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Re: LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #175 on: December 20, 2017, 02:49:04 PM »
Jeesh this is just the best timing to say something so stupid.  Our program is fracked
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Re: LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #176 on: December 20, 2017, 02:51:41 PM »
Jeesh this is just the best timing to say something so stupid.  Our program is fracked

Who would you consider K-State's top candidates? Now and as of a month ago.

Leavitt, Sean, Beilema, Venzy.. Are all still just as available as they were weeks ago.

I'd throw in a guy like Seth LittreLL still being attainable as well.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #177 on: December 20, 2017, 02:52:26 PM »
I say that, as he waited until he got most of the class inked so it wasn't used against him.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #178 on: December 20, 2017, 02:57:06 PM »
i remember having a discussion once about the relative age of our classes and how they trended younger than others. like if someone doesn't turn 18 until late spring their senior year of highschool or maybe even the summer after, it seemed like we were targeting those players. like, we may bump someone up a star if they are young or something and value them more than other schools would. am I crazy or did we discuss that?

I don't remember, but this absolutely sounds like a Bill thing.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #179 on: December 20, 2017, 02:58:16 PM »
imagine being a recruit that just signed and reading that headline

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #180 on: December 20, 2017, 03:00:20 PM »
imagine being a recruit that just signed and reading that headline

If you sign up to play football for a man as old as Bill, knowing he has cancer, you can't be too surprised by that headline.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #181 on: December 20, 2017, 03:32:39 PM »
Guys.



He's 78 years old, of course he has no idea how long he's going to be coaching

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #182 on: December 20, 2017, 03:33:03 PM »
What's the freak out about?

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Re: LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #183 on: December 20, 2017, 03:49:36 PM »
Its not like "I'll sit down and think about it after the season" is any different than any other year in 2.0....

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #184 on: December 20, 2017, 06:19:05 PM »
I don't think any of our recruits are coming here simply to play for Bill.

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Re: LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #185 on: December 20, 2017, 06:43:01 PM »
Not too long ago somebody posted some supposed insidery information about how detached Bill was from recruits and current players. Said he rarely, if ever, interacted with the current players any more. I can't find the post but have thought a lot about it lately. If true, I think it's likely a deliberate move by Bill to ensure there's not a sudden rush out the door when he hangs it up creating an even bigger talent vacuum than necessary. I think this season is it for him and I think he's been intentionally setting the conditions for this move for the past year or two.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #186 on: December 20, 2017, 06:45:58 PM »
irl he's trying to outlast whoever won't hire his son to coach the football team. he'll probably retire mid season to force sean into the job. I'm not saying I'm pro or anti sean. just a fwiw.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #187 on: December 20, 2017, 06:53:31 PM »
i'm close to accepting my L on the topic of snyder and his handling of potential retirement. this isn't good.

https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/943579887390117888

Yet in the same interview he comments about being close to hiring a 10th assistant. Why would he do that if he wasn't coming back?


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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #188 on: December 20, 2017, 07:06:56 PM »
He's close to hiring Sean's 9th assistant.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #189 on: December 20, 2017, 07:11:05 PM »
irl he's trying to outlast whoever won't hire his son to coach the football team. he'll probably retire mid season to force sean into the job. I'm not saying I'm pro or anti sean. just a fwiw.

I say we make him a deal, if he can outlive gene Taylor at KSU we give Sean the job. If he doesn't, he donates his estate to the KSU AD.
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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #190 on: December 20, 2017, 07:15:54 PM »
irl he's trying to outlast whoever won't hire his son to coach the football team. he'll probably retire mid season to force sean into the job. I'm not saying I'm pro or anti sean. just a fwiw.

I say we make him a deal, if he can outlive gene Taylor at KSU we give Sean the job. If he doesn't, he donates his estate to the KSU AD.

Agreed.  It's the only fair way to handle this.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #191 on: December 20, 2017, 07:30:18 PM »
also if he drops below .500 estate stays with ksu and also no sean. I'm not having him win a long live off and us ultimately getting mumped the whole way. there has to be performance guarantees.

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Re: LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #192 on: December 20, 2017, 07:54:20 PM »
Not too long ago somebody posted some supposed insidery information about how detached Bill was from recruits and current players. Said he rarely, if ever, interacted with the current players any more. I can't find the post but have thought a lot about it lately. If true, I think it's likely a deliberate move by Bill to ensure there's not a sudden rush out the door when he hangs it up creating an even bigger talent vacuum than necessary. I think this season is it for him and I think he's been intentionally setting the conditions for this move for the past year or two.

