as "we have to prepare for some catastrophic economic meltdown/health crisis" in terms of spending.  At least not that I can remember.

I think it's disingenuous for anyone at this point (aside from maybe CDC/Intelligence wonks) to say "I told you so" regarding the current crisis.

My comment is just in general around our constant erosion of funding government services at every level, especially those in social services like unemployment.  We constantly hear how it's wasteful and try and streamline every process / agency to the nth degree.

[Spracne]

We all find ourselves in a bit of dirt from time to time.

you have contact with a criminal with a warrant, then all your data falls under the warrant, next thing you know some putz at the NSA is stalking your wife

No, that's not how warrants work. Thank goodness for the Fourth Amendment.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Say I hypothetically commit some sort of crime in the future. I'd rather get off scot-free, and I don't see this sort of thing as helpful to that endeavor.

[Spracne]

Say I hypothetically commit some sort of crime in the future. I'd rather get off scot-free, and I don't see this sort of thing as helpful to that endeavor.

Then don't opt in. Side note: law enforcement can already obtain cell tower tracking information via subpoenas.

[michigancat]

We all find ourselves in a bit of dirt from time to time.

you have contact with a criminal with a warrant, then all your data falls under the warrant, next thing you know some putz at the NSA is stalking your wife

No, that's not how warrants work. Thank goodness for the Fourth Amendment.

I'm definitely exaggerating, but the fourth amendment isn't much of a barrier to US intelligence and law enforcement doing whatever they want when it comes to accessing personal data.

[Spracne]

We all find ourselves in a bit of dirt from time to time.

you have contact with a criminal with a warrant, then all your data falls under the warrant, next thing you know some putz at the NSA is stalking your wife

No, that's not how warrants work. Thank goodness for the Fourth Amendment.

I'm definitely exaggerating, but the fourth amendment isn't much of a barrier to US intelligence and law enforcement doing whatever they want when it comes to accessing personal data.

I disagree.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Say I hypothetically commit some sort of crime in the future. I'd rather get off scot-free, and I don't see this sort of thing as helpful to that endeavor.

Then don't opt in. Side note: law enforcement can already obtain cell tower tracking information via subpoenas.

Maybe this makes you a suspect when you otherwise wouldn't have been.

[LickNeckey]

imagine voting for candidates that promise to "starve the beast" and then complain that the "beast" isn't helping fast enough

[Spracne]

Say I hypothetically commit some sort of crime in the future. I'd rather get off scot-free, and I don't see this sort of thing as helpful to that endeavor.

Then don't opt in. Side note: law enforcement can already obtain cell tower tracking information via subpoenas.

Maybe this makes you a suspect when you otherwise wouldn't have been.

The optional choice to not download an app does not equal probable cause to obtain a search warrant.

[DQ12]

My comment is just in general around our constant erosion of funding government services at every level, especially those in social services like unemployment.  We constantly hear how it's wasteful and try and streamline every process / agency to the nth degree.

Right, but some government spending is wasteful (that's pretty much a bi-partisan agreement), the current once-in-a-century endemic notwithstanding. 

I don't think the current circumstance is evidence of good/bad government spending beyond preparation for this this or similar circumstances. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think the unemployment office needs to be funded at a level to handle this volume of claims at all times.