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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1550 on: March 18, 2020, 04:54:46 PM »
Just heard some rumblings that the whole country is going to get a "shelter in place" order for two weeks.  Better make your liquor store run now.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1551 on: March 18, 2020, 05:02:21 PM »
It really wouldn't surprise me Friday or Monday.

I somewhat expected it today.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1552 on: March 18, 2020, 05:04:50 PM »
Just heard some rumblings that the whole country is going to get a "shelter in place" order for two weeks.  Better make your liquor store run now.
Rumblings from where?
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1553 on: March 18, 2020, 05:07:03 PM »
Because I heard a similar rumor from someone supposedly connected to the government that there would be a nationwide quarantine announced this past Monday. It did not come to pass.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1554 on: March 18, 2020, 05:24:00 PM »
That's why I said rumbling. Don't have a ton of confidence. Heard from same type of source as you that it was coming.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1555 on: March 18, 2020, 05:32:55 PM »
Because I heard a similar rumor from someone supposedly connected to the government that there would be a nationwide quarantine announced this past Monday. It did not come to pass.

yeah I've heard rumors along these lines that seem to originate from the Pentagon. Might have been people confused with the DOD ban on all air travel for their personnel and their families.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1556 on: March 18, 2020, 06:35:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/flaherbert/status/1240380634188652544?s=21

I enjoy these type of replies when people offer analysis around this topic.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1559 on: March 18, 2020, 07:08:03 PM »
What are some cliffs on what S Korea did to contain it?
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1560 on: March 18, 2020, 07:09:44 PM »
so it's starting to hit the fan here at my wife's hospital. They set up a unit for covid last week, which is good. The unit has negative pressure isolation rooms with 1:1 nurses going through a pretty extensive decontamination process to get in and out of the room - like it takes five pairs of gloves, a paper gown, N95 mask, and who knows what else to get in and out of the rooms. They've been asked to re-use N95 masks and put them into new brown paper bags between rooms (and they can't seem to get new rough ridin' paper bags). Gloves and gowns are under lock and key and they expect to completely run out of supplies next week.

Part of the problem is testing: the hospital has an exclusive contract with a lab that has a FOUR DAY TURNAROUND on covid tests. Supposedly they can't go anywhere else. This mean that suspected covid patients are put in the negative pressure isolation until they're ruled out and it's assumed they have something more simple, like the flu or something. They had a patient in isolation for NINE DAYS before it was ruled out due to problems with communication between the lab and the hospital.

K-Dub was saying that Italy was worse because of their hospital designs, but ours will be no better or worse if nurses start contaminating themselves due to lack of PPE.

TL/DR: Nurses are gonna get sick due to lack of PPE due to long lead times on testing and it's gonna be a disaster unless something changes quickly

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1562 on: March 18, 2020, 07:25:42 PM »
What are some cliffs on what S Korea did to contain it?
This may surprise you.


They did crap loads of testing. Also had fever clinics previously in place from SARS stuff that they used to deal with suspected cases.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1564 on: March 18, 2020, 07:36:48 PM »
Yes, one thing we can all say for sure is Nationalized airlines are good for the consumer


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1565 on: March 18, 2020, 07:45:37 PM »
What are some cliffs on what S Korea did to contain it?
This may surprise you.


They did crap loads of testing. Also had fever clinics previously in place from SARS stuff that they used to deal with suspected cases.

And they track all their citizens so they could zero in on connections to others to get them isolated and tested.  Yes what I read the invested in infrastructure after the last time  to make sure they were ready next time.

We were stuck with president hoax flying around laughing about it.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1567 on: March 18, 2020, 08:15:16 PM »
What are some cliffs on what S Korea did to contain it?
This may surprise you.


They did crap loads of testing. Also had fever clinics previously in place from SARS stuff that they used to deal with suspected cases.

And they track all their citizens so they could zero in on connections to others to get them isolated and tested.  Yes what I read the invested in infrastructure after the last time  to make sure they were ready next time.

We were stuck with president hoax flying around laughing about it.

So once they tested you and it came back positive how did they instruct people to proceed? The whole process seems remarkably simplistic but has apparently been staggeringly effective.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1568 on: March 18, 2020, 08:19:42 PM »
What are some cliffs on what S Korea did to contain it?
This may surprise you.


They did crap loads of testing. Also had fever clinics previously in place from SARS stuff that they used to deal with suspected cases.

And they track all their citizens so they could zero in on connections to others to get them isolated and tested.  Yes what I read the invested in infrastructure after the last time  to make sure they were ready next time.

We were stuck with president hoax flying around laughing about it.

So once they tested you and it came back positive how did they instruct people to proceed? The whole process seems remarkably simplistic but has apparently been staggeringly effective.

That I don't know other than they could back and see where an infected person was and who they had contact with based on their location and go talk to those people and test them.

Google has my location history, if I get sick I'll consent to them doing this to me and my contacts in a second.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1569 on: March 18, 2020, 08:23:34 PM »
http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/

This crap is so damn interesting from a pure data perspective. 

So damn scary for real life.

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« Reply #1570 on: March 18, 2020, 08:27:57 PM »
One country that has been seemingly quiet in all this has been India.  I would think based on sheer population size they would be in really bad shape.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1571 on: March 18, 2020, 08:29:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1240417970666369024

This is one of those times I will side with the trumpers, this is a really stupid comparison. South Korea is roughly the size of Indiana that essentially has no functional borders. They also have an infrastructure that blows ours away, can't blame trump for that either. There's also this

https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthcare/south-korea-coronavirus

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1572 on: March 18, 2020, 08:33:49 PM »
What are some cliffs on what S Korea did to contain it?
This may surprise you.


They did crap loads of testing. Also had fever clinics previously in place from SARS stuff that they used to deal with suspected cases.

And they track all their citizens so they could zero in on connections to others to get them isolated and tested.  Yes what I read the invested in infrastructure after the last time  to make sure they were ready next time.

We were stuck with president hoax flying around laughing about it.

So once they tested you and it came back positive how did they instruct people to proceed? The whole process seems remarkably simplistic but has apparently been staggeringly effective.

That I don't know other than they could back and see where an infected person was and who they had contact with based on their location and go talk to those people and test them.

Google has my location history, if I get sick I'll consent to them doing this to me and my contacts in a second.

Apparently Israel is sending people text messages using this concept to tell them when and where they have come in contact with infected people.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1573 on: March 18, 2020, 08:35:20 PM »
One country that has been seemingly quiet in all this has been India.  I would think based on sheer population size they would be in really bad shape.
We have a decent sized team there and they have been WFH all week too. They have said it’s starting to spread a little but it isn’t super bad yet.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #1574 on: March 18, 2020, 08:35:56 PM »
Also guys, it’s only been a week since the NBA suspended their season. It feels like a lifetime ago.
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