US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)

[scottwildcat]

came for the scottwildcat meltdown, kind of underwhelmed tbh

The entire D is crap and outside of Demps we don't have a goal scoring threat. LD10 is a FP TC.


Sorry I didn't live up to the hype

[3maw]

god i'm going to get so much crap from the belgians at work tomorrow

[sunny_cat]

Didn't see any of the game, didn't even see a lineup. But I will say that Belgium is very very good. They're in the middle of a golden generation.

[AbeFroman]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

[asava]

what was weird about this game: i actually liked eddie johnson at left mid.

what was not weird about this game: the defense was awful. our centerbacks are complete liabilities. two awful decisions that lead to belgium goals, but i do have hope that the more caps they get together the better they will play. really, if we had our first team out there and bradley was playing center mid, another goal probably wouldn't have happened. the game could have easily been 2-1 USA, but it wasn't because of stupid mistakes.


also terrance boyd was horrible.

[sunny_cat]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

[scottwildcat]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

Gonzalez blew dick last night.

[asava]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

Was talking about the Boca, Dolo paradox with a friend of mine. Klinnsman did very similar things at Germany, pushing older players out in favor of youth. I think i'm fine with it if Besler and Gonzo are the answers, but it is pretty obvious that Goodson is nowhere near the level of either veterans. I think it will be painful, but it is a necessary process to develop the youth and the potential they have. Despite things going "sour" with Germany, you can see the effect that Klinnsman had on the squad. They are young, extremely talented, and are playing at a ridiculous level. Part of me still wishes Boca would come back to form and that Klinnsman would give him a chance, because i think he is an obvious top 3 choice for us, but I also understand that it may not be part of the vision Klinnsman wants to develop. He is completely reforming our idea of defense and it's function. It probably is better to start from scratch then deal with teaching an old dog new tricks.

[sunny_cat]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

Gonzalez blew dick last night.

I don't care. You can't honestly think he's not good.

[asava]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

Gonzalez blew dick last night.

He made two major mistakes that resulted in goals, but Goodson didn't offer him any help. He let the runner go free on the bad touch he had, and didn't cover the goal when Howard came off his line. With Gonzalez it is expected that we will have to go through major growing pains, but he still has an enormous amount of potential.

[sunny_cat]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

Was talking about the Boca, Dolo paradox with a friend of mine. Klinnsman did very similar things at Germany, pushing older players out in favor of youth. I think i'm fine with it if Besler and Gonzo are the answers, but it is pretty obvious that Goodson is nowhere near the level of either veterans. I think it will be painful, but it is a necessary process to develop the youth and the potential they have. Despite things going "sour" with Germany, you can see the effect that Klinnsman had on the squad. They are young, extremely talented, and are playing at a ridiculous level. Part of me still wishes Boca would come back to form and that Klinnsman would give him a chance, because i think he is an obvious top 3 choice for us, but I also understand that it may not be part of the vision Klinnsman wants to develop. He is completely reforming our idea of defense and it's function. It probably is better to start from scratch then deal with teaching an old dog new tricks.

Agreed. Although, if he did bring back Bocanegra, I doubt he would be in form to play in the actual World Cup. Only WCQs probably. Right now, it's about building the chemistry.

[sunny_cat]

Besler started against Mexico, 0 goals conceded.

Besler doesn't start against Belgium, 4 goals conceded.

Coincidence? Belgium are pretty good though. World Cup dark horse if they don't eff up qualifying.

Geoff Cameron is no right back. There's really no place for him in the starting 11. Back line should be F. Johnson - Besler - Gonzo - Chandler.

I'm still iffy on the fullbacks what with Fabian Johnson possibly moving up to left mid and Chandler being a rough ridin' bitch that never plays with USMNT. I do know that I do not want Damarcus Beasley as a World Cup option at left back. He was fine against Mexico, but he is NOT a left back at all. He's a fast, left-footed soccer player who is attacking-minded and has sub-par defensive skills.

Gonzo did make stupid mistakes, but he is still getting experience at the international level. I think he should be a starting CB going forward for the coming years. He'll learn and get better. He has the talent and the body. Besler playing along-side him will help bail him out when he fucks up. (He's like the Aurelien Collin of USMNT).

What are your guys' thoughts on Bocanegra and Cherundolo? They both seem to be declining slightly (more Boca than Dolo), but they have so much experience and leadership, something that has been lacking on the backline (other than Beasley, who is not a defender in the first place so it doesn't count)

Gonzalez blew dick last night.

He made two major mistakes that resulted in goals, but Goodson didn't offer him any help. He let the runner go free on the bad touch he had, and didn't cover the goal when Howard came off his line. With Gonzalez it is expected that we will have to go through major growing pains, but he still has an enormous amount of potential.

Yup.

[bonercat]

god i'm going to get so much crap from the belgians at work tomorrow

 

[scottwildcat]

Zusi and Besler in the starting XI for this Centenial Celebration match v Germany. Probably going to get stomped but DC has a pretty decent showing and it will hopefully be another good gauge and get us ready for the qualifiers coming up her quick.

[scottwildcat]

Sexy Jozy volley goal from a Zusi cross and a horrid German own goal has the Yanks up 2-nil

[scottwildcat]

HT 2-0 Yanks. Very pleased you guys.

[scottwildcat]

Nazis pull one back

[j-von]

 

[scottwildcat]

2 goals from Demps. We are up 4-1!!!!

[scottwildcat]

Wow...4-3 now. Meltdown is brewing. Gonzalez asleep on both goals.

[sunny_cat]

Dempsey to Boyd (for not time-wasting at the end): "You're a rough ridin' moron."

4-3 final to usa

[scottwildcat]

@Italy, @Mexico, and Germany at home. 3 friendlies that meant nothing but felt huge, over the last year+

[sunny_cat]

@Italy, @Mexico, and Germany at home. 3 friendlies that meant nothing but felt huge, over the last year+

Winning in Slovenia was pretty big too IMO. (Pretty sure it was our first win in Europe in basically forever)

[scottwildcat]

@Italy, @Mexico, and Germany at home. 3 friendlies that meant nothing but felt huge, over the last year+

Winning in Slovenia was pretty big too IMO. (Pretty sure it was our first win in Europe in basically forever)

yes this too!

[Spaces]

The last time USMNT and the Batcats had the exact same scoreline on the very same day was way back in shut up, stupid stat guy.