Bruh, he did three in home visits in the last three weeks.

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Re: LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #193 on: December 20, 2017, 09:11:48 PM »
Not too long ago somebody posted some supposed insidery information about how detached Bill was from recruits and current players. Said he rarely, if ever, interacted with the current players any more. I can't find the post but have thought a lot about it lately. If true, I think it's likely a deliberate move by Bill to ensure there's not a sudden rush out the door when he hangs it up creating an even bigger talent vacuum than necessary. I think this season is it for him and I think he's been intentionally setting the conditions for this move for the past year or two.

Bruh, he did three in home visits in the last three weeks.
Ok, but that doesn't really invalidate my theory. I don't follow his itinerary so I have no idea who he actually visited but I'm thinking three visits in three weeks prior to the first early signing period is nothing other than window dressing. The KSU recruiting sucks narrative aside, why NOT make a visit to get a kid to sign and then hang it up after they've already signed an LOI? If I'm not mistaken, they have to sit out a year or something if they decommit after signing an LOI.

I think the biggest threat of an exodus is with the players already on the roster hence the lack of interaction. He's conditioning them for when he calls it quits. It'll be no big deal to them because they haven't seen or heard much from the guy in a long time anyway. It also seems to me that most of the pictures, tweets, etc. have featured the commits with the recruiters (Seiler, Coleman, Dickey, even Sean) and less Bill than in years past. Again, I think this is intentional.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #195 on: December 21, 2017, 01:17:27 AM »
:lol:

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Re: LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #196 on: December 21, 2017, 02:37:19 AM »
Not too long ago somebody posted some supposed insidery information about how detached Bill was from recruits and current players. Said he rarely, if ever, interacted with the current players any more. I can't find the post but have thought a lot about it lately. If true, I think it's likely a deliberate move by Bill to ensure there's not a sudden rush out the door when he hangs it up creating an even bigger talent vacuum than necessary. I think this season is it for him and I think he's been intentionally setting the conditions for this move for the past year or two.

Bruh, he did three in home visits in the last three weeks.
Ok, but that doesn't really invalidate my theory. I don't follow his itinerary so I have no idea who he actually visited but I'm thinking three visits in three weeks prior to the first early signing period is nothing other than window dressing. The KSU recruiting sucks narrative aside, why NOT make a visit to get a kid to sign and then hang it up after they've already signed an LOI? If I'm not mistaken, they have to sit out a year or something if they decommit after signing an LOI.

I think the biggest threat of an exodus is with the players already on the roster hence the lack of interaction. He's conditioning them for when he calls it quits. It'll be no big deal to them because they haven't seen or heard much from the guy in a long time anyway. It also seems to me that most of the pictures, tweets, etc. have featured the commits with the recruiters (Seiler, Coleman, Dickey, even Sean) and less Bill than in years past. Again, I think this is intentional.

It seems you have your idea of how things are and that's how it's going to be, no matter what. Him doing the visits do invalidate your opinion that he's less involved because he hasn't done that in years. That's not to say he won't retire but he isn't less involved at least right now. And you are kind of mistaken about the NLOI. The signed players will be immediately eligible if K-State grants them releases, we did for a couple of players in 2005.

As to your point about the recruiting photos, the recruits taking photos with assistants is the norm not only at K-State but at every single school in the nation, at every level of football, including NAIA. Those relationships are formed with the recruiter and the head coach is the closer. Most coaches do more, many more home visits than Bill, but like I said, he actually did them this season. He very well may retire but your indicators are way off.

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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #197 on: December 21, 2017, 06:53:33 AM »
Not too long ago somebody posted some supposed insidery information about how detached Bill was from recruits and current players. Said he rarely, if ever, interacted with the current players any more. I can't find the post but have thought a lot about it lately. If true, I think it's likely a deliberate move by Bill to ensure there's not a sudden rush out the door when he hangs it up creating an even bigger talent vacuum than necessary. I think this season is it for him and I think he's been intentionally setting the conditions for this move for the past year or two.

Bruh, he did three in home visits in the last three weeks.
Being completely serious (and not knowing a lot about high level recruiting), to me 3 seems like a really low number for a P5 coach in the 3 weeks leading up to signing day.
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Re: LHC Bill Snyder saved Kansas State University
« Reply #199 on: December 21, 2017, 07:47:36 AM »
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