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Haven't all the elections under dispute been audited and certified by the states, which is what the system is set up to do? If that is a problem, what did MAGA's do to change any of that over the last four years?
No, they most certainly have not. In fact, if you read the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruling, they admitted that there were all kinds of inconsistencies and irregularities within their state election. 3 of the 7 justices felt that the state should have thrown out over 220,000 ballots. Now yes, all the states have since certified their elections, but certifying erroneous votes doesn't make it right.
MAGA's didn't do much to change the way the elections are held because it's not up to the federal government. This is an issue that has to be resolved at the state level.
so you would be in favor of minimizing states rights then???
Where did you get that???
Demands of proving a negative to keep the "question" alive forever.
I'm not keeping anything alive. How can election integrity be a partisan issue?
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I'm struggling to find my original source as well, and I'm not going to spend a bunch of time on it. However, those number totals align with what I said, 2 out of 5.
There were over 60 court cases where people had opportunities to present evidence about all of this. They all got dismissed for either having no basis in fact, non-credible witnesses, or being brought by people who had no interest in the issues they complained about.
I get that you're just parroting the major talking points about this from media articles, but if you'd actually read the rulings from these state courts, you wouldn't be saying this.
The fraudulent election boogieman problem exists solely because Trump is a demagogue and the Republican party let him run roughshod all over their party for four years because they are primarily composed of power-hungry cowards that acquiesced to everything he asked until they finally had an out. Trump started sowing uncertainty in our election system before he was even elected president. To suggest otherwise is incorrect.
No, it really isn't. There have been all kinds of suggestions that the system was flawed long before Trump came to power. He just pushed it to the front.
What I do know for certain is the fiasco on January 6th flat out doesn't happen, regardless of the outcome, if people truly believed in our elections.
The hubris in this statement is ridiculous. You absolutely do not know that.
Well I obviously can't prove a hypothetical, but if you honestly believe that people are willing to just blindly follow Trump and make him president just because he says so, then we don't have anything to discuss anymore. There's just not going to be any semblance of common ground between us.