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The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« on: February 07, 2019, 11:18:26 AM »


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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 11:33:46 AM »
He's going to be an amazing senator for Kansas

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 09:23:30 PM »


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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2019, 09:05:26 PM »
pretty incredible talking point that hizbollah has moved in to Venezuela.
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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2019, 09:06:43 PM »
pretty incredible talking point that hizbollah has moved in to Venezuela.

You clearly didn't read the FP article.


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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2019, 01:02:30 AM »
pretty incredible talking point that hizbollah has moved in to Venezuela.

You clearly didn't read the FP article.



sweet christ dax, that article is two years old, literally no one is afraid of Venezualan Hezbullah terrorists

are you suggesting we invade Venezuela to stop these jokers?

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2019, 01:48:39 AM »
If I understand correctly, I think dax is against regime change when violent Islamic extremists are around and for it when they are not.

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2019, 07:34:53 AM »
pretty incredible talking point that hizbollah has moved in to Venezuela.

You clearly didn't read the FP article.

This guy seems like he has been workshopping the talking point for a while now. 

https://foreignpolicy.com/author/emanuele-ottolenghi/

Aren't you bothered by the "Foundation for the Defense of Democracies" and the rest of these neocons closing in around Don?
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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 12:16:47 PM »

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2019, 12:30:39 PM »
why would we care about Venzuela and Petrol Politics

we are ENERGY DOMINANT!!!!

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2019, 02:37:55 PM »
pretty incredible talking point that hizbollah has moved in to Venezuela.

You clearly didn't read the FP article.



sweet christ dax, that article is two years old, literally no one is afraid of Venezualan Hezbullah terrorists

are you suggesting we invade Venezuela to stop these jokers?

When did you turn into such a reactionary numbskull with the rest of the resident LibDerps?  Did you miss "Venezuela is not worth it"?   Did you miss the part that I was chiding LibDerp7 for being several years behind? 

Hezbollah is inextricably tied to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and QUDs, so to day "no one is afraid" is little naive.








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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2019, 03:32:36 PM »
Hezbollah is scary in Lebannon.
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The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 06:06:40 PM »
Gosh, so much fuss over nothing, thanks for setting us all straight, cRusty

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1451596

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2019, 06:12:44 PM »
Gosh, so much fuss over nothing, thanks for setting us all straight, cRusty

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1451596
I mean that basically said the same non-scary stuff the other article did. Venezuelan Hezbollah is no threat to the US at all.

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2019, 06:53:51 AM »
Gosh, so much fuss over nothing, thanks for setting us all straight, cRusty

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1451596
I mean that basically said the same non-scary stuff the other article did. Venezuelan Hezbollah is no threat to the US at all.

Weird, then why “redouble” efforts to counter Hezbollah?


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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2019, 08:54:32 AM »
Dax will be glad to know that Elliot Abrams is on the case.

so rest assured there will be no arms sent to Venezuela!!!

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2019, 01:48:20 PM »
Dax will be glad to know that Elliot Abrams is on the case.

so rest assured there will be no arms sent to Venezuela!!!

Did I say there wouldn’t be any?  Dumb if so. 

Weird to see LibDerp Nation concerned about Elliot Abrams, I suppose a decade or so late is befitting. 

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2019, 02:17:12 PM »
dax you are being extra weird in this thread

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2019, 02:26:34 PM »
dax you are being extra weird in this thread

Let's see:

You said the largest terrorist organization directly tied to state sponsorship (outside of the militaries of nation states that some or many would call terrorists) in the world was nothing to worry about.

The second article I posted said this:  Exposing the full extent of the Maduro government’s relationship with Hezbollah and the entanglement of senior officials with the group will make a strong argument in favor of Guaido, because Hezbollah is involved in serious criminal activity in Venezuela (and elsewhere), including drug trafficking, money laundering and arms smuggling. The US in particular will feel obligated to address more forcefully Hezbollah’s presence in Venezuela. If the US is going around the Middle East and elsewhere to counter the malign activities of Iran and its proxies, and their attempts to circumvent US sanctions, it should do the same in Venezuela, virtually America’s own backyard.
Regardless of how the Venezuelan crisis evolves, the US and its allies should redouble their efforts to counter Hezbollah’s attempts to increase its influence and malign activities in Venezuela.


If there's no concern, then why is this author taking that position?

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I mean that basically said the same non-scary stuff the other article did. Venezuelan Hezbollah is no threat to the US at all.

How could anyone read that Arab News article and have what you said be the take away?




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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2019, 02:36:47 PM »
dax have you browsed that author's other articles?

http://www.arabnews.com/taxonomy/term/2621

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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2019, 02:41:50 PM »
dax have you browsed that author's other articles?

http://www.arabnews.com/taxonomy/term/2621

cRusty, the basic bent on this, as usual from this board is that Pompeo was trying to pull a "yellow cake" about Venezuela and somehow conjuring up a nHezbullah bogey men where none actually existed.   Reality says it's the exact opposite.

Now, do you have anything that may discredit what this author says beyond that you don't like the cut of his political jib?


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Re: The impending invasion of Venezuela thread
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2019, 02:46:17 PM »
dax have you browsed that author's other articles?

http://www.arabnews.com/taxonomy/term/2621

cRusty, the basic bent on this, as usual from this board is that Pompeo was trying to pull a "yellow cake" about Venezuela and somehow conjuring up a nHezbullah bogey men where none actually existed.   Reality says it's the exact opposite.

Now, do you have anything that may discredit what this author says beyond that you don't like the cut of his political jib?



I really don't know much about his politics, I just doubt that he is unbiased voice on matters possibly involving Iran based on his bio and list of articles. But if you think that article confirms that Hezbullah's Venezuelan faction is a true threat to the US and we should therefore start rough ridin' crap up in Latin America again, be my guest.