we are an immoral nation and i'm too comfortable and apathetic to do anything ab

[sys]

i heard an interview a few days back with an american soldier describing his efforts to help a translator who worked with his unit get out of afghanistan and immigrate to the u.s and the roadblocks and indifference with which both the translator's efforts to escape were treated and the same indifference and roadblocks which the soldier faced when he tried to expedite the process.

i already knew it was bad, but the description was even worse than i expected.

[michigancat]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

[Brock Landers]

Human trafficking to own the libs!!

[MakeItRain]

For those who don't know, the people who actually live on Martha's Vineyard and the cape are not the rich people who vacation there and leave in late August. DeSantis is an elite who attended Harvard and Yale, he absolutely knows the rich people are gone and he shipped those migrants to a bunch of people who work in hospitality and fishing.

Some republicans are pointing out that Biden has also shipped migrants across the country, as if that makes it okay. It's ghoulish behavior regardless of what party is doing it.

[Brock Landers]

It's too bad the Punchable Faces thread got locked because Desantis is a prime candidate for having his stupid punchable face posted in there.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's fantastic hearing the mayors of sanctuary cities whine about migrants showing up at their doorstep.

The virtue signaling was so much more fulfilling . . . then the actual dealing with, clearly.

[Rage Against the McKee]

They should ship them to Kansas. Tons of job openings here.

[sonofdaxjones]

They should ship them to Kansas. Tons of job openings here.

Licks Bahrain/Dubai America dream is closer than ever.

Grats Lick

Nothing will make the megacorps/American (left leaning . . . publicly, not so much in the board rooms and the top floor behind closed doors) Oligarchs happier

[Sandstone Outcropping]

They should ship them to Kansas. Tons of job openings here.

Kansas are simultaneously angry about nobody being present to refill their Dr Pepper at Applebees or potty them in a timely manner when they are hospitalized AND the thought of people from south of the border coming to KS.

[sonofdaxjones]

There's little doubt that raising the minimum wage will be pushed extremely hard by American Oligarchs/Mega-Corps/businesses of all types as they gaze upon the vast landscape of new potential workers streaming into the country.

What's also fascinating is #blueanon/#blueanongE's unyielding belief that every migrant is coming to America to clean our toilets and do the hard labor.  Keep up the delusion fellas    (one could even consider the delusion a form of stealth racism).

[LickNeckey]

would rather those folks have a path to legal citizenship

[I_have_purplewood]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

Ghoulish seems like an odd word to use here?  How is it ghoulish?

[catastrophe]

would rather those folks have a path to legal citizenship

Biden just needs to do a standing Executive Order that grants status to anyone involved in these stunts. Basically treat it like a lottery ticket from your pals Abbott and DeSantis.

[catastrophe]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

Ghoulish seems like an odd word to use here?  How is it ghoulish?

They’re literally treating people like props

[I_have_purplewood]

would rather those folks have a path to legal citizenship

Biden just needs to do a standing Executive Order that grants status to anyone involved in these stunts. Basically treat it like a lottery ticket from your pals Abbott and DeSantis.

Right! Screw the ones that are left at the boarder living in despicable conditions.

[michigancat]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

Ghoulish seems like an odd word to use here?  How is it ghoulish?

Probably the wrong word. "Cruel" or "abhorrent" might be better

[I_have_purplewood]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

Ghoulish seems like an odd word to use here?  How is it ghoulish?

Probably the wrong word. "Cruel" or "abhorrent" might be better

Yes, better words.  But are they not being treated cruelly at any border town? 

[bucket]

I've seen people use "dehumanizing" and think that's a good way of describing it.

[I_have_purplewood]

I've seen people use "dehumanizing" and think that's a good way of describing it.

Good word as well but is this what it takes to put this into focus?  This has been happening for a long time and now people are up in arms about it?

[michigancat]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

Ghoulish seems like an odd word to use here?  How is it ghoulish?

Probably the wrong word. "Cruel" or "abhorrent" might be better

Yes, better words.  But are they not being treated cruelly at any border town?

They might have been! If you want to argue that we should improve the detention facilities of asylum seekers, I won't stand in your way.

But there are indications that these were asylum seekers from Venezuela and could have serious implications on their status in addition to the demented practice of using humans as props for political stunts.

CBS News immigration reporter Camilo Montoya-Galvez notes that, unlike the other cities Republican governors have chosen as destinations for migrants, Martha's Vineyard is not an urban, metropolitan area with a robust social services infrastructure: There are no large refugee or migrant services organizations on the island. There's no Justice Department immigration court where the migrants can attend asylum hearings. There's no ICE field office where migrants can check in. As it hasn't been a top destination for recent arrivals, the flights will also raise questions about whether all the migrants transported there on Wednesday knew where they were going.

[michigancat]

I've seen people use "dehumanizing" and think that's a good way of describing it.

Good word as well but is this what it takes to put this into focus?  This has been happening for a long time and now people are up in arms about it?

What has been happening for a long time? Shipping immigrants for political stunts? Are you wondering why people are upset about the most recent dehumanizing publicity stunt? Like, DeSantis's goal was to get this in the news.

[michigancat]

Also I wonder if Ron would treat Cuban asylum seekers the same way?

[I_have_purplewood]

Ghoulish behavior

https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1570195702558629888

Ghoulish seems like an odd word to use here?  How is it ghoulish?

Probably the wrong word. "Cruel" or "abhorrent" might be better

Yes, better words.  But are they not being treated cruelly at any border town?

They might have been! If you want to argue that we should improve the detention facilities of asylum seekers, I won't stand in your way.

But there are indications that these were asylum seekers from Venezuela and could have serious implications on their status in addition to the demented practice of using humans as props for political stunts.

CBS News immigration reporter Camilo Montoya-Galvez notes that, unlike the other cities Republican governors have chosen as destinations for migrants, Martha's Vineyard is not an urban, metropolitan area with a robust social services infrastructure: There are no large refugee or migrant services organizations on the island. There's no Justice Department immigration court where the migrants can attend asylum hearings. There's no ICE field office where migrants can check in. As it hasn't been a top destination for recent arrivals, the flights will also raise questions about whether all the migrants transported there on Wednesday knew where they were going.

I'm sure they will figure out what they need to not having all of those ROBUST social service outlets, lol.  This can't catch anyone of guard.  Texas has been crying about this months on end while our administration has done little.

And while I'm not a fan of these "stunts", it does appear that it will get the attention that it has needed for some time.  Most on this board has found it easy to turn a blind eye on this travesty until now.

[MakeItRain]

It's fantastic hearing the mayors of sanctuary cities whine about migrants showing up at their doorstep.

The virtue signaling was so much more fulfilling . . . then the actual dealing with, clearly.

I'm sure I'll regret asking this but, who are you talking about here? NYC, DC, and Chicago have taken the migrants and dealt with it. Martha's Vineyard is not a "sanctuary city" but the people still aren't complaining. DeSantis could have easily sent those people to Boston where there are far more resources to take care of them but he knew full well that partisans would excuse this stunt, and sending them to Martha's Vineyard was absolutely a stunt, that cost his taxpayers money.

I shouldn't be surprised that conservatives aren't roundly denouncing sending these migrants to Martha's Vineyard, but here I am. I'm the fool, I guess.

[MakeItRain]

would rather those folks have a path to legal citizenship

Biden just needs to do a standing Executive Order that grants status to anyone involved in these stunts. Basically treat it like a lottery ticket from your pals Abbott and DeSantis.

He does the same thing though, just not as extreme as sending them to an island of 17,000 residents with 8 months of awful weather.