Courtney Messingham is a proven loser

[CHONGS]

I will also accept anyone out there with 5* QB son they will bring along for the ride.

[Winters]

 

[catastrophe]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

[Shooter Jones]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

Agreed.

[ChiComCat]

Didn't someone mention it became a whole lot cheaper to fire Mess as of yesterday? This makes sense.

I think his contract may have just been up.  I don't believe it was a money thing but lets him leave without being "fired"

[KCFDcat]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

if he hires someone w an innovative offense from outside the ndsu tree I will be ecstatic. If he hires Polasek or someone like him i=I'll probably be more disengaged than if messingham were kept on.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think we either need to start recruiting about 10x better than we are now or we need to keep using a slow offense that shortens the game.

[michigancat]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

if he hires someone w an innovative offense from outside the ndsu tree I will be ecstatic. If he hires Polasek or someone like him i=I'll probably be more disengaged than if messingham were kept on.

To be fair this was how we got Hazelton

[michigancat]

I think we either need to start recruiting about 10x better than we are now or we need to keep using a slow offense that shortens the game.

Yep

[catastrophe]

I think we either need to start recruiting about 10x better than we are now or we need to keep using a slow offense that shortens the game.

Slow paced offense doesn’t bother me. 2011-12 were both super fun years to watch. A big part of that is because if we ever needed a yard on third or fourth down we did exactly what everyone thought we were gonna do, with a damn near 100% success rate.

[muqluk]

https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1466888897946923009

[KCFDcat]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

if he hires someone w an innovative offense from outside the ndsu tree I will be ecstatic. If he hires Polasek or someone like him i=I'll probably be more disengaged than if messingham were kept on.

To be fair this was how we got Hazelton

this is a good point.

[catastrophe]

https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/1466888897946923009

A good point to keep in mind for the folks suggesting Mess’s playcalling was limited by his weapons.

[KCFDcat]

I think we either need to start recruiting about 10x better than we are now or we need to keep using a slow offense that shortens the game.

Slow paced offense doesn’t bother me. 2011-12 were both super fun years to watch. A big part of that is because if we ever needed a yard on third or fourth down we did exactly what everyone thought we were gonna do, with a damn near 100% success rate.

I think you can be innovative while still taking ball control/pace into mind. I'm not advocating for a no huddle mike leach offense, just something that makes DCs guess every once in awhile. Never felt like we had any sort of identity on offense, seemed like a guy that opened a playbook and blindly pointed to a play.

[PurpleOil]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

This is how I'm feeling as well. 

[Shooter Jones]

Awesome news. Obviously just as interested in who we get but this gives me a lot of hope for KSUFB.

if he hires someone w an innovative offense from outside the ndsu tree I will be ecstatic. If he hires Polasek or someone like him i=I'll probably be more disengaged than if messingham were kept on.

To be fair this was how we got Hazelton

this is a good point.

The same Hazelton that currently has one of/if not the worst defense in all of D1 football? Like Mess was most likely close to the worst offense at ISU with way less talent.

(I had this typed and wanted to look. It's just dead last in passing defense, 117th in total D for Hazelton)

Either way, not every fit is right. I guess we just need to see where this hiring process goes.

[ben ji]

Klein is interim OC for bowl game….

Howard is gonna be so sketti brained he won't know what hit him

Will Howard better write down all his favorite childhood memories before the bowl game.

[Winters]

Messingham and Ray:

[michigancat]

Just watched a little of UTSA and yeah that OC would be a great fit

[wetwillie]

Just watched a little of UTSA and yeah that OC would be a great fit

Yea I’d take him in a heartbeat.  I’m trying to figure out why he went from San Jose St OC/QB coach to a high school football coach.  He must have really wanted to move back home to Arkansas.

[michigancat]

Just watched a little of UTSA and yeah that OC would be a great fit

Yea I’d take him in a heartbeat.  I’m trying to figure out why he went from San Jose St OC/QB coach to a high school football coach.  He must have really wanted to move back home to Arkansas.

well SJSU went 5-17 while he was OC (actually co-OC) and the coach was fired at 2004. Still, he wasn't even head coach in Arkansas! he was a high school offensive coordinator!

[wetwillie]

Just watched a little of UTSA and yeah that OC would be a great fit

Yea I’d take him in a heartbeat.  I’m trying to figure out why he went from San Jose St OC/QB coach to a high school football coach.  He must have really wanted to move back home to Arkansas.

well SJSU went 5-17 while he was OC (actually co-OC) and the coach was fired at 2004. Still, he wasn't even head coach in Arkansas! he was a high school offensive coordinator!

Lol looks like his dad was the HC at Bentonville High.  I wonder if he is waiting for Briles to get a HC job at vacate that Arkansas OC job.

[jtksu]

Klein is interim OC for bowl game….

Howard is gonna be so sketti brained he won't know what hit him

Will Howard better write down all his favorite childhood memories before the bowl game.

 

[michigancat]

Just watched a little of UTSA and yeah that OC would be a great fit

Yea I’d take him in a heartbeat.  I’m trying to figure out why he went from San Jose St OC/QB coach to a high school football coach.  He must have really wanted to move back home to Arkansas.

well SJSU went 5-17 while he was OC (actually co-OC) and the coach was fired at 2004. Still, he wasn't even head coach in Arkansas! he was a high school offensive coordinator!

Lol looks like his dad was the HC at Bentonville High.  I wonder if he is waiting for Briles to get a HC job at vacate that Arkansas OC job.

haha.

I mean Pittman could have kept him as TE coach but he went with this guy instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Cooper_(American_football)

And then Pittman fired that guy and hired another Arkansas alumnus: https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/coache/dowell-loggains/

[Cire]

Andy Ludwig is back at Utah

Maybe we could hire him again


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