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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19700 on: March 26, 2025, 08:33:50 AM »
ruh roh. I'm sure the Regime will just continue to lie and say that this wasn't classified information...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

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As we wrote on Monday, much of the conversation in the “Houthi PC small group” concerned the timing and rationale of attacks on the Houthis, and contained remarks by Trump-administration officials about the alleged shortcomings of America’s European allies. But on the day of the attack—Saturday, March 15—the discussion veered toward the operational.

At 11:44 a.m. eastern time, Hegseth posted in the chat, in all caps, “TEAM UPDATE:”

The text beneath this began, “TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch.” Centcom, or Central Command, is the military’s combatant command for the Middle East. The Hegseth text continues:

“1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)”
“1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)”

Let us pause here for a moment to underscore a point. This Signal message shows that the U.S. secretary of defense texted a group that included a phone number unknown to him—Goldberg’s cellphone—at 11:44 a.m. This was 31 minutes before the first U.S. warplanes launched, and two hours and one minute before the beginning of a period in which a primary target, the Houthi “Target Terrorist,” was expected to be killed by these American aircraft. If this text had been received by someone hostile to American interests—or someone merely indiscreet, and with access to social media—the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what was meant to be a surprise attack on their strongholds. The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic.

The Hegseth text then continued:

“1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)”
“1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets)”
“1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.”
“MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)”
“We are currently clean on OPSEC”—that is, operational security.
“Godspeed to our Warriors.”
Shortly after, Vice President J. D. Vance texted the group, “I will say a prayer for victory.”

At 1:48 p.m., Waltz sent the following text, containing real-time intelligence about conditions at an attack site, apparently in Sanaa: “VP. Building collapsed. Had multiple positive ID. Pete, Kurilla, the IC, amazing job.” Waltz was referring here to Hegseth; General Michael E. Kurilla, the commander of Central Command; and the intelligence community, or IC. The reference to “multiple positive ID” suggests that U.S. intelligence had ascertained the identities of the Houthi target, or targets, using either human or technical assets.

So basically we have super high ranking discussing country bombing in a group chat setting. We also have high ranking gov officials so stupid to do so without knowing who all is even on the electronic group chat. We also have one of the high ranking officials on the group chat that was (maybe) supposed to be there?? actually in Russia at the time. Now, can we also maybe discuss why really high ranking gov officials are using an outside encrypted messaging service to discuss US gov business that can't be FOIAd? I'm sure all of this is just nothing and they are totally to using an outside service to hide anything else.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19701 on: March 26, 2025, 08:34:47 AM »
"nobody texted warplans" - Pete "I promise to quit drinking when I become sec of defense" Hegseth

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19702 on: March 26, 2025, 08:38:38 AM »
"nobody texted warplans" - Pete "I promise to quit drinking when I become sec of defense" Hegseth

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Texting war plans on a platform that a vile Trump Hating Hoaxer Fake News "Journalist" can sneak himself into.
Yesterday, Trump was spinning some bullshit about how Goldberg may have been "sucked into" the thread because Waltz's aide was "on a call with Goldberg" at the time the chat was created.
I'm sure Memaw and Papaw will slurp up this explanation since it paints the administration as a victim of liberal plotting.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1904687253345235414

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19704 on: March 26, 2025, 08:54:48 AM »
Full transcript of the group chat

https://imgur.com/a/breaking-below-is-entire-transcript-of-messages-from-signal-group-chat-just-released-by-jeffrey-goldberg-atlantic-hkD7Cdm

JD "This is all mumped, we shouldn't do this, the president doesn't know what he is doing"
Also JD "I'm willing to keep these thoughts to myself".

I'm not sure the VP knows how texting works.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19705 on: March 26, 2025, 08:59:47 AM »
"nobody texted warplans" - Pete "I promise to quit drinking when I become sec of defense" Hegseth

(am I doing this right dax?)

Texting war plans on a platform that a vile Trump Hating Hoaxer Fake News "Journalist" can sneak himself into.
Yesterday, Trump was spinning some bullshit about how Goldberg may have been "sucked into" the thread because Waltz's aide was "on a call with Goldberg" at the time the chat was created.
I'm sure Memaw and Papaw will slurp up this explanation since it paints the administration as a victim of liberal plotting.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1904687253345235414

Those sneaky J....ournalists
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19706 on: March 26, 2025, 09:06:27 AM »
Ah yes, fake names, not something you should have to check who the receiving end of a (should very clearly be) classified exchange.

Wired money goes through more scrutiny then what they did.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19707 on: March 26, 2025, 09:18:11 AM »
You can see the initials on his fake name were JG right there at the end of the messages. Probably said he's Jeffrey Greenberg to throw them off his scent.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19708 on: March 26, 2025, 09:25:39 AM »
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19709 on: March 26, 2025, 09:27:51 AM »
I think this is all good for Dipshit. The more his ppl eff up bigly, the more they rely on his power for protection. The more they are tied to him, the more control over them he has.

Absolute worst case scenario, Jesse Waters is ready to take over our National Defense as head of the Pentagon. He would quit mid show to do that.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19711 on: March 26, 2025, 09:31:29 AM »
I think this is all good for Dipshit. The more his ppl eff up bigly, the more they rely on his power for protection. The more they are tied to him, the more control over them he has.

Absolute worst case scenario, Jesse Waters is ready to take over our National Defense as head of the Pentagon. He would quit mid show to do that.
Often overlooked part of how they operate. He protects them from the consequences for this and they are obligated to break rules for him down the road.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19712 on: March 26, 2025, 09:47:54 AM »

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19713 on: March 26, 2025, 10:29:12 AM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19714 on: March 26, 2025, 10:36:41 AM »
they are going to double down on this and they are going to get away with it:


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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19715 on: March 26, 2025, 11:12:04 AM »
This is definitely a problem with "both sides" but it's pretty mumped up that we leveled a residential building to kill one guy

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19716 on: March 26, 2025, 11:36:58 AM »
The white house literally confirmed the text string like 2 hrs after the Atlantic published, and before Pete demanded it to be fake news.  Building distrust of govt is pretty crucial for them.  This just helps.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19717 on: March 26, 2025, 11:43:31 AM »
The white house literally confirmed the text string like 2 hrs after the Atlantic published, and before Pete demanded it to be fake news.  Building distrust of govt is pretty crucial for them.  This just helps.

Cannot trust the government > do something to instill distrust > do not trust the government
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19718 on: March 26, 2025, 12:12:25 PM »

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19719 on: March 26, 2025, 12:17:10 PM »
The “war plans” talking point is fantastic.


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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19720 on: March 26, 2025, 12:18:31 PM »
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1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts — also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.”
“I will say a prayer for victory,” Vice President JD Vance said in the chat. Two people reacted with prayer emojis

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19721 on: March 26, 2025, 12:24:35 PM »
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1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts — also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.”
“I will say a prayer for victory,” Vice President JD Vance said in the chat. Two people reacted with prayer emojis

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That is the best part.

Giving out the timeline as if anyone who had that wouldn't be able to take whatever precautions.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19722 on: March 26, 2025, 12:46:12 PM »
Pete is posting through it...

https://x.com/PeteHegseth/status/1904918673250468002

Pete is being pretty tough on himself here. 

Side note: Pete should buy a set that looks just like Fox and Friends and he should conduct all biz from there.  Probably the best frame for messaging and signaling he could do.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19723 on: March 26, 2025, 01:57:56 PM »
A few holes popping up in the "The Hoaxing Goldberg was 'sucked into' the war-plans-but-not-really-war-plans chat" explanation:

https://x.com/Shayan86/status/1904946934504206612

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #19724 on: March 26, 2025, 02:35:03 PM »
Like, is anyone going to talk about them using a "disappearing" messaging app in the first place? Can you imagine if this happened last year? Meemaw would be exploding from the constant Fox barrage